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Re: The Guitar Topic
« Reply #400 on: 05 Dec 2007, 20:28 »

I use the heaviest gauge i can get on my jag, because the guy i bought it from said heavier strings keep the bridge from buzzing.
Meanwhile, my tiesco uses the lightest strings i could find, because it's ply, and the neck join is maybe 5mm thick.
I'm not picky about brand.

I like my strings old, not so old they rust, i take care of them to prevent that, but old none the less, maybe its because im a bassist

On my basses i use a light guage, something like 45-100.

Anyone here use flats on a guitar?

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« Reply #401 on: 05 Dec 2007, 20:38 »

I haven't used flats, but I'd like to on my guitar after next.  ;) 
Right now I use  11-49 on my standard tuning ax, and 14/14/28/28/38/38 on my funny stuff guitar.

I gotta get a new guitar, tho.  I'm starting lessons, so i need to get something to play righthanded so i don't confuse beginners.  I guess being ambidextrous aint that bad after all!  It's gotta be thin and audible unplugged, so I'm looking at getting some old low/no name archtop or semihollow.  Anyone have anything they'd like to let go?

P s, I'll post pics of mine as soon as I get em.  At least the tele I built.  <3

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« Reply #402 on: 05 Dec 2007, 21:26 »

9s on Fenders and 10s on Gibsons.

i flew to Japan on a 777 and then Singapore on a 767, that was scary enough for me.
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« Reply #404 on: 05 Dec 2007, 22:31 »

HOLY SHIT $685!!! I was happy to pay almost twice that... $1600 new without the custom options, mint condition. YEAAHHHH
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« Reply #405 on: 05 Dec 2007, 22:48 »

Nice. Grats man.
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« Reply #406 on: 05 Dec 2007, 23:28 »

Good buy!
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« Reply #407 on: 06 Dec 2007, 01:05 »

a .65 bass string for the low B. It works extremely well.

I've been thinking about doing this since I got mine! It seems like the regular-gauge B string doesn't put out as much volume as the rest of the set. Adjusting the pickup pole-pieces helped, but with a 25.5" scale I bet a bass string would sound really tight, especially since I dropped the B down to an A.

(god I'm a nerd)

The Gauge on the low B has always been total science, really. You have to find the right balance.
For instance; if it's to thick, it'll sound all woofy and muddy. If you have it too thin, it'll buzz and flop like there's no tomorrow.

First of all though, and I believe you've heard this a squillion times before, change the pickups!
Stock pickups in recent day Ibanez models have been known to be less than impressive, although with sufficient tweaking of the rest of your gear you can make it sound cool.
I for one, managed to squeeze a fairly decent out of an RG7321 i used to own.

I used a POD Xt, directly into the computer, and I nailed a pretty cool Meshuggah "Nothing"-style tone.
This can be heard, here:

http://download.yousendit.com/D472737A432BD329

The guitar was tuned down 1 1/2 step for that clip, by using a regular set of .12's, plus the .65
I had bundles of fun with that tuning  :evil:

That said, I would think that a .60 low B would be the absolute minimum, for dropped A. I don't quite know how the string tension feels on an RG1527, it's fairly loose on S7420, which is why I upped the gauges, but it was a little tighter on the RG7321. I don't know if it was the fixed bridge or what.
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« Reply #408 on: 06 Dec 2007, 02:12 »

Also, a longer scale length probably would help. Get a 28" and stop being such a little girl, JEPH
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« Reply #409 on: 06 Dec 2007, 05:30 »

Playing .09s is admitting that you are a pussy

When I was in high school, a kid called me a pussy for playing .10s.

Right now, I'm using GHS Boomers, .12-.52. I keep my Firebird in D standard, so it works pretty well. Used to play Ernie Balls, both .10-.48 and .10-.52, but they broke way too often for me.
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« Reply #410 on: 06 Dec 2007, 08:42 »


I currently rock one of these.
If i ever get around to getting another one I'm thinking about getting a tele and swapping out the pickups for some nice Lace Sensors.
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« Reply #411 on: 06 Dec 2007, 08:59 »

What's wrong with using 9s? I just use 9s because I've trained my fingers to be strong enough that I bend entire chords. It's a major part of my technique now.
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« Reply #412 on: 06 Dec 2007, 10:02 »

What's wrong with using 9s? I just use 9s because I've trained my fingers to be strong enough that I bend entire chords. It's a major part of my technique now.
11s don't break nearly as often, sound drastically better, and are maaaybe two weeks harder to bend multiple strings. 
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« Reply #413 on: 06 Dec 2007, 10:17 »

What's wrong with using 9s? I just use 9s because I've trained my fingers to be strong enough that I bend entire chords. It's a major part of my technique now.
11s don't break nearly as often, sound drastically better, and are maaaybe two weeks harder to bend multiple strings. 

