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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #50 on: 28 Dec 2007, 23:16 »

zomg forget about that, on the Company section of the massive black website you can see the monsters from picture one and picture two in clay, just sitting on the desk. not cloverfield, move on...
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #51 on: 29 Dec 2007, 07:56 »

If the "monster" really does end up just being some big Godzilla thing, I think the first hour will be tense and exciting and then, once they show the monster, it will be another generic action flick.

I'd to be proven wrong somehow, but can't think of anything that would add a significant twist.

It probably doesn't help that I don't trust JJ Abrams (I know he didn't actually write it, but it's his baby).
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #52 on: 29 Dec 2007, 16:43 »

I just hope that it avoids the many cliches of his other baby Lost.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #53 on: 29 Dec 2007, 16:51 »

Lost is quite possibly the worst drama that has ever been on television, from a writing standpoint, that has actually managed to have fans.  Fans who actually don't care that the writers have no idea where the show is going and just throw weird shit in for no other reason than to be weird.

Anytime someone tells me how "intellectual" and "deep" Lost is, I throw episodes of The Prisoner at them until they're unconscious.
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« Reply #54 on: 29 Dec 2007, 18:02 »

And, as everyone knows, MASS MYSTERIOUS NUMBERS = INSTANT WIN.

It's even worse because the first season showed potential.  But as soon as everyone and their brother speculated "I think I get it - they're all dead and in Hell/Purgatory" the writers, who had probably intended something like that to be true, had to backpedal like crazy and try "rationally" explaining it.

Lost is like watching your 7 year old brother play an Infocom game.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #55 on: 29 Dec 2007, 18:36 »

I have a feeling that first concept drawing, with the louse that is as big as a hipster is real.  In the trailer you see silhouettes killing a girl, and they look a lot like the louse.  I was thinking perhaps something reptilian that also brought children with it or an alien robot craft.  The deep-sea monster thing with louses seems viable.
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« Reply #56 on: 30 Dec 2007, 10:57 »

Lost isn't J.J.'s baby.

He hasn't even been involved with the show since the first episode, really. ABC had a Gilligan's Island drama pilot and J.J. was brought on board to actually make it interesting. Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have been the showrunners since then.

Also, it's good and fuck you, get back to talking about Cloverfield.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #57 on: 30 Dec 2007, 11:21 »

Lost isn't J.J.'s baby.

He hasn't even been involved with the show since the first episode, really.

He is still credited as being an executive producer, writer and co-creator so I think it's likely has still has creative input.

Networks don't just keep paying someone for a job they're not doing.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #58 on: 30 Dec 2007, 11:31 »

I dunno, Bill O'Reilly's supposed to be relevant but they're still cutting him a cheque.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #59 on: 30 Dec 2007, 11:34 »

Lost isn't J.J.'s baby.

He hasn't even been involved with the show since the first episode, really.

If you give a baby up for adoption and never see or hear of it again, it's still your baby.

Back to Cloverfield, I have a funny feeling that there will be more than one monster, bar the lice on the giant louse if that is real, in this film.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #60 on: 01 Jan 2008, 23:18 »

when I heard about this I was really hoping it was going to be something Lovecraftian, but I don't think that's what the movie is going to about.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #61 on: 02 Jan 2008, 08:12 »

I'm pretty certain it's going to basically be a Spielberg-remake War of the Worlds ripoff, where nothing at all about the monster is explained, and people just basically get increasingly fucked over the course of 2 hours until something "wacky" happens at the end and everyone is okay.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #62 on: 02 Jan 2008, 09:05 »

i read somewhere that this movie is from the perspective of people that were at a going away party and a lot of the filming is done as if it were from a handheld camcorder type thing.

this leads me to believe that the camera motion in the movie will induce some serious nauseu for me. damn... i still want to see this one. if it comes to it i could just leave halfway through like i had to for 28 weeks later and fellowship of the ring.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #63 on: 02 Jan 2008, 09:10 »

Yes, from the commercials and pre-release info, the movie is mostly/entirely filmed in camcorder-vision.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #64 on: 02 Jan 2008, 10:25 »

Which is potentially really cool but also in danger of becoming a gimmick the director uses to make it stand out.

