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« Reply #450 on: 09 Dec 2007, 15:53 »



*gleee*

most recent purchase! Can't wait to put my hands on it.
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« Reply #451 on: 09 Dec 2007, 16:04 »

Herm...I'm not a huge fan of Fender amps, but the more I play with it, the more my Fender FM 212DSP grows on me.  I played with the amp modeler, and the bass, middle, and trebels and got it to sound pretty damn good, in my opinion.  The amp I have it set to model is one of the seven or so British tube models.

Which one is that?
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« Reply #452 on: 09 Dec 2007, 16:32 »

Fender Pro Reverb, dated 1979, 70w pure tubes baby.

It's freaking sweet and I want to make sweet love to it all night long.

I'll get some pics once UPS decide to deliver it. In the next YEAR or so.
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« Reply #453 on: 09 Dec 2007, 17:58 »

Nice! Silverface Fender combos are really underrated.
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« Reply #454 on: 09 Dec 2007, 20:16 »

I think my friend has an old Epi Sheraton in red.  This same friend has a silverface Bassman half-stack he leaves in my basement.  He also recently received the following as a gift (he plays bass and guitar):



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« Reply #455 on: 09 Dec 2007, 21:30 »

That's a cool looking bass.  I really want to get an upright.  So versatile.
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« Reply #456 on: 09 Dec 2007, 21:54 »

Wow, that's one weird bass. I checked their site out, and they seem totally for real. I can't quite see what the point is, though, and their FAQ doesn't cover that. Usually companies that make weird shit do so because they think it is better somehow or optimal for certain players.
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« Reply #457 on: 09 Dec 2007, 23:12 »

Cool bass, but $395? A bit much for a stick with tuners, bridge, pickups and a couple of output jacks.

I use .011-.052 on my Jaguar, .010-.049 on my Jazzmaster right now but will probably put .011s on that too. I'm deciding between .010s and .011 for my Casino. On bass I like .045-.105, .135 for the B string if I remember right. I use D'Addario XLs for everything, haven't tried other guitar strings but have tried other bass brands (DRs, TI Flats) and not liking them. I too like my strings slightly dead.
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« Reply #458 on: 09 Dec 2007, 23:48 »

*longbow bass*
More info.

I prefer krappy guitars

They make some with bodies too.

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« Reply #459 on: 10 Dec 2007, 05:38 »

Cool bass, but $395? A bit much for a stick with tuners, bridge, pickups and a couple of output jacks.

I use .011-.052 on my Jaguar, .010-.049 on my Jazzmaster right now but will probably put .011s on that too


You have a Jag and a Jazzmaster? JEALOUS.
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« Reply #460 on: 10 Dec 2007, 06:36 »

I was about to say the same thing, but with more use of the word "bastard".
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« Reply #461 on: 10 Dec 2007, 07:01 »

So I'm looking for a new guitar/amp.

I currently have a Yamaha beginner's pack (EG 112 with with a GA-10 amp), which have lasted me 6 years. The guitar is starting to get a twang I don't quite like, and the amp is starting to buzz at lower and higher volumes. I don't ask for much in way of quality, but it's starting to become a bit annoying.

My budget is fairly tight/ I don't know all that much about guitars (six strings, neck, body, pickups), or amps(sound -> more sound).

Any suggestions? What should I be looking for? Are these danelectros worth looking into?
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« Reply #462 on: 10 Dec 2007, 07:10 »

Danos have a very specific sound, but at the price the reissues are selling for (about $250), why not get one?

How big of an amp are you looking for/what do you play?
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« Reply #463 on: 10 Dec 2007, 13:46 »

I'm not planning any shows any time soon, so the amp doesn't have to be big, just something with a decent sound that I can hear in my room. In fact, if I get a new guitar, I'm probably not going to be able to get a new amp for a while.

I play a bunch of everything, but if I'm just jamming I end up playing surf - or stuff that sounds like it. Not much gain, melodic, pretty distinct notes.
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« Reply #464 on: 10 Dec 2007, 13:59 »

I might be being a bit hypocritical here, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say a small Fender might do nicely for that.  Especially one of the tube ones.  Like a DeVille or something.  I don't know, it's just a thought.  I kind of liked the clean and dirty tones you could get out of them.
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« Reply #465 on: 10 Dec 2007, 14:20 »

I can't stress enough- spend as much as you can on the amp. A lot of people save up for nice guitars and settle for shitty amps, and get shitty tone as a result.

