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Re: YOU! YOU BETTER NOT BE SOBER
« Reply #750 on: 23 Feb 2008, 23:38 »

why even care what low end whiskey is in your coke...the coke will kill any real flavor won't it? it's not as if it's a dry martini where the gin will really make or break the drink.

False. False as all Hell. If you can't taste the difference between J.D. and Jameson, you're doing it wrong. I don't know how you're doing it wrong, but you're doing it wrong.

i can taste a huge difference between jd and jameson when it's straight/rocks, but when it's mixed with coke, I can't imagine tasting or caring about the difference (the difference that i'm apparently not tasting).

i used to have this roommate who had panic attacks, and to combat them at the apartment, she kept a bottle of jameson  on her bedstand. she was a jameson drinker, and I rocked my glass with my good, old friend the one and only, jonathan daniels.... but yeah, when it's in coke, it tastes the same... or perhaps, i'm at a bar making a fool of myself in front of a girl so i don't take the time to actually taste it.

tonight i'm rocking a surprisingly decent california cab- black currants, cherries, and berries with toasted chocolate under all of it. there's some sam adams spring ales in the fridge in case this can't handle the burrito i found in the back of my fridge.
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Re: YOU! YOU BETTER NOT BE SOBER
« Reply #751 on: 23 Feb 2008, 23:42 »

Who in the fuck is Jonathan Daniels? Is he related to Jack?
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« Reply #752 on: 23 Feb 2008, 23:58 »

Who in the fuck is Jonathan Daniels? Is he related to Jack?

jonathan daniels is what you call jack when you really get to know him well.
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« Reply #753 on: 24 Feb 2008, 00:24 »

tonight i'm rocking a surprisingly decent california cab

What's surprising about it? Some really good wines come out of Cali. I'm embarrased that I can't remember the name of my favorite. It's a gewurztraminer made by an old hippycouple from Mendocino.
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« Reply #754 on: 24 Feb 2008, 00:54 »

tonight i'm rocking a surprisingly decent california cab

What's surprising about it? Some really good wines come out of Cali. I'm embarrased that I can't remember the name of my favorite. It's a gewurztraminer made by an old hippycouple from Mendocino.

it's surprising because rents in california artificially drive up the price of california wine, much like the euro:dollar drives up the price of european wine. also, california makes very new world style wine generally, where the fruit is entirely too present, the alcohol is too high, and the spectrum of flavors veers more towards the singular than i like. on top of that, you have to pay $30+ for something that is impressive even in that style mostly; it's just california doesn't turn out a bunch of well-done, value-based wine.

without the toasty chocolate, this wine would have been entirely pedestrian, california swill, but with it, it is really nice.

time to sleep.

ps. gewurztraminer is such a perfect grape, and i love hippies; you should remember the name of that vineyard, please!
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Re: YOU! YOU BETTER NOT BE SOBER
« Reply #755 on: 24 Feb 2008, 02:41 »

I ate a tomato and I think it would be okay if a tomato had to eat me one day.
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« Reply #756 on: 24 Feb 2008, 07:21 »

Jon, either have a few drinks and chill out or get the fuck out of this thread.
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« Reply #757 on: 24 Feb 2008, 08:08 »

Oh shit. My post. I don't even remember posting. I'm still a bit drunk, and preparing for a massive hangover. Good times!
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« Reply #758 on: 24 Feb 2008, 08:15 »

Jon, either have a few drinks and chill out or get the fuck out of this thread.
Jon is an angry drunk. Color me surprised.

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Re: YOU! YOU BETTER NOT BE SOBER
« Reply #759 on: 24 Feb 2008, 13:36 »

i can taste a huge difference between jd and jameson when it's straight/rocks, but when it's mixed with coke, I can't imagine tasting or caring about the difference

NO.
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« Reply #760 on: 24 Feb 2008, 17:04 »

ps. gewurztraminer is such a perfect grape, and i love hippies; you should remember the name of that vineyard, please!

Based on what I can recall of the wine, I'm pretty sure it was a late-harvest gewurztraminer from 2004 or 2005. Luckily, I sampled it in my wine course at culinary school, and I can find out the name of the wine from my instructor tomorrow.

it's just california doesn't turn out a bunch of well-done, value-based wine.

What about Two Buck Chuck?

In all seriousness though, you are right about most decent wines from Cali being overpriced. As far as the New World style of being too fruit heavy, I enjoy that as long as the winemakers don't add extra sugar on top of it (Franzia, I'm talking to you). YMMV
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Re: YOU! YOU BETTER NOT BE SOBER
« Reply #761 on: 24 Feb 2008, 19:01 »

Guys has anyone in here smoked opium? Is it supposed to smell like springtime and flowery meadows and bunnies?


