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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #500 on: 07 Feb 2008, 21:39 »

I understand the idea about using what you have, which is why I like the idea of firearms and a baseball bat. Two things I have access to without getting 15 feet from my bed. Things I can get immediately in the event of a zombie attack.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #501 on: 07 Feb 2008, 22:20 »

I've got a Colt 1911 in the cabinet in my hallway (completely legally, I might add. Also in that cabinet is a folder full of papers that say I'm allowed to own this thing). If a zombie outbreak gets going, I go oldschool on their asses.

PS: I'm totally making a Google Earth escape plan right now.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #502 on: 07 Feb 2008, 23:38 »

Guys, fucking seriously. Have you ever seen a guy being beaten with a baseball bat? I have. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KILL THE ZOMBIES FAST ENOUGH. Hell, just a sturdy stick will serve you better than a baseball bat.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #503 on: 08 Feb 2008, 00:49 »

Google Earth is a great idea.

So here's my plan (and you can find all the essential elements on Google Earth!).

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I'm very close to a perfect anti-zombie fort.  It is at the following coordinates:
S University Ave @39.943920, -75.196580 (Philadelphia PA).

Doing a Google Earth search of that location will actually give you a picture of the structure.  It's an oval steel wall 40 feet tall and vertically corrugated, making it utterly unclimbable.  On the inside there's a sizable air-conditioning plant (read: near-infinite water supply) as well as an open area large enough to land a helicopter in.  It's absolutely secure if the doors are locked, and it's right next to and allows access to an elevated freight track (which I would expect to be a good way to get around a zombie-infested city, considering that there's hardly ever anything alive up there to begin with) that furthermore allows access across the river into the downtown area as well as into the suburbs.

The best part is that it's a 5 minute run or 2 minute bike ride from where I live (3914 Spruce St, 5 blocks away) and very few people know it exists, despite driving past it on a daily basis.  In other words, within 15 minutes of hearing about zombies, I am secure.  Not necessarily armed, or with enough food to last more than a week or two, but at least secure and hydrated for a few days without worry.

I feel like that's as good a start as I can hope for, considering the fact that I live in a city and my transportation is limited to a bike.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #504 on: 08 Feb 2008, 01:58 »

Cool, something I actually know something about. I haven't read the entire thread, but I'm guessing its mostly people outlining their plans. So here's mine.

Short Term: Gather available & mobile family (sorry grandma), load into truck, and proceed to an associates' house (approx 4 mi down 1 road). He's well stocked for the short term (approx 2 weeks) and lives in an easily defensible cul-de-sac with LEOs and former military. Once in position, I'll cover the exposed rear of the house from the second-story window, overlooking the backyard and empty lot. He and his wife will cover the front of the home.

Long Term: One of my associates' neighbors has a vehicle suitable for transporting 20-30 persons safely from our location to suitable property in the NW United States. Long-term survival in my current location is unfeasible without undue risk.

Weapons include semiautomatic rifles, pistols, and explosive devices. Bladed and blunt impact weapons are not believed to be effective counter-zombie devices, seeing as how the most likely method of infection occurs with close contact, or contact with contaminated biological matter, a standoff of 5-10 meters is preferred.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #505 on: 08 Feb 2008, 02:37 »

Either find a place with a large circular pit around it encompassing plenty of land (You could drain a moat around a castle) or dig your own, making sure there is a drawbridge so as you and your already appropriated lorry can go on food runs to the nearest town/city. Once there are to  many zombies in the pit that they are drawing close to the rim, set fire to them or mash them to pieces. Zombies would make excellent fertilizer for growing your crops.

 Or find a sparsely populated island to set up home and either make friends with someone that can fly a helicopter/learn to fly the helicopter yourself, or get a boat. Eventually fuel would become an issue but by that time you would have been established on the island long enough that you would have built up considerable supplies and started growing crops and even farming your own meat. A zombiepoccalipse would eventually just end up in people having to move back to what things would have been like before the technological revolution and being a quick learner would probably be one of the most sought after skills. I agree that an axe probably would be the best sort of weapon, but the only times you would need it would be when you are leaving your vehicle to re-fuel on the way to your island, pit encircled community so it would not need to be used a hell of a lot anyway.