Your Yamaha through a nice amp will sound loads better than a Dano through your little practice amp.

I second the Fender Hot Rod DeVille or Deluxe suggestion. They are somewhat muddy at hi-gain settings but for the kind of music you described, they are perfect. Also if you later decide to play shows, they have more than enough power for you to use them on stage.
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« Reply #466 on: 10 Dec 2007, 14:22 »

Sadly, the cheapest tube fender is $200 new.  And that's for a 5w practice amp.  If you are really on a tight budget, but need something new, I suggest you look at a Kustom Tube 12A Practice amp.  It's solid state, but it has a tube pre-amp, and I've heard some very good things about it. 

As far as guitars go, I really have to vote for looking for a used or new Danoelectro re-issue.  For their quality they are DIRT cheap.  Mine was $180, and it plays and sounds great.  New they run for about $250, but do some snooping around at your local music stores (aka not Guitar Center) and see if you can find some.  Also, from what you said about what you like to play, a Dano sounds about right.
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« Reply #467 on: 10 Dec 2007, 14:30 »

I don't trust companies that replace "c" with "k" to sound cooler. They are up to something.
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« Reply #468 on: 10 Dec 2007, 15:32 »

I might be being a bit hypocritical here, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say a small Fender might do nicely for that.  Especially one of the tube ones.  Like a DeVille or something.  I don't know, it's just a thought.  I kind of liked the clean and dirty tones you could get out of them.

The DeVille, at 60 watts is the biggest cat in the Hot Rod series and is hardly a small tube amp. In fact, it is often too damn loud.

I don't think you should get a Danelectro, personally. I wouldn't have one as my only guitar, they are fairly special things with lots of quirks. (Do the new ones have truss rods?) They feel about as cheap as they look, even though they sound great. Though I think the new ones have adjustable bridges which is a plus over the old wooden things they used to use...

If you can give us a better idea of your budget we'll be able to make better suggestions.

I also agree with Ballard on getting a nice amp. Anything through your amp will probably sound crap. Having said that I do have this tiny solid state bass practice combo which was my first amp ever which I enjoy playing guitar through.
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« Reply #469 on: 10 Dec 2007, 15:39 »

I stomped the everliving FUCK out of my first amp. It was a Johnson RepTone 15, a little 15w solid-state job. Made out of masonite, didn't last long. It seriously took like 2 kicks from some running shoes and it was already well beyond repair.

But damn it sounded good before it became so shitty as to warrant my rock star rampage.
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« Reply #470 on: 10 Dec 2007, 15:41 »

I'd like to put in a good word for the Ibanez Valbee.

Very nice-sounding little valve amp.
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« Reply #471 on: 10 Dec 2007, 19:04 »

I absolutely wish I could run an Orange Tiny Terror to one of those Orange 1x12 cabs.  I played my Dano through that setup before I bought it and I basically was in heaven.
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« Reply #472 on: 10 Dec 2007, 20:58 »

I wish Orange amps weren't so god damned expensive.  I'd possibly get one if they were relatively affordable.

The DeVille, at 60 watts is the biggest cat in the Hot Rod series and is hardly a small tube amp. In fact, it is often too damn loud.

It's relatively small, when you think about it.  I play a 100 Watt Fender amp in my room, and that works fine.  I mean, there are some Krank cabs that go up to like, 1000 watts or something utterly ridiculous like that.
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« Reply #474 on: 10 Dec 2007, 21:51 »

I can't stress enough- spend as much as you can on the amp. A lot of people save up for nice guitars and settle for shitty amps, and get shitty tone as a result.

Agreed. In all honesty, if I had been smart, I would have spent half the money I did on my Ibanez and taken the extra few hundred and plowed it into a solid li'l pratice amp. As it stands now I basically swipe my brother's gear for as long as I can get away with it. Ah well, at least it's bought me some time to figure out what I'm looking for before I really commit some dollars.
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« Reply #475 on: 10 Dec 2007, 21:58 »

I wish Orange amps weren't so god damned expensive.  I'd possibly get one if they were relatively affordable.

