Topic: Anyone here have an opinion on opinions? (Read 17863 times)

CutMan · « **Reply #50 on:** 28 Nov 2006, 12:08 »

Ah, is that what it goes on to say? Then unfortunatley, I
gotta say I don't agree with that.

You can state facts about them, but you can't prove
those facts to be negative things.

What kind of facts would you present that would justify a blanket
statement like "they're shit."?

supersheep · « **Reply #51 on:** 28 Nov 2006, 15:42 »

I quite dislike the word prove - it makes no sense. There is very little that we can know absolutely - apparently we can't even know that we exist (not quite sure how this was shown, but I believe Nietzsche showed it). Admittedly, this is taking skepticism to its extreme, but even things like science... There is a reason why it is called the THEORY of gravitation. What facts we chose to accept or not is generally somewhat subjective.
Also, if we stop arguing about subjective things, we will be robots. Humans are entirely subjective creatures - objectivity does not exist.

TrueNeutral · « **Reply #52 on:** 28 Nov 2006, 15:47 »

Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 28 Nov 2006, 06:54

To people who say they don't want to hear anyone else's opinion on something, I have to ask: what exactly do you talk to people about?? Even taking the Internet on its own, it's hard to go anywhere and get only objectivity.

Meaningful conversation for teh lose.

spinning_Starlet · « **Reply #53 on:** 28 Nov 2006, 17:11 »

i have an opinion.
i do not mind listening to your opinion
i do not want you to force your opinion on me however.

Narr · « **Reply #54 on:** 28 Nov 2006, 18:08 »

My opinion, if I get down to the bare-minimum idea that spawned that opinion, is

BOOBIES.

supersheep · « **Reply #55 on:** 28 Nov 2006, 18:45 »

Best opinion evar.

Misereatur · « **Reply #56 on:** 28 Nov 2006, 20:42 »

I still think your band sucks.

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #57 on:** 28 Nov 2006, 21:39 »

You're mistaken, sir. My band is simply named "Sucks." You can see how there'd be some confusion, I think.

BeoPuppy · « **Reply #58 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 01:52 »

They're crunchy.

CutMan · « **Reply #59 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 04:14 »

Mostly what I'm saying is that opinions are subjective.
If someone else wants to hear them- whether they disagree
or not, and want to discuss them... Good.

What I'm talking about- which upon thinking about it might
not be what this topic was ever supposed to be about, was
trying to force someone to believe that your opinion is right.

Opinions are awesome, sharing them with people
who dont mind hearing them is awesome. Just dont
force them on people.

Ernest · « **Reply #60 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 04:19 »

Quote from: spinning_Starlet on 28 Nov 2006, 17:11

i have an opinion.
i do not mind listening to your opinion
i do not want you to force your opinion on me however.

We can't force our opinions on you because this is the internet.

Gryff · « **Reply #61 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 04:22 »

Cutman, why
do your posts look like
poems?

Also, as for the original topic
of the thread:
WHOOSH!

Johnny C · « **Reply #62 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 05:23 »

First, though, you have to define good music and be able to define it outside of what you like.

Ernest · « **Reply #63 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 06:59 »

Quote from: tommydski on 29 Nov 2006, 04:43

Since this is a music forum, I'm going to try to stab at a point that's just occured to me.
When I started listening to good music, I became a better person. Would it be fair to say that if I believed another could experience similar benefits, my crusade for good music is just?

Substitute "serving Jesus" for "listening to good music" and you'd be a Christian.

IronOxide · « **Reply #64 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 07:04 »

Your crusade for what you call (and i generally agree is) "good music" may not be as much on the basis of the quality of the music as the nature of the music. Coltrane allows for more interpretation than MCR. One can listen to one song by an artist like Coltrane and feel on top of the world, the next day the song can be filled with sorrow. With a manufactured de-pop band like MCR, you know exactly how they want you to feel. With other "better" artists, you are open to interpret emotion.

Let us take as an example the Beatles song "Revolution" (either one aside from #9). Depending on the listener, the song can either be a pessimistic depiction of the ills of society, or a message and appeal for the world to better itself with a general optimism for humanity.

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #65 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 09:39 »

Wouldn't that mean that many of us would be right about everything, and then we'd end up coming into conflict because I don't own any MCR albums and you don't either, but we don't agree on something??

Ernest · « **Reply #66 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 10:46 »

Quote from: tommydski on 29 Nov 2006, 04:43

Since this is a music forum, I'm going to try to stab at a point that's just occured to me.
When I started serving Jesus, I became a better person. Would it be fair to say that if I believed another could experience similar benefits, my crusade for serving Jesus is just?

Johnny C · « **Reply #67 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 11:44 »

I can touch a Bible just about anywhere.

Also, I own no My Chemical Rumpus albums.

Cerulaetas · « **Reply #68 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 13:40 »

Quote from: Johnny C on 29 Nov 2006, 11:44

My Chemical Rumpus.

camelpimp · « **Reply #69 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 19:11 »

I'm pretty much not going to read the rest of these posts in any detail, but I'm totally right. I own no MCR albums.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #70 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 20:28 »

I own no MCR albums either. I did once, but I sold it.

Ernest · « **Reply #71 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 21:36 »

Quote from: tommydski on 29 Nov 2006, 04:43

Since this is a music forum, I'm going to try to stab at a point that's just occured to me.
When I started pretending to be Stalin, I became a better person. Would it be fair to say that if I believed another could experience similar benefits, my pretending to be Stalin is just?

supersheep · « **Reply #72 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 22:28 »

Musical version of the Bible!

BeoPuppy · « **Reply #73 on:** 29 Nov 2006, 22:56 »

... didn't somebody already do this?

True story: Parents of a friend went to the cinema to see Jesus Christ Superstar. Halfway through a woman in front of them exclaimed:'Wait! I read a book about this!'

Ernest · « **Reply #74 on:** 30 Nov 2006, 01:09 »

I'm just having fun, Tommy. Not doing a personal attack or anything.

ScrambledGregs · « **Reply #75 on:** 30 Nov 2006, 02:59 »

Quote from: Johnny C on 29 Nov 2006, 11:44

I can touch a Bible just about anywhere.

That's not important. What's important is where the Bible touches you.

Would you please demonstrate to the court where, precisely, the Bible touched you?? I know it's hard, but...

Ernest · « **Reply #76 on:** 30 Nov 2006, 03:17 »

The Bible touched my heart, mind, and soul. *sob* I'm so humiliated.

camelpimp · « **Reply #77 on:** 30 Nov 2006, 03:44 »

Quote from: ScrambledGregs on 30 Nov 2006, 02:59

Quote from: Johnny C on 29 Nov 2006, 11:44
I can touch a Bible just about anywhere.

That's not important. What's important is where the Bible touches you.

Would you please demonstrate to the court where, precisely, the Bible touched you?? I know it's hard, but...

Oh it is important. That's what the reason for my recent arrest. Fuck, in court they even have you swear upon a Bible! Hello, tempting much? What a world...

Ernest · « **Reply #78 on:** 30 Nov 2006, 06:27 »

"Sir, please demonstrate on this Bible where he touched you."

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Author Topic: Anyone here have an opinion on opinions? (Read 17863 times)

TrueNeutral

spinning_Starlet

Narr

ScrambledGregs

ScrambledGregs

Cerulaetas

camelpimp

ScrambledGregs

camelpimp