Topic: There Will Be Blood (Read 40773 times)

ImRonBurgundy? · « **on:** 24 Nov 2007, 23:35 »

I saw this today at a special Cinematographer's Guild screening (thank you, dad) and all I can say about it is that it is amazing. The final scene is cinematic perfection. See this film. I demand it.

Trollstormur · « **Reply #1 on:** 24 Nov 2007, 23:37 »

I saw the trailer with No Country for Old Men. looks fantastic.

Cartilage Head · « **Reply #2 on:** 25 Nov 2007, 01:36 »

DANIEL.

DAY.

I don't give a fuck what it is about, it is going to be my favorite movie.

october1983 · « **Reply #3 on:** 25 Nov 2007, 05:09 »

I really want to see it, but the name reminds me of the tagline for Saw II ("Oh yes...there will be blood"), which my friends and I became very familiar with last year because, for some reason, a load of buses in London that used to drive past our kitchen window still had Saw II adverts on them.

That said, I'm very much looking forward to it. It looks amazing.

De_El · « **Reply #4 on:** 25 Nov 2007, 13:50 »

Definitely going to see that one. Daniel Day Lewis is amazing and it looks like it has really strong, interesting characters.

Johnny C · « **Reply #5 on:** 25 Nov 2007, 15:27 »

Quote from: Cartilage Head on 25 Nov 2007, 01:36

DANIEL.

DAY.

I don't give a fuck what it is about, it is going to be my favorite movie.

It's about the development of Southern California into oil country and the human cost of that.

De_El · « **Reply #6 on:** 25 Nov 2007, 18:19 »

Based on the novel Oil! by Upton Sinclair.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #7 on:** 25 Nov 2007, 19:40 »

Please don't quote the post directly above yours. It's unnecessary.

I guess I'm looking forward to this. I like Daniel Day Lewis a whole hell of a lot and the story seems pretty interesting. The preview has me feeling lukewarm. I don't know how I feel about the kid from Little Miss Sunshine being it (as some crazy boy preacher apparently) because he wasn't particularly good in a role as easy as a surly teenager. I'm sure I'll see it but at the moment I'm not expecting great things (especially since the last westernish I saw was No Country for Old Men and I'll inevitably be comparing the two).

ImRonBurgundy? · « **Reply #8 on:** 04 Jan 2008, 14:43 »

Oh my God, have none of you guys seen this movie yet? This is an instant American classic! GOGOGO!

thehollow · « **Reply #9 on:** 04 Jan 2008, 15:54 »

It's not out in my area for another week or so.

My friend from LA was in town and he had a DVD screener of it that he yoinked from some chick he's boning who's in the WGA, but he refused to let us watch it, saying we need to see it in a theater for our first viewing. I wanted to kill him at the time, but I'll probably appreciate what he did after I see it next week on the big screen.

Tom · « **Reply #10 on:** 05 Jan 2008, 00:31 »

It won't be here for a while, No Country for Old Men just started screening.

RedLion · « **Reply #11 on:** 07 Jan 2008, 17:40 »

I desperately want to see this, but the closest place it's playing is Chicago. That's about 2 hours away, and I'm not really willing to drive that far for one movie. I'm sure it will come to Madison eventually. I'm just surprised it hasn't already; we got I'm Not There and No Country for Old Men the day they opened.

thehollow · « **Reply #12 on:** 07 Jan 2008, 19:39 »

It opens at the Sundance Theater on January 25th. Where in Madison are you?

pilsner · « **Reply #13 on:** 07 Jan 2008, 22:17 »

Top 5 rejected titles for "There Will Be Blood":

5: "There Will Be A Little Blood, But Not As Much As You Might Think Given The Title"

4: "There Will Be Pathos"

3: "There Will Be An Oscar For Paul Thomas Anderson That Will Make Scorsese Cry"

2: "There Will be Titular Symbols Reminiscent of Certain Recent U.S. Wars"

1: "Spoiler Deleted"

I found it a little arch and pretentious -- not to mention slow through the middle third -- but I was the only one in my group not to leave wanting to build a Paul Thomas Anderson love shrine, so your mileage may vary.

Johnny C · « **Reply #14 on:** 07 Jan 2008, 23:03 »

There Will Be Moustache.

pilsner · « **Reply #15 on:** 08 Jan 2008, 08:19 »

Quote from: Johnny C on 07 Jan 2008, 23:03

There Will Be Moustache.

