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« on: 10 Feb 2007, 06:30 »

I'm probably in the wrong kind of forum to ask this, but I'm getting desperate.The state of Christian Music has annoyed me for some time. Basically, the only good band I can think of is Jars of Clay, and they're an anomaly in a genre full of terrible bands. Basically, I wouldn't mind Christian music that's:

Honest, and Raw. (jars of clay being a good example- there's a ton of bands that play very similar stuff and sound terrible, but Jars of Clay get through on passion and heart and stuff.)
A bit more bummed out then most HALLELUJAH kind of stuff (again, Jars of Clay manage this)

personally, I'd love some Christian Post-Rock, Ambient or Drone, just because I think those genres are quite condusive to Christian Lyrics. However, I'll be happy with any good Christian music, and if someone can show me some good Christian metal (which I've yet to find) I will be very happy indeed.

One finally thing: No Sufjan!
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« Reply #1 on: 10 Feb 2007, 06:41 »

How about Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - No More Shall We Part? There is quite a bit about God on that one. Low is mormon and it show sometimes.
As for metal, the only Christian metal band I know that sounds vaguely interesting is Extol. Roots reggae would also be an option.
Generally I don't care enough about an artist's religious and political orientation to find out.
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« Reply #2 on: 10 Feb 2007, 06:47 »

How about Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - No More Shall We Part? There is quite a bit about God on that one. Low is mormon and it show sometimes.
As for metal, the only Christian metal band I know that sounds vaguely interesting is Extol. Roots reggae would also be an option.
Generally I don't care enough about an artist's religious and political orientation to find out.

I don't care too much about religious orientation as to whether or not I'll like something. I'd just love to prove to some of my friends that we Christians can actually write a few good tunes, instead of just banging out terrible flavour of the month tunes.
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« Reply #3 on: 10 Feb 2007, 07:11 »

I would say that non-religious bands are as guilty of that last "crime" as religious bands are. Sixteen Horsepower and Woven Hand are another option if you like the gothic americana sort of thing.
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« Reply #4 on: 10 Feb 2007, 07:56 »

I'm pretty sure mewithoutyou is a Christian band. I know nothing about them, though. That's all i can think of.
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« Reply #5 on: 10 Feb 2007, 08:20 »

Dude, Pedro the Lion!
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« Reply #6 on: 10 Feb 2007, 08:30 »

Think Zao is a chrisitan band, I've only heard one song by them but it wasn't bad at all. Be warned though, apparently they got kicked out of their church because they considered it "DEVILMUSIC!"
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« Reply #7 on: 10 Feb 2007, 08:57 »

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« Reply #8 on: 10 Feb 2007, 09:35 »

Oh man the last time we had this thead I think it turned out to be a disaster.

Anyways, if you don't like Sufjan you probably won't like Danielson, who are like an even more twee version of him. However Danielson are also really good.

Separation Sunday by The Hold Steady is an album which explores the divide between Christian morality and human action, and it does so really well. I read an interview in which Craig Finn said he was Catholic and so all of his music comes from a very Catholic place, which is cool because on Sunday he wrote about his chosen themes with maturity and intelligence.

Oh, and Bob Dylan had a Christian period, if I'm not mistaken.
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« Reply #9 on: 10 Feb 2007, 09:51 »

Most of the the Christian bands I would recommend won't be available on the internet, so if you give me your email I can send you some.

I have Exalt, who are a hip-hop/pop group that also have a couple of heavy tunes on their album, and Bottlerockit/Audiogene who are pop-punk, acoustic balladry and power-pop/rock.

Added to that, you have Bob Dylan's Christian albums, I recommend Slow Train Coming. Nick Cave has a lot of Christian stuff but he's also got a lot of swears in his work. For that kind of thing the best recommendation is probably going to be No More Shall We Part as previously mentioned.

Athlete are Christians, but their music isn't to my knowledge.

