Topic: I, For One, Welcome Our New Guitar Overlords (Read 10469 times)

Johnny C · « **on:** 12 Nov 2007, 08:55 »

The regular edition of this guitar is due in '08. For now they've just got 10 Limited Edition guitars in the "Locate" section.

Christophe · « **Reply #1 on:** 12 Nov 2007, 09:14 »

"Guitar morphs into deadly mechanized horror, kills three and spoils secret of life for existential philosophers. News at 11."

Now if it were to achieve headlines like that, I'll listen. The Gibson Digital guitar didn't end up shaking the whole guitar industry, so why the hell should a self-tuning one do so as well? I remember at the very least one guitar modification that self-tunes the guitar (though probably not in the way Gibson does it).

I'll take my chances with my tuning pegs, thanks. Ooh, they're selling one at the Geetar Center in my hometown!

kablaaamo · « **Reply #2 on:** 12 Nov 2007, 20:35 »

The countdown clock is a bit much, haha.

rhinohelicopter · « **Reply #3 on:** 12 Nov 2007, 20:45 »

I think that all of these innovations will probably result in a very sterile sounding guitar (Like a PRS it sounds nice in the studio but sounds like shit live). I really hope that it works great and becomes the new standard for guitars but, I'm not getting my hopes up.

squawk · « **Reply #4 on:** 12 Nov 2007, 21:03 »

I don't care about the whole robot thing but I really really like that blue burst paint job. A lot.

MusicScribbles · « **Reply #5 on:** 12 Nov 2007, 22:00 »

This is the beginning of something horrible. Now I can't wait to see sentient-computer-AI's-that-destroy-humanity fiction, only with guitars. They will ruin us!

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #6 on:** 12 Nov 2007, 23:18 »

jeph · « **Reply #7 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 01:13 »

God dammit why does Gibson paint all their hi-tech guitars the same shade of horrible chromatic blue.

Also instead of a Les Paul that tunes itself, how about an SG that balances properly?

David_Dovey · « **Reply #8 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 03:09 »

Lazy fuckin guitarists.

valley_parade · « **Reply #9 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 05:31 »

But I like being out of tune, guys.

=/

Lummer · « **Reply #10 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 11:39 »

Quote from: jeph on 13 Nov 2007, 01:13

Also instead of a Les Paul that tunes itself, how about an SG that balances properly?

They do exist. My friend Dennis has one, and if he wasn't such a stand-up guy, I would probably have stolen it from him when i tried it. It was sweet!

Ballard · « **Reply #11 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 12:08 »

"All you have to do is play it"

What the shit? That's quite possibly the worst slogan I've ever seen.

Over-hyped, over-priced (I'm sure) bullshit.

Will change the industry about as much as this guy:

jeph · « **Reply #12 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 18:33 »

Quote from: Lummer on 13 Nov 2007, 11:39

Quote from: jeph on 13 Nov 2007, 01:13
Also instead of a Les Paul that tunes itself, how about an SG that balances properly?

They do exist. My friend Dennis has one, and if he wasn't such a stand-up guy, I would probably have stolen it from him when i tried it. It was sweet!

It must have been hard to play with the headstock broken off!

Ballard · « **Reply #13 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 19:46 »

What's the grudge, Jeph?

Patrick · « **Reply #14 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 19:53 »

Jeph, please don't talk about broken Gibson headstocks. I am still crying over my SG. Fucking Gibson, why haven't they redesigned that headstock so that the angle is optimized for the straight-ass mahogany grain?

Whatever, live and learn, I guess. I'm never buying their EDS-1275. The short 6-string headstock is a terror enough, let alone a foot-long 12-string headstock. *shudder*

jeph · « **Reply #15 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 19:55 »

You think that's bad, I have a Firebird Studio. Damn thing's headstock is almost as long as the EDS and even flimsier-looking. I keep it in its case because I'm terrified of what would happen were I to knock it off its stand.

Patrick · « **Reply #16 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 20:11 »

That's what happened to my SG. The bullshit part? It fell face-down, hit the nut, and yet it broke like 4cm *behind* the nut.

Question though: is the Firebird's headstock angled or straight? If it's straight, there's a bit less need for worry. But I still wouldn't trust that thing, mahogany's brittle despite being fairly dense, that's the only reason anybody can EVER get feedback out of Les Pauls.

