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« on: 19 Mar 2007, 16:36 »

Release date is, as far as I know, April 22nd (Storm Rider said this, and he is probably right). I plan on getting Diamond! Diamonds are shiny. If you are not planning to pick up the new Pokemon, I demand an explanation that does not use the term "suck".
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« Reply #1 on: 19 Mar 2007, 16:51 »

I think I am going to get Diamond as well. It launches on April 22nd for North Americans, but the European date is sometime later in the year.

Since this one is Wi-Fi enabled, we'll be able to battle/trade with each other! Somebody should get Pearl so that they get all the Pokemon us Diamond guys won't.
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« Reply #2 on: 19 Mar 2007, 17:52 »

WiFi is such a natural step for the Pokemon series. I would only be more hyped if the starter Fire Pokemon didn't look so damn ugly. I have been a devout Fire dude since day one, and this latest iteration makes me want to cry.
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« Reply #3 on: 19 Mar 2007, 21:30 »

Fire starters fo lyfe.
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« Reply #4 on: 20 Mar 2007, 12:38 »

I'm totally getting Pearl. It's been a long time since I delved into Pokemon and I'm looking forward to putting way too much fucking thought into team building strategy again.
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« Reply #5 on: 20 Mar 2007, 13:41 »

I got tired of Pokemon years ago for the same reason that I got tired of Magic the Gathering. I understand the appeal, and I loved team/deck building for awhile, but nobody I know gives a damn about either anymore. And I've never been a big fan of monster or card battling games. I'd much rather play something more straightforward like a Final Fantasy, or a complete creative dream like Shadow of the Colossus or Paper Mario.
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« Reply #6 on: 20 Mar 2007, 13:45 »

I will invest in whichever one is still in stock when I go down to Game!

Until then... *breaks out the GB and fires up some Red*
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« Reply #7 on: 20 Mar 2007, 13:59 »

The new Pokemon frustrate me. I will stick with red blue and yellow!
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« Reply #8 on: 20 Mar 2007, 14:14 »

 I agree Lunchy.. if not for all the new Pocketmenz, I would likely still enjoy it.
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« Reply #9 on: 20 Mar 2007, 15:48 »

WiFi is such a natural step for the Pokemon series. I would only be more hyped if the starter Fire Pokemon didn't look so damn ugly. I have been a devout Fire dude since day one, and this latest iteration makes me want to cry.



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« Reply #10 on: 20 Mar 2007, 16:01 »

I really love Gold and Silver. It was better when you could still remember all of them. I tried playing Sapphire or whatever it was last year, but got bored after about 20 or 30 hours of playtime. My Yellow cart on the other hand has about 200 hours on it.
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« Reply #11 on: 20 Mar 2007, 16:04 »

I don't get what's wrong with having more Pokemon. More Pokemon means more diversity means more different styles of play means more strategy. That's all good as far as I'm concerned. I haven't actually owned a Pokemon game since Red, but I played somebody else's copy of Silver a few years later. Still, it's been a long time and I'm looking forward to get into it all over again.
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« Reply #12 on: 20 Mar 2007, 17:11 »

The thing with the new games is, it's not more Pokemon, it's new Pokemon entirely. When I played Sapphire, I saw maybe 5 that weren't new for Ruby/Sapphire. Unless you're really REALLY determined, you're not going to see that many old ones.
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« Reply #13 on: 20 Mar 2007, 20:03 »

Pearl for me, though this is because my friend is getting Diamond.

sadly I do not have the stylus thingy yet, and I hope that EB Games delivers on their promise of getting them or else there will be hell to pay
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« Reply #14 on: 23 Mar 2007, 19:40 »

The games are so addictive.
I do not understand why.
However, I am getting diamond.
Because...I like the idea of a Steel-Dragon legendary.
And...Yeah...stuff.
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« Reply #15 on: 24 Mar 2007, 07:17 »

All I know about these new games is:
It's pokemon on the DS
The pokemon have visible gender differences
Lotta new pokemon

What else has changed? Fill me in!
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« Reply #16 on: 24 Mar 2007, 11:33 »

It has Wi-Fi, support, meaning that you can trade/battle with anyone anywhere provided they give you their friend code. Meaning, I could trade with you despite being on different continents.

It's also not an entirely new set, but I'm not sure if all of the Pokemon from the previous games in the series (meaning 500+) will be in the new games or if they'll just cherry-pick a certain number from Red/Blue, Gold/Silver, etc., and then add the new ones in to that set.

Also, they brought back the time system from Gold/Silver, meaning you'll find different types of Pokemon at different times of day. However, the time of day is also supposed to affect certain moves, meaning certain attacks will be more or less powerful at night, apparently.

