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Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« on: 05 Jan 2007, 11:51 »

Rowling just released the name of the seventh book in the Harry Potter series.  I'm excited, even if nobody else on here is.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #1 on: 05 Jan 2007, 12:37 »

is this the one where Harry is supposed to die?
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #2 on: 05 Jan 2007, 12:38 »

I was kinda hoping

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Seriously though, totally for it. Closure please!
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #3 on: 05 Jan 2007, 17:57 »

Yay, finally Harry Potter can be put to rest.

Or not. I highly suspect that, following this book, Rowling is not going to open the Harry Potter franchise to other writers to publish non canon material a la the Star Wars or Star Trek universes.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #4 on: 05 Jan 2007, 17:59 »

I bet I could write some wicked cool Potter-verse novels.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #5 on: 05 Jan 2007, 20:51 »

I'm probably still gonna buy it, but that title is just so over-the-top cheesy, written-for-high-school-anime-goth-nerds.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #6 on: 05 Jan 2007, 22:16 »

Yeah, the title kind of caught me off guard, its just not what I was expecting at all. But I am bittersweet about the book to come out. I love the books and I want to read it, I just dont want it all to come to an end, especially if Harry dies. Of course, Harry is going to have to die or else Jo is never going to hear the end of the pleads of "Write what happens afterrwarddsss!" but, I'm still hoping she wont kill him just to save my tears. :)
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #7 on: 05 Jan 2007, 23:36 »

she said she's killing 2 people and one person who everyone thinks should die won't. i'm thinking harry and voldey will die, and wormtail will live. those are my predictions. (i think harry's going to die just because she said the only thing that she'll ever write harry potter related after this is possibly an encyclopedia, which really, i think is a good idea. it'll allow her to explore other things without being stuck with harry potter stuff.) that said, i'm excited. i want to know what happens!
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #8 on: 06 Jan 2007, 07:28 »

"The deathly hallows"? Does that even mean anything??
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #9 on: 06 Jan 2007, 08:52 »

Deathly Hallows can have any number of meanings. Hallows can be relating to hallowed ground or a holy item or some form of saint. Personally I'm betting that the Deathly Hallows is the name of a place that is heavy on the dark magical history. Where Voldemort learned to create the....uhhh....items that were discussed in the Half blood price (I' know what they're called I just did that cos i couldn't be bothered using a spoiler tag) and he would have place one there so Harry will have to go there to destroy it.

Of course, Harry is going to have to die or else Jo is never going to hear the end of the pleads of "Write what happens afterrwarddsss!" but, I'm still hoping she wont kill him just to save my tears. :)

You clearly don't know what happened to Sherlock Homes then, A C Doyal got so sick of writing him he killed him off but there was such a thick stream of fan mail protesting that just to get some peace he came up with some lame excuse to have him survive a fall off a waterfall and kept going with the series. if JK wants some peace then she will have to leave him alive and give him a satisfactory life story summed up in the epilogue chapter.

she said she's killing 2 people and one person who everyone thinks should die won't. i'm thinking harry and voldey will die, and wormtail will live.

Ah no she's never said how many will die, all she said was that while writing the last book she changed from her plans, two characters who would have survived according to the plan were killed and one person was spared. I doubt that it will be any major characters who's fate will have changed more likely some random people like mad eye moody or Crabbe and Goyal.

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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #10 on: 06 Jan 2007, 11:04 »

Are you kidding?  Those books are all about major characters.  I'll bet that Malfoy dies, but Snape survives.  I'll also bet it's going to be ambivalent as to whether Snape is good or evil.  Dumbledore's death at Snape's hands could have been to show us that even Dumbledore has faults (trusting Snape), or it could mean that we don't know everything.  It's never really made clear why Dumbledore trusts Snape, so there's probably some killer reason, and Dumbledore's death was part of some mystic plan.  Hell, Dumbledore might have been a horcrux himself.  I actually don't think Harry is going to die; I think either Ron or Hermione is.  I also don't think the ending is going to be completely satisfying.   
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #11 on: 06 Jan 2007, 12:16 »

I hope it's not Hermione. I like her character, but I bet it's her.

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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #12 on: 06 Jan 2007, 17:53 »

"The deathly hallows"? Does that even mean anything??

It means that Ms. Rowling will be laughing all the way to the bank.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #13 on: 06 Jan 2007, 18:27 »

Guys I'll give you a clue. Snape isn't really evil, and Dumbledore isn't really dead.

I can't think of a book I care less about than this one.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #14 on: 06 Jan 2007, 20:59 »

Right on the Snape part, wrong on the Dumbledore part. Also, to me the Deathly Hollow means Godric's Hollow.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #15 on: 06 Jan 2007, 23:00 »

I predict it was all a dream.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #16 on: 07 Jan 2007, 01:47 »

What an awful way to end a series that would be.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #17 on: 07 Jan 2007, 02:12 »

I never finished Order of the Phoenix............
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #18 on: 07 Jan 2007, 02:17 »

I predict it was all a dream.

