Topic: Sweeney Todd (Read 34325 times)

onewheelwizzard · « **on:** 29 Oct 2007, 23:59 »

OK, so it's the new Johnny Depp movie and it looks like it'll be pretty awesome.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, the story of the real Sweeney Todd is FUCKING CRAZY. It is precisely the movie Tim Burton totally wanted to make instead of ... the movie he's making about it instead (which, as far as I can see from the previews, seems to make him almost a sympathetic character).

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/todd/index_1.html

Katherine · « **Reply #1 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 06:48 »

I'm still not sold on the musical aspect of the movie but I will be going to see it regardless. The blood and slashings should more than make up for it.

Liz · « **Reply #2 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 07:10 »

I am ridiculously excited for this. I have always wanted to see it on stage, but I guess a movie isn't half bad. And it has Johnny Depp! Therefore hey can't go wrong.

ThePQ4 · « **Reply #3 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 07:31 »

Quote from: onewheelwizzard on 29 Oct 2007, 23:59

OK, so it's the new Johnny Depp movie and it looks like it'll be pretty awesome.

Uh, hello...it's also an ALAN RICKMAN MOVIE!!!!
Johnny Depp and Alan Rickman on the same screen...omfg, I will have a heartattack when I see this movie. (And I am SO excited to see this! I've always wanted to see a stage production of it, but sadly, my area isn't very err...Sweeny Toddish I guess, since I've never seen/heard of one being put on. Maybe this movie will change that though!).

StaedlerMars · « **Reply #4 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 07:33 »

The stage version was crazy good.

Why is johnny depp in every single good movie ever?

ThePQ4 · « **Reply #5 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 07:36 »

Because Johnny Depp is one of the best actors -ever-. Seriously, he's so totally diverse and can do almost anything necessary to make a role totally unique. No one will ever top his abilities. Like, ever.

Lines · « **Reply #6 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 07:52 »

Yeah, he's just one of those actors that can, well, actually act. He has the ability to get into every character, which is why he's so awesome.

I really hope they don't lose the OMFG dude CRAZY aspect, but I for one plan on seeing it. Tim Burton, Johnny Depp, and Alan Rickman are too good to pass up, as all three are some of my favorites.

Liz · « **Reply #7 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 08:26 »

I don't think the OMFG could be lost with Tim Burton directing. If anything he's going to play that thing up more than ever.

leave for no raisin · « **Reply #8 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 09:10 »

I generally hate musicals or anything resembling one, but I will see anything Tim Burton has anything to do with (yes, even Frankenweiner!). The fact that Johnny Deep and Alan Rickman are also in it just makes it extra freakin' awesome. I can't wait.

ThePQ4 · « **Reply #9 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 09:32 »

Ahhh...don't avoid musicals!! They are an American Standard of Entertainment and rightly so!!
(Mind you, I grew up on musicals, sooo...I'm biased)
Johnny Depp-Alan Rickman-Tim Burton is like an unstoppable triangle of pure awesome. Like...it's totally off the Awesome Scale. Now, if only they had some Bowie in there...fuckin' mind blowing.

Wow, I am way into this Sweeny Todd excitement thing.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #10 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 10:01 »

This should be pretty darn good. The stage production is excellent and I'm not so worried about the film retaining the musical aspect of the play- the music is all quite good after all. Johnny Depp is an excellent actor and Tim Burton is terrific at creating dark atmospheres so he's a very good choice for director. I definitely excited for this one.

leave for no raisin · « **Reply #11 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 13:35 »

Apparently Sacha Baron Cohen (Ali G, Borat) is in the movie, too. Odd.

StaedlerMars · « **Reply #12 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 14:50 »

The movie just became twice as awesome as it was already promising to be.

Scandanavian War Machine · « **Reply #13 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 15:03 »

I didn't even know about this until a couple days ago some little kid at the skatepark told me about it. I didn't even know kids knew what Sweeney Todd was but apparently I was mistaken.

Well, I'm looking forward to it. It should be a good time.

Lines · « **Reply #14 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 15:14 »

Quote from: leave for no raisin on 30 Oct 2007, 13:35

Apparently Sacha Baron Cohen (Ali G, Borat) is in the movie, too. Odd.

Dammit, I hate that guy. He's ruining the trio of awesome. Guh.

ampersandwitch · « **Reply #15 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 19:54 »

Why are you people forgetting about the lovely Helena Bonham Carter.
She was Marla Singer once.
Respect.

leave for no raisin · « **Reply #16 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 20:17 »

Quote from: Linds on 30 Oct 2007, 15:14

Quote from: leave for no raisin on 30 Oct 2007, 13:35
Apparently Sacha Baron Cohen (Ali G, Borat) is in the movie, too. Odd.

Dammit, I hate that guy. He's ruining the trio of awesome. Guh.