Basically reading The Day of the Triffids and taking notes would be a good start as Triffids are basically bad ass zombies with the ability to reproduce.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #506 on: 08 Feb 2008, 03:00 »

If that's your plan, you should probably read the rest of the thread.
OK, I got as far as Lye Moats and Sentry Turrets, I just can't do it. .22/5.56 rounds do not 'tumble' in flesh and your average flea market sword will snap quicker than an aluminum bat on a kid's back.

So what do you think is wrong with my plan? Is it the fact that I'm using firearms, the fact that I'm using transportation, or the fact that I have a group of fellow former military folks to work with? This is what we came up with, if you've got an improvement, I'd really love to hear it.

Also, in my case "zombie attack" can also be read as "natural disaster" or "civil unrest", which are much more likely to occur, I think.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #507 on: 08 Feb 2008, 03:01 »

The reason he told you to read the thread is because "what is wrong with your plan" has just been beaten to death across the last five pages.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #508 on: 08 Feb 2008, 03:22 »

The reason he told you to read the thread is because "what is wrong with your plan" has just been beaten to death across the last five pages.
Well call me dense, or a noob, or whatever, but I'm not seeing it. At least, not seeing anything I can justify as an argument against my plan's outline. The bug-out opord is, of course, more detailed than my original post, but I figured the basic outline would get the idea across.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #509 on: 08 Feb 2008, 04:02 »

Also no need to quote the post right above you.

I believe the synopsis is: avoid the zombies at all costs. You can assume that the noise from the gunshot(s) would attract other zombies. You can also assume that unless you are going up in flames in a spectacular death scene, what time you would use to be shooting should be using to get the fuck away from them. You can safely assume that if you are far enough away to need a ranged shot you should just outrun them. Guns can be used to defend some sort of base, but bases can be compromised and/or become prisons if they are eventually surrounded. Etc etc etc.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #510 on: 08 Feb 2008, 04:44 »

There's also the 'ammunition' thing.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #511 on: 08 Feb 2008, 06:31 »

New dude, off the topic of the thread: being condescending in your first few posts is not the way to win friends anywhere, much less this place.

Secondly, your zombie plan is shit.

You're coming off as trying too hard to take it as a military operation. It isn't. The hypothetical zombie scenario is not against free thinking, intelligent creatures. You're overthinking it and that leads to death. Ever notice how it's almost always the military guys and police officers who get killed off first in a zombie movie? That's cause they're trained in combat against humans and you seem to be rather overconfident.

Your plan sounds suitable for holding off human targets, not zombies. Firing off rounds is only going to attract more and more zombies and you're going to have to sleep sometime, they don't. I figure if your planned initial destination were inaccessible from the ground floor, you would have pointed that out. Within a couple days of shooting stragglers, you're going to have dozens of the fuckers bearing down on you. Sure, you'll pick off a couple here and there, but once a couple slip through, they're going to get in and devour your entire group. For that matter, are you considering an exact amount of people you're bringing compared to that two weeks' worth of food? Unless this dude's living in a bomb shelter, that two weeks' worth of food becomes increasingly less likely to sustain any sizable group for two weeks. Especially considering you're talking about a vehicle capable of holding 20-30 people. Unless the guy's living in a mansion, you're not going to be able to maintain that many people. You should never, in any circumstance, deal with a situation like that with any more than a dozen people. Tensions will run high and problems will arise.

The next big problem, and probably the biggest, is the transport. It's hard enough to manuever a sedan through blocked highways, you are not getting something big enough to carry that many people down a blocked highway, especially heading for the Northwest US. Secondly, did you even consider fuel? Unless you are intimately familiar with the entire route and all possible detours you may have to make in order to get around blocked roads, you are absolutely fucked on that. Do you really like the idea of running out of gas halfway through the Nevada desert with 20+ people to take care of? This leads me to my last point as to what's wrong here: supplies. If you get stranded or run out of gas, you are fucked for supplies. Even with the world's absolute greatest luck, it's still going to probably take you close to a week to get up there. Can you carry enough supplies to last your entire group that way? What if you hit one of the myriad snags that would come up? Is your dwindling supply going to hold out? Do you have ample supplies for when you arrive at your destination?

The last part of your post is where it really falls apart. Seriously, read the fucking thread, man. Explosives? What in the fuck are you going to use explosives for? Maybe occasionally clearing wreckage, but that's a pretty rotten idea. Explosives aren't going to do shit against a zombie, you need to destroy the head. You shouldn't BE engaging them unless they're getting close to begin with, which is why a close quarters weapon is always going to be the optimal choice over a firearm. They don't make noise, they're usually lighter and they serve multiple uses (Such as a crowbar or hatchet). You're not supposed to be fucking Rambo. You're not going to survive if you try to off every zombie you encounter, you should be running.

