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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #100 on: 19 Nov 2007, 17:20 »

yea talking heads are pop music, ive never heard of challenging pop music
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« Reply #101 on: 20 Nov 2007, 03:36 »

The entire Abruptum discography.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #102 on: 24 Nov 2007, 09:27 »

THE TALKING HEADS?!  THE FUCKING BEATLES?!

Try "getting into" Wolf Eyes.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #103 on: 24 Nov 2007, 11:50 »

Where have you been? I missed posts like that. They tell it like it is.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #104 on: 24 Nov 2007, 11:57 »

My band was on tour.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #105 on: 24 Nov 2007, 12:38 »

THE TALKING HEADS?!  THE FUCKING BEATLES?!

Try "getting into" Wolf Eyes.


Wolf Eyes are really accessible! It's like noise but with rock structuring. Hell, people dance to Wolf Eyes. The Beatles though, I just never understood what it is that makes them this genius thing people talk about. But Wolf Eyes are easy to make sense of.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #106 on: 24 Nov 2007, 12:54 »

Wolf Eyes are easily understood if you've ever encountered anything like them before.  When I play them for people whose tastes don't extend much past Devendra Banhart in the "weird" direction, they usually recoil in horror and, occassionally, begin sobbing.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #107 on: 24 Nov 2007, 13:07 »

OK, admittedly I am the kind of person who potters about humming Scissor Girls songs. But still, for me The Beatles are still far more inaccessible.

I wish I'd ever made somebody sob by playing them music. It would be rather satisfying.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #108 on: 24 Nov 2007, 13:41 »

Apparently even the heaviest noise fans found the latest Lietterschpich album terrifying.
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« Reply #109 on: 24 Nov 2007, 14:15 »

I wish I'd ever made somebody sob by playing them music. It would be rather satisfying.

One time a girlfriend and I were on mushrooms and I played Flying Saucer Attack's New Lands and she said it was the most depressing, machinelike music ever.

I thought it was soothing.   :-(
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« Reply #110 on: 24 Nov 2007, 15:10 »

Making people cry by hearing music is actually rather easy if you know how to do it.

Step 1:  Find a "Tastee Brothers" album
Step 2:  Find any musician (preferably brass or woodwind)
Step 3:  Play "Tastee Brothers" album
Step 4:  Commence weeping.


I feel extremely sorry for those trumpets
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #111 on: 24 Nov 2007, 15:26 »

Making someone cry with music is even easier than that:

Step 1: Find a 16 year old girl who reads Sylvia Plath.
Step 2: Play her the Bright Eyes Every Day and Every Night EP.
Step 3: Profit.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #112 on: 24 Nov 2007, 17:55 »

OK, admittedly I am the kind of person who potters about humming Scissor Girls songs. But still, for me The Beatles are still far more inaccessible.

I wish I'd ever made somebody sob by playing them music. It would be rather satisfying.

I've managed that a few times. I also once managed to make some children nauseated while doing sound engineering work. Is that the same thing?
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #113 on: 24 Nov 2007, 17:57 »

No. It may actually be better though.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #114 on: 26 Nov 2007, 05:39 »

I've yet to find the 'brown note' though.

As for inaccessible albums, how about The Final Cut by Pink Floyd? I mean I adore that record, but it's essentially the Roger Waters autobiography written for Roger Waters. Even HE thinks it's shit.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #115 on: 26 Nov 2007, 09:47 »

I'd reckon that a lot of people, even those who had heard The Velvet Underground and Nico, would hear White Light/White Heat and tihnk it was a badly-recorded garage rock mess.

Which, actually, it is, and probably why I like it.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #116 on: 27 Nov 2007, 01:28 »

The only album that's ever scared me was English Heretic - 2006 Annual, specifically the last track, 'Enter the Mithraic Stargate', which is basically dark ambience mixed with field recordings of an esoteric thelemite ritual. High school satanism, this shit ain't. I had to turn it off halfway through the first time I heard it, go outside, smoke like, four cigarettes, then come back in and listen to it again. I felt like exorcising my speaker system afterwards.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #117 on: 27 Nov 2007, 13:33 »

Third Eye Foundation's Ghost creeps me out to this day.  As does Semtex, but I got it years after Ghost so I already knew what to expect.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #118 on: 27 Nov 2007, 16:29 »

They Might Be Giants for anyone who doesn't like weird music.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #119 on: 27 Nov 2007, 16:36 »

I would argue that only the first two TMBG albums are "weird", and even those aren't any "weirder" than Devo, Talking Heads, B-52s, or a thousand other 70s-80s Geek Wave bands.