Ooh, brought on by all the spiders biting him in the cubbard under the stairs!
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #19 on: 07 Jan 2007, 02:45 »

The kids on Fiction Alley are for the idea that Deathly Hallows means the Final Showdown will occur on Halloween.

Me, I hope Harry dies. It will be a nice change from fluffy endings.
This does not mean I will not cry. I cried throughout the rest of the book when Sirius died, and felt like vomiting when Dumbledore snuffed it.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #20 on: 07 Jan 2007, 04:52 »

Right on the Snape part, wrong on the Dumbledore part.

Yeah, Rowling has repeatedly said that Dumbledore is not Gandolf. He is dead. Dead dead dead dead dead. DEAD. Dee-ed.

Snape, OTOH, is still a good guy, I'm convinced.

I can't wait for this book. It might be the first fantasy series to ever have an ending!
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #21 on: 07 Jan 2007, 12:00 »

I'm not convinced that Snape is a good guy.  Rowling is very good at getting into readers' heads, and I'm sure she's already anticipated the "Snape is actually a good guy" mindset.  I just don't think it's gonna be clear cut about him.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #22 on: 07 Jan 2007, 12:04 »

Everyone dies. THE END.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #23 on: 07 Jan 2007, 12:23 »

I can't wait for this book. It might be the first fantasy series to ever have an ending!

What the hell kind of thing to say is that?
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #24 on: 07 Jan 2007, 16:14 »

The only enjoyment I will get out of this book is watching the drive-by-plot-revelations that happened with the last one....I think I've managed to successfully ween myself off them now
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #25 on: 07 Jan 2007, 17:33 »

Rumour has it that she will kill off Harry and a companion. Why? Because J.K doesn't want to write other little stories about Harry Potter and friends. She has said in the past that she would like the books to end as cleanly as possible and for every one not to kick her arse over how she chooses to end the series.

Yes, I realise that I am maybe a little old for Harry Potter, but I don't care. Its a fun read :D

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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #26 on: 08 Jan 2007, 01:47 »


What the hell kind of thing to say is that?

Name one fantasy series that actually had an ending other than "the author died".

Even LotR doesn't quite fit, because Tolkien was writing a sequel a several other stories before he died.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #27 on: 08 Jan 2007, 01:54 »


What the hell kind of thing to say is that?

Name one fantasy series that actually had an ending other than "the author died".

Even LotR doesn't quite fit, because Tolkien was writing a sequel a several other stories before he died.

The Chronicles of Prydain end, and pretty soundly too.
The Chronicles of Narnia ended.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #28 on: 08 Jan 2007, 03:48 »

The Dark is Rising series.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #29 on: 08 Jan 2007, 06:47 »

Damn. I've actually read Narnia and Prydain and forgot them.

Also, The Dark Tower series.

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It'll still be cool to have an end.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #30 on: 08 Jan 2007, 08:16 »

Narnia ends with The Last Battle. (which i think is my favorite.) if you forgot them, reread them! they're still good!!!

if one of harry's friends dies, i almost hope it's ron. he's my least favorite of the main group. seriously though, if she kills another of my favorite characters, i will be sad. fred, george, and hermione are the only three left i really like.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #31 on: 08 Jan 2007, 09:20 »

McGonagall and Harry will die.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #32 on: 08 Jan 2007, 12:12 »

M. Night twist: They die in each other's arms!!!! Shocking!
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #33 on: 08 Jan 2007, 13:21 »

The kids on Fiction Alley are for the idea that Deathly Hallows means the Final Showdown will occur on Halloween.

Me, I hope Harry dies. It will be a nice change from fluffy endings.
This does not mean I will not cry. I cried throughout the rest of the book when Sirius died, and felt like vomiting when Dumbledore snuffed it.

Then get ready to bawl and laugh hysterically at the same time.

YOU WILL CRY BECAUSE: every last character will die, but whichever ones are your favorites will take a little while of suffering and pained conversations.

YOU WILL LAUGH HYSTERICALLY BECAUSE: Faye and Dora called it a while back.  Everybody will be all army-line style charging at each other, when suddenly, BEAR ATTACK!!!1!
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #34 on: 08 Jan 2007, 19:21 »

Rowling just released the name of the seventh book in the Harry Potter series.  I'm excited, even if nobody else on here is.

I'll buy it too. Harry was my age for a while, until the gaps between the books got longer, and I always liked him. I admit I've enjoyed the books less and less as I've got older, but I want to see how it ends, of course.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #35 on: 08 Jan 2007, 22:13 »

Faye and Dora called it a while back. 

Nobody cares.  Faye's dialogue sucks.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #36 on: 09 Jan 2007, 14:06 »

My various fun endings:

Harry dies saving Draco. Malfoy kills Voldemort.

Voldemort kills Snape, Harry kills Voldemort.

Holmes style: Harry and Voldemort die together. (ex. Harry tackles him off the Reichenbach Falls)

In defeating Voldemort, Harry loses his wizarding powers and memories of such. Goes back to muggle life.

