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The Great Gatsby
« on: 11 Dec 2007, 20:06 »

Holy shit, I hate that book. Just throwing that out there.
Do people actually enjoy it, or is it all a conspiracy about praising mediocre writing?



.. No, seriously. =|
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #1 on: 11 Dec 2007, 20:12 »

I hate that book too.  And F. Scott Fitzgerald, he was a sexist jerk.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #2 on: 11 Dec 2007, 20:18 »

Sentiments are echoed.  The book is short, that's about it.

The fact that it is still recognized as a classic and studied as such baffles me.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #3 on: 11 Dec 2007, 20:20 »

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.
I had such high hopes when we were assigned to read it.
What a let down :/
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #4 on: 11 Dec 2007, 23:00 »

You guys are crazy.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #5 on: 11 Dec 2007, 23:11 »

I enjoyed the book.  What is it you don't really like about it?  You say it's mediocre writing.  How so?  What do you mean by that?
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #6 on: 11 Dec 2007, 23:24 »

I also enjoyed the book.  It isn't one of those read once books.  You have to go back two maybe three times before you actually get what is going on there.  Although the book is short, there is so much going ons that most people miss it.

It's so intrically complicated that its a beauty to behold.  Its too hard to explain without going into a longwinded monolouge
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #7 on: 12 Dec 2007, 03:19 »

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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #8 on: 12 Dec 2007, 05:55 »

Okay, so you're all going to think I'm beyond retarded, but I must have been suffering from some hardcore stress/delusions because I actually meant to say The Catcher in the Rye, and not the Great Gatsby.
I actually really enjoyed the Great Gatsby. Wow.
I amaze myself.

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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #9 on: 12 Dec 2007, 06:31 »

Well, I find the Great Gatsby to be a pretentious piece of crap.  Catcher in the Rye, though, there's a good book.  Overrated, but definitely good.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #10 on: 12 Dec 2007, 06:38 »

Haha, it's not that the Catcher in the Rye was a bad book, per se.
I just didn't like Salinger's writing style. I felt it could have been written by anybody, and didn't deserve the praise it received.
The story-line itself had potential, but it fell short, in my opinion.
The Great Gatsby is not as deep as Catcher, but the writing is a thousand times better if you ask me, and that made it all the more enjoyable.
Plus, I enjoy pretentious pieces of crap (;

I'm going to have to re-read all of my posts several times now to make sure I'm talking about the right book =x
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #11 on: 12 Dec 2007, 08:12 »

The Catcher in the Rye is