Topic: Watchmen (Read 12215 times)

Cartilage Head · « **on:** 06 Jul 2006, 12:21 »

A fantastic graphic novel by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons. I read it rather recently and thought very highly of it.

Also,another attempt at a move based on the novel is currently in the works.

Thoughts?

Garcin · « **Reply #1 on:** 06 Jul 2006, 12:48 »

But who watches the Watchmen?

. . .

Aside from Hey_There_Fatty I mean.

Ozymandias · « **Reply #2 on:** 07 Jul 2006, 14:39 »

I liked the idea of a Watchmen movie when Terry Gilliam was attached.

I liked the idea what Darren Aronofsky and Jude Law were attached.

I don't like the idea of the Dawn of the Dead guy attached. ****ing Hollywood.

Kaktion · « **Reply #3 on:** 07 Jul 2006, 17:10 »

The graphic novel was a great read, kept me wanting more, and it had Rorschach. Rorschach is awesome on so many levels. Since I can't segue worth crap, I'm just going to chime in about the movie and say: didn't it fall through? Did it get the green-light again?

Cartilage Head · « **Reply #4 on:** 07 Jul 2006, 19:36 »

It was recently renewed again..this time by Warner Bros.

Ravenbomb · « **Reply #5 on:** 14 Jul 2006, 22:07 »

I got this for my birthday today, and the first chapter is upside down. Is that deliberate or just a printing error. If it's a printing error, is it one of those "could be worth money" printing errors or just an annoying printing error?

Cartilage Head · « **Reply #6 on:** 15 Jul 2006, 00:08 »

Yes,it is a printing error.

moley · « **Reply #7 on:** 15 Jul 2006, 06:51 »

The Watchman ?

redbeardjim · « **Reply #8 on:** 16 Jul 2006, 15:52 »

Quote from: Kaktion

Rorschach is awesome on so many levels.

"None of you understand. I'm not trapped in here with you. You're trapped in here with me."

Johnny C · « **Reply #9 on:** 16 Jul 2006, 16:11 »

Quote from: Ozymandias

I liked the idea of a Watchmen movie when Terry Gilliam was attached.

But the script was written by the voice of Solid Snake!

Alchemist · « **Reply #10 on:** 16 Jul 2006, 17:23 »

Quote from: Johnny C

Quote from: Ozymandias
I liked the idea of a Watchmen movie when Terry Gilliam was attached.

But the script was written by the voice of Solid Snake!

<geek>

David Hayter.

</geek>

Jyan · « **Reply #11 on:** 16 Jul 2006, 23:29 »

Love the gn, doubt it's quality as a movie however. It's just one of those things that should stay in its current form.

Cartilage Head · « **Reply #12 on:** 17 Jul 2006, 02:59 »

The first page.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #13 on:** 17 Jul 2006, 07:30 »

The awesome thing about Rorschach is he is basically the antithesis of V.

Also, his psychiatric interrogation, where he turns his happy, optimistic psychiatrist into a paranoid, suicidally depressed wreck in about four sessions, is sheer brilliance.

Garcin · « **Reply #14 on:** 17 Jul 2006, 07:44 »

***POSSIBLE SPOILERS***

The sequence where he finds the remains of the little girl and then exacts revenge on the killer is incredible. At first I hated the ending because I felt that it was a total cop-out. Then when I started to reflect on it (particularly on the theme of Dr. Manhattan as an uncaring and distant God, and the fact that that type of ending was unprecedented in my experience, I grew to like it.

If Watchmen ever gets out of development hell, it's going to suck. No studio executive has the gets to have the Comic shoot a pregnant Vietnamese woman after getting stabbed in the face, then show the attempted rape of Miss Jupiter, then kill half of Manhattan and let the bad guy (?) go free. Impossible. They are going to bowdlerdize the fuck out of it.