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #16 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 23:16 »

Just saw this movie tonight and I can only say wow. I thought it was great and I'm agreeing on it having one of the most perfectly constructed endings of all time. I admit it got a tad bit slow in a few parts, but nothing could dampen my love for this film. After seeing this film I am finding all sorts of things about life all of a sudden becoming better. The colors a little brighter, the dinner I had at Wendy's afterwords was tolerable and even the ending to No Country for Old Men I think I got a little better. I even liked Paul Dano's character, which in truth I expected to be the weak link of this movie.

KickThatBathProf · « **Reply #17 on:** 20 Jan 2008, 23:33 »

Quote from: pilsner on 08 Jan 2008, 08:19

Quote from: Johnny C on 07 Jan 2008, 23:03
There Will Be Moustache.

*cries*

It's so glorious, his moustache!

KvP · « **Reply #18 on:** 21 Jan 2008, 09:06 »

Quote from: Boro_Bandito on 20 Jan 2008, 23:16

I thought it was great and I'm agreeing on it having one of the most perfectly constructed endings of all time.

See, I know all sorts of people who think that the movie would've been better without the ending (haven't seen it myself, but I hear Daniel Day Lewis eats a four course meal of steak and scenery) They don't like time jumps, I guess.

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #19 on:** 21 Jan 2008, 15:28 »

The ending is there for a reason.

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For one thing, it shows the character breaking apart in the little world he's built for himself away from the people he hates so much. He's become an empty shell for hatred, if it had ended early the movie just wouldn't have made any sense.
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Ravenbomb · « **Reply #20 on:** 21 Jan 2008, 20:28 »

I don't see how it could've ended any way BUT the way it ended.

De_El · « **Reply #21 on:** 25 Jan 2008, 21:08 »

Just saw the movie, friggin finally. I missed a few minutes at the beginning because of really bad traffic, so that's an excuse to see it again.
It wasreally, really ood, of course. Very Citizen Kane. Although, I'm not sure he was even an okay person to begin with, so he just kind of went from mischievous playful evil to seriously evil motherfucker. The last scene is really, really hammering. I just felt so much disgust for him. You identify with his character in the middle a little bit of course, but by the end he's just not worthy of empathy.

Also, I saw the movie with my mom. I thought it was funny that she didn't like the music.

RallyMonkey · « **Reply #22 on:** 27 Jan 2008, 17:50 »

It was amazing. I really, really loved that movie. The ending was perfect, I thought. His gradual descent into insanity was great.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #23 on:** 27 Jan 2008, 21:06 »

I take back my previous post. This was truly masterful. Wonderful acting, a great and compelling story and a telling and rather biting look at our world today in many ways. Really very excellent and well worth a trip to see in theaters.

Liz · « **Reply #24 on:** 27 Jan 2008, 22:03 »

So I finally got to see it and I must say that I think I like it more than No Country for Old Men. Shocker! I think what really sold it for me was the conflict between Daniel and Eli throughout the film. Paul Dano did such a great job in his role, which I was a little bit worried about when I read about the character.

That's pretty much all I have to say, I'm horrible at movie reviews.

SevenPinkerton · « **Reply #25 on:** 01 Feb 2008, 12:21 »

I loved this movie. I loved Daniel's character. It was so well thought out and so well acted. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Far more than No Country for Old Men. Though, the entire thing reminded me of the Bush Administration.

DelusionalBlues · « **Reply #26 on:** 01 Feb 2008, 15:27 »

I already think I've found my best movie for 2008.

RedLion · « **Reply #27 on:** 01 Feb 2008, 16:49 »

I finally saw this movie and absolutely adored it. DDL does some of the best acting I've seen in my life. Still, it's more of a character study than a full-on brain-blower of a movie, so my pick for Best Picture still goes to No Country.

Johnny C · « **Reply #28 on:** 02 Feb 2008, 00:50 »

It's finally out here. I'm seeing it at noon tomorrow.

Liz · « **Reply #29 on:** 02 Feb 2008, 10:21 »

You will not be disappointed. I guarantee it.

Johnny C · « **Reply #30 on:** 02 Feb 2008, 14:22 »

Quote from: De_El on 25 Jan 2008, 21:08

Very Citizen Kane.