I hardly break strings anyway.
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« Reply #414 on: 06 Dec 2007, 10:34 »

What's wrong with using 9s? I just use 9s because I've trained my fingers to be strong enough that I bend entire chords. It's a major part of my technique now.
11s don't break nearly as often, sound drastically better, and are maaaybe two weeks harder to bend multiple strings. 

I hardly break strings anyway.

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« Reply #415 on: 06 Dec 2007, 11:09 »

I'm gonna have to agree with Lummer there, Gaz. If you're not breaking your 9s once every 2 hours, you're a pussy.

And you know enough about my personal life to make that really mean something.
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« Reply #416 on: 06 Dec 2007, 11:44 »

I hardly break strings anyway.

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« Reply #417 on: 06 Dec 2007, 15:24 »

.09s !?  I knew they made them, I just didn't know people actually played them.  Those must be some dainty fingers ya got there.
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« Reply #418 on: 06 Dec 2007, 19:48 »

oh shit guys it's the dude from Nickelback
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« Reply #419 on: 06 Dec 2007, 19:56 »

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« Reply #420 on: 06 Dec 2007, 19:59 »

The Gauge on the low B has always been total science, really. You have to find the right balance.
For instance; if it's to thick, it'll sound all woofy and muddy. If you have it too thin, it'll buzz and flop like there's no tomorrow.

First of all though, and I believe you've heard this a squillion times before, change the pickups!
Stock pickups in recent day Ibanez models have been known to be less than impressive, although with sufficient tweaking of the rest of your gear you can make it sound cool.
I for one, managed to squeeze a fairly decent out of an RG7321 i used to own.

That said, I would think that a .60 low B would be the absolute minimum, for dropped A. I don't quite know how the string tension feels on an RG1527, it's fairly loose on S7420, which is why I upped the gauges, but it was a little tighter on the RG7321. I don't know if it was the fixed bridge or what.

Yeah, I definitely need a different bridge pickup in there. I actually like IBZ neck pickups, but I'll probably toss a JB or a Custom in the bridge when I find time.

String tension is pretty much normal for a fender-scale guitar, since every other string is in standard tuning. I think I'll mess around with the string gauge on the B when I put in the new pickup, since I'll have to take the strings off for that anyway.

The polepiece adjustment DID help, though. This is what I've been working on lately and I'm a lot happier with the string balance on it. And yeah there's a total Meshuggah ripoff riff in there.
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« Reply #421 on: 06 Dec 2007, 21:13 »

What's wrong with using 9s? I just use 9s because I've trained my fingers to be strong enough that I bend entire chords. It's a major part of my technique now.
11s don't break nearly as often, sound drastically better, and are maaaybe two weeks harder to bend multiple strings. 

I hardly break strings anyway.
Hardly? 
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« Reply #422 on: 06 Dec 2007, 21:19 »

My brother paired the cheapest, crappiest bass with the heaviest strings he could find for years. He got a Geddy Lee jazz bass recently and put some "light" strings on it and it's ridiculous how much better he sounds now... although he still practices on the POS bass with the stupidly thick neck. I guess there's something to be said for practicing in way worse conditions than you actually play under. His finger strength is disgusting now.
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« Reply #423 on: 07 Dec 2007, 00:08 »

I play 9's (ernie ball slinkies are my favorites) . My guitar is set up to use that gauge so if I wanted to play anything diffrent I would have to get the neck adjusted.
I break strings a lot, but I like the twangy sound I get out of the ligher strings.
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« Reply #424 on: 07 Dec 2007, 07:29 »

but I'll probably toss a JB

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In not-fucking-around news, the only way you can play 9s and not be considered a complete and total LITTLE GIRL is to use this specific set of 9s.

I guess there's something to be said for practicing in way worse conditions than you actually play under. His finger strength is disgusting now.

Agreed. My Kay (the '53) has the action set literally 3x as high as my dad's '37 Kay, and every time I play the '37... shit, it's like I was used to slicing frozen butter with a VCR, and then transitioning to slicing thawed butter with a straight razor.
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« Reply #425 on: 07 Dec 2007, 07:34 »

Pat, that's easily the worst metaphor I've ever seen. Slicing butter with a VCR?
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« Reply #426 on: 07 Dec 2007, 07:45 »

You haven't played a guitar with 1/8" action, 12-54 brass-wound steel strings, and a 25" scale length?
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« Reply #427 on: 07 Dec 2007, 07:52 »

Vaugely, and the neck was warped. I just found it incredibly annoying.
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« Reply #428 on: 07 Dec 2007, 09:24 »

I'm sorry, so why exactly is one a pussy for not snapping strings? I prefer the sound of older strings to new ones. New ones are too bright. Plus, I tend to have strings from different packs on my guitar at once. It makes for slightly different tones.