I'm still not impressed by this self-tuning guitar, though. For one, I saw that headstock, and it's still as failtastic as all other Gibson headstocks I've seen. For two, you can't tune it while you're playing anyway, so it's not exactly a big difference. For three, if Ted Leo hadn't had to tune up his guitar during his "yap with the crowd" sessions when I saw him at Stanford, it wouldn't have quite had that rough-and-ready authenticity that is so much a part of my admiration for his music and his live performances.

Ballard · « **Reply #17 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 20:18 »

Quote from: jeph on 13 Nov 2007, 19:55

You think that's bad, I have a Firebird Studio. Damn thing's headstock is almost as long as the EDS and even flimsier-looking. I keep it in its case because I'm terrified of what would happen were I to knock it off its stand.

No way that's at a weird angle like the typical Gibson headstock though, right?

jeph · « **Reply #18 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 20:22 »

Actually yeah. Same angle and everything. It's cool looking, but they basically took the worst aspects of the Gibson headstock and combined them with the worst aspects of the Fender headstock.

Sweet guitar though. I love the way Firebirds balance when you play 'em standing up.

Patrick · « **Reply #19 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 20:26 »

Ugh, I bet if you breathed on it hard enough, you could snap it like a wishbone.

(I love how nobody cares about the self-tuning guitar and is now talking about how shitty Gibson's headstocks are. This means the threadjack is complete and I have just won an inter-nets victory)

jeph · « **Reply #20 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 20:47 »

You Leveled Up!

Please assign 3 skill points to the following skill trees:

- NecroPosting
- Cat Macros
- Mod Summoning
- Godwin's Shield Of Nazi Defense
- Webcest

Ballard · « **Reply #21 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 20:54 »

I blew all my points into webcest thinking my sexy powers would be unstoppable, but then Longcat and Mengele teamed up and pwnd me.

jeph · « **Reply #22 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 20:59 »

There are really only a few instances where an all-webcest build is useful. The loot in San'Diego'Comic'Con is pretty sweet though.

Ballard · « **Reply #23 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 21:31 »

None of the ComicCon people came to MoCCA. Fuckers.

Wayfaring Stranger · « **Reply #24 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 22:49 »

With a self-tuning guitar, we won't have lovely tuning breaks where the lead singer tries to make witty/confusing comments to fill the awkward silence. That would be sad.

Johnny C · « **Reply #25 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 22:55 »

yeah i love those parts

WAIT NO I DON'T

Ballard · « **Reply #26 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 23:15 »

By the way guys, this is rocking out with your coke out (accompanying story).

Narr · « **Reply #27 on:** 13 Nov 2007, 23:49 »

I think the only people excited about an auto-tuning guitar are people that have an awfully hard time tuning guitars right and are lazy fuckers.

basically like myself.

Lummer · « **Reply #28 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 03:35 »

Well, if you buy a decent guitar, it WILL stay as long as you put the strings on correctly.

Why Gibson dips it toes in this matter, is beyond me. A self tuning guitar is a complete waste of time, especially for a company whose guitars stay in tune after hours upon hours of abuse.

FireAarro · « **Reply #29 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 04:18 »

Yeah, this is pretty stupid. I can't imagine there'd be a big market for it at all. The guy who said it'd sound sterile though, it should sound the same as any current production chambered Les Paul. It just has some extra crap in it.

Quote from: Ballard on 13 Nov 2007, 12:08

Will change the industry about as much as this guy:

First Hip Hop album to top Billboard was something pretty big, I thought.

Ballard · « **Reply #30 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 07:48 »

I a) mostly just wanted to joke on Rick Rubin, and b) was referring to the poor sales/deterioration of the recording industry.

Bishop138 · « **Reply #31 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 09:07 »

It's an awesome idea, but does it sound any good? That's the general question I've been thinking.

SeanBateman · « **Reply #32 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 10:53 »

Quote from: jeph on 13 Nov 2007, 20:47

You Leveled Up!

Please assign 3 skill points to the following skill trees:

- NecroPosting
- Cat Macros
- Mod Summoning
- Godwin's Shield Of Nazi Defense
- Webcest

Wait, shit. Is there a messageboard posting RPG? Like for real, has this been done? I am sure it's been done.

Patrick · « **Reply #33 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 11:16 »

I've already filled up Cat Macros, Necroposting and Godwin's Shield of Nazi Defense, and I'm pretty high up in Webcest. Let's finish Webcest up and use my remaining 2 points for Mod Summoning.

