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What do you think of Fallout Boy?

I like Fall Out Boy
- 5 (10.9%)
I don't care
- 23 (50%)
You are Emo
- 18 (39.1%)

Total Members Voted: 26

Voting closed: 31 Jan 2007, 20:04


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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #50 on: 26 Jan 2007, 03:39 »

It's not a valid argument. Because 'pop' means 'popular.' 'Post-rock' means after rock, and rock hasn't gone away yet. etc.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #51 on: 26 Jan 2007, 04:14 »

'Post-rock' means after rock, and rock hasn't gone away yet. etc.

Not that I like the term post-rock, but what about post-modern?  I mean, that's generally accepted as a valid term, and it's impossible to be "post-now" if you take the term literally, right?
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #52 on: 26 Jan 2007, 04:44 »

You appear to be arguing with me when I was agreeing with you.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #53 on: 26 Jan 2007, 04:59 »

Not arguing, just wondering, really.

I don't like any labels which are essentially meaningless.  Like "space rock".  Oh rly?  Rock that was discovered in a crashed UFO, style of fing?
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« Reply #54 on: 26 Jan 2007, 05:08 »

Well there's meaningless and then there's meaningnless. In a literal sense, all those labels are bollocks, but they apply to their genres.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #55 on: 26 Jan 2007, 05:15 »

I LIKE ARGUMENT CIRCLES TOO GUYS!

STOP BEING EMO, GUYS!
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #56 on: 26 Jan 2007, 06:03 »

I always considered Hours, and to a lesser extent, Casually Dressed to be moving away from Post-Hardcore, and rather than towards emo, more to be moving towards straighter Rock n Roll, with melodic metal and post-hardcore influences. I expect the new album, particularly the way the members of the band have been talking about it in their Studio Diary, to be a further continuation of this.

Essentially, I consider the way FFAF have been progressing to be a sort of liberation from genre and instead just focusing on good song-craft.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #57 on: 26 Jan 2007, 06:40 »

Everyone knows the only things that ever happen on forums are argument circles and circle jerks.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #58 on: 26 Jan 2007, 07:06 »

I notice the poll doesn't have an option for not liking Fall Out Boy. What kind of crazy democracy are you running here?!
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #59 on: 26 Jan 2007, 07:28 »

Zerodrone, you forgot memes!  Memes are important too.  Oh, and the undergroup PM porn circle.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #60 on: 26 Jan 2007, 07:42 »

I don't think they're THAT emo, i mean the HAT...HAT!
They aren't Emo at all.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #61 on: 26 Jan 2007, 09:09 »

i'm confused, is that sarcasm?
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #62 on: 26 Jan 2007, 09:22 »

No. They are most certainly not emo in the slightest.

www.quiki.net/emo
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but the music sucks because the keyboards don't have the cold/mechanical sound they had but a wannabe techno sound that it's pathetic for Rammstein standars.

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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #63 on: 26 Jan 2007, 09:28 »

Kai when did you get that many posts?

And they totally are emo.

They're emo, and they play shitty, mindless pop crap. Let me say that again for those in the crowd who are hard of hearing.
SHITTY
MINDLESS
POP CRAP

They capitalize on the desire to appear different while completely undercutting any kind of substance that could still exist in the dying american counter culture.
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« Reply #64 on: 26 Jan 2007, 09:32 »


And they totally are emo.

They're emo, and they play shitty, mindless pop crap. Let me say that again for those in the crowd who are hard of hearing.

Could you please elaborate on how they are Emotive Hardcore?
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #65 on: 26 Jan 2007, 09:41 »

Dude you missed the point.

The point is that we should not be talking about this band anymore. The point is you don't need to quote the posts directly above you. The point is that as much as I know this is hard to believe, the definitions of words do change and emo today is different from when your world stopped turning in the late 80's early 90's as much as that might be hard for you to believe, you might just have to deal with it

But mostly we aren't talking about this band anymore.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #66 on: 26 Jan 2007, 09:43 »

Could you please elaborate on how they are Emotive Hardcore?

Oh boy, here we go.

I'm staying the fuck out of this one.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #67 on: 26 Jan 2007, 09:45 »

Fall Out boy are hardcore because they live hardcore. They breath hardcore.

as for emotive, when they wrote their own band name on the margins of their high school english essay they drew little sad faces in the O's.
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but the music sucks because the keyboards don't have the cold/mechanical sound they had but a wannabe techno sound that it's pathetic for Rammstein standars.

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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #68 on: 26 Jan 2007, 09:47 »

There are still bands that play with Emotive Hardcore roots in their sound.

But, if I were to believe you, has the sound of rock changed? Metal?