The DeVille, at 60 watts is the biggest cat in the Hot Rod series and is hardly a small tube amp. In fact, it is often too damn loud.

It's relatively small, when you think about it.  I play a 100 Watt Fender amp in my room, and that works fine.  I mean, there are some Krank cabs that go up to like, 1000 watts or something utterly ridiculous like that.

I have a 50 watt Mesa/Boogie combo and the goddamned thing is SO LOUD I only ever needed to turn the master up to 5 when playing with my friend (who is the loudest drummer I've ever played with).
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« Reply #476 on: 11 Dec 2007, 01:41 »

Shane recently showed me a Fender amp that was something like 2500w, I think it was. It came with 25 sets of earplugs. Shane, help me on the specifics here.

During testing of this godforsaken monster at full volume, they set off car and building alarms and the police came banging on their door wondering what the fuck was going on. I am pretty sure you can get all kinds of feedback from that beastly creation.

Also my 1x12 100w Marshall combo has been known to rattle the windows across the street.
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« Reply #477 on: 11 Dec 2007, 02:05 »

I wish Orange amps weren't so god damned expensive.  I'd possibly get one if they were relatively affordable.

The DeVille, at 60 watts is the biggest cat in the Hot Rod series and is hardly a small tube amp. In fact, it is often too damn loud.

It's relatively small, when you think about it.  I play a 100 Watt Fender amp in my room, and that works fine.  I mean, there are some Krank cabs that go up to like, 1000 watts or something utterly ridiculous like that.

What's your amp?
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« Reply #478 on: 11 Dec 2007, 02:50 »

I wish Orange amps weren't so god damned expensive.  I'd possibly get one if they were relatively affordable.

The DeVille, at 60 watts is the biggest cat in the Hot Rod series and is hardly a small tube amp. In fact, it is often too damn loud.

It's relatively small, when you think about it.  I play a 100 Watt Fender amp in my room, and that works fine.  I mean, there are some Krank cabs that go up to like, 1000 watts or something utterly ridiculous like that.


Alas, if I remember correctly your Fender is Frontman Series aye?

60Watts tube power is enough to mow down the lawn if you turn it in 6, tear down a brick wall on 8, and kill small rodents on 9.
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« Reply #479 on: 11 Dec 2007, 03:37 »

The guitar is starting to get a twang I don't quite like,

Trust me, no good twang.

Your Yamaha through a nice amp will sound loads better than a Dano through your little practice amp.

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I second the Fender Hot Rod DeVille or Deluxe suggestion. They are somewhat muddy at hi-gain settings but for the kind of music you described, they are perfect. Also if you later decide to play shows, they have more than enough power for you to use them on stage.

It upsets me that the list price for those Fenders is about 500 - 650 quid = 1000 - 1300 dollars (on google search anyway)

However, on craigslist I saw some for 400 dollars, which makes me happy, cause that's basically my budget.

My biggest problem with a big amp (sizewise) is that I do a lot of traveling, and If I were to get one in NY, where it would be considerably cheaper, I would have to ship it to the UK, and still 'need' to have an amp in NY. So I'm guessing I'm looking for a smaller amp that's of decent quality.
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« Reply #480 on: 11 Dec 2007, 03:54 »

I wish Orange amps weren't so god damned expensive.  I'd possibly get one if they were relatively affordable.

The DeVille, at 60 watts is the biggest cat in the Hot Rod series and is hardly a small tube amp. In fact, it is often too damn loud.

It's relatively small, when you think about it.  I play a 100 Watt Fender amp in my room, and that works fine.  I mean, there are some Krank cabs that go up to like, 1000 watts or something utterly ridiculous like that.


Alas, if I remember correctly your Fender is Frontman Series aye?

60Watts tube power is enough to mow down the lawn if you turn it in 6, tear down a brick wall on 8, and kill small rodents on 9.

If his amp is a solid state that explains it. Solid state amps are basically maxed out at the rated wattage, and clip hard if pushed beyond. Tube power stages just start to break up there and can be cranked a fair bit more depending how dirty don't mind getting.