Yeah. I keep imagining Borat wandering around randomly in the movie going, "HIGH FIVE!"

I have never seen that guy out of character.

Liz · « **Reply #17 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 20:42 »

He is pretty ridiculously good looking without the Borat get-up.

Ishotdanieljohnston · « **Reply #18 on:** 30 Oct 2007, 23:09 »

Tis looks really damn fine. I'm pretty much only living for the 2009 release of the rum diary, BRUCE FUCKING ROBINSON'S (withnail and i!) adaptation of Hunter S. Thompson's classic first novel starring Johnny Depp. That's just ridiculously good.

Lines · « **Reply #19 on:** 31 Oct 2007, 08:39 »

Quote from: ampersandwitch on 30 Oct 2007, 19:54

Why are you people forgetting about the lovely Helena Bonham Carter.
She was Marla Singer once.
Respect.

Ok, change "trio of awesome" to "power quartet of amazing". But I still don't like Cohen.

StaedlerMars · « **Reply #20 on:** 31 Oct 2007, 19:30 »

See, I like Cohen, he's similar to mr. bean. People don't realize how smart he really is.

The guy who plays mr. bean (i'm sure he has a name), is a genius, and so is sacha baron cohen. It's just people can't take him serious because of the roles he has played in his past.

For the record... I didn't like borat.

ampersandwitch · « **Reply #21 on:** 31 Oct 2007, 21:28 »

Mr Bean = Rowan Atkinson.
Man is fucking hilarious, but hopelessly, irredeemably British.

leave for no raisin · « **Reply #22 on:** 31 Oct 2007, 21:45 »

Quote from: StaedlerMars on 31 Oct 2007, 19:30

See, I like Cohen, he's similar to mr. bean. People don't realize how smart he really is.

The guy who plays mr. bean (i'm sure he has a name), is a genius, and so is sacha baron cohen. It's just people can't take him serious because of the roles he has played in his past.

For the record... I didn't like borat.

I've never been a big Bean fan, but I do think that Sacha Baron Cohen is intelligent. I don't like Ali G, but I thought Borat was pretty funny the first time. He apparently had to spend the night in jail a couple of times while filming Borat, and he never broke character. I'm not questioning his talent, I just think being in Sweeney Todd is a HUGE change in direction for him. I'm really interested to see how he pulls it off.

Lines · « **Reply #23 on:** 01 Nov 2007, 10:40 »

I really like Rowan Atkinson because I think he's funny with just about everything he does. There's just something about Cohen that rubs me the wrong way and I just never thought he was funny. Maybe this movie will change my opinion of him, but I think it'd just be because he made a smart move and was able to get a role in a good story with a good group of people.

Katherine · « **Reply #24 on:** 01 Nov 2007, 11:13 »

I feel the same way, Linds. People are always telling me how funny and smart Sacha Baron Cohen is, I just don't see it.

Mr. Bean on the other hand is positively hilarious.

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #25 on:** 01 Nov 2007, 11:21 »

Mr. Bean is probably the least intelligent and definately the least funny material that Rowan Atkinson has ever produced. Maybe I am just sick of it because I have watched it since I was about 8 or something but as far as "intelligent humour" goes it is not that far above stuff like Borat. Atkinson's stuff from Not the 9'o'Clock News is quite good and Blackadder and The Thin Blue Line are fantastic.

The thing I like about Sasha Baron Cohen's comedy is not so much what he says but his interactions with other people, specifically with random people on the street. Also this guy never gets out of character and it is amazing. I heard a story about how during the filming of Borat he was walking around New York with Hugh Laurie (it astounds me that some people don't know he is a British comedian) and was still in character for Borat. Long story short he ends up getting punched in the mouth by someone he started talking to. That is commitment.

StaedlerMars · « **Reply #26 on:** 01 Nov 2007, 13:53 »

Quote

The thing I like about Sasha Baron Cohen's comedy is not so much what he says but his interactions with other people, specifically with random people on the street. Also this guy never gets out of character and it is amazing. I heard a story about how during the filming of Borat he was walking around New York with Hugh Laurie (it astounds me that some people don't know he is a British comedian) and was still in character for Borat. Long story short he ends up getting punched in the mouth by someone he started talking to. That is commitment.

This is completely based on hearsay(is that how you spell that?) but I heard that he also spent a couple of days in jail and didn't get out of character for that movie.

EDIT: you're right, that was already mentioned in the thread. Sorry about that.

muteKi · « **Reply #27 on:** 01 Nov 2007, 15:29 »

^^ I think I saw that already in this topic, but I don't want to check to see if THAT post was edited.

Rowan Atkinson is funny, but I prefer Blackadder to Bean any day.

Also, the announcement of this movie SO TOTALLY makes up for the fact that the other movie musical I've heard about so far is Mamma fucking Mia, which will be available in theaters starting July 18, 2007.
And consists of the songs of ABBA.