MyBDLrules · « **Reply #15 on:** 17 Jul 2006, 16:35 »

its suprising how more cooperative people are when it comkes to making a movie from a highly acclaimed novel like Watchmen. I just read it and it was alot to absorb but it definetly shows a very solid perspective of what could happen if superheroes were runing around. Makes you think. If its properly done in production with director, script, and casting then they could have quite the hit

onewheelwizzard · « **Reply #16 on:** 24 Jul 2006, 15:42 »

I suspect that Alan Moore might end up spinning around uncontrollably before he even dies. If he were dead right now he'd be turning in his grave so fast there'd be a tornado forming over it. V For Vendetta was bad enough.

Garcin · « **Reply #17 on:** 24 Jul 2006, 16:35 »

When the author of the original graphic novel demands that his name not be associated after it's been cinematized/Wachowskized on a huge budget, it's definitely not a good sign. And League of Extraordinary Gentlemen . . . well little need be said about that. I haven't seen or read From Hell and friends/reviewers have generally been split on the movie 50/50, so maybe this was the exception.

Alright, I poked around (ie. checked on IMDB) and the movie is confirmed pre-production with Zack Snyder attached. He directed the Dawn of the Dead remake which was generally well-reviewed -- although I haven't seen it yet. Anyone seen this? I'm upgrading the situation from "Gonna suck goat balls" to "Cautiously optimistic".

KharBevNor · « **Reply #18 on:** 24 Jul 2006, 16:42 »

V For Vendetta was a good film, and included many of Moores best scenes. The reason Moore disowned it was because they had updated and softened the political context, which is fair enough, however, it was a clever move by the Wachowskis. They showed how the threat to the future might arise from today rather than from 1982. If they'd only kept V an anarchist, it would have been brilliant.

JLM · « **Reply #19 on:** 24 Jul 2006, 18:08 »

Isn't Alan Moore, like, the Howard Hughes of the comic world? Him saying he wants his name taken off of a project is basically par for the course...I'm fairly certain that even if a word for word copy of one of his scripts was produced for the big screen he'd still disown it.

Ozymandias · « **Reply #20 on:** 26 Jul 2006, 06:07 »

No, he didn't disown From Hell or LXG.

He started after that, when he realized that Hollywood just wants the ideas from his comic books so they can rape the fuck out of them, toss them in a ditch, pee on them, and let them suffer and die.

Alchemist · « **Reply #21 on:** 26 Jul 2006, 07:17 »

Quote from: Ozymandias

No, he didn't disown From Hell or LXG.

He VERY MUCH SHOULD HAVE disowned LXG. From Hell was pretty good, though.

Jedit · « **Reply #22 on:** 02 Oct 2006, 15:34 »

Quote from: Ozymandias on 26 Jul 2006, 06:07

No, he didn't disown From Hell or LXG

He did after the fact. It was LXG that caused him to demand that his name be left off all future adaptations of his work and the monies given to the artist.

rynne · « **Reply #23 on:** 03 Oct 2006, 11:33 »

Quote from: Axolotyl on 17 Jul 2006, 07:44

If Watchmen ever gets out of development hell, it's going to suck. … They are going to bowdlerdize the fuck out of it.

Bingo. No studio with the budget to make it work would release it with the intended, morally-ambiguous ending. Without that ending, there’s no point.

Quote from: onewheelwizzard on 24 Jul 2006, 15:42

V For Vendetta was bad enough.

And that was the best of the adaptations. LoEG sucked ass (Mina’s not a vampire!) and while I enjoyed From Hell, it wasn’t anywhere near as interesting as the comic.

That being said, I think that Tom Strong could be made into a great movie if the right director got hold of it.

*waits patiently for a Lost Girls adaptation. Alice/Wendy/Dorothy threesome: mmm….*

Ragman · « **Reply #24 on:** 04 Oct 2006, 23:33 »

I just can't see the richness of a twelve issue comic being condenced well into something that's only a few hours long. The Watchmen would make a better Televised mini-series, or a series in the vain of Lost. I wouldn't like having to wait a year or two to pick up the story, the Watchmen's great because you're able to read it through and digest it. I think the magic of the story would be lost on a movie.