To summarize: your zombie plan is shit, read the thread or the Zombie Survival Guide.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #512 on: 08 Feb 2008, 06:56 »

Do you think a sports store attendant will ask me to leave if I ask them to explain to me how good a baseball bat or cricket bat is as a weapon?
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #513 on: 08 Feb 2008, 07:20 »

Depends on whether they are a believer in your cause or not.

Hmm, I'd have to go to Los Angeles harbor or Marina Del Rey or something to steal a boat. No way am I going to try and find shelter in Los Angeles. Otherwise I'm flying to Philadelphia and associated bunker. I'll bring twinkies. Lots of them.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #514 on: 08 Feb 2008, 07:40 »

How do you propose surviving on a boat? How do you plan on getting a plane to Philadelphia, are you a pilot?

For that matter, why would you go from one overrun city to another? That doesn't even make sense. If there's a bunker there, it'll either be overrun or full of survivors before you even get there.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #515 on: 08 Feb 2008, 07:49 »

Actually, i do have my pilots license. So that is theoretically possible. I have not taken into account the location of the original breakout, so if it happened here first, I might get to philly in time. If it happened say, there, my plan would be up a creek without a paddle. I think I may just go to my office and destroy the stairs. (yes I've already figured out how). After raiding the ralphs across the street of course.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #516 on: 08 Feb 2008, 07:59 »

I've become pretty convinced that if your plan is going to involve a lot of ground travel you're best off doing it by yourself with a light truck with some modest offroading ability while offering enough storage for supplies and extra fuel or a small car or stationwagon with great fuel efficiency--the big thing to remember though is you're going for effective range, not necessarily raw fuel efficiency, since your goal is to be able to carry enough fuel to avoid getting stranded in the event of a setback, not save pennies. It's pretty important not to be afraid of cars with small engines either, since the most common complaint about such vehicles is that they're nimble but have "sluggish engines and passing." Which, of course doesn't mean shit because you'll be driving conservatively for maximum fuel effiency and safety. The world's fastest sprinters can't hit 30 mph for even brief periods, so it's not like you need a bad ass road machine to outrun a freakin' zombie. I think it really needs to be sressed though that the traveling plan is pretty damn terrible if you don't know what you're doing, and even then there's some obvious risks. Basically, if you've never changed a tire and you'd never heard about fuel stabilizers until reading this sentence, the post-zompocalypse nomad plan definitely isn't for you.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #517 on: 08 Feb 2008, 09:08 »

Guys, fucking seriously. Have you ever seen a guy being beaten with a baseball bat? I have.

1) Aluminum or wood?

2) Also, whoever you saw being beaten with the bat wasn't a decomposing creature from beyond the grave.

A bat is better than no weapon. At the very least you can knock them away and make an escape route for yourself. That's what's important.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #518 on: 08 Feb 2008, 09:26 »

Guys, fucking seriously. Have you ever seen a guy being beaten with a baseball bat? I have. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KILL THE ZOMBIES FAST ENOUGH. Hell, just a sturdy stick will serve you better than a baseball bat.

They actually tested this very thing on that discovery channel show "Smash Lab" not too long ago. They were trying to find out whether a hockey stick or a baseball bat did more damage when hitting a human face. The sturdy stick did 250 times less damage than the bat. Like I an others have already mentioned, we like bats because we already have them. Not everyone has bladed pole arms or axes laying around their apartment/house.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #519 on: 08 Feb 2008, 09:35 »

The aluminum versus wooden thing is a big part of it.

As someone who routinely plays baseball and softball when I get the chance, I would much rather be hit with an aluminum bat than a wooden bat. There's a reason the MLB uses wooden bats: they're heavier and have a stronger impact. Sure, they're more likely to crack, but a wooden bat, while staying lightweight, will do more damage. A wooden bat may splinter, but an aluminum bat is likely to just simply cave after as much use.

When using a bat as a weapon, you wouldn't want to do a full follow through for two reasons:

1. It's going to make it more likely to splinter or break.
2. You're going to throw yourself off balance, possibly tripping or losing control of the bat.