OHH. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club's Howl album. I can't believe I forgot this. I cannot recommend this album highly enough. It was my album of the year for 2005. It's rootsy, bluesy, but also has some hard-rockin' tracks like 'Ain't No Easy Way' and some spaced-out epics like 'The Line.' Absolute five-star record.
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« Reply #10 on: 10 Feb 2007, 10:06 »

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« Reply #11 on: 10 Feb 2007, 10:17 »

I also forgot, the New Orleans band MuteMath are Christians, though their lyrics are ambiguously secular. They deal with Christian themes rather than Christianity itself. They dabble in ambience and experimental stuff, though, plus they are phenomenal live performers. Big drum + keytar + Rhodes + gong + weird homemade instrument they nicknamed "Atari" + traditional drums/bass/guitar = TOTALLY AWESOME.
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« Reply #12 on: 10 Feb 2007, 12:45 »

Pedro the Lion

beat me to it. i thought of this the second i read the thread title. actually a suprisingly good band and well worth checking out if you want the christian rock thing.
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« Reply #13 on: 10 Feb 2007, 14:31 »

Thirded on the Low.  Get their Christmas album (it's called Christmas) and thank me later.  Best cover of "Little Drummer Boy" ever.

I don't think Sixteen Horsepower is actually a Christian band, but they do use Christian imagery sometimes.  And they are awesome.

mewithoutYou is indeed a Christian band.  However, they suck so incredibly bad you will be clawing your ears off within minutes.
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« Reply #14 on: 10 Feb 2007, 14:42 »

Black Sabbath.  :angel:
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« Reply #15 on: 10 Feb 2007, 14:48 »

Y'know, Underoath is Christian.
But they suck, so don't get within 20 feet of one of their CDs.
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« Reply #16 on: 10 Feb 2007, 15:26 »

Five Iron Frenzy.  ska=awesome.

Sufjan Stevens is christian music?
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« Reply #17 on: 10 Feb 2007, 18:39 »

Paramaecium

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramaecium

They are the only Christian metal band I know that doesn't suck,

They play Funeral Doom and they actually have a really good sound, their albums  "Exhumed of the Earth" is highly reccomended.
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« Reply #18 on: 10 Feb 2007, 19:55 »

i only own one piece of Christain based music, and its more like christain refrencing than christain-rock

Guadalcanal Diary - Flip-Flop

a 80's rock band, the album contains somewhat christian songs like "Look Up!" and "Ten Laws"


if you happen to be looking for a single song, find "Hymn 49" by Jethro Tull of of the Aqualung album
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« Reply #19 on: 11 Feb 2007, 02:08 »

thank you all!

And to clarity on Sufjan, I don't hate him, I'm just really sick of him and I thought lots of people would recommend him.
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« Reply #20 on: 11 Feb 2007, 02:41 »

Also Trouble! They are a doom metal band from the 80's and they rock. Their new album Simple Mind Condition is due for release later this year.

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I don't think Sixteen Horsepower is actually a Christian band, but they do use Christian imagery sometimes.  And they are awesome.

I meant Christian in the way that Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds is Christian namely through their religious frontmen. But granted my knowledge of them is limited so you may well be right. I just thought that a bandname like Woven Hand is a pretty clear indication.
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« Reply #21 on: 11 Feb 2007, 04:54 »

Believer!!!
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« Reply #22 on: 11 Feb 2007, 08:49 »

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« Reply #23 on: 11 Feb 2007, 08:54 »


Sufjan Stevens is christian music?


We didn't sleep too late.
There was a fire in the yard.
All of the tress were in light.
They had no faces to show.
I saw a sign in the sky:
Seven swans, seven swans, seven swans.
I heard a voice in my mind:
I will try, I will try, I will try.
I will try, I will try, I will try.

We saw the dragon move down.
My father burned into coal.
My mother saw it from far.
She took her purse to the bed.
I saw a sign in the sky:
Seven horns, seven horns, seven horns.
I heard a voice in my mind:
I am Lord, I am Lord, I am Lord.
He said: I am Lord, I am Lord, I am Lord.
He said: I am Lord, I am Lord, I am Lord.

He will take you. If you run,
He will chase you.
He will take you. If you run,
He will chase you
'cause He is the Lord.

'Cause He is the Lord...
Seven swans, seven swans, seven swans,
seven swans, seven swans...

in other words: in many cases, yes he is.
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« Reply #25 on: 11 Feb 2007, 09:04 »

J.S. Bach much?
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« Reply #26 on: 11 Feb 2007, 12:25 »

I meant Christian in the way that Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds is Christian namely through their religious frontmen. But granted my knowledge of them is limited so you may well be right. I just thought that a bandname like Woven Hand is a pretty clear indication.