LOLOLOL BLAIR WITCH LOLOLOL.

Although, it's a cool way to do a monster movie.  I guess it would make it feel more immersive.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #65 on: 02 Jan 2008, 11:50 »

Blair Witch was a very good film, especially if you're old enough to have seen it in the theater without any spoilers.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #66 on: 02 Jan 2008, 13:52 »

I'm pretty certain it's going to basically be a Spielberg-remake War of the Worlds ripoff, where nothing at all about the monster is explained, and people just basically get increasingly fucked over the course of 2 hours until something "wacky" happens at the end and everyone is okay.

This is how the movie needs to be. End with "and everybody died" after all that, and it will be my new favorite monster movie. Especially if it's a giant isopod.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #67 on: 02 Jan 2008, 14:10 »

Jesus, aren't we over the whole handheld camera thing yet? Not to come over all David Stratton on you all (that's an Australian cultural reference, folks), but it's getting a bit old. I want to be able to actually see what's in the movie, instead of just watching it in shaky-vision. As for handheld god-damn camcorders, why would I fork out good money to spend an hour-and-a-half or more watching something that goes out of its way to look like shit? I mean hell, next someone's going to make a feature filmed entirely on camera-phone (if they haven't already).
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« Reply #68 on: 02 Jan 2008, 16:46 »

Well, this movie has a four BILLION!!!!! dollar budget for it's special effects, I'm sure you'll get to see them quite clearly at some point. If you watch the trailers and TV spots, there are clearly shots that are NOT done in 'home cam' mode. I hope this calms you down!
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #69 on: 02 Jan 2008, 16:57 »

Four billion? I don't believe that, there's no way they could ever recoup that kind of expense.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #70 on: 02 Jan 2008, 17:05 »

wow, I wonder if Abrams is going to bring back animatronics as a substitute for CG.  I really ca not think of any other way to justify that kind of budget.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #71 on: 14 Jan 2008, 13:21 »

HUGE SPOILER


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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #72 on: 14 Jan 2008, 13:28 »

You should probably just link that image, considering when I clicked the button for new replies it took me directly to the picture and not the text that said HUGE SPOILER.

Just so you know.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #73 on: 14 Jan 2008, 14:15 »

Blair Witch was a very good film, especially if you're old enough to have seen it in the theater without any spoilers.

Sure, but what about Blair Witch 2?

checkmate.

Anyway, I would expect this to be the kind of movie that capitalizes on memories of 9/11, what with the handheld disaster-vision and all.

Thoughts?

And does it really matter what the monster looks like?
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #74 on: 14 Jan 2008, 14:25 »

I'm going to go with no it doesn't matter what the monster actually looks like. I want to know what it is in the sense of whole "Project: Cloverfield" is this some government genetics experiment gone horribly wrong or what?

I too worry about the handheld camcorder because I had to leave Blair Witch due to motion sickness issues.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #75 on: 14 Jan 2008, 21:42 »

HUGE SPOILER




Does that thing have balls on the side of its face or is it just me?
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #76 on: 14 Jan 2008, 21:51 »

Does that thing have one completely unnecessary pair of legs or is it just me?
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #77 on: 14 Jan 2008, 22:11 »

I liked the other one with louses on it. < <
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #78 on: 14 Jan 2008, 22:23 »

This one has louses on it.  They chase people down and bite them, which makes them explode, apparently.

Also, I enjoyed Blair Witch 2 for what it was.  I enjoyed it in much the same way as I enjoyed Loaded, for many of the same reasons.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #79 on: 14 Jan 2008, 23:39 »

In the trailer you see silhouettes killing a girl, and they look a lot like the louse.