(I did not hit the opium, just some... other stuff, but it smelled really nice and everyone was talking about what a nice high it was. Too addictive for me, though.)

I've smoked opium on many occasions.  It's supposed to smell that nice for sure.  Also, it's a very mild substance due to the method of administration and I'd be frankly shocked if you actually managed to addict yourself to it.  You'd probably have to smoke the stuff like cigarettes (read: 20-30 times a day) in order to actually addict yourself to it in any serious fashion.  (This is assuming that the opium you're talking about is similar to the stuff I tend to find, which is sticky black stuff that smells excellent, and not some crazy super-opium that is capable of incapacitating a Chinese person at 10 yards.)

It's a bit like how taking OxyContin isn't going to destroy your life if you do it the way the doctors tell you to, but it might if you crush it up and take a whole time-release pill at once.  Heroin and morphine are dangerous because they go directly into your bloodstream through a needle.  Smoking opium is basically rock bottom on the spectrum of risk associated with taking opiates because it's a weaker opiate than any of its derivatives and smoking it is probably the least efficient way of putting it in your brain.

@Chrasstor: Psilocybin is one of my favorite substances but it really needs to be respected and I'd advise against it if you don't have a good reason for taking it.  You really need to have very close friends, a distance from strangers and crowds, and a defined intention coming into the trip that you're willing to stick to, before tripping is a good idea.  The same goes for LSD.  I actually just recently wrote a short set of guidelines to taking psychedelics for the first time, I can post it here if people are actually interested.
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« Reply #762 on: 24 Feb 2008, 20:36 »

Please do so. I've tripped many times on many different things, but there's always the possibility that you've thought of something I haven't for maximizing the pleasant effects and minimizing the not-so-pleasant effects. I'd be interested in reading it either way.
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« Reply #763 on: 24 Feb 2008, 23:21 »

NO.
maybe (probably) i'm just not as good of a reference for high end liquors as you. if i'm mixing liquors and chaser i just don't care. i should probably be enlightened.


ps. gewurztraminer is such a perfect grape, and i love hippies; you should remember the name of that vineyard, please!

Based on what I can recall of the wine, I'm pretty sure it was a late-harvest gewurztraminer from 2004 or 2005. Luckily, I sampled it in my wine course at culinary school, and I can find out the name of the wine from my instructor tomorrow.

it's just california doesn't turn out a bunch of well-done, value-based wine.

What about Two Buck Chuck?

In all seriousness though, you are right about most decent wines from Cali being overpriced. As far as the New World style of being too fruit heavy, I enjoy that as long as the winemakers don't add extra sugar on top of it (Franzia, I'm talking to you). YMMV

the thing that is wonderful/sucks is that when you really know wine, you always think "i like this" and balance it with "darn, i know this sucks." haha/sad, especially when it comes to american cabs.


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Re: YOU! YOU BETTER NOT BE SOBER
« Reply #764 on: 25 Feb 2008, 00:42 »

OK, on request, here is the tl;dr post of the thread (especially considering that this thread is most often read by drunk people) ... I'm copy/pasting this from a message board post in which I responded to the question of how I optimized conditions for psychedelic use.  I think I'm fairly confident that people who decide to take psychedelics would do well to at least read this to get a sense of the concerns that should probably be involved.  It's by no means a complete guide (there are pages and pages worth of stuff that I would say if I wanted to write something I could call "complete"), but it lays out at least the skeleton of an adequately-prepared-for trip (in my opinion, at least ... plenty of people have taken strong stances considerably more liberal or more conservative than mine in terms of the question of what constitutes "adequate preparation.")

I've seen several successful strategies develop for usage of psychedelics that tend to fit the following criteria:

(1) Accessible to people beyond the current psychedelic subculture
(2) Conducive to personal enjoyment
(3) Provides safety net for anyone having an unpleasant experience
(4) Offers a setting ready to respond positively to self-expression

I feel as if, in the context of "recreational" psychedelics usage (which I think is going to be the status quo until there is a lawful and structured system by which they can be explored), these are the four things that really need to be present. An informal, recreational setting that provides each of these four things is probably as close as any average person is going to come right now to an optimal setting (optimal dosage and set are of course personal responsibility).