That's all I know, except that the graphics are apparently greatly improved over the GBA games. Since I haven't played Pokemon since the Game Boy Color days, I'm sure it will look great from my perspective.
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« Reply #17 on: 25 Mar 2007, 14:44 »

What will the DS functionality be?
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« Reply #18 on: 25 Mar 2007, 16:36 »

In terms of what each screen will be doing? I'm honestly not sure.
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« Reply #19 on: 26 Mar 2007, 18:27 »

Man, it feels like forever since I last played a Pokemon game, Gold/Silver was my last. I'm actually really interested in this though.
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« Reply #20 on: 06 Apr 2007, 16:47 »

I love Pokemon. Sadly, I never got to play the original, because by the time they came out I had "moved on" from my gameboy days, and thus, had no way to play it. Eventually I got a GBA, and the first Pokemon game I played was Ruby, and that particular era remains my favorite, even after playing Fire red and Leaf green. I'm really looking forward to these games, and already have a pre-order for both of them. Why am I getting two? Because, like many other people, especially those who violently claim they aren't, I'm a consumer whore. But, seriously, I love these games, no matter what those people who play "adult" games say.
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« Reply #21 on: 06 Apr 2007, 18:54 »

If anyone listens obsessively to the 1up.com Retronauts podcast like I do, they did an episode on Pokemon this week. It's quite funny and good, but not very informative.
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« Reply #22 on: 06 Apr 2007, 22:34 »

from what I have seen the bottom screen will be the clock and map and such, as well as some odd spinner thing that I have only really seen in the commercials

another interesting thing is the random trade option, sort of like an auction you can put up a pokemon that you want to get rid of and which one you want, then when someone finds your choice and accepts them you can instantly trade with them, no friend codes are needed.

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« Reply #23 on: 07 Apr 2007, 01:12 »

I beat Red, Blue, Yellow, Silver, and Gold back in the day, getting pretty much all the Pokemon in them all, but I haven't played any of the games since then.  Mayhaps I'll get back into it with this one, but we shall see.  My funds are kind of low at the moment, but I have such fond memories of the games that I may be forced into it.
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« Reply #24 on: 09 Apr 2007, 08:10 »

I might get Pearl.

It's not like I need any more animals with getting a dog and everything but eh, it'll be fun.
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« Reply #25 on: 09 Apr 2007, 11:29 »

If anyone listens obsessively to the 1up.com Retronauts podcast like I do, they did an episode on Pokemon this week. It's quite funny and good, but not very informative.

I only listen to one game-related podcast obsessively, and that's the HotSpot.
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« Reply #26 on: 09 Apr 2007, 13:02 »

I'll pass this time. Even though pokemons are cute and quite addictive games, I just don't care about those new pokemons. Now there are too many pokemons, that aren't even well designed. The gameplay doesn't evolve and it just... it just.. I don't know, but I am not going to buy new pokemons. Maybe if I get a huge amount of moolah, now I don't really have money for games that are not must-have.

Already have Pokemon Fire Red on GBA, that's enough for me. :)
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« Reply #27 on: 11 Apr 2007, 16:17 »

I'm so excited! I stopped at Gold, too, and this looks so confusing, but Troy and Chris are both getting Diamond so I'm going to get Pearl.
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« Reply #28 on: 11 Apr 2007, 17:16 »

I beat Gold way back when, but I haven;'t played one since then.

I'm disappointed in any Pokemon game that doesn't let you clone the item in the 6th slot.  Ah, those were the days.
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« Reply #29 on: 11 Apr 2007, 22:55 »

i have not played any pokemon since yellow and a bit of crystal. i think it was crystal. i will likely get one of these though. maybe both, since it turns out i will have to get a DS lite to use the web browser and the boy might be getting my old DS....

what's the difference between diamond and pearl?
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« Reply #30 on: 11 Apr 2007, 23:11 »

I assume it's just the same difference as Red/Blue, Gold/Silver, etc.
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« Reply #31 on: 11 Apr 2007, 23:15 »

so just different pokemon in each one? i never hookend mine up with any other ones. if gameplay is the same in each one i'll just get what they have at the store, i suppose. i am not all pokemon master-like the way some of you guys are, i thought maybe the difference would be something like the difference between legend of zelda oracle of ages/oracle of seasons.
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« Reply #32 on: 11 Apr 2007, 23:25 »

Well, since this one is Wi-Fi enabled, we can trade with each other and complete the entire thing pretty easily!
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« Reply #33 on: 12 Apr 2007, 13:34 »

Chris said they were really different. But he is a notorious liar. I'm too lazy to wikipedia it.

