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Is Centrino any good?
« on: 05 Aug 2007, 12:58 »

I'm getting a laptop and my dad is encouraging me to get one with a Centrino processor because it would be cheaper.  He says Centrino is pretty good.  I am skeptical.  Answers?
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #1 on: 05 Aug 2007, 15:18 »

Technically, Centrino is a combination of a certain kind of Intel CPU, Intel motherboard chips and their WLAN chipset. The only real alternative there is are setups by AMD.
And yes, Centrino is good. I wouldn't look for the badge as such, but the Core 2 Duo CPU (or basically any Core architecture CPU, really) is a lot better than anything AMD has to offer right now, both in terms of speed and in terms of heat (which translates to how long your notebook will run). The advantage of the Centrino architecture is, that all chips work together efficiently, something that's worth a damn lot in a notebook. But if a notebook only has a Core CPU with a different WLAN chipset, it's still good.
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #2 on: 05 Aug 2007, 22:17 »

Dunno why Centrino would be cheaper. Celeron, yes, but Centrino is just branding on Intel's mobile cpu + chipset.
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #3 on: 06 Aug 2007, 10:05 »

Centrino is a pretty broad term.  It covers computer CPU/Motherboard/WLAN chipsets since 2003.

The new Santa Rosa (which is the fourth(ish?)) generation of Centrino technology) is new and going to cost you a bundle.  Like any computer technology, the older it is -- the less it's going to cost you.
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #4 on: 06 Aug 2007, 11:01 »

Dunno why Centrino would be cheaper.

He might not have actually said that. 
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #5 on: 06 Aug 2007, 11:52 »

Oh man, guys, I'm sorry.  I was kinda loopy when I started this thread.  I know what Centrino means.  I don't know what got into me.  Can we make this thread where you guys link me to good notebooks priced around $1200?
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #6 on: 06 Aug 2007, 15:53 »

do you go to school?

if so, see if your school can point you in the direction of a company they work with for lower rates for students.

Otherwise, www.newegg.com is a pretty excellent website for buying new hardware.
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #7 on: 07 Aug 2007, 09:27 »

my laptop was actually free from my school. it's a Lenovo IBM Thinkpad R60.

and for being free, it's insanely awesome.

It doesn't have a whole bunch of fancy features, but it's got everything I need, enough hdd space, enough power to play civilization iv..

and the option i like the most is the mouse dot thing in the middle of the keyboard, instead of using the trackpad.
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #8 on: 07 Aug 2007, 10:35 »

and the option i like the most is the mouse dot thing in the middle of the keyboard, instead of using the trackpad.

Haha, really? Everyone alway sasks me to disable it for them.
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #9 on: 07 Aug 2007, 11:57 »

they're crazy. it's about 1000x more convienient. it's pressure sensitive, you don't have to pick up your finger ever, and it's right in the middle of the keyboard, so you barely have to move your hand to go from mouse moving to typing.

so, when you disable it, do you just take the little red dot out of the keyboard for them? because it's basically the same thing as disabling it?
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #10 on: 07 Aug 2007, 16:38 »

No, most notebooks' drivers for it have a checkbox for enabling/disabling under 'Mouse' in Control Panel. Their main gripe is that they'll accidentally brush against it while typing and it'll highlight and overwrite what they were typing or start them typing in the middle of what they'd already typed...

It's happened to me once or twice, and I never use it, so I just disable it. The looks of rapture on my clients' faces when I mentioned that I knew how to shut it off was delicious. I've had people hate it, I've had people not really care one way or the other, but I've never had someone love it. *shrugs*
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #11 on: 08 Aug 2007, 12:03 »

  Toshiba or HP make reliable and great laptops.  Toshiba for durability -- HP for looks.  Just an opinion.  I'd stay away from compaq (HP's lower line), Gateway (although they're getting better), and Dell (is now cutting costs and overcharging for their name).
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« Reply #12 on: 08 Aug 2007, 13:11 »

i agree with staying away from compaq. I had a desktop a few years back, and I've never had anything cause more problems. And from what I hear online, I'm not the only one.


although, I don't know how Dell can overcharge for their name when they sell computers for 400 bucks.
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #13 on: 08 Aug 2007, 13:57 »

Oh man, guys, I'm sorry.  I was kinda loopy when I started this thread.  I know what Centrino means.  I don't know what got into me.  Can we make this thread where you guys link me to good notebooks priced around $1200?