Only apt comparison. Fucking phenomenal movie.

KvP · « **Reply #31 on:** 02 Feb 2008, 16:14 »

***SPOILARDS****

Quote from: De_El on 25 Jan 2008, 21:08

Very Citizen Kane.

That's what I thought as well.

I didn't like the ending, not that I take issue with the content, I just think it was unnecessary. His last scene with H.W. would have made a far better ending. The thing is that Eli was never even close to being an equal to Plainview. It's sort of odd that the movie is being sold as a struggle between Eli and Daniel, when Eli never had any sort of chance to foil Plainview's plans. You know he's a charlatan from the outset, just as Plainview knows it. The ending sort of assumes we didn't. I found it gratuitous.

Overall, though, I think it's the best movie of '07. I think that might be because I was ridiculously hyped for No Country for Old Men and wasn't totally prepared for how restrained and methodical that movie was (I was expecting more thriller than noir, and got more noir than thriller) and wasn't hyped at all for this film going in.

PT Anderson has proven that he's not chained to the ensemble. Of course, he couldn't have chosen a better anchor for the film. Daniel Day Lewis shows once again that he might be the best actor of his generation.

Johnny C · « **Reply #32 on:** 02 Feb 2008, 16:23 »

*HERE BE SPOILERS - DUNNA READ IF YE NAE SEEN THE FILM*

I thought the ending was perfect for showing how completely he'd lost himself to greed and power. I don't think the movie assumed we didn't think Eli was a charlatan; rather, I think it assumed we still thought there was a man behind Plainview's callousness. Instead, the movie reveals that by the end there is naught but a ruthless beast. He knows Eli is no match for him - that's what makes the murder so shocking.

I dunno. I'll have to watch it one more time, probably, just like I had to watch No Country twice.

SevenPinkerton · « **Reply #33 on:** 04 Feb 2008, 10:31 »

SPOILERIFIC

I don't think the ending assumed that we didn't know about Eli. I thought the entire ending was for watching the two finally come together in all honesty of who they truly are, rather than showing the audience what we already knew from the get go. I thought it was one of the best scenes in the movie. Strangely enough, it was the only death that didn't much bother me as it seemed so inevitable. The conflict wasn't so much in physical terms of halting the business of Daniel or in Daniel halting Eli's Church, but in that they both knew the other's truth because they were both so very alike. Neither really won, in the end, but I wasn't sure if either really understood what it was they wanted.

Wasn't Eli the kid from Little Miss Sunshine?

KvP · « **Reply #34 on:** 04 Feb 2008, 16:35 »

Paul Dano, yes. I was a little confused by the appearance of Paul at the beginning of the movie. Was he Eli's twin brother? Because if he wasn't, damn, whoever they got to play Eli looked exactly like Paul Dano.

De_El · « **Reply #35 on:** 04 Feb 2008, 17:20 »

It's the same actor. I was confused too. When Eli appeared, I thought maybe he was fucking with them or was schizoid.

patrisaurus · « **Reply #36 on:** 05 Feb 2008, 00:25 »

I liked this more than any movie I've seen in quite a while...what a great story.

SevenPinkerton · « **Reply #37 on:** 05 Feb 2008, 11:25 »

I think the brother mentioned he had a twin at the beginning of the movie and I just missed it, because everyone I went with knew he had a twin except me. I would've kept on believing Eli was the same as Paul at the beginning had he not attacked his father and mentioned him.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #38 on:** 05 Feb 2008, 19:26 »

P.T. Anderson said somewhere that they were twins so yeah, they're twins. Still, it definitely confused me as I was watching and there are a couple of scenes which potentially suggest, in a rather ambiguous way, that Eli had multiple personalities (at the end, for example, he when getting drinks for Daniel and himself he pours three. Often people with multiple personalities will do things like that for their other selves). However the potency of the ending would be lost in a lot of ways if they were the same person. Also, it just wouldn't make a whole lot of sense, nor would it really add anything at all to the plot.

KvP · « **Reply #39 on:** 05 Feb 2008, 22:24 »

Yeah, that would be rather off-the-wall.

Kind of funny to think about, though.