Wait, but if I don't have a Lite, I can still do web stuff, right? I never really try to collect all of the Pokemon, I just like building cute/hilarious teams and taking people out with 'em.
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« Reply #34 on: 12 Apr 2007, 14:02 »

Yeah, the Wi-Fi isn't exclusive to the Lite, it should work with both.
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« Reply #35 on: 20 Apr 2007, 20:09 »

Pokemon Diamond/Pearl comes out THIS SUNDAY! time to get excited!
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« Reply #36 on: 20 Apr 2007, 20:20 »

The games don't come out here until June. But the DS games are region free right though? So I could order one online from somewhere and get it shipped here if I wanted it sooner, right?
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« Reply #37 on: 20 Apr 2007, 20:25 »

yup. Nintendo's handhelds have ALWAYS been region free. So import to your heart's content.
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« Reply #38 on: 20 Apr 2007, 20:39 »

I thought that would be the case. Now to decide whether I want to buy it now and spend money that I shouldn't spend or whether I should wait a while until I have more cash.
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« Reply #39 on: 20 Apr 2007, 22:35 »

I will be receiving my copy of Pearl on Monday or Tuesday. Joy!
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« Reply #40 on: 20 Apr 2007, 23:07 »

I ordered it on bestbuy.com and got 2-day shipping, so depending on whether they wait until Sunday to ship it, I'll get it on Tuesday or Wednesday. It will consume me and probably cause me to fail calculus.
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« Reply #41 on: 21 Apr 2007, 14:21 »

Picking Diamond up tomorrow (although that's subject to change depending on availability..). Still undecided which of the ugly starter types to choose.
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« Reply #42 on: 21 Apr 2007, 15:21 »

The water one looks cute.

Okay after looking at wikipedia, things I'm excited about:
- I can play as a girl. YAY. She's so cute, too.
- Munchlax, hahahah.
- Being terribly confused by all of the Pokemon that I won't recognize.
- Er, I don't know. Just wasting a lot of time.

I didn't preorder so I'll probably get mine next weekend.
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« Reply #43 on: 21 Apr 2007, 18:52 »

I'm usually a Fire-type starter, but I haven't seen any of the new starters.

EDIT: I've looked up the three starters, and I'm now trying to decide between the Water and Fire types. Grass/Ground has way too many weaknesses. I have to decide between the weaknesses of Fire/Fighting and Water/Steel and which are more of a liability.
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« Reply #44 on: 21 Apr 2007, 19:40 »

Fire/Fighting: 7 Strengths, 4 Weaknesses (Rock is super-effective against Fire but weak against Fighting, so it cancels out to an extent)

Water/Steel: 5 Strengths, 4 Weaknesses (Fire cancels out)

Grass/Ground: 7 Strengths, 5 Weaknesses including a double weakness to Ice (Water cancels out)

So yeah, the grass guy is out. Out of the other two, there's not a HUGE difference. It's what type of Gyms are near the start of the game that really depends on how hard (or easy) early gameplay will be. Near the end you'll have more of a variety of Pokemon to choose from.

If I get one of the games (and a DS, for that matter), I'll probably choose the fire guy (no matter how ugly it is).
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« Reply #45 on: 21 Apr 2007, 20:00 »

That's true, but one of the weaknesses of Fighting is Psychic and Psychic is a pain in the ass to counter.
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« Reply #46 on: 21 Apr 2007, 23:20 »

One of the weaknesses of Fire is that it's a fucking monkey, so I'm going to break my tradition and roll with water.
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« Reply #47 on: 21 Apr 2007, 23:31 »

I'm leaning towards Water as well. The evolved version of Fire looks alright, but the starter is kind of lame.
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« Reply #48 on: 22 Apr 2007, 00:21 »

Turn-based RPGs just put me to sleep nowadays.  I can't even go back and play old beloved Final Fantasy titles.

I was a pokemon MASTER back in the day.  Through the use of the x3 speed boost of the N64 Collesium cartridge, I literally leveled up every single final evolution in the original Blue to level 100, without the use of rock candy.  I just held up on a controller with auto-buttons while I played much more intently Baldur's Gate 2.  I could out-think anyone's team due to the sheer diversity of my stock, as well as the fact rock candies screw with your leveling stats (aka: leveling legit makes you more powerful).

Does this latest incarnation have any of those stupid "must catch during daylight hours" type pokemon that were in silver/gold?  That's one reason I never went beyond Blue, was the sheer ridiculousness you had to put up with to catch certain rare monsters.
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« Reply #49 on: 22 Apr 2007, 00:26 »

The night/day system is back, but I don't know if that'll affect when Pokemon appear or not. I know it does affect certain moves, like the weather effects. So, for example, Solarbeam won't work as well at night, for obvious reasons.

The thing is, the DS's clock is adjustable, so it doesn't matter. If you want to catch a certain Pokemon but don't want to wake up early, save, turn off the DS, adjust the clock, and presto!
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