Liz · « **Reply #28 on:** 01 Nov 2007, 16:03 »

I saw Mamma Mia while I was in New York.

Of all the goddamn musicals we could have gone to, we had to go to Mamma Mia. Stupid choir teacher didn't think to reserve tickets more than a few months in advance.

Lines · « **Reply #29 on:** 01 Nov 2007, 16:41 »

Hey now, I really liked Mamma Mia! But I kind of grew up listening to them, so I have a soft spot for ABBA. Yes, my friends routinely make fun of me for this.

Mr. Bean is only okay to other things I've seen Atkinson in. But as for staying in character, that's something Depp is known for, too. People don't see it often, but there are some actors who do that and I really respect them for it.

ThePQ4 · « **Reply #30 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 10:19 »

I was watching the trailer today, and I recalled that no one had posted one...and also that there were questions about Johnny singing...well, he does a bit in the trailer, so here you all are:

Sweeny Todd Trailer (YouTube)

Lines · « **Reply #31 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 16:23 »

AWESOME.

Ozymandias · « **Reply #32 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 16:29 »

I'd just like to chime in with the fact that I love love love Helena Bonham Carter and I don't care what that says about me because I'm so happy that Tim Burton puts her in all of his movies now.

Johnny Depp + Helena Bonham Carter + Alan Rickman = I will fucking watch this movie so hard.

Narr · « **Reply #33 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 17:08 »

My sister-in-law is the lead female role for a performing arts group around here that is doing this play. It's super awesome from what I'm told.

Movie should be crazyawesome.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #34 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 19:03 »

The clever thing about Mr. Bean is that very few people realise it's actually a long, televised mime performance. He has an amazingly mobile face, though the funniest stuff I've seen in that regard is all very old material, Secret Policeman's Ball and so forth. I seriously thought I had got over the stage of laughing from a man simply saying 'Orifice' when I was about ten, but no. The thing that probably marks Atkinson out as a good comedian is that he is capable of playing both very intelligent, cynical people and utterly naive idiots. Black Adder is a good example of this. Watch the first series some time. Probably best to buy it on DVD, as it almost never gets repeated: originally, the characters of Baldrick and Edmund are essentially the reverse of the other three series. He originally DID have cunning plans.

Dimmukane · « **Reply #35 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 19:32 »

Bean vs. Borat aside, my interest in Tim Burton movies is slowly fading. From what I've seen, Depp uses the same tone of voice as he did for Sparrow, there's snow everywhere, it seems almost formulaic. I'm not saying the movie will be bad, but it just seems to me (read: my OPINION) that everything I've seen from Burton since PeeWee's Big Movie all kind of gel into the same basic plot and character types.

KTkat · « **Reply #36 on:** 15 Nov 2007, 09:07 »

I thought his voice sounded like Sparrow's too! Though...that's just one tiny trailer clip, so who knows.

I'm excited for this movie, but also prepared to be disappointed- I saw the revival in 2006 with Cerveris and LuPone, so I guess I'll end up erring on the side of "Broadway snob" when I judge it.

Cartilage Head · « **Reply #37 on:** 16 Nov 2007, 09:39 »

Tim Burton hasn't made a good movie since Big Fish. Johnny Depp- not since Blow (though I was almost sold on The Libertine.)

Felix_ · « **Reply #38 on:** 18 Nov 2007, 21:58 »

Quote from: JimmytheSquid on 01 Nov 2007, 11:21

Blackadder and The Thin Blue Line are fantastic.

Well said.

ThePQ4 · « **Reply #39 on:** 20 Nov 2007, 09:41 »

Above post disregarded --I don't know what all of you are complaining about. Granted, Corpse Bride was a bit of let down (needed more music, in my opinion), I have no problem with the stuff the Burton and Depp have been putting out over the last couple of years... Blasphemers, all of you.

Anyway, i joined the Offical Sweeny Todd MySpace thingy, and got this video I thought some of you may like. I apologize if you have to be logged into see it. I hate that. It might be on YouTube too, but i haven't looked yet. Depp talks about being in the studio/singing, and we get a longer bit of a song. I like the way he sounds!!

http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=22328992

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #40 on:** 20 Nov 2007, 11:04 »

I agree, I found Corpse Bride to be tremendously unimpressive. Visually, it was very cool in the beginning (the scenes in the town and the mansion, for example) but the undead city/characters marked a departure from that. The songs, plot, characters and animation can't hold a candle to Nightmare Before Christmas. I was pretty disappointed overall with the movie. That being said, Ed Wood is brilliant, Nightmare Before Christmas is great and Edward Scissorhands was a very good movie as well. Burton has talent, he's just hit-or-miss (Planet of the Apes and Big Fish both missed the mark, although neither as badly as Corpse Bride did). Here's hoping Sweeney Todd will fall into the hits.