Johnny C · « **Reply #40 on:** 06 Feb 2008, 09:27 »

I dunno if it would detract from the potency of the ending. The only reason they look the same, though, is because Dano was cast as Paul before he was Eli. Anderson tried to shoot the film in sequence as much as possible and the actor playing Eli dropped out a couple of weeks in, so the Paul scenes were already shot but the Eli scenes had to be reshot. Rather than recast it, Anderson just took an actor that he felt should have had a larger role and gave him one. Still, it's neat to speculate, isn't it?

Since Eli would be the dominant personality, hearing that he was the "afterbirth" and that Paul was his parents' real son would be utterly crushing. Same with the idea that Paul has multiple oil wells - it would read as a glimpse of the life Eli could have led as Paul.

Narr · « **Reply #41 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 01:49 »

Just got back from one of the few theaters in the city showing it, and I have to say it was pretty spectacular.

Brilliant film.

I wonder what it was Daniel told Eli after the whole spiritual baptism sinner repentance scene dealy. Eli looked rather uncomfortable, and only started to smile after Daniel went to sit down. He hushed up the crowd early, too, which seemed atypical for him by then.

Also, the way I saw the ending was more Daniel taking out his hate for his own life on the figure that stood for God. Despite pretenses of power, he realized his life wasn't where he wanted it to be. Drunk with the power of his physical wealth and empire, and drunk literally, he couldn't resist the temptation to kill God.

SevenPinkerton · « **Reply #42 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 07:59 »

That's an interesting interpretation. I have a hard time seeing it that way because Daniel knew all along that Eli was false and not for God at all but his own fame and wealth. Maybe that is how Daniel sees God...

I loved that Daniel never really had a goal besides making money and like many old rich guys, he learned that as soon as he halted his mad pursuit of wealth he realized he never really had anything but the pursuit and the wealth really did him nothing. One of my favorite scenes at the end was when he shouted at his son, only to regret it in a rare moment of guilt. I took it as a stubborn refusal to admit that he wanted companionship, love, etc, rather than simply wealth. One of my favorite things about Daniel is that he is so real in that aspect. He's stubborn and selfish to the point of lying to himself rather than a hollywood figure that comes to realize he wants his son's love in the end. The image of him making a mess in one room of a giant house in which he is completely alone is just too perfect.

I can't rave about this movie enough. I just simply loved it.

Johnny C · « **Reply #43 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 08:56 »

The montage of his son near the end was one of only two glimpses of remorse in that character.

MusicScribbles · « **Reply #44 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 10:09 »

I just saw this last night, and I have to say that this movie had an excellent soundtrack. I'm not sure if that was pointed out yet, but I felt I should say something about it.
Anyway, SPOILERS

The ending of the movie couldn't have been better. I loved the ending so much.
Not only were the last words spoken "I'm finished.", but the shot didn't go to the credits for another ten seconds. This movie had excellent cinematography.

De_El · « **Reply #45 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 13:11 »

So I saw it again Friday. Apparently it was abundantly clear to everyone but me that Eli was full of shit, but when I watched There Will Be Blood I thought Eli was pretty sincere in his psychosis. And I mean, thinking of certain scenes, I can reason to the conclusion that he was a manipulative, self-serving bastard, but when I was actually watching the film I kind of believed him. Not that he actually was the "third revelation" but that he believed he was.

Narr · « **Reply #46 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 14:05 »

I thought the soundtrack was pretty jarring, to be honest. A lot of it didn't really fit for me.

Something my friend who went with me pointed out about Daniel Day Lewis is the genuine work they put him to in the film. I didn't realize it but a lot of the scenes where he's exerting a lot of physical energy (chasing his son after he sets the house on fire, the distance he runs while holding his boy after the oil well springs to fire, the shots of him mining at the very beginning) were mostly done in single takes, as in the shot never actually leaves him to cut to another angle. That really added a lot of believability to him because it just added to the genuine grizzled nature of Daniel in the movie.

bryanthelion · « **Reply #47 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 17:08 »

fuck, I already forgot the last scene.

Yes, it was amazing. I haven't seen atonement yet, but so far I think this is going to win best picture. I would rather have Juno though, but I know it wont win.

MusicScribbles · « **Reply #48 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 18:37 »

I definitely feel like this is going to win best picture. I would rather No Country For Old Men won, but this probably will.

SevenPinkerton · « **Reply #49 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 08:06 »

I was sort of disappointed with No Country for Old Men. I enjoyed this movie far more.

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