CamusCanDo · « **Reply #25 on:** 04 Oct 2006, 23:47 »

Apparently the screen play written by David Hayter got the thumbs up from Alan Moore, well as much as a thumbs up as you're gonna get from Alan Moore:

"I shan't be going to see it. My book is a comic book. Not a movie, not a novel. A comic book. It's been made in a certain way, and designed to be read a certain way: in an armchair, nice and cozy next to a fire, with a steaming cup of coffee."

Cartilage Head · « **Reply #26 on:** 06 Oct 2006, 11:41 »

Sounds about right.

Ã¶de · « **Reply #27 on:** 07 Oct 2006, 03:42 »

I've read up to chapter 3 of Watchmen. It kicks ass. It doesn't need to be a film.

Ravenbomb · « **Reply #28 on:** 07 Oct 2006, 22:26 »

for my Scriptwriting for TV and Film class, we're doing up premises, character sketches, and 30 minutes worth of a script for a TV series, mini-series, or film. For my project I'm doing a mini-series of Watchmen

elcapitan · « **Reply #29 on:** 08 Oct 2006, 03:44 »

Damn. Watchmen and The Sandman are the two graphic novels I hold most sacrosanct.

So once Watchmen comes out, how long do you think it'll be before Sandman is announced? Knowing my luck at the moment.

Ozymandias · « **Reply #30 on:** 08 Oct 2006, 13:31 »

Gaiman is more accepting of the movie industry, though, and could probably actually have a hand in making a Sandman movie, so I wouldn't be too worried.

Trollstormur · « **Reply #31 on:** 14 Oct 2006, 00:08 »

I bought a 2nd copy of the watchmen so that I could have sex with it.

it's that good.

Kaktion · « **Reply #32 on:** 15 Oct 2006, 10:21 »

The Watchmen makes me happy in many difference places that books don't normally make me happy. In all seriousnes, it's top-notch writing and I can never get tired of it, no matter how many times I read it. Watchmen wouldn't work well as a movie, I don't think, unless a lot of sub-plots get cut out. Though, as a mini-series, preferably on HBO, it could rock on so many levels if it had the right budget and director.

Ã¶de · « **Reply #33 on:** 15 Oct 2006, 12:49 »

They're not sub-plots though, they're necessary to build on the story and make it more than a one-dimensional super-hero run around shitfest.

Kaktion · « **Reply #34 on:** 15 Oct 2006, 19:05 »

Either way, there's very little chance of transitioning between each character every so often and making it effective it's the movie's only an hour or two hours long. With a mini-series each episode can be an hour or so long and each character gets enough limelight to make it work.

Ã¶de · « **Reply #35 on:** 16 Oct 2006, 00:39 »

They're not making a mini-series. They're making a movie.

Kaktion · « **Reply #36 on:** 16 Oct 2006, 04:58 »

Quote from: öde on 16 Oct 2006, 00:39

They're not making a mini-series. They're making a movie.

*sigh.* Yeah, I know.

Reddkryten · « **Reply #37 on:** 16 Oct 2006, 07:43 »

There was a script for a Sandman film, Roger Avery (Killing Zoe, The Rules Of Attraction) was going to direct, but that fell apart. I heard Gaiman is going to direct a Death: The High Cost Of Living film soon.

I read an interview with Alan Moore. After LXG he vowed that his name would never be on another film. The next day he was called about Constantine, the one film he was interested in and complained that the universe was taunting him. So if Alan Moore's name isn't on the film, it doesn't mean it sucks. Although with Watchmen there is a really high risk of that.

Felix_ · « **Reply #38 on:** 25 Oct 2006, 15:29 »

The single best graphic novel ever created.

Alan Moore is brilliant.

Hell, I even liked what he did with Swamp Thing!

TimA · « **Reply #39 on:** 14 Nov 2006, 19:26 »

I really loved this thing, but I can't imagine it as a novel. One of the things that makes it such genius is the way Moore used the form of the graphic novel to tell his story. The narrative depends on that specific form. Any translation to movie, I think, has to fail.

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