Topic: HBO's A Song of Ice and Fire (Read 276830 times)

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #250 on:** 21 May 2012, 20:06 »

Wait, what?? I haven't been watching much this season. Jeyne's no longer in the picture?? Why? Related to my previous spoilerific post, they better not be trying to get out of that event somehow. Rob's marriage to Jeyne is pretty essential in that regard. They couldn't possibly change things that much, right?

And again, haven't been watching, but the chain came along in the book pretty early on. But I guess all it takes in the show is one scene of Tyrion going to the blacksmiths and saying mysteriously "build me a chain" and the camera panning in on his knowing face while the music swells kinda ominously and then a new scene begins and the audience is all "huh?" until the battle and then they're all like "Oooh."

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #251 on:** 22 May 2012, 06:45 »

They've made some wierdass deviations in the plot for thsi new season so far. There's a list I could make, many changes I'd argue as detrimental to the series (but still a few that I thought added pretty well to the TV adaptation).

But lazy

blanktom · « **Reply #252 on:** 22 May 2012, 16:01 »

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No crannogmen either.

Yeah! Where the fuck are Meera and Jojen? I love those little fuckers.

verdyyy3 · « **Reply #253 on:** 22 May 2012, 19:20 »

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No crannogmen either.

Yeah! Where the fuck are Meera and Jojen? I love those little fuckers.

My thoughts exactly.

blanktom · « **Reply #254 on:** 28 May 2012, 04:05 »

Looks like I am the first one to watch Blackwater. There are bits missing from the battle, but the general idea is there. My heart was racing in the moments leading up to it, and I have never seen such a gritty depiction of medieval warfare. There's no heroic action shots, there's no bravery. There are just men trying very hard not to get killed, and they don't skimp on the gore when they do. Slightly gutwrenching!

Edit because Holy Shit I will never get tired of saying how fucking awesome Tyrion is.

schimmy · « **Reply #255 on:** 30 May 2012, 02:29 »

It was a pretty good episode! It irked me a little bit that despite the fact that they devoted a whole episode to the siege, they still missed out a fair amount of stuff, but I suppose short of making the episode twice as long, and a hell of a lot more expensive, there's not really much they could have done to avoid that.

There shouldn't be too much spoilering going on after this, but for those who haven't read the books, and really don't want to know at all what's coming up, I suggest not reading them.

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Jimor · « **Reply #256 on:** 16 Apr 2013, 18:28 »

Probably time to bring this to the top of the pile again, considering that we're 3 episodes into the new season.

Forget this Game of Thrones nonsense, the Game of Chairs scene said so much without a single word of dialogue!

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #257 on:** 17 Apr 2013, 20:33 »

Tangentially, I don't remember Brienne kicking Jaime's ass that hard in the books.

blanktom · « **Reply #258 on:** 18 Apr 2013, 03:30 »

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Tangentially, I don't remember Brienne kicking Jaime's ass that hard in the books.

I'm pretty sure she did, but the whole thing went on for longer so it certainly took her a lot longer to get the better of him, and it was all based on her wearing him out than superior ability.

Over in Essos, I am both dissapointed but understanding of Barristan Selmy's insta-reveal. It's harder in a TV show to make him totally unregnisable for a decent run of episodes, but if they could have pulled it off it would have certainly created 'mo drama. And where is Strong Belwas? Probably not a necessary character, but a fun one, and gods know they could use something to lighten the mood over there.

How do we all feel about the casting for the new characters? I feel like they've done an amazing job. I love the Reeds, I love Thoros Of Myr, and although we haven't seen a lot of him, I quite like McKenzie Crook as Orell. I have a feeling, as he's a fairly well known actor in Britain, they might give him a bit more than they do in the books, but that's fine with me because he looks like he'll do an interesting job with him.

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #259 on:** 19 Apr 2013, 05:55 »

Lack of Strong Belwas pisses me off because he was basically the counterpart to Barristan Selmy and he plays a huge vital role later in the series.

It's like how they fucking killed off

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just because. How are they going to give Arya her crowning moment of badass later on in the series?

I love Selmy's entry though. Totally pulled some Obi-Wan Kenobi on that warlock shit.

blanktom · « **Reply #260 on:** 22 Apr 2013, 15:48 »

OH MAN OH MAN OH MAN.

I knew it was coming but the final scene with Danaerys was SO FUCKING BADASS.

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #261 on:** 23 Apr 2013, 07:11 »

I loved it too. Probably the only episode I really enjoyed seeing her in since, well, the end of season 1.

Shame it's all downhill from there.

Parkour Lewis · « **Reply #262 on:** 16 May 2013, 19:18 »

I didn't really want to watch this show because I'm generally not into the whole erg and arg medieval swords and pantaloons thing, but it's gotten so much attention I had to binge it a few weeks back to see what all the hubub is about.

Tyrion is a pimp. I love this freakin' show. Addicted now.

blanktom · « **Reply #263 on:** 23 May 2013, 08:09 »

The show is just getting bigger and bigger every season. Basically every time a new season is close, the hype is huge and more and more people think 'Ooh I better catch up' and the ratings get bigger.