Katherine · « **Reply #41 on:** 20 Nov 2007, 11:25 »

Nightmare Before Christmas is my favorite movie ever made (and its freaking fantastic in Digital 3D). Corpse Bride was a bitter disappointment, but at least it wasn't Nightmare Before Christmas 2.

Lines · « **Reply #42 on:** 20 Nov 2007, 14:11 »

Quote from: TheFuriousWombat on 20 Nov 2007, 11:04

Burton has talent, he's just hit-or-miss (Planet of the Apes and Big Fish both missed the mark, although neither as badly as Corpse Bride did).

I actually really liked Big Fish. It was a bit different than his previous films, but I don't see why it was sub par. Planet of the Apes and Corpse Bride, on the other hand, were pretty awful. (Both of them I had to force myself to finish.) Hopefully Sweeney Todd will be more along the lines of his earlier films (Beetle Juice, Nightmare, Scissorhands, etc).

Dimmukane · « **Reply #43 on:** 20 Nov 2007, 17:55 »

It's just that with a lot of his movies, they feel longer than they really are, which is generally not a good sign for me. I thought Big Fish was probably the closest in recent memory in terms of perceived and actual length.

De_El · « **Reply #44 on:** 25 Nov 2007, 14:02 »

It's true, simple because it has Alan Rickman, Johnny Depp and Helena Bonham Carter, and was directed by Tim Burton, I'm going to see it, but...I am wary. The trailer doesn't really sway me one way or the other because it's pretty much what I expected. I want it to be good, but I'm not sure if I'm really sold. Ah well. Until December.

StaedlerMars · « **Reply #45 on:** 26 Nov 2007, 08:22 »

Wanting a movie to be good has lead to several disappointments for me.

Remember Smokin' Aces? That trailer made the movie look amazing. But it wasn't.

But you're right, I want this movie to be good. Because the play was good, and all those fabulous people are involved in it.

PatentAbsurdity · « **Reply #46 on:** 28 Nov 2007, 13:22 »

I saw the first half of Sweeney Todd. It was a taping of the stage version. The first half is excellent. My roommate, who got to see the entire thing on stage in person for her music class, assures me that the rest is equally brilliant.
There is a song about meat pies . . . we were literally rolling about the classroom floor.

The story is deliciously disturbing. I expect Depp to prove to be excellent casting, and I am ridiculously pleased that they will be retaining the musical numbers.
And I think Cohen is actually a perfect choice for the character he has to play. He really reminds me of the dude who played that part in the stage version.

Ocarina654 · « **Reply #47 on:** 29 Nov 2007, 16:01 »

To me this just seems to be another wave on the pop-culture phenomenon that has become Johnny Depp and Tim Burton worship. It all seemed to start when this whole "faux-goth" (offshoot of emo) thing started to get big these last few years.
The Nightmare Before Christmas re-emmerged as a popular film because of this movement, and Tim Burton is seen as a dark, and therefore appealing, director to this specific demographic.
And of course, with Depp as Sparrow in PotC, his popularity soars because they are good movies, and he does give a good performance, but everything gets blown out of proportion because "OMG JOHNNY DEPP IS HAWT" and he played a "dark" character in Edward Scissorhands, which, surprise, surprise, has some new popularity and merchandise just like TNBC.

Corpse Bride was, I thought, the culmination of this trend, namely, a Tim Burton/Johnny Depp movie, made to ride this wave even more because it featured the same stop-motion claymation that TNBC did.

Sweeny Todd appears to just be a continuation of this.
Tim Burton + Johnny Depp + Dark/Disturbed Character = Whinny faux-goth teens flock to the theaters in droves and add said character to the pop-culture hall-of-fame although its really not that great of a movie.

I don't think I really articulated this great, but oh well.

By the way, I'm not saying Tim Burton and Jonny Depp aren't talented, nor am I saying I don't enjoy their work. But, from what I've seen (Namely, those four years I spent in High School and all the time I spend online) they're way Overrated.
This thread doesn't help that imagine.

All that said, I didn't know Sweeny Todd was a play before a movie, and with that knowledge I know realize that this may actually have something going for it. Maybe not, but maybe.
Plus I love Alan Rickman.
Going to see the movie? Likely yes.

Cartilage Head · « **Reply #48 on:** 02 Dec 2007, 15:08 »

Still, there is big difference between a stage musical with professional stage performers and singers, and a movie with Johnny Depp, who is merely a decent singer. Also there will be edits to the songs. No to that.

LizziL · « **Reply #49 on:** 03 Dec 2007, 21:03 »

I'm a sucker for a good musical, which I hope this will be.
Alan Rickman just adds to my excitement.
I can't wait to see this.

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