I was personally introduced to psychedelics in a large group setting ... generally about 20-30 people together with ~30-50% on varying doses of psychedelics (higher ratios are possible as the experience level of the group as a whole increases and/or the size of the group decreases). I've done this quite a few times now and I feel as if it works pretty well given a few guidelines:
1. Stress the ground rules to trippers (fire burns, cars are real, you cannot fly, trust your companions)
2. Do something that's fun in and of itself (my favorite large-group tripping activities are group art projects and a visit to the zoo, partially because they're both good for first-time users)
3. Sober people need to be acutely mindful of trippers (a buddy system has too much going for it to not be used, I'd consider it a requirement).

The large-group scenario is rare, though, at least among people who don't already regularly engage in drug use (and furthermore, mixing people who use lots of drugs with people who don't sometimes leads to false impressions of drug use itself among those less experienced). So it's much more likely that a small-group scenario will be the best fit for a new psychedelic explorer.

Small-group guidelines:
1. HIGH level of trust among all members of the group (essential!)
2. At least one sober and responsible friend who knows they're the go-to person and is OK with that (essential in first-time scenarios!)
3. At least one significantly experienced person present (tripping or not) if possible
4. More than one tripper (so that trippers have someone to relate to within the context of their altered state).
5. Stay away from crowds and strangers.
6. Have what I would call "friendly resources" ... familiar and well-liked music (The Beatles being a great default go-to in my opinion), thought-provoking works of art, film, or music to contemplate, physically comfortable places to hang out in, familiar environments if outdoors, etc. Basically, try to prepare an array of options that can be relied upon to provide enjoyment.

The idea behind these guidelines, in both scenarios, are to provide a safety net while encouraging as wide a variety of opportunities for beneficial experiences as possible. Something as simple as listening to an exceptionally good album or climbing a tree can be a powerfully affecting experience.  Say what you like about the "genuine benefit" of psychedelic experiences, but there's no arguing that if you've already made the decision to take psychedelics, you're best off encouraging opportunities for fascination, enthusiasm, and wonder.

The last first-time scenario is the solo trip, which is really only a good idea in exceptional cases. A solo trip is OK given the following:
1. The solo first-timer can avoid contact with anyone who doesn't already know that they're tripping (and WHY, which is of huge importance in any solo trip in my opinion).
2. The first-timer already is VERY familiar with the surroundings in which they'll trip (perhaps a rural setting they've lived in or extensively explored before)
3. The intention for the trip is VERY well-defined. This is clearly a very personal thing and I can't exactly prescribe guidelines for it.

Basically, there's a spectrum of what characterizes a good opportunity for first-time experience. On one side, freedom and spontaneity is maximized, social interaction is encouraged, and introspective experience is to a certain extent expected (we are talking about psychedelic experience after all) and people are prepared for it, but it not necessarily part of the intention. This is best expressed in the large-group scenario and it's probably best characterized as the extroverted option. On the other side of the spectrum, the experience has a much more strongly defined intention, social interaction is probably kept to a minimum (to reduce distractions), and the introverted aspects of psychedelic experience are stressed. This is obviously best seen in the solo-trip scenario.

Some final overall guidelines that apply more or less universally:
1. Set intention FIRST. Whether it is the intention to join the group and have a good time, and explore what comes, or it's the intention to specifically and deliberately explore oneself or a certain aspect of oneself, the intention needs to be there. Taking psychedelics because of boredom is simply never a good idea.
2. Avoid authority figures in general. This obviously goes beyond just the cops. If you have to go home to your parents when you're done tripping and pretend it didn't happen, DON'T TRIP. Self-reliance is really important.
3. First-timers should never take more than 2-3 grams of mushrooms or 1 hit of acid. Always use less than a "standard dose" the first time, at least insofar as a "standard dose" is what an experienced user of psychedelics would "routinely" use. (I understand that there is really no "routine" to psychedelic usage but I'm sure you get what I'm trying to say.)

Well, if you're interested, there it is.  As I'm sure you've gathered, this is something I think about quite often and take quite seriously.  It would feel weird to hijack the drunk thread and turn it into Serious Discussion About Drugs, although if that's what happens I'll go with the flow.  I'll see how that pans out, maybe a new thread is in the works if people are enthusiastic about discussing this.
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Re: YOU! YOU BETTER NOT BE SOBER
« Reply #765 on: 25 Feb 2008, 01:19 »

That's a good primer. I would add just one item to the solo tripper's guidelines.

4. Make sure a sober friend knows you are tripping and will be available to talk to you/help you if things take a turn.

I've had a two friends call the paramedics on themselves because they thought they were dying from low doses of psilocybin (.5-3.5g). Barring extremely unusual circumstances, doses that low can't kill you, and one of my friends wound up doing time over the incident. Easily avoidable with the right precautions

my favorite large-group tripping activities ... visit to the zoo

That sounds like a lot of fun, if I could get over my general paranoia and total distrust of strangers when tripping. Regardless of how low I dose, I always think that everyeone I meet knows I am tripping, and it freaks me out.
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« Reply #766 on: 25 Feb 2008, 06:14 »

In all seriousness though, you are right about most decent wines from Cali being overpriced.