I agree with Tommy - HP puts out quality laptops.

A quick trip to hpshopping.com netted me this:
HP dv6500t 15.4" Laptop
FREE Upgrade from Genuine Windows Vista Home Basic to Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (32-bit)!
Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo processor T5450 (1.66 GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 667MHz FSB)
15.4" WXGA High-Definition HP BrightView Widescreen Display (1280 x 800)
75% OFF upgrade to 2GB DDR2 (2 Dimm)!!
50% OFF!! 383MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS!!
HP Imprint Finish (Radiance) + Microphone
Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection
FREE Upgrade from 80GB 5400RPM to 120GB 5400RPM!!
FREE Upgrade to LightScribe SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-RW with Double Layer Support
6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Microsoft(R) Office Home and Student 2007

Total price before rebate and taxes: $1,212.99. That's pretty damn good. If the laptop were for me, I'd upgrade the processor to the 2.0GHz, upgrade the wireless to ABGN w/ bluetooth, and add on a CD/DVD burning program.
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #14 on: 08 Aug 2007, 14:04 »

i agree with staying away from compaq. I had a desktop a few years back, and I've never had anything cause more problems. And from what I hear online, I'm not the only one.


although, I don't know how Dell can overcharge for their name when they sell computers for 400 bucks.

The original poster isn't looking for a bottom of the line machine, but if he were -- the $400 Dell comes with the same quality parts as your troublesome Compaq.  Dell's middle to upper line is overpriced considering the parts they're giving you -- and I get more repair calls on the newer Dell models than I do and ever did on the older models.
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #15 on: 08 Aug 2007, 16:33 »

I bought myself a replacement to my old Sony VAIO last year for about $1800.  Its a Toshiba Satellite and I have to say I have no gripes with it other than the crapware they are trying to stick with you at startup - which is easily removed.

Specs:

2.14 Intel Core 2 DuoCPU
1 Gb Ram (I am going to swap it with 2 2gb sticks when the next price drop comes)
8x Super DVD Writer
17" WXGA HD Widescreen (Res is like 1600x 1280 or something, I've forgotten)
120 GB 5400 (They sell 200gb 4200s for slight price increase, but 5400 is lowest RPM I'd go)
Bluetooth, Wifi, Firewire, Card Reader, tons of USB ports, etc etc
9 cell battery (I've ran my computer rendering Maya for 2 hours before it started getting pretty low, Movies and stuff 2-3 hours depending)
Vista Ultimate

My only gripe is I need to call Toshiba up as I just recently found out my Vista is 32 bit, which is crap since I ordered 64 bit.  When I was comparing computers HP had a few that were eye catching, but the only serious competitor price-wise and system-wise were the MacBook Pros which I still freaking want.  But the huge price difference for relatively same thing other than it being a Mac finally won out.  Also, when comparing laptops made by Dell (lol) with same stuff the price was a joke.  I was looking at a price of $2500+ at the time and when I called Dell to make a comparable custom machine the guy kept trying to sell me that XPS desktop replacer.  I don't need a 20lb laptop with subwoofers, geezuz.
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #16 on: 08 Aug 2007, 23:18 »

Good news, guys!  My laptop budget just went up.  I'm looking at maybe spending $1500-$1600 now!
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #17 on: 09 Aug 2007, 03:13 »

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834147379

Hi there. Then spend your leftover 100 buxx on this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145157

put those together and wham bam you should be set. (cept for vista sucking, but that's easily remedied by getting xp off a buddy or something.)

If it were me though, I'd hop my ass onto ebay, find myself a cheapass Macbook Pro that's up to snuff (2.4 core duo, 256 gddr3 video) and slap XP on that sexy bitch.
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #18 on: 09 Aug 2007, 12:45 »

Good news, guys!  My laptop budget just went up.  I'm looking at maybe spending $1500-$1600 now!