And KimJongSick, ya muthaphuqqing prick - I'm not taking any shit from you. You currently have at least -3 penises and -9 testicles.
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« Reply #429 on: 07 Dec 2007, 09:27 »

I'll agree with you on the old strings part. Generally I play mine until they get rusty. And then about another week or so after that.
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« Reply #430 on: 07 Dec 2007, 10:02 »

You currently have at least -3 penises and -9 testicles.

This is why you should start using REAL MAN strings. If even my pathetic ass can use REAL MAN strings (I've been known to use 12s on my Les Paul copy) then you can use REAL MAN strings.
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« Reply #431 on: 07 Dec 2007, 10:39 »

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« Reply #432 on: 07 Dec 2007, 10:53 »

You currently have at least -3 penises and -9 testicles.

This is why you should start using REAL MAN strings. If even my pathetic ass can use REAL MAN strings (I've been known to use 12s on my Les Paul copy) then you can use REAL MAN strings.

Fuck straight off, Patrick. I'm going to start using 14s.
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« Reply #433 on: 07 Dec 2007, 11:05 »

I use D'Addario EJ22's on my guitar. (13, 17, 26w, 36, 46, 56).
I'm also tuned down to C#.
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« Reply #434 on: 07 Dec 2007, 11:09 »

Downtuning = release of tension = not nearly as REAL MAN as tuning to standard E with 13s.

Also: FUCK YOU BOTH, SHANE AND JEPH, I'M GOING TO START USING ANCHOR CHAINS
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« Reply #435 on: 07 Dec 2007, 11:29 »

A set of 13's tuned to C# would have very snappy tension on pretty much any axe.

Personally, i really prefer the whole light top/heavy bottom thing. Works perfectly for me!
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« Reply #436 on: 07 Dec 2007, 12:15 »

Yeah, well I'm going to start murdering people, around six, maybe seven if I need a spare, and cutting off their dicks and using THEM as strings because I'm that hardcore!

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« Reply #437 on: 07 Dec 2007, 17:31 »

because I'm that hardcore! creepy.
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« Reply #439 on: 07 Dec 2007, 19:15 »

I'm gonna try .11s tuned to standard.

I'm going to gauge my eyes off when these break ain't I?




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« Reply #440 on: 07 Dec 2007, 22:11 »

Don't worry about elevens, dude.  They are pretty light.


Sometimes, if I have an extra set, I'll just go after them with a pocketknife to hear the broken string scrape against my pickups.   Of course, I'm crazy. 
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« Reply #441 on: 09 Dec 2007, 01:11 »


^^^My baby.


^^^My baby soon-to-be.

I swear, I love hollowbodies so damn much. I'm a convert for life.
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« Reply #442 on: 09 Dec 2007, 04:39 »

I hate you so goddamn much right now. I love Sheratons.
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« Reply #443 on: 09 Dec 2007, 07:19 »

Don't worry about elevens, dude.  They are pretty light.

What kind of bullshit pissing contest has this thread turned into?
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« Reply #444 on: 09 Dec 2007, 07:30 »

Let's talk about necks.

I can't play classical nylon-strung acoustics because the neck is so damned wide and I can't friggin' handle that inward-curved fretboard. I have long fingers but I'm so used to necks the width of my electrics that it's nigh impossible for me to play those damn things.

I also prefer the 24.74" scale length because I don't like a whole lot of sustain, as I've mentioned before. I can reach just fine on a 25.5 but it sustains too long for my liking.
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« Reply #445 on: 09 Dec 2007, 07:31 »

Sheratons in black are perfect. Dear god.
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« Reply #446 on: 09 Dec 2007, 09:26 »

So, I just changed my strat from 009ers to 011 to give it a try, and the bridge suddenly lifted a whole bunch. I like the playability a lot more, but is this freaking normal?

I tuned it, the intonation as well, still lifted a lot more than it was when I was using 009. I know the tension is a lot harder, and whatnot, but I don't think this is normal, and I'm afraid to get hit smack with the bridge in the face while playing it.

Also, I'm scared to use tremolo now.
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« Reply #447 on: 09 Dec 2007, 10:11 »

Man, I am posting in here a hell of a lot.

Just open up the plate in the back and tighten the screws that hold the spring plate. That should help get your bridge back to normal.

I should also suggest adding a couple of springs to the tremolo once you do that, and then re-adjust the spring plate, just so you don't overstress the springs you've got (most stock Strats only have 3 installed at purchase).
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« Reply #448 on: 09 Dec 2007, 14:00 »

Sheratons in black are perfect. Dear god.
I hate you so goddamn much right now. I love Sheratons.

I know. It sounds glorious. When I bought it (it was only like, $550) I got to play one of the $2000something Gibsons, and to be honest there wasn't a huge difference. Mostly electronics.
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Re: The Guitar Topic
« Reply #449 on: 09 Dec 2007, 14:37 »

Anyone have any experience with Gibson Marauders (Wikipedia it if you don't know)?

I see them going for wicked cheap on eBay all the time, and they look pretty badass, but I'd like to hear some opinions before I make any decisions.
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