Go for some Wente. If it sells for 20 Euros in Luxembourg, the overpriced capital of the world, everywhere else (if you can find it) should probably have it around $15, and in my hometown it sells for like $5 to 10.

To be fair, though, the reason it sells for $5 to 10 in my hometown is the fact that, well, the vineyard is in my hometown.

Either way though, that shit is gooooooood.
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« Reply #767 on: 25 Feb 2008, 06:59 »

That's an excellent post, wizard - anyone intending to engage in psychedelic use, make sure to follow it. It's basically been the routine I've followed the few times I have used them (although when six drunk people I barely know arrive at my house five minutes after taking LSD for the first time, it was not EXACTLY so easy to follow them - luckily we decided to retire to another mate's room).

EDIT: Also, it's important to know that you will be gone for a long time - eight to twelve hours for LSD or mushrooms. Try, as much as you can anyways, to accept this and not want it to end - I've gotten into slightly unpleasant states because I was bored of tripping and wanted to go back to normal-land. Nothing crazy, just feeling a bit mopey and crap.
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« Reply #768 on: 25 Feb 2008, 09:31 »

If you're tripping and your sober buddy doesn't know about it, that's a much serious screwup than any of the mistakes I warned against.  That's just plain dumb.  A "sober buddy" is defined as someone who's consciously accompanying a tripper on their journey as a spotter of sorts.  Without that agreement before dosage, you're just giving your friend a nasty surprise when you start talking nonsense about time and space and they're sitting there wondering what the fuck you're on.

The zoo is great because it is hardly ever crowded!  At least, the Philadelphia zoo isn't crowded, usually.  It's also socially acceptable at the zoo to be completely silent the entire time and interact only with animals, which makes it a lot easier (especially if you pay your way in before your drugs start to kick in).

The long duration of psychedelic experiences is definitely worth mentioning.  LSD is 8-12 hours, period, no matter what.  However, there are ways to shorten the duration of a mushroom trip (which is already an hour or two shorter than an LSD trip) ... if you either make tea out of the mushrooms, or crush them to powder and dissolve them in lemon juice before taking them, the trip will come on faster, it will be more intense while it is around (a 2-gram dose of mushrooms will probably feel like a 3-gram dose for the time it's in effect), and you will come down an hour or two early.  It's possible to have a mushroom trip that only lasts 4-5 hours, if you prepare them right.
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« Reply #769 on: 25 Feb 2008, 11:42 »

If you're tripping and your sober buddy doesn't know about it, that's a much serious screwup than any of the mistakes I warned against.  That's just plain dumb.  A "sober buddy" is defined as someone who's consciously accompanying a tripper on their journey as a spotter of sorts.  Without that agreement before dosage, you're just giving your friend a nasty surprise when you start talking nonsense about time and space and they're sitting there wondering what the fuck you're on.

yeah this. it's kinda disrespectful to just start trippin' balls around people who don't even know it's coming. I mean I've done just about every drug under the sun and this would still annoy me (and be kinda irresponsible because a random sober person is a hell of a lot less helpful to the tripper than someone who knows what to expect)

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« Reply #770 on: 25 Feb 2008, 11:54 »

I meant make sure that you have a friend you can get in contact with who knows that you're on hallucinogens and is OK with helping you out if you come to that point, not just randomly showing up all like "OH HAI GAIS, IM ON TEH ACIDZ"
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« Reply #771 on: 25 Feb 2008, 12:07 »

it's proabbly wroth noting that I didn't really hav ethe attention span to read beyond what I quoted from the wizard guy

so if it seemed like I was having a go at you (or anyone) that's not the case I just agree with what he said :-D

you are both right it seems :)

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« Reply #772 on: 25 Feb 2008, 12:14 »

That's not how I interpreted it. I just thought that I had left my point fairly ambiguous.
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« Reply #773 on: 25 Feb 2008, 13:31 »

If I ever decide to try hallucinogens (unlikely, I'm afraid of what might happen while I'm out of it), I will have a paper sign taped to my chest saying "lol, lsd".
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« Reply #774 on: 25 Feb 2008, 13:38 »

yeah the first time I did acid I made post it notes that said 'it's ok you're on drugs' and stuck 'em around the room

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« Reply #775 on: 25 Feb 2008, 14:17 »

LSD isn't a hallucinogen.
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« Reply #776 on: 25 Feb 2008, 14:32 »

Tell that to Dr. Timothy Leary. In related news, it does not surprise me that he was a Berkeley native.

