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bryanthelion

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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #50 on: 06 Sep 2007, 05:45 »

I bought atlas shrugged for 8.99.

I'm starting it after "A thousand splendid suns"
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #51 on: 06 Sep 2007, 14:30 »

Why did you ask us if we thought the book was worth reading if you were gonna just buy it anyway?
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #52 on: 06 Sep 2007, 16:56 »

Terry Goodkind does not approve of this thread.

Haha don't even get me started on that man.
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #53 on: 06 Sep 2007, 18:13 »

meh,
Its kind of a big pop culture reference. If half the people posted like "Whos Ayn Rand?" I wouldnt have read it. But the more and more I hear of objectivism and libertarians I think of her. and its kind of a bug :/


I'll probably hate it. The font is REALLY tiny and the book is still the size of a brick. I cant handle those books, too epic.
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #54 on: 06 Sep 2007, 18:26 »

Then why did you buy it? Why not get it from a library?
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #55 on: 06 Sep 2007, 18:44 »

I tried,
I reserved it..

and they never called back...


Oh well! My mom wanted to read it too.
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #56 on: 06 Sep 2007, 19:30 »

You probably could have found it used for like a dollar somewhere.
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #57 on: 07 Sep 2007, 05:31 »

By buying books for myself, I'm helping the kids in africa.

Gosh, dont you even understand objectivism?!
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #58 on: 07 Sep 2007, 10:40 »

You're also helping to deteriorate the environment, by buying a new book, which may or may not be printed on recycled paper or paper bought from a company that does nothing whatsoever to replace the trees they cut down. You should be ashamed. You're also not supporting your community by using the library. JEEZE.
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #59 on: 07 Sep 2007, 11:38 »

Gosh, dont you even understand objectivism?!

So if you're such an expert on objectivism, why did you even buy the book?

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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #60 on: 07 Sep 2007, 11:50 »

And I thought we established within the context of the thread that Objectivism is garbage and for assholes.
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #61 on: 07 Sep 2007, 20:44 »

I just want to make clear that libertarianism and objectivism are not the same thing. Ayn Rand hated libertarians, and just because both groups advocate a strictly-limited government does not mean they are identical.
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #62 on: 08 Sep 2007, 22:07 »

I've got a question about the Fountainhead, actually.

At some other forum, Rand came up and some people dismissed her because supposedly, in the Fountainhead, a female character is sexually assaulted but is written as though she enjoys it (an extremely submissive character) I don't know the context of the passage or if it's even there, but it seems pretty damning on its face.

i seem to recall that she (dominique francon) wanted it, maybe she just didn't know it at the time. it is a fairly violent scene, but afterwards she reflects on it positively, saying that
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While Roark is working in the quarry, he encounters Dominique. There is an immediate physical attraction between the two of them. Dominique visits the quarry frequently to tempt Roark and requests that he be the one to repair some marble around the fireplace in her bedroom that she intentionally marred. He starts the work and subtly suggests to Miss Francon that she prey on someone in her own class. But she persists. After several meetings, Roark and Dominique have sex. There is controversy as to whether or not it was an act of rape. Rand herself has addressed this by stating "if it was rape, it was rape by engraved invitation." The acts of Dominique before and after the sex act are not consistent with a rape, but of a desired and consensual sexual encounter.
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #63 on: 09 Sep 2007, 07:57 »

What the fuck does "rape by engraved invitation" mean?
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #64 on: 09 Sep 2007, 09:27 »

It means that if a girl flirts with you a lot, it is okay to rape her!

(Also I never got past the first chapter of that book.)
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #65 on: 09 Sep 2007, 09:31 »

lol,

I think she was poking fun at the marble fireplace.

The begginning of ATLAS SHRUGGED, has lotsa traintalk. Though, interesting traintalk.


Though, I'm kind of distanced from the maincharacter. He speaks of forever as a good thing. I find it very scary O_O


-reads ayn rand wiki- Wow, this chick is a bitch
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #66 on: 15 Sep 2007, 23:54 »

Ayn Rand's political philosophy comes out of an insane overreaction to the policies of the USSR.
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Re: Ayn Rand
« Reply #67 on: 16 Sep 2007, 17:32 »

Rand herself has addressed this by stating "if it was rape, it was rape by engraved invitation."

Well, I guess Ms. Rand is just too smart for me.
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