Most bands labeled "Emo" today aren't even close in sound. MTV and Fuse started this whole "Thursday is a great Emo band" thing, and it spread like wildfire. Bands today with the label can be classified by other genres, and ones they fit into better.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #69 on: 26 Jan 2007, 09:53 »

But, if I were to believe you, has the sound of rock changed? Metal?

Um.  Yes?  Metal went from meaning "Blue Cheer and Black Sabbath" to meaning "Iron Maiden" to now meaning stuff like Mastodon.

Fuck, I said I was staying out of this.

Anyway, you may not want to begin your posting history on this forum by snobbishly bringing up a stupid argument we have all heard about NINE BILLION TIMES BEFORE.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #70 on: 26 Jan 2007, 09:55 »

I'd be interested, but we aren't talking about his band anymore. If you want to start a thread and talk about emo vs "emo" vs mallcore, whatever, go for it. But we are not talking about this band anymore. We are better than a two page thread about Fall Out Boy.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #71 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:13 »

So how about them sports teams

they are pretty awesome, right guys?

I especially like all of them

because none of the teams have Fall Out Boy in them
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but the music sucks because the keyboards don't have the cold/mechanical sound they had but a wannabe techno sound that it's pathetic for Rammstein standars.

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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #72 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:15 »

We can start declaring when we're done talking about bands?

Good. I'm done talking about Coil. We're done talking about Coil. I know they're great and all, but everything to write about them here has already been written! Same with Sufjan Stevens. And TV On The Radio. And Joanna Newsom. And every band from the seventies, eighties and early nineties because what's the point in talking about things that don't exist anymore? And really, every band that is mentioned in the 2007 albums thread we're just going to talk about over and over even if they release shitty albums so we should just quit while we're ahead.

While we're at it, this whole music forum's probably just a collection of thoughts that could be written elsewhere. Why bother having it at all, I say.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #73 on: 26 Jan 2007, 17:53 »

I was going to talk about how Devin Townsend looks like those Trolls from the movie "Willow," but all I could find were pictures of Devin and not much of the trolls.  Thus, my topic was dashed against the rocks of non-existence.

Unless, you know, anyone wants to talk about how Devin Townsend is the coolest looking mo-fo out there, in a totally troll-like way.  ;)
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« Reply #74 on: 26 Jan 2007, 06:44 »

In an attempt to end arguing...

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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #75 on: 26 Jan 2007, 06:54 »

Hey, Sadistic_Ninja!
Pick up some of these albums, maybe!

Jawbreaker- 24 Hour Revenge Therapy
Screeching Weasel- My Brain Hurts
The Methadones- Not Economically Viable
Hot Water Music- No Division
The Promise Ring- Nothing Feels Good
Discount- Crash Diagnostic
Dillinger Four- "Situationist Comedy"
Latterman- No Matter Where We Go...!
The Weakerthans- Left & Leaving
Ned's Atomic Dustbin- God Fodder

They're all great, I promise!
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #76 on: 26 Jan 2007, 07:47 »

Would it be a good idea to suggest Cursive's The Ugly Organ to him? I ask because that is a good album too.
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« Reply #77 on: 26 Jan 2007, 08:18 »

In an attempt to end arguing...

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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #78 on: 26 Jan 2007, 08:32 »

When I was 12 I was listening to Dire Straits, Violent Femmes, Dead Milkmen, Jane's Addiction and Guns-n-Roses.

But I was also listening to Poison, so yeah.  Cut the guy a break.
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« Reply #79 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:05 »

The kid that started this thread is a decent kid. He's only 12 and I'll bet Fall Out Boy are a damn sight better than what you were listening to at that age.

I dunno man.  Fallout Boy are pretty much the dregs.


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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #80 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:14 »

I can probably think of a dozen bands off the top of my head which are infinitely worse than Fall Out Boy. I'm not naming them because it'd be a dick move.
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Re: Fall Out Boy (Please Don't call me emo, PLEASE?)
« Reply #81 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:24 »

Fall Out Boy make decent pop music. Really there is nothing wrong with them besides being mildly formulaic but if you're willing to forgive that somewhat then they are an okay listen when they enter your ears! They are not the pinnacle of rock but they are pretty decent songwriters!

Agreed. I basically listen to Fallout Boy when I need my pop fix... otherwise, I listen to everyone else. I think I have too broad a taste in music to see a problem with them (or any band for that matter)  :roll:
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« Reply #82 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:25 »

. . .to act like a dick.
I'll bet Fall Out Boy are a damn sight better than what you were listening to at that age.