It really should be thought of in terms of playing baseball, which is what the bat is for in the first place. The guys you see breaking bats are the big power hitters and guys who rake home runs. That's because they're putting all their force behind it and the impact is a strain on the bat. Meanwhile, contact hitters don't often get a crack unless they catch a really fast pitch. It's still enough force to send the ball flying a good 150+ feet into the outfield. While a zombie's head is a lot heavier and more durable than a baseball, it's also not traveling at you at 75-95 MPH when you impact. I myself tend to be a contact hitter as I only weigh a little under 160 pounds. I used the same wooden bat for about six years before it splintered and even then, it merely cracked after I tried to get under a 70 MPH or so curve ball that I took on the inside part of the bat. From that, I ended up finally outright breaking it a few weeks later when I tested the durability against a pine tree (Took close to a dozen cuts before it broke).

Using only enough force to knock down and temporarily immobilize a zombie, that bat isn't going to break any time soon. The force of impact, though, is going to clear a path for you, at least. You're not trying to knock their head off, just hit them hard enough to knock them away from you. That won't be sufficient force to break the bat.

Also, the big reason the bat outlasted the hockey stick is because a bat is much thicker and more stout. The impact area is a lot thicker where there's no real specific damaging spot on a hockey stick. If someone hits you in the knee with one, it'll do major damage, but a hockey stick's liable to crack in half over someone's back, where a wooden bat would not.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #520 on: 08 Feb 2008, 10:19 »

Also bats are relatively easy to find in most places I would imagine so even if yours does break you can grab another one without too much hassle. Although I suppose the same can be said for axes.

Personally I'll be holing up in the billiard room with a lead pipe.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #521 on: 08 Feb 2008, 10:24 »

Y'know, there's been a lot of talk about weapons, but have people discussed basic survival gear? I mean, certain things are obvious (eg. water containers) but other things are a little less obvious.

I was imagining coming across a store or something that I want to scrounge in, and I would definitely want to spend a while observing it from a distance, and for that I'd need binoculars.

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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #522 on: 08 Feb 2008, 10:48 »

FAIL PROOF PLAN IN CASE OF ZOMBIES

1) hang around for a while and watch shit hit the fan just for fun

2) kill myself
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #523 on: 08 Feb 2008, 10:55 »

I hope the zombocolypse happens while I'm at work at the clinic and I can immediately begin looting medical supplies, then run away before people just beginning to feel the effects of zombie bites come in for treatment. I imagine that any sort of clinic/hospital would be an insane bloodbath once all the freshly bitten patients turned into full fledged living dead.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #524 on: 08 Feb 2008, 11:21 »

.22/5.56 rounds do not 'tumble' in flesh
And that would be how I know you don't know what you are talking about. Almost all FMJs will tumble when they hit flesh, the .45 is the one exception I know off the top of my head. JHPs don't do so as often, but they make a big hole anyway, due to the expansion.

Obsession, I object to the idea that you are a nutjob if you carry a gun or have one near you, in most states in the US, it is possible to get a license to carry a weapon concealed, and people with carry licenses actually have a lot lower crime rate than people without.

Khar, no I have not seen someone getting beaten with a bat, but I have seen skinny kids send baseballs flying 200+ feet with an aluminum bat, and I doubt I would appreciate having that happen to me.

Anyone know how durable bamboo is relative to standard bat woods? I have a bamboo bat, it is lighter than average wood, and is a dream to use. Though I suppose it would be a nightmare should I have to be using it on zombies.

I think that this debate would be much easier if this forum weren't so international, I always forget how many people live in places where it is almost impossible to get guns here, so I wonder what they are talking about when they say that they couldn't get one.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #525 on: 08 Feb 2008, 11:32 »

Well, I have the enviroment on my side. Surrounded by 3/4 valleys with about 40 people in each, and 4 local villages with about 200-400 each, within 5 or so miles. Of course, it would be tricky to obtain enough food, but I will think on that one. Water is no problem, IMO- our water comes from a spring water source. We have enough raw materials to turn our house into a fort, but if we thought that was too much of a risk we could travel at least 15 miles in any direction without encountering any human/zombie life. I think the main thing on my side is the fact that due to the low level of human activity around where I live, we would have at least a week or so before a zombie stumbled our way.

What are you guys doing in the long term? Like, where are you staying, sleeping, eating?
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #526 on: 08 Feb 2008, 12:15 »

I think that this debate would be much easier if this forum weren't so international, I always forget how many people live in places where it is almost impossible to get guns here, so I wonder what they are talking about when they say that they couldn't get one.