Johnny C · « **Reply #34 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 13:55 »

I shudder to think what Tommy's letter would have looked like if that photo was of Bob Rock.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #35 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 19:56 »

Real rock stars just spend the insane amounts of money this thing undoubtedly costs on a number of different normal guitars, keep them all in different tunings, and hire a lackey to run the required guitar on stage.

I'm presuming that that is what this auto-tune thing is mainly for, non-standard tunings at the twizzle of a knob. That would be quite nice. I can definitely see musical utility there. I want one of these auto-tuners for my Spanish guitar. I keep snapping the high, pure nylon strings by playing it with metal picks and coins, and those fuckers take like, a fucking week to stretch to a point where they do not go out of tune in under a minute.

Also, guys, when you mention the model numbers of guitars and such forth everyone else just hears you jacking off.

Wayfaring Stranger · « **Reply #36 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 19:59 »

Seems to me like a robot switching the guitar in and out of alternate tunings would be a fantastic recipe for strings breaking. I guess it depends on what kind of strings you're using. If it worked, that'd be awfully handy.

I think the finish on that guitar is sort of ugly...

KharBevNor · « **Reply #37 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 20:02 »

Why would going to alternative tunings using servo motors be any more wearing on the strings than turning the tuning pegs by hand? If anything, its better for the strings, because the computerised system hits the right tuning exactly first time, without twiddling the knobs back and forth a couple of times and playing scales.

Wayfaring Stranger · « **Reply #38 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 20:08 »

I think I would just personally feel free to change tunings far more often, thus putting more wear on the strings than I currently do. You're right, though, it probably wouldn't be all that different.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #39 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 20:15 »

At least we can agree it's probably a good thing this guitar wasn't invented in the hey-day of prog rock.

Johnny C · « **Reply #40 on:** 14 Nov 2007, 21:29 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 14 Nov 2007, 19:56

I keep snapping the high, pure nylon strings by playing it with metal picks and coins, and those fuckers take like, a fucking week to stretch to a point where they do not go out of tune in under a minute.

I may have figured out your problem.

Patrick · « **Reply #41 on:** 15 Nov 2007, 02:34 »

Quote from: KharBevNor on 14 Nov 2007, 19:56

Also, guys, when you mention the model numbers of guitars and such forth everyone else just hears you jacking off.

I prefer the term "strokin ur harbl," thank you very much.

(besides, "12-string/6-string doubleneck" takes a lot more effort to type than "EDS-1275" so NYAAAAH)

KharBevNor · « **Reply #42 on:** 15 Nov 2007, 04:05 »

Quote from: Johnny C on 14 Nov 2007, 21:29

I may have figured out your problem.

But it sounds AWESOME.

Johnny C · « **Reply #43 on:** 15 Nov 2007, 06:46 »

The pick maybe, but having used coins before I'm pretty sure they sound awful.

Ballard · « **Reply #44 on:** 15 Nov 2007, 07:06 »

Depends on the coin and how used to playing with it you are. Thick coins are awkward and sound terrible, but thin, medium-sized ones (hard to find, at least in America) could work well. Like Brian May's sixpence.

Spinless · « **Reply #45 on:** 15 Nov 2007, 08:15 »

I can't think of a single coin in English currency that is nice to play guitar with.
Maybe the softer edge of the 5 pence piece, but those are far to small to play comfortably with.

In conclusion, Khar is not using English currency and/or he has a hearing problem.

carrotosaurus · « **Reply #46 on:** 15 Nov 2007, 08:27 »

Billy Gibbons plays with a peso instead of a pick.

I don't know why I know that, but it's true.

Ballard · « **Reply #47 on:** 15 Nov 2007, 08:43 »

If American dimes were the size of quarters (or quarters the thickness of dimes), they'd be perfect.

Patrick · « **Reply #48 on:** 15 Nov 2007, 08:45 »

Quote from: carrotosaurus on 15 Nov 2007, 08:27

Billy Gibbons plays with a peso instead of a pick.

I don't know why I know that, but it's true.

I still have that Guitar World laying around somewhere. He has a bunch of them specially-filed just laying around in a box somewhere or something. They don't even mint that same coin anymore so any coin collectors (such as myself) are bound to wind up hating him in the next 5 years.

KharBevNor · « **Reply #49 on:** 15 Nov 2007, 09:31 »

Coins is mainly when I can't find my metal pick. I use a 2p. Filing it down is actually an awesome idea.

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