How small are you looking at, Staedler?
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« Reply #481 on: 11 Dec 2007, 05:27 »

Shane recently showed me a Fender amp that was something like 2500w, I think it was. It came with 25 sets of earplugs. Shane, help me on the specifics here.

Fender Metalhead. 550 watts.
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« Reply #482 on: 11 Dec 2007, 06:45 »

Jesus! Only 550? Man my memory sucks.

...holy shit it would be AWESOME to use a 2500w rig.
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« Reply #483 on: 11 Dec 2007, 07:50 »

Get on ebay- look up an old Music Man 2x12 combo.  Realize you're getting a classic Fender tube amp by Leo himself for like $400-$500 without the Fender nameplate.  Go home happy.
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« Reply #484 on: 11 Dec 2007, 07:54 »

Jesus man, quote tunnels...
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« Reply #485 on: 11 Dec 2007, 08:48 »

Shane recently showed me a Fender amp that was something like 2500w, I think it was. It came with 25 sets of earplugs. Shane, help me on the specifics here.

Fender Metalhead. 550 watts.

Which is still solid state.

Ie. utterly useless.
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« Reply #486 on: 11 Dec 2007, 11:52 »

I'm a little weary about it just because Fender's trying to do something metal-related.

Myself? Gonna get an AC-15. Eventually. *crosses fingers*
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« Reply #487 on: 11 Dec 2007, 12:42 »

I would fuck a walrus if it meant getting an AC30 and a 2x12 cabinet. I played my SG through an AC100 head + 4x12 cabinet in a store in mid-September and it really tested how well my parents potty trained me as a child. That thing was VICIOUS, man.
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« Reply #488 on: 12 Dec 2007, 01:37 »

since i don't know how to post pictures on a forum cuz i'm hot smart like that i'll tell you the guitars i have:


my prized possession is my gibson firebird VII reissue

i also have a Fender telecaster - maplewood which is the baby i learned on all those many years ago
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« Reply #489 on: 12 Dec 2007, 03:55 »

How small are you looking at, Staedler?

If it fits in a suitcase with room to spare for some clothes and it doesn't weigh a ton I'll be happy.
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« Reply #490 on: 12 Dec 2007, 08:38 »

How small are you looking at, Staedler?

If it fits in a suitcase with room to spare for some clothes and it doesn't weigh a ton I'll be happy.

It's way more than $400, but my guitar player plays this - http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM06/Content/Fender/PR/Jazzmaster-Ultralight.html  It sounds absolutely incredible, it's tiny as hell, and is louder than his silverface.  Damn cool amp.
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« Reply #492 on: 12 Dec 2007, 23:01 »

Now I want to hear a bossa nova cover of "This Is How You Remind Me."
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« Reply #493 on: 12 Dec 2007, 23:05 »

Good god I wish I had the equipment to do this right now.
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« Reply #494 on: 12 Dec 2007, 23:37 »

Bossa nova requires a lot more use of maj6 chords than anybody in Nickelback is capable of. Hate to disappoint you.
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« Reply #495 on: 12 Dec 2007, 23:39 »

Now I want to hear a Nickelback song with the maj6th overdubbed on top of everything. Just that one note.

"[CLONK] This is how [CLONK] you remind [CLONK] me"
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Re: The Guitar Topic
« Reply #496 on: 12 Dec 2007, 23:41 »

Just punch a goose at random intervals while listening to the song.
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« Reply #497 on: 12 Dec 2007, 23:58 »

Just punch a goose at random intervals while listening to the song.

There is something inherently wrong with this idea.
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Re: The Guitar Topic
« Reply #498 on: 13 Dec 2007, 00:09 »

Just punch a goose at random intervals while listening to the song.

There is nothing inherently wrong with this idea.

Geese are jerks.
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« Reply #499 on: 13 Dec 2007, 00:21 »

I remember my mom and I were on the Autobahn and all of a sudden I see this flight of 2 geese. All of a sudden, THUNK, we hit one of them at 90mph. I laughed really hard when I learned they mate for life and I am pretty sure this thread seals my fate as a bastard/non PETA member.

I'm going to laugh every time I hear a Nickelback song now.
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