Also those who have read the books must be pretty excited for the next episode...

J · « **Reply #264 on:** 23 May 2013, 09:07 »

god. damn.

oh how i hate that inbred little shit. i hate him ever so much. so very very much. every time he's on screen now i just want someone to stab him in his blonde little inbred face.

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaate

Torlek · « **Reply #265 on:** 24 May 2013, 00:19 »

It's a good thing Jack Gleeson intends to give up acting and focus on school once he's finished as Joffrery because he would NEVER be able to distance himself from that kind of role. I've honestly wondered if he gets extra security after some episodes to prevent random fans from finding him and slapping him.

J · « **Reply #266 on:** 24 May 2013, 09:52 »

i can certainly respect a decision like that, but the kid's an amazing actor & it'd be a shame if we never got to see him in anything else.

J · « **Reply #267 on:** 24 May 2013, 09:57 »

Torlek · « **Reply #268 on:** 02 Jun 2013, 19:46 »

RE: Tonight's episode...

Oh poor people that haven't read the books; WHERE ARE THE SEVEN NOW?

blanktom · « **Reply #269 on:** 03 Jun 2013, 02:54 »

Just finished watching it...I feel sick.

The worst thing is

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ChaoSera · « **Reply #270 on:** 03 Jun 2013, 04:19 »

Out of curiosity, at what point in the story are they now?
I only read the books and don't follow the show.

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TheEvilDog · « **Reply #271 on:** 03 Jun 2013, 08:31 »

I don't even watch Game of Thrones, but bloody hell, there is a meltdown happening on Tumblr.

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I'm feeling a sort of delightful glee at watching people's reactions.

Parkour Lewis · « **Reply #272 on:** 03 Jun 2013, 10:51 »

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Out of curiosity, at what point in the story are they now?
I only read the books and don't follow the show.

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Was it the Red Wedding?

I've never read the books, but

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Pilchard123 · « **Reply #273 on:** 03 Jun 2013, 14:06 »

He has two nutsacks?

Parkour Lewis · « **Reply #274 on:** 03 Jun 2013, 15:47 »

I wasn't exactly thinking clearly in my verbiosity at that particular moment.

ackblom12 · « **Reply #275 on:** 04 Jun 2013, 00:30 »

I just marathoned Season 3 tonight. Watching that last scene was a lot more brutal than reading it. oof.

ChaoSera · « **Reply #276 on:** 04 Jun 2013, 02:29 »

Haha, I was looking forward to when the show reaches that point. I think I'll watch that episode later today, just to see it played out. I remember when reading it I was constantly thinking something along the lines of 'Holy Shit, this can't seriously be happening'. Martin can be a huge dick to his characters but it plays oh-so-well into the story.

On a somewhat related note: GOD DAMNIT I WANT THE SIXTH BOOK BUT IT'S STILL GONNA BE SO LONG UNTIL IT'LL BE RELEASED!

sixleaf · « **Reply #277 on:** 04 Jun 2013, 17:21 »

I was really looking forward to this point in the show, but all the actors did such a damn good job of making me get all emotional about it anyway, particularly before it happened. When I was reading the books, I took all the good things that were happening in stride, but watching the show, I knew what was going to happen, and that made the anticipation worse.

Still, it was kind of great to watch and I loved all the non-readers' reactions.

Also, this: https://twitter.com/maggiekb1/status/341556427606863873

ackblom12 · « **Reply #278 on:** 04 Jun 2013, 17:24 »

See, I don't consider Martin to be a dick to his characters. I think that one of the biggest strengths in the series is how well it points out the problems with Plot Immunity. No one who dies in the series dies without reason. It's almost always the most logical end to the choices they've made and the events surrounding them. This is especially obvious when you compare it to 99% of the rest of fiction. Characters constantly survive in stories they have no business surviving in.

ChaoSera · « **Reply #279 on:** 05 Jun 2013, 03:06 »

When I said being a dick to his characters, I didn't mean that them dying doesn't make sense. On the contrary, I love how - unlike the other 99% of fiction you mentioned - nobody in this series is protected from dying. It makes it way more realistic in is part of the reason why the books are among my favorite books ever.

WARNING: This spoiler contains Information not yet depicted in the TV show. Do not read if you haven't read the books or don't mind being spoilered.

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Jimor · « **Reply #280 on:** 05 Jun 2013, 07:33 »

The best thing ever: https://vine.co/v/b3XZMHmxzxh

ackblom12 · « **Reply #281 on:** 06 Jun 2013, 13:27 »

This is amazing.

Seriiously, if you aren't caught up, don't click through

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Parkour Lewis · « **Reply #282 on:** 06 Jun 2013, 19:23 »

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This is amazing.

Seriiously, if you aren't caught up, don't click through
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....................YES.