Actually, there are a lot of tracks on TMBG's first two that are very accessible, meaning that they are very pop-centric and catchy.  "Don't Let's Start" and "Ana Ng" are usually enjoyed even by people who dislike the band.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #120 on: 27 Nov 2007, 17:21 »

Hey, I like that song Ana NG, and I don't listen to TMBG. What a song.
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« Reply #121 on: 27 Nov 2007, 19:47 »

The only album that's ever scared me was English Heretic - 2006 Annual, specifically the last track, 'Enter the Mithraic Stargate', which is basically dark ambience mixed with field recordings of an esoteric thelemite ritual. High school satanism, this shit ain't. I had to turn it off halfway through the first time I heard it, go outside, smoke like, four cigarettes, then come back in and listen to it again. I felt like exorcising my speaker system afterwards.

Can you upload this? As a person who is very interested in the whole golden dawn/thelemite/etc. lodges, this would be really interesting.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #122 on: 27 Nov 2007, 21:37 »

I honestly don't know how anyone can listen to Melt-Banana. I know people do, but I just don't understand why.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #123 on: 27 Nov 2007, 22:52 »

Have you seen Melt-Banana live?  It explains their appeal much better than their albums do.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #124 on: 27 Nov 2007, 22:54 »

The record that took me the longest getting into was most likely Oh God The Aftermath, by Norma Jean. Before I found that thing I had only listened to The Keeper, Korn, Lamb of God, and other lame-ass metal bands. Listening to Norma Jean after that is like running into a brick wall, having your balls given back (cause anyone who actually likes ANY of those bands has none) and then finding out you like it. Seriously, anyone who hasn't listened to Norma Jean, do so. You will find meaning to metalcore.

Once I actually developed a musical taste I think the hardest to get into was Cartel's Chroma. A very good album, but so poppy it makes you sick at first.

And has anyone listened to Dance Gavin Dance?
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #125 on: 27 Nov 2007, 23:02 »

I found Beast Moans to be fairly inaccessible. I mean, I love most of the artists that comprise the group, but when they all came together, it appeared to me like their different styles clashed, rather than blended, together.
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« Reply #126 on: 27 Nov 2007, 23:24 »

I've yet to find the 'brown note' though.

As for inaccessible albums, how about The Final Cut by Pink Floyd? I mean I adore that record, but it's essentially the Roger Waters autobiography written for Roger Waters. Even HE thinks it's shit.
Eh.  It's easily the worst album the Floyd ever made (that is, since I don't even count the post-Waters albums as true Floyd at all, though they were even worse).

Weezer's Pinkerton is pretty hard to get into.  I mean, it grows on you, but at first listen it's really weird.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #127 on: 28 Nov 2007, 00:35 »

The only album that's ever scared me was English Heretic - 2006 Annual, specifically the last track, 'Enter the Mithraic Stargate', which is basically dark ambience mixed with field recordings of an esoteric thelemite ritual. High school satanism, this shit ain't. I had to turn it off halfway through the first time I heard it, go outside, smoke like, four cigarettes, then come back in and listen to it again. I felt like exorcising my speaker system afterwards.

Can you upload this? As a person who is very interested in the whole golden dawn/thelemite/etc. lodges, this would be really interesting.
Golden Dawn/thelemite/etc aside, this sounds interesting.  Would love an upload as well.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #128 on: 05 Dec 2007, 13:53 »

Actually the music of Rite of Spring did not cause the riot.  While it was foward thinking, the audience was really upset about the flat footed, stomping dancing. This was early 20th century Paris, and tastes in ballet still ran towards delicacy and grace.   

Schoenberg and other 12 tone work is indeed really hard to get into. I still can't get into Pierrot Lunaire. Its not 12 tone, but its still atonal and the Sprechstimme is really far removed from normal vocal technique.
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« Reply #129 on: 05 Dec 2007, 14:16 »

I've yet to find the 'brown note' though.

As for inaccessible albums, how about The Final Cut by Pink Floyd? I mean I adore that record, but it's essentially the Roger Waters autobiography written for Roger Waters. Even HE thinks it's shit.
Eh.  It's easily the worst album the Floyd ever made (that is, since I don't even count the post-Waters albums as true Floyd at all, though they were even worse).

I call bullshit on that. Ignoring the post-Waters Floyd for the minute - as I love it - both More and Obscured By Clouds have some great tracks (More particularly) are far worse than Final Cut, and UmmaGumma's second disc is frankly awful. Final Cut certainly edges them out at the very least.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #130 on: 05 Dec 2007, 18:17 »

Weezer's Pinkerton is pretty hard to get into.

Are you kidding? That's one of the easiest albums to get into. It's the ultimate singalong album. Even though Weezer sucks.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #131 on: 05 Dec 2007, 18:37 »

UmmaGumma's second disc is frankly awful.

What?!  I certainly can understand why a lot of people don't like it, but it beats the shit out of - wait for it - 90% of everything Animal Collective has ever done.
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« Reply #132 on: 05 Dec 2007, 19:17 »

UmmaGumma's second disc is frankly awful.

What?!  I certainly can understand why a lot of people don't like it, but it beats the shit out of - wait for it - 90% of everything Animal Collective has ever done.

Was the second disk the live or the studio?  I always forget...