  If you want a PC, I'd suggest waiting until the day after Thanksgiving if possible (yes I know it's the biggest shopping day of the year).  The biggest deals occur then (online and in stores like Best Buy and Circuit City).  Either that or go with a Macbook with XP on it like suggested (unless you can stand OS X).  My wife has a Macbook and loves it -- she has both XP and OS-X on it (runs XP for casual activities // Runs OS-X for iPhoto/iMovie).  Not a bad idea, although I personally like PCs.

If you're really not in a rush, wait for the Intel Metro Laptop.  http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2007/tc20070523_272039.htm

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« Reply #19 on: 09 Aug 2007, 14:17 »

Good news, guys!  My laptop budget just went up.  I'm looking at maybe spending $1500-$1600 now!
i realize your limit might be that high, but it might be a better idea to make a list of options you need/want with reasons why. and then search around for different laptops with those features, and then you might have a lot more money to keep to spend on other things down the line.


This way, in 2 years you won't be wondering why you got a laptop with a GeForce 8800 graphics card when you don't do gaming or video editing, or whatever..

you know what i mean?
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #20 on: 10 Aug 2007, 01:22 »

Buy a Macbook (or pro refurbished), run windows and mac on one of the lightest, fastest laptops on the market. (p.s apple seem to be updating the design of a lot of their products at the moment, so i might be tempted to wait).
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #21 on: 10 Aug 2007, 07:15 »

i realize your limit might be that high, but it might be a better idea to make a list of options you need/want with reasons why.

I want a graphics card.  I want to play Gothic 3.
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« Reply #22 on: 10 Aug 2007, 10:55 »

well i'm just saying, don't get a computer that has top of the line everything, if you only need a few things. like if you're not going to use a DVD burner, then you could cross that off your list. if you're not going to use firewire, you can cross that off your list.

just little things that could potentially save you a couple hundred bucks, which you can spend on a new game and a hooker.
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #23 on: 11 Aug 2007, 10:54 »

I'm considering getting a notebook from Velocity Micro.  Does anyone know anything about this company?
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« Reply #24 on: 11 Aug 2007, 15:31 »

Buy a Macbook (or pro refurbished), run windows and mac on one of the lightest, fastest laptops on the market. (p.s apple seem to be updating the design of a lot of their products at the moment, so i might be tempted to wait).
I'm sorry. Macbooks are nice, even if the keyboard takes some getting used to and the screen is about average. But if you look at the 13.3" class, the Macbook is actually one of the heaviest. Take this from someone who owns a Sony SZ. That's 2.3kg for the Macbook vs. 1.8kg for the SZ. And there are lighter notebooks around than the SZ.
Generally, if you're tech-savvy, the Macbook is an option you should consider. Tech-savvy, that is, if you want to run Windows, because even with Bootcamp, it's going to take more effort and knowledge than a laptop with Windows pre-installed. Design-wise, they're gorgeous and if you like OSX, then go ahead.

Apart from that, I never liked the HP laptops, the ex-Compaq models are sort of nice but way out of your price-range. Lenovo is awesome, these things are built like a tank and the tech support is the best ever. I can also really recommend Samsung, at least in Europe, they've got great prices and a very good tech support.
Stay the fuck away from Sony unless you know that you can perform most repairs yourself (unless it's a real hardware failure).
Generally, I would only buy notebooks from big companies because tech support is something you have to rely on in a notebook, especially for all things hardware. You can't fix these things yourself (Software-wise and some hardware, you can, if you know what you're doing), so make sure the company has a good reputation. And generally, small companies only re-badge barebones sold by big OEMs from Taiwan. The support and development structure isn't as developed and you might be stuck with people who don't know what the hell they're doing or parts that run out after one year.