Black Sword · « **Reply #283 on:** 10 Jun 2013, 13:51 »

I want to express my ongoing discontent with the Game of Thrones TV series. I quite grasp that things have to be dumbed down for TV viewers, but the way it’s been dumbed down also makes for an abysmal experience for people in the know. Not only was the finale lackluster, but I feel very resentful of the extreme screwing over two of my favorite characters have suffered at the hands of the producers. TV Jon the whiny bitch and TV Stannis the whipped bitch have very little in common with their book counterparts apart from their names. As an example, here’s that same scene with Stannis and Davos deciding to go north in the books:

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Do we notice a massive difference between what happened in the books to what was on TV? Stannis acted based on his duty, while TV Stannis is made to look like a puppet on Melisandre’s strings. This is just one of the dozens of ways they shaft so many characters. Also,

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Feh.

Why am I still watching? Lord Tywin and Tyrion, for the most part. The moments of black humor that have me cracking up, like Ramsay Snow and his meal.

satsugaikaze · « **Reply #284 on:** 10 Jun 2013, 19:01 »

The change that gets my goat happened during the first half of Season 2 and it's going to be terribly apparent in the next few episodes of this show. Arya's one of my favourite characters and in the book her

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is such a pivotal moment for her, since it defines her complete loss of innocence and the point of no return, especially after

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. It's also a fucking badass crowning moment of awesome which won't have nearly the same catharsis as it did in the books. It could have been something special.

But no, they just thought they'd kill that dude off in Season 2 for a tiny bit more dramatic impact. So fucking short-sighted, these writers sometimes.

ackblom12 · « **Reply #285 on:** 11 Jun 2013, 01:53 »

Honestly, I think GoT is a pretty good example of a show that I think is doing a better job than it's source material has. It's probably one of the only instances of a book to film adaptation where I could honestly tell someone that if they didn't want to bother with them, the books are unnecessary. So far at least.

Black Sword · « **Reply #286 on:** 13 Jun 2013, 06:42 »

I'm going to have to disagree with you strongly there. The books, by default, are superior material, but the infantilization the producers have indulged in combined with their willful disregard of any number of plot points really shoots them in the foot.

Sort of related, but Jaime Lannister is tapping Kate Upton. Lucky bastard. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2340721/White-hot-Kate-Upton-prances-skimpy-bikini-The-Other-Woman-film-set.html

Edguy · « **Reply #287 on:** 25 Jun 2013, 16:34 »

Just watched the last two episodes. Only read the first book. Let's just say more happened than I was expecting.

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Method of Madness · « **Reply #288 on:** 15 Jan 2014, 20:44 »

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Joffrey gets poisoned by either his own uncle or a member of the small council

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94ssd · « **Reply #289 on:** 03 Feb 2014, 05:21 »

So at the insistence of some friends of mine, I am watching the series. I've currently watched it through Season 2, Episode 5. I feel that it's unfortunate I'm starting so late because many things were spoiled for me.

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As far as things that WEREN'T spoiled for me beforehand...

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ChaoSera · « **Reply #290 on:** 06 Mar 2014, 04:40 »

Well lets get this back up here, shall we?
Season 4 will premiere this evening, if I'm not mistaken. Even though I already know what's going to happen since I read the books, I'm still looking forward to some more GoT. Too bad I don't catch HBO way down here in Germany.

ChaoSera · « **Reply #291 on:** 06 Mar 2014, 04:55 »

Well crap, you're right. I was under the impression it was 06.03. not 06.04. Nevermind everybody, carry on with whatever you were doing.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #292 on:** 06 Mar 2014, 05:12 »

Why to get my hopes up, Chao

ChaoSera · « **Reply #293 on:** 06 Mar 2014, 05:23 »

I'm sorry. If it makes you feel better, I got my own hopes up aswell, until Gareth crushed them.

ChaoSera · « **Reply #294 on:** 06 Mar 2014, 05:48 »

WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO US?

Edguy · « **Reply #295 on:** 06 Mar 2014, 08:05 »

YESSSSS

Method of Madness · « **Reply #296 on:** 10 Mar 2014, 19:11 »

94ssd · « **Reply #297 on:** 10 Mar 2014, 19:15 »

I really want to learn more about the High Valeryian language. How the hell does one word (Valar) translate into "all men must?" Unless -is is a verb conjugation for "everyone," which would be a weird thing for a language to have.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #298 on:** 10 Mar 2014, 19:49 »

I've always assumed a direct translation is simply "all men serve" and "all men die", with the "must" being implied. Or perhaps "valar" simply means "all humans".

94ssd · « **Reply #299 on:** 10 Mar 2014, 20:06 »

An "In Memorium" video for all the characters that died in Seasons 1-3 that was apparently shown before the Game of Thrones panel at Comic Con. (Obviously don't watch if you aren't caught up on the series)

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Quote from: Method of Madness on 10 Mar 2014, 19:49

I've always assumed a direct translation is simply "all men serve" and "all men die", with the "must" being implied. Or perhaps "valar" simply means "all humans".

If "Valar" means "all men" and "-is" is a 'command' conjugation (which exists in some languages) it could translate directly. Or you could be correct that the 'must' is implied. Although that's making the translation sound a lot more pithy than the original

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