You and me both. I live in a state where the first day of Buck season is a holiday. Thats right kids, public schools are let out so people with firearms can shoot animals. As this is the case, the general populace I would be part of in case of zombocolypse would have firearms.

bbqrocks: My parents have a cabin we would utilize, its only 7 miles from the nearest town but still enjoys the stand alone comforts of well water and heating with wood and fuel oil tanks. I would hate to be stuck in an urban center though.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #527 on: 08 Feb 2008, 12:54 »

I would prefer to avoid any place where

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As this is the case, the general populace I would be part of in case of zombocolypse would have firearms.

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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #528 on: 08 Feb 2008, 12:59 »

I was bored after my test yesterday, so I mapped the best escape routes outta town.  My plans have changed slightly for the Zombie outbreak.

Also, if I end up surrounded, and low on ammunition, I'll just do the Thriller dance.  
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #529 on: 08 Feb 2008, 16:09 »

Hell, I live in CANADA and I own a damn transport permit. Canada, where you cannot piss without a dozen documents explaining that it will not hurt other people.

Also, I don't get this business that firearms AREN'T a valid form of last-minute defense. You seem to think that the only applicable situation for firing a gun is when the enemy is beyond a range to worry about them, but that's completely false. Also, I think the bat's a damn good CQC weapon when you're on the move, because your objective ISN'T to kill the damn thing, it's to get it out of your way and move on. A bat won't get stuck, it's long enough to keep you out of bite range, and it gets the zombie the fuck outta your way.

Also, assuming that these zombies are the traditional "slow" type (ala the original Dawn of the Dead), traffic congestion shouldn't be as terrible as it would be if they were "fast" zombies (ala the remake). Remember the scenes before the opening credits to Dawn (2004) where people are fucking up on the road and blowing shit up? I don't think that would happen to as dramatic an extent if the zombies weren't in "hot" pursuit.

Anyways, my plan's still the same. Gather up the folks and head for Virginia and the Greenbrier Hotel.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #530 on: 08 Feb 2008, 19:01 »

Y'know, there's been a lot of talk about weapons, but have people discussed basic survival gear? I mean, certain things are obvious (eg. water containers) but other things are a little less obvious.

I was imagining coming across a store or something that I want to scrounge in, and I would definitely want to spend a while observing it from a distance, and for that I'd need binoculars.

-Rope. Carabiners would be handy as well, I think, even for just securing things regardless of whether you know harness knots or how to climb rocks.
-A can/tin opener for tinned food. It would probably be a good idea to have some sort of vessel like a single small pot to cook in, as well, because of the need to heat things to kill pathogens before you eat them, although if you boil everything you can just go find some skunk cabbage leaves and boil stuff in the leaves (it's true, it works!). Having a pot means you could also eat out of it, especially if you needed to make a soup if you got sick.
-Some sort of first-aid kit in a waterproof pack, with an ace bandage and some clean gauze and prepackaged alcohol wipes and bandaids/plasters. Hydrogen Peroxide would be ideal, especially if you are living outside most of the time, because a lot of the cuts and scrapes will get dirt and shit in them and the bubbles are more effective at cleaning them than alcohol. Also I guess you could do away with the medicinal alcohol if you couldn't get any or used it up if you had access to some high-content vodka or bourbon or something.
-A waterproof tarp. You cover your supplies with it during the day when you are carrying them around, and you cover your shelter with it at night or whenever you have to sleep.
-Dental floss. Having some sort of synthetic fiber, especially one as thin as this, is a good idea for repairs on fabrics and things like your tarpaulin.
-A stainless steel needle, size is irrelevant although larger would make it harder to lose. You will need this until you can figure out how to make them out of bone like the Native Americans did, or suddenly acquire metalworking skills in the middle of nowhere and can thus produce your own.
-Hatchet. You need firewood, end of story. You can also substitute a standard axe or machete, if you have one.
-Flint and steel, or some other water-resistant method of producing fire.
-A small bladed knife. Trying to do things like split twigs or twist-poke holes in blocks of wood with the corner of an axe blade or a machete is murder and you are more likely to injure yourself than succeed. Also good for standard cutting, peeling a few vegetables, cutting food, cleaning fingernails, building traps for small animals, and making small and narrow cuts in skin for things like snakebites or nasty infections.