Also, before buying a notebook, try it in a store for some time. Play with the lighting, the screen settings, the keyboard and sturdiness of the entire thing. These are things that will annoy you later on, so make sure to check on them beforehand. I can't stress that enough, because I've seen tons of people complaining about these things because they only bothered to check for about one or two minutes.
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Re: Is Centrino any good?
« Reply #25 on: 12 Aug 2007, 02:39 »

The lightness thing was referring to the MBP, but i guess i should have made that more clear. Why is it any harder than running pre-installed windows? once you get past the installation process (which is incredibly easy, even without apple's guide) and install the provided (updated) drivers everything works pretty much seamlessly.
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« Reply #26 on: 12 Aug 2007, 04:28 »

Oh yeah. The MBP is indeed one of the lightest (and best) notebooks around in the 15.4" class. The only issue I really have with the MBP is the price. Jesus H. Christ, it's expensive, especially if you want to run Windows legally and thus have to buy a license for it as well.
And I know many people who are put off by installing an OS, no matter how easy it is. If you're interested in computers and know a little bit about them, I suspect that installing Windows on a MBP shouldn't be an issue. But if you want a notebook that runs Windows from the start and you don't feel like/can't install it, the MBP won't fit the bill.
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« Reply #27 on: 12 Aug 2007, 20:07 »

My laptop was around that price. Seriously, these Hewlett Packard Pavilion Laptops are awesome. The one I have has so many great little features. Bluetooth remote, webcam, microphones, lightscribe DVD writer, lots of expansion ports. I would recommend this range of HP over anything else out there. Don't be scared of Vista, it's actually really great if you have the power to run it.

Mine is a DV6330eu, it was only £600 and £60 for an extra GB of RAM I bought afterwards. I could not be happier for the money I spent.

I would say listen to Tommy.  My sister got one of these last year, and hers is still a really great laptop.  If you are sure you don't want an Apple (what I would want, and what I think is probably tops in terms of notebooks at the moment), then the HP Pavillion is really one of the best choices.
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« Reply #28 on: 15 Aug 2007, 15:33 »

Well, it was a pretty close race, but Velocity Micro beat out HP in the end.  I just ordered this nasty machine:
Motherboard     Intel® 945PM Chipset Motherboard with DDR2 memory, 1066MHz Front side Bus      
Processor    Intel® Core™ 2 Duo processor E6700, dual 2.67GHz cores, 4MB L2 Cache (+$95.00)    
Notebook Memory    2048MB Corsair® PC5300 DDR2 SODIMM (2x1024) (+$65.00)    
Display    15.4" WSXGA+ Wide Screen Active Matrix TFT Display (Ultra Sharp 1680x1050 native resolution)     
PCX Video    512MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ Go 8600GT, MXM 2.0 suppport, with full DirectX10 support     
Audio    Intel® High Definition 5.1-channel Audio     
Speakers    Integrated Stereo Speakers     
Mobile Hard Drive    160GB Hitachi® TravelStar 5400rpm SATA (Mobile) (+$40.00)    
Drive Bay 1    DVD-RW Super-Multi Drive 8x/6x RW 2.4x DL     
Media Reader    8-in-1 Media Reader: SD/Mini-SD/MMC/XD/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo     
USB Drive    None     
Network Adapter    Integrated 10/100/1000MBps Gigabit Ethernet Network Adapter     
LAN 2 or WiFi Adapter    Intel 4965 802.11 A+G+N WiFi Wireless Adapter with antenna     
Bluetooth    Integrated Bluetooth EDR 2.0     
WiFi Router    None     
Modem    Integrated 56K V.92 Modem     
FireWire    Integrated IEEE 1394 FireWire Port     
Ports    VGA, HDMI, S/PDIF or Headphone, Microphone, RJ11 Modem, 3 USB 2.0, TV-out, eSATA, Firewire, IrDA     
Operating System    Genuine Microsoft® Windows® Vista Home Premium 32-bit
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« Reply #29 on: 15 Aug 2007, 19:03 »

Good choice.  That laptop sounds pretty awesome.
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« Reply #30 on: 15 Aug 2007, 22:55 »

I hope it works awesome.  I think it will.  Velocity Micro has a sterling reputation.
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