Cave's Christianity is somewhat dubious though.
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« Reply #27 on: 11 Feb 2007, 12:33 »

I suppose it is a bit ambiguous. Afterall this is the guy who has made both Stagger Lee and God is in the House. He wouldn't be as interesting if he didn't have that ambiguity to his music. Age has softened him somewhat though.
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« Reply #29 on: 11 Feb 2007, 12:39 »

I suppose it is a bit ambiguous. Afterall this is the guy who has made both Stagger Lee and God is in the House. He wouldn't be as interesting if he didn't have that ambiguity to his music. Age has softened him somewhat though.

Quite apart from the opening line of 'Into My Arms' being 'I don't believe in an interventionist God.' I think age may have softened him slightly (although he's all the better for it, three of his last four albums are, in my opinion, among his greatest) but he's returning. Each of his three return albums, post-Boatman's have got heavier.

Have you heard the B-sides and rarities album?
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« Reply #30 on: 11 Feb 2007, 13:05 »

Paavoharju are probably the only contemporary group I can think who haven't been mentioned yet. They're from Finland and they're on Fonal records. On the other hand, tons of fried Christian psych/folk records that came out as obscure private presses are getting re-issued, but mostly as expensive imports intended for the collectors market. A couple names I can think of from that avenue are Virgin Insanity and The Trees Community.
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« Reply #31 on: 11 Feb 2007, 13:57 »

Paavorhaju are great but forget about trying to understand them.
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« Reply #32 on: 11 Feb 2007, 14:06 »

Skillet is a fairly decent christian rock band.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skillet_%28band%29

They span from heavy rock to light (almost ballad-esque).
They aren't exactly full on in your face christian rock though, but you can still see the religious themes in a lot of their songs.

I'd suggest picking up Collide if you like a mix of heavy and lighter stuff. Hey You, I Love Your Soul is probably their most religious without being straight "in your face praise Jesus" music.
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« Reply #33 on: 11 Feb 2007, 14:34 »

Jeff Mangum of Neutral Milk Hotel was rather Christian, wasn't he?
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« Reply #34 on: 11 Feb 2007, 17:02 »

On the dubiousness of Nick Cave's christianity:

Then she drew the curtains down
And said, "When will you ever learn
That what happens there beyond the glass
Is simply none of your concern?
God has given you but one heart
You are not a home for the hearts of your brothers
 
And God does not care for your benevolence
Anymore than he cares for the lack of it in others
Nor does he care for you to sit
At windows in judgement of the world He created
While sorrows pile up around you
Ugly, useless and over-inflated"


From "As I sat sadly by her side".

I'd say that's not exactly the most christian of god-songs.
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« Reply #35 on: 11 Feb 2007, 19:50 »

OK here i go!


metal/hardcore/hardrock bands

Zao
Underoath
Norma Jean
Demon Hunter
The Chariot
Project 86
Showbread
Thousand Foot Krutch


Pop-punk/Emo

MxPx
Run Kid Run
FM Static
Mae
Hawk Nelson
Emery
Relient K


alt. rock?

Starflyer 59


electronica

Joy Electric


acoustic/indie

Pedro the Lion
Sufjan Stevens
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« Reply #36 on: 11 Feb 2007, 20:42 »

Christian mainstream is just as lame and pandering as popular mainstream.

I'm not sure whether you want things of the genre 'Christian rock' or just any music with Christian lyrics.  Roseanne Cash's lyrics are awfully Christian, as are Loretta Lynn's, but obviously neither of them fall into the 'Christian' genre.

There's plenty of good music out there with very Christian lyrics, but not a whole lot of it whose sole founding purpose is to be 'Christian'.


Do the Thermals count as Christian? 

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« Reply #37 on: 11 Feb 2007, 20:50 »

Actually I think they do.
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« Reply #38 on: 11 Feb 2007, 21:33 »

I think a lot of christian lyrics and/or themes have to be looked at in context. It's one thing to say a band is christian because of a few lyrics in a song and it's another thing entirely if a band tries to deliberately push a christian image.