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« Reply #777 on: 25 Feb 2008, 21:49 »

ps. gewurztraminer is such a perfect grape, and i love hippies; you should remember the name of that vineyard, please!

It was Navarro Vineyards late-harvest 2006 Gewurztraminer. It cost $30 in Atlanta, so probably $25 or so outsideof a majorcity.
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« Reply #778 on: 26 Feb 2008, 04:46 »

I completely forgot about this thread last night, but I am super hanging off the world's cheapest cider. I also was introduced by the lead singer of Fandangle to the lead singer of Reel Big Fish. It was surreal.
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« Reply #779 on: 26 Feb 2008, 08:57 »

LSD isn't a hallucinogen.

ceci nest pas une pipe either

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« Reply #780 on: 26 Feb 2008, 22:21 »

Fuck all of you ass-shitters who mix your goddamn drinks. Ain't no finer time to be had than on this here Knob Creekj,
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« Reply #781 on: 26 Feb 2008, 23:38 »

LSD isn't a hallucinogen.

Tell that to Dr Albert Hoffman!
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« Reply #782 on: 27 Feb 2008, 08:33 »

Didn't he die last year or '06 something? I am pretty sure it was right around the time James Brown died.
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« Reply #783 on: 27 Feb 2008, 08:48 »

LSD isn't a hallucinogen.

ceci nest pas une pipe either

And why is that Monsieur Magritte?
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« Reply #784 on: 27 Feb 2008, 12:47 »

Didn't he die last year or '06 something? I am pretty sure it was right around the time James Brown died.

Nope!  He's still alive, and 102 years old to boot.
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« Reply #785 on: 27 Feb 2008, 13:16 »

Yeah, suck it, WORLD, if you invent LSD it'll make you live to be 102 AND THEN SOME, god willing.
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« Reply #786 on: 29 Feb 2008, 22:27 »

la la la la la

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« Reply #787 on: 29 Feb 2008, 23:25 »

Yeah.  I'm a little drunk.  I shouldn't be, but there ya go.
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« Reply #788 on: 01 Mar 2008, 01:52 »

FUCK BUDWEISER.

King of hangovers.

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« Reply #789 on: 01 Mar 2008, 02:07 »

I haven't gotten wedding-drunk in too long. :(
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« Reply #790 on: 01 Mar 2008, 02:55 »

UPDATE: Orange Juice & lifting weights makes the hangover go away.

Wedding-Drunk is fun. Unless you get wedding-drunk on just champagne. Champagne is not a good all-night beverage.
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« Reply #791 on: 01 Mar 2008, 04:41 »

Lies; champagne is great as long as you're not paying!

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« Reply #792 on: 01 Mar 2008, 23:29 »

Champagne is always great until the next morning.  Then you visit ouch town.



Here's a thought; the worst thing about alcoholism?  Having the beer shits every day.
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« Reply #793 on: 02 Mar 2008, 00:00 »

I don't mind that. You get used to it.

And god damnit, happy belated birthday to Albert Hofmann!
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« Reply #794 on: 02 Mar 2008, 00:33 »

I am way too drunk right now.  I am having trouble spelling things, and that is not a good sign.
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« Reply #795 on: 02 Mar 2008, 05:03 »

last night was fantastic - I think I drank enough coffee liqueur to kill a smaller mammal. Admittedly, I am now nursing the Adam of all headaches (to whit: the first horrible headache from which all minor headaches and supplementary twinges were begotten). But it was worth it at the time.

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« Reply #796 on: 02 Mar 2008, 14:50 »

I would like you all to know that I do not ever get hangovers, and that it is a family trait (Scots-Irish, English, and German).

Have a nice day!
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« Reply #797 on: 02 Mar 2008, 14:57 »

Sometimes i get hangovers, other times i do not. I think when i drink wine i get hangovers but i'm not entirely sure about that. If i'm going to be scientific about this i should probably do a couple of experiments.
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« Reply #798 on: 02 Mar 2008, 15:03 »

We should all drink like 5 Irish car bombs and rate our hangovers with a small review article (<300 words) and a 10-point scale, lowest being 1.
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« Reply #799 on: 02 Mar 2008, 18:57 »

@ledhendrix: You might just be having a reaction to something in the wine. I don't remember which chemical causes it, but a portion of the population gets severe headaches after even a sip of red wine.

@KJS: This is an excellent idea. I will participate as soon as I find a pub that doesn't serve half-assed Irish Car Bombs. A 1/2 pint of Guinness does not an Irish Car Bomb make.
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