Alright, I'll give some recommendations.  If he likes Fallout Boy he should try to get into The Thermals.  He also might like Bad Religion, though if I were him I wouldn't touch any mid-nineties BR.  Go for the more recent albums or the old stuff.  He probably would like Sleater-Kinney, too.  And early Propagandhi.  And if he likes that, go for later Propagandhi.  More to come. . .
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« Reply #83 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:33 »

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« Reply #84 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:41 »

Honestly though, what's so bad with them? They're just a band. Simpy because they have a different style than you like doesn't mean they're bad. If they were bad, they wouldn't sell as many records as they do, would they?  :-D
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« Reply #85 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:43 »

Please sir, I implore you not to use the "that's just your opinion" tactic. 
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« Reply #86 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:47 »

Alternatively, and this is just me talking here.

A dude who wants to discuss Fall Out Boy, and is 12 years old, would probably be better served going to a forum that is not a. typically very R rated, and b. about characters who would typically mock Fall Out Boy relentlessly. There is no reason for this thread to be here, and there is honestly not much of a reason for a 12 year old to be here. There are many many places on the internet where one could talk about Fall Out Boy. This does not need to be one of them.

Oh and get those albums that dude reccomended. They have similar sensibilities to the Over Produced under talented drivel you like now, but they accompany those sensibilities with actual musical talent.
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« Reply #87 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:49 »

Thank you.  I was going to make that point, but I have a very short attention span and I forgot to do it.
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« Reply #88 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:50 »

Please sir, I implore you not to use the "that's just your opinion" tactic. 

That's all people have been giving anyways.  :roll:

I'm not going for the "that's just your opinion" tactic (not trying to at least)

I just don't see the big deal in saying that they're bad when they're obviously not. It'd probably be smarter to say "I don't like them" instead of "they're a bad band".  :lol:

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« Reply #89 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:52 »

They are a bad band.  They're a money machine with no interest in the art side of music.  I would be much happier if Fallout Boy and I never crossed paths in our respective lives.
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« Reply #90 on: 26 Jan 2007, 10:54 »

I just don't see the big deal in saying that they're bad when they're obviously not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjectivism
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« Reply #91 on: 26 Jan 2007, 11:13 »

I just don't see the big deal in saying that they're bad when they're obviously not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjectivism


I'll think I'll go back to what Johnny C was saying:

They're not bad, but they're not good. XD They're just a band. They sell records. If they were bad, they wouldn't sell records.

Now, Flaming Ostrich, I agree that they're probably not in it for art, but that doesn't make them a bad band. Hell, that doesn't even make them bad musicians. They're sellable, so people must like them.

*sigh* It's probably not a good idea for me to try and throw myself into a debate about a band I'm not a fan of  :cry: I'll just throw in the towel at this point, before I get in over my head.
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« Reply #92 on: 26 Jan 2007, 11:16 »

If they were bad, they wouldn't sell records.

That, sir, is a lie of epic proportions.
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« Reply #93 on: 26 Jan 2007, 11:20 »

Please sir, I implore you not to use the "that's just your opinion" tactic. 

That's all people have been giving anyways.  :roll:

I'm not going for the "that's just your opinion" tactic (not trying to at least)

I just don't see the big deal in saying that they're bad when they're obviously not. It'd probably be smarter to say "I don't like them" instead of "they're a bad band".  :lol:

and Johnny Katz: 'tis the internet. Don't restrict who goes where unless you created it.

Dude. I don't like them because they are a bad band. And basically, dude, I reserve the right to tell anyone to get off the internet if they are being retarded. Kind of like you are right now.
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« Reply #94 on: 26 Jan 2007, 11:21 »

That, sir, is a lie of epic proportions.

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« Reply #95 on: 26 Jan 2007, 11:26 »

mr-pharisee, did you by any chance do any lurking before you started posting here?
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« Reply #96 on: 26 Jan 2007, 11:35 »

mr-pharisee, did you by any chance do any lurking before you started posting here?

Yep. Clearly not enough.  :roll:
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« Reply #97 on: 26 Jan 2007, 11:48 »

Okay I fucked up and started talking about this band again. Lets go back to what we were talking about.

Which is being done talking about this band.

We are done talking about this band. As a group, I think we can get past this, and never speak of it again.

We are done talking about this band.
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« Reply #98 on: 26 Jan 2007, 11:51 »

What's he done that's so offensive?

Nothing offensive, but he seems to have not been around The Internets very much, seeing as how he is beating the "any band that sells records is good" horse as though it were freshly exhumed.

Yo, Pharisee, check it: No bands are "bad" or "good", they are only "bad" or "good" to you.  Barry Manilow and Kenny G sell a shit ton of records but I reserve the right to think they are utter and complete shit.
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« Reply #99 on: 26 Jan 2007, 13:19 »

What? No. All Kieffer's done is say "THIS BAND SUCKS OMG" which is an argument any kid in sixth grade could come up with and then declared that we're done talking about this band. That's not any way to hold a discussion. In fact it's part of the problem.
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