Draco Malfoy dies by saving Harry from a killing shot from his father.

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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #37 on: 09 Jan 2007, 19:47 »

My various fun endings:

Harry dies saving Draco. Malfoy kills Voldemort.

Voldemort kills Snape, Harry kills Voldemort.

Holmes style: Harry and Voldemort die together. (ex. Harry tackles him off the Reichenbach Falls)

In defeating Voldemort, Harry loses his wizarding powers and memories of such. Goes back to muggle life.

Draco Malfoy dies by saving Harry from a killing shot from his father.



I actually think all of those are very likely.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #38 on: 09 Jan 2007, 20:01 »

I could see most of those happening.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #39 on: 10 Jan 2007, 09:54 »

I'm actually unwilling to make any predictions about this book, as my obsessive way with it kind of ruined my reading of HBP. I'm only going to agree with the person who said The Deathly Hallows are Godric's Hallow, and that Dumbledore is truly dead.

Everything that I thought would happen in book 7 happened in book 6, so I've got nothing.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #40 on: 10 Jan 2007, 22:53 »

Faye and Dora called it a while back. 

Nobody cares.  Faye's dialogue sucks.
Nobody cares what you have to say about Faye's dialogue in here. So let's try this fun game called "Not being a dick", huh?

My prediction for the book is that JK Rowling will finally bow to all the shippers and make their most desired pairing come true - Harry and Draco. Everyone knows that boys making with the kisses is the ultimate way to drive up sales.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #41 on: 11 Jan 2007, 04:43 »

Faye and Dora called it a while back. 

Nobody cares.  Faye's dialogue sucks.
Nobody cares what you have to say about Faye's dialogue in here. So let's try this fun game called "Not being a dick", huh?

My prediction for the book is that JK Rowling will finally bow to all the shippers and make their most desired pairing come true - Harry and Draco. Everyone knows that boys making with the kisses is the ultimate way to drive up sales.

I promise I can take criticism and I'm not gonna flip out and be all "U GUISE R FAGS LOL WTF I LEAVE", but how am I being a dick here?

All I did was mention the comic from a while ago, I don't see how that makes me a dick.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #42 on: 11 Jan 2007, 09:38 »

I think Sheep was talking to Flaming Ostrich there, SilentJ.

Also Hoax, it's Godric's Hollow rather than Hallow - still, it does make sense. I think JK has actually confirmed that Harry goes there in this book.


Here is another theory I like:
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In Irish mythology, some ancient magincal people, the original Irish Fairies (the Tuatha de Danaan) brought with them four sacred treasures that were called the Hallows of Ireland

Those things were a sword, a cauldron, a stone and a spear (or Pole). Eventually these symbols became known as the sword, cup, pentacle and wand. The actual names of the four treasures are:

The Pole of Combat
The Sword of Light
The Cauldron of Cure
The Stone of Destiny

Could "deathly hallows" just be another name for Voldemort's Horcruxes, which are the main focal point of this book?
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« Reply #43 on: 11 Jan 2007, 11:53 »

The Cauldron of Cure = Hufflepuff's Cup = cups
The Sword of Light = Gryffindor's Sword = swords
The Stone of Destiny = Slytherin's Locket =pentacles
The Pole of Combat = Ravenclaw's Wand? = wands
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #44 on: 11 Jan 2007, 12:05 »

Is there a set release date?
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« Reply #45 on: 11 Jan 2007, 14:39 »

has anyone gathered that the scar on harry's head is a horcrux cause it seems like the most likly scenario...and explains why he can feel stuff
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #46 on: 11 Jan 2007, 18:05 »

If the scar is a Horcrux, then why did he try to kill Harry? I have lost track of the amount of time that I have spent arguing against that by now...
SilentJ, I was talking to Ostrich, not you. You weren't being a dick at all.

Lunchy, how is it that you have heard of these things and I have not and I live in Ireland? Pshaw. (Also, the Wikipedia article on the Four Treasures is probably better, because it gives the proper names for those things. The Stone of Destiny/Lia Fail isn't particularly impressive, to be honest. It's just a big stone.) That is an interesting theory as to where these things come from, though.
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Re: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
« Reply #47 on: 12 Jan 2007, 04:43 »

SilentJ, I was talking to Ostrich, not you. You weren't being a dick at all.

Hooray :-)

Lunchy: your knowledge of the Irish mythology is awesome.  Good call.

Seems a likeley scenario, at any rate.
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« Reply #48 on: 12 Jan 2007, 09:23 »

All I did was mention the comic from a while ago, I don't see how that makes me a dick.

I didn't call you a dick.  I resented that you said we would laugh hysterically because Faye and Dora called it awhile back.  That's not while I will laugh hysterically.  In fact, I probably won't even laugh hysterically.
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« Reply #49 on: 12 Jan 2007, 09:25 »

Nobody cares what you have to say about Faye's dialogue in here. So let's try this fun game called "Not being a dick", huh?

Nobody cares what you have to say about what I have to say about Faye's dialogue in here.  Do you like Faye's dialogue?
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