The studio wasn't inaccessible, it was just boring crap.  Young, Conrad, Cale et al. were doing much more interesting work in that vein of 'make a shitton of racket and call it artistic' a couple years before.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #133 on: 05 Dec 2007, 20:49 »

Meh.
I've skimmed through the thread a little.

But uh.

Arab On Radar had been a band that's pretty difficult for me to get into at all.
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« Reply #134 on: 05 Dec 2007, 21:00 »

I do not get this thread, the soundtrack to More is one of the top 5 albums the floyd ever did.
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« Reply #135 on: 05 Dec 2007, 21:03 »

There is not much sense in pulling punches here, my favourite Pink Floyd albums are:

1) Meddle
2) Meddle
3)The Dub Side of The Moon
4) Ummagumma
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« Reply #136 on: 05 Dec 2007, 21:34 »

There is not much sense in pulling punches here, my favourite Pink Floyd albums are:

1) Meddle
2) Meddle
4) Ummagumma

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« Reply #137 on: 06 Dec 2007, 00:57 »

The only album that's ever scared me was English Heretic - 2006 Annual, specifically the last track, 'Enter the Mithraic Stargate', which is basically dark ambience mixed with field recordings of an esoteric thelemite ritual. High school satanism, this shit ain't. I had to turn it off halfway through the first time I heard it, go outside, smoke like, four cigarettes, then come back in and listen to it again. I felt like exorcising my speaker system afterwards.

Can you upload this? As a person who is very interested in the whole golden dawn/thelemite/etc. lodges, this would be really interesting.

Seconded.

Oh, and the most inaccessible music I've ever listened to was probably Pelt.  Those fuckers were weird.
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Re: Most Inaccessible Album of All-Time?
« Reply #138 on: 06 Dec 2007, 08:53 »

Any album by Animal Collective.
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« Reply #139 on: 06 Dec 2007, 09:06 »

UmmaGumma's second disc is frankly awful.

What?!  I certainly can understand why a lot of people don't like it, but it beats the shit out of - wait for it - 90% of everything Animal Collective has ever done.


That's like saying a punch in the nose is better than a punch in the dick. One is substantially preferable to the other, but in an ideal world neither would happen.

And the second disc is the studio disc, isn't it? Whichever disc is the studio disc, THAT one sucks, despite its occasionally hilarity. I still say 'well, that was a bit avant-garde, wasn't it?'
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« Reply #140 on: 06 Dec 2007, 12:47 »

I think he's implying that he doesn't understand why a lot of people hate Ummagumma but blow their loads over Animal Collective.
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« Reply #141 on: 09 Dec 2007, 14:10 »

I'd say Don Caballero. As for one album, maybe "For Respect" or "What Burns Never Returns". Sure, I appreciate it now, but it took me 6 months to get there.
Oh, and maybe Hella. They're in the same vein as Don Cab. Wikipedia says "Math Rock/Noise Rock/Experimental".
How about superblackdeathdoomgrindgorecore stuff? It's just terrible, but I suppose that would count as inaccessible. Think Devourment.
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« Reply #142 on: 09 Dec 2007, 15:17 »

Hella are not in the least bit back, death, or doom metal. or grindcore, for the matter. I call shenanigans.
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« Reply #143 on: 09 Dec 2007, 16:05 »

What I think he is trying to say is that extreme metal is innacessible and crap.

Judging by the popularity of it, that is probably not the case.

And guys, seriously, Pink Floyd innaccessible? I think you guys need to calm down.
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« Reply #144 on: 09 Dec 2007, 16:05 »

I've always thought of Don Caballero as kind of the easiest band of their type to get into.
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« Reply #145 on: 09 Dec 2007, 22:11 »

Actually the music of Rite of Spring did not cause the riot.  While it was foward thinking, the audience was really upset about the flat footed, stomping dancing. This was early 20th century Paris, and tastes in ballet still ran towards delicacy and grace.

Well, it was somewhat the music with the dancing.  The primativism used in writing that piece kind of goes hand in hand with the angular, hip-centered coreography.

Also the fact that it depicted, well, fertility rituals
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« Reply #146 on: 10 Dec 2007, 07:03 »

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« Reply #147 on: 10 Dec 2007, 12:29 »

What I think he is trying to say is that extreme metal is innacessible and crap.

Judging by the popularity of it, that is probably not the case.

And guys, seriously, Pink Floyd innaccessible? I think you guys need to calm down.

Just because something isn't super-fast blugeoning or sprawling fatalism doesn't mean it's polished pop music. Have you heard The Final Cut?
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« Reply #148 on: 11 Dec 2007, 19:13 »

I don't know if i read it in this form or not, but 'Whitehouse' is really fucking inaccessible

Or early 'Girl Talk'... seriously, what the fuck was he doing?
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« Reply #149 on: 11 Dec 2007, 19:44 »

The first two Underworld albums would be pretty hard to understand if one had only heard their good material.

In fact, one would probably have a hard time accepting them as being the "same band" at all.
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