Lacuna Coil is a good example, a lot of people associate them with being christian, based on their image and lyrics I think, but then they have a really popular song called "Heaven is a Lie" which just goes to show how riddiculous it all is...

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« Reply #39 on: 12 Feb 2007, 02:23 »

Nick Cave is not a Christian.  Singing about God occassionally does not make you a Christian.  J. Spaceman, anyone?  Hell, he's toured with a gospel choir and has songs like "Lord Can You Hear Me?" and is still very much not a Christian.
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« Reply #40 on: 12 Feb 2007, 02:46 »

The only explicitly christian band I really listen to a lot is Current 93 (Who Nick Cave once worked with, to weigh into that). They aren't exactly mainstream anything, especially not christianity. It takes a very good band to make me think that a song warning against the dangers of drugs and the occult whilst simultaneously comparing christ to a horse galloping across a plain ('Horsey')  is one of the best songs I've ever heard. It also takes rather strange and cynical views to produce songs like '4 Hypnogogue 4' (God gave Noah a rainbow sign, and then he said..."It's the fire next time!") or 'Happy Birthday Pigface Christus' (which admittedly they now perform as 'Happy Birthday' with some very slight changes in lyrics. It's still quite obviously an apocalyptic vision of Christs birth wrapped up with images of harvests and the holocaust...odd band).

Also, er, guys, JOHNNY CASH?
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« Reply #41 on: 12 Feb 2007, 03:25 »

i actually heard a christian gore grind band once...it was quite disturbing since it still had all the gore lyrics except it was talking about overcoming it to reach enlightenment...can't remember the name although they did have a myspace page somewhere
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« Reply #43 on: 12 Feb 2007, 06:20 »

Stryper.
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« Reply #44 on: 12 Feb 2007, 08:52 »

Nick Cave is not a Christian.  Singing about God occassionally does not make you a Christian.  J. Spaceman, anyone?  Hell, he's toured with a gospel choir and has songs like "Lord Can You Hear Me?" and is still very much not a Christian.


It's regularly stated in interviews, and I think by him, that he is a 'devout Christian.' I'm not sure what the fuck 'devout' means when you're a Christian who writes songs about not believing in God, does smack, drinks, smokes and swears. To be fair the former you could probably do in the right way.
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« Reply #45 on: 12 Feb 2007, 09:13 »

Probably just means he believes in Jesus and does his best to do the whole "love your neighbour" bit that Jesus was always talking about. That's my idea of being a devout Christian but maybe I'm just biased.
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« Reply #46 on: 12 Feb 2007, 09:20 »

There is, in fact, nowhere in the bible where you are instructed not to drink, do smack, smoke or swear (you can't take Gods name in vain, but unless Gods name has been changed to 'motherfucker' I think Nick Caves doing quite well there). Also remember that almost, if not all of Nick Cave's songs are sung in character. A song where someone says they don't believe in God doesn't mean Nick Cave isn't a christian any more than he's a fifteen year old female serial killer in a secure mental hospital. Remember, Nick Caves signature song is 'The Mercy Seat'. 
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« Reply #47 on: 12 Feb 2007, 09:25 »

God gave Noah a rainbow sign, and then he said..."It's the fire next time!

I'm pretty sure that those lyrics are taken from older folk songs, seeing as how in Bruce Springsteen's newest album, which is entirely covers of old folk songs (and is the best things he's done in decades), in one song the line "God gave Noah the rainbow sign, "No more water but fire next time"" is used.
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« Reply #48 on: 12 Feb 2007, 09:30 »

Yeah but when I quote another song in one of my own I tend to damn well mean it.
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Re: ....Christian Music recommendations, anyone??
« Reply #49 on: 12 Feb 2007, 10:02 »

Pop-punk/Emo
MxPx
Run Kid Run
Mae
Emery
Relient K

i find it really hard to believe that those bands are chritian.  MXPX maybe, but i have a really difficult time comprehending Emery as a christian band.  Run Kid Run might have some subtle Christian stuff underneath that i might have missed before, but i really don't think so.  Relient K possibly.  Mae, idk...

Amber Pacific i know is Christian, and Bright Eyes hasn't been mentioned at all yet, and Conor Oberst almost always writes stuff about God.  :\
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