I think those are supposed to be dudes in hazmat suits.  Jury's still out on whether they're killing her or not.  That'd add a fun dystopian veneer to this flick.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #80 on: 15 Jan 2008, 01:28 »

frame by frame, as well as shot comparisons to the seconds before the silhouettes show that they ARE guys in hazmat suits, and the girl is the one you see looking all pale and bleeding from the eyes. Presumably, they're leading her somewhere, and she blows up or something?
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #81 on: 15 Jan 2008, 12:53 »

Yes, the girl with the Hazmat guys explodes.  Like I said, the dog-lice bite you and you blow up for whatever unexplained reason.

A lot of people have seen it already and so I've read basically the entire movie description, since I know I'll never bother watching it.

Apparently you do see quite a bit of monster action, which is a little disappointing.  I liked it better when it was assumed it would be a Cthulhu-type thing, where you never see anything but it's implied it's so huge and horrible you'd go insane if you did.  But, no, it's just an American Godzilla, ho hum.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #82 on: 15 Jan 2008, 13:34 »

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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #83 on: 15 Jan 2008, 13:37 »

yeah, that whale-thing was cool.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #84 on: 15 Jan 2008, 13:48 »

Pretty much.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #85 on: 15 Jan 2008, 13:55 »

On the other hand, a movie version of Robot Alchemic Drive as shown only from the POV of the pilots?  I would so watch that.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #86 on: 17 Jan 2008, 04:41 »

and there was me hoping it'd be a cloud of black smoke.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #87 on: 17 Jan 2008, 11:02 »

This actually is a big spoiler. This is from a bootleg of an advanced screening posted on those silly imdb forums.
So, here is the obligatory HUGE SPOILER

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/6899/cloverfieldsmalleq0.gif
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #88 on: 17 Jan 2008, 12:18 »

The entire thing looks like a cross between Independence day and the Blair Witch Project. Neither were much good. The fact that they had a good mystery going and then revealed another typical monster looking "bad guy" just makes it look worse. Is originality really such a sin that everyone must avoid it?
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #89 on: 17 Jan 2008, 12:56 »

Anything of the sort would never get a producer.

"That's kind of the whole point of the movie, you never actually get to see it."


Sorta reminds me of Jaws, where you didn't see him the first half of the movie.

And, more relating to your comment, if an older, more respected, director/screenplay writer did that, they would do it. 
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #90 on: 17 Jan 2008, 13:03 »

After reading all the spoilers I can safely assume that my original prediction that this would be like the first hour of Spielberg's War of the Worlds is pretty accurate.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #91 on: 17 Jan 2008, 13:50 »

This actually is a big spoiler. This is from a bootleg of an advanced screening posted on those silly imdb forums.
So, here is the obligatory HUGE SPOILER

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/6899/cloverfieldsmalleq0.gif

That thing looks like a cross between Venom and like, the Incredible Hulk, or some shit like that.
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #92 on: 17 Jan 2008, 13:55 »

That thing looks like a cross between Venom and Gollum
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« Reply #93 on: 17 Jan 2008, 17:04 »

Really? Looks like a little yellow frog to me   :-P

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Re: Project: Cloverfield
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #95 on: 17 Jan 2008, 23:22 »

Ok, seriously.  I'm gonna Skullfuck me some J.J. Abrams.  What the fuck...
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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #96 on: 18 Jan 2008, 00:18 »

Haha, I mean that the ending left me wanting more.  It left a bunch of questions unanswered, but I guess it was the only way they could have ended it...
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« Reply #97 on: 18 Jan 2008, 05:20 »

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Re: Project: Cloverfield
« Reply #98 on: 18 Jan 2008, 19:23 »

Saw it tonight. I expected 3 tons of questions and no answers, and thats what i got.  I would like to see it again without the people I saw it with, because they came out of the theater proclaiming their hate for the ending. 


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I thought the ending was great; it is different from most movies where everything is tied up.  reminded me of John Carpenter's The Thing a little bit.





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« Reply #99 on: 18 Jan 2008, 20:02 »

Seeing this tomorrow after work, will post about it then.
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