I can't think of anything else off the top of my head right now, because obviously water containers and a pack to carry this stuff in have been mentioned and you would already have them.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #531 on: 08 Feb 2008, 19:48 »

Waterproof= win! Even if it's just mostly waterproof. I keep a couple bright orange heavy duty leaf bags folded up in the pocket of any light jacket I wear these days. Is it raining? Tear a hole in that sucker and toss it over your head. Instant ghetto poncho. Lost in the boundary waters 'cuz you're a friggin' idiot like my cousin? Tear that baby into strips and you have a bright orange impromptu flag and something to sit on to help keep you from getting anymore cold and damp than your sorry ass already is. I mean, I know that last one's only tangentially zombie related, but it's seriously pretty useful even if the zompocalypse never comes and as cheap a stopgap solution as there is in this world. I mean, hell, a garbage bag is like the one thing on the planet you're practically guaranteed to find while dumpster diving, so even hobos can get one.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #532 on: 08 Feb 2008, 20:27 »

Also, if I end up surrounded, and low on ammunition, I'll just do the Thriller dance. 
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #533 on: 09 Feb 2008, 03:28 »

I think a pretty useful weapon would be a sawed down (to about 3/5 of size) empty barbell, with one small weight secured on the end. It would be light but good for smashing skulls.

And we english have cricket bats too.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #534 on: 09 Feb 2008, 06:06 »

And, as an added bonus, between zombies, you could improve your muscular physique!
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #535 on: 09 Feb 2008, 06:20 »

Y'know, there's been a lot of talk about weapons, but have people discussed basic survival gear?

Except for rations I still have all my outdoor survival gear from cadets. That means I'm set for outdoor living in weather ranging from hot to alpine, travelling up and down the country, and raiding quiet places for food. Also I think such as a common pole would be a good weapon - crack a zombie knee, put out zombie eyes and it makes it very difficult for them to follow you.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #536 on: 09 Feb 2008, 06:33 »

What about an oil rig? I'm sure if you took about 15 people and as much longlasting food as everyone could get, you could survive for a very long time.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #537 on: 09 Feb 2008, 06:48 »

What about the ISS?
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #538 on: 09 Feb 2008, 07:05 »

Well, you would get to an oil rig on a boat, then you could get away on a boat if it started to corrode and fall away. It would give you and a couple more people at least a year or two away from any zombie threats.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #539 on: 09 Feb 2008, 07:26 »

Oil rigs are usually reached by helicopter.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #540 on: 09 Feb 2008, 07:35 »

But you can reach them by boat, right?

Anyways, yes a sizable boat. Big enough for 15 people, and lots of food supplies. And you don't need to run it, just stay there.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #541 on: 09 Feb 2008, 07:41 »

If you think you can navigate a boat to a tiny structure out at sea.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #542 on: 09 Feb 2008, 08:04 »

Yes, there are lots of flaws in the idea. It was just a suggestion.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #543 on: 09 Feb 2008, 08:30 »

What about them scientific bases at the north pole? If you could get there in a boat, and to the base, I assume you would be quite safe.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #544 on: 09 Feb 2008, 08:49 »

heehee, zombie penguins.
How long do zombies last, anyways?
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #545 on: 09 Feb 2008, 09:21 »

And cold. Man, so cold.

If I was headed for a small structure or place in the middle of an ocean I'd just as soon head for an island as well as an oil rig. Better scenery, more chance that I could find food on it, And steel is cold, man.

Plus, you might be able to live on an oil rig, but not without food. You'd either have to cart it all with you or make frequent trips to shore to get it, and it would be really really hard to gather up enough for that many people.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #546 on: 09 Feb 2008, 10:52 »

Ooh, there's an airport near me - about 20 minutes away by bike.  I could maybe fly somewhere?
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #547 on: 09 Feb 2008, 11:04 »

Fucking Greenbrier, guys.

Also, the amount of gear you'd need to survive in the Antarctic is totally disproportional to the amount of safety it offers, not to mention you're FUBAR on food unless you like hunting peguins.
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #548 on: 09 Feb 2008, 11:25 »

Unless you went to one of them scientific bases, right?
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Re: plans for the inevitable undead uprising
« Reply #549 on: 09 Feb 2008, 11:32 »

Which is still easily accessible as long as your favorite local airline still makes routine trips to the Arctic during a zombie outbreak. Right? Even with this talk of civilian pilots I don't think actually getting to these mystical research bases is feasible, and outside of flying you WILL need a bunch of equipment to make the trek (assuming we're talking boats, then snowmobiles or something). There are equally remote/inaccessible locations that don't require days of crossing a harsh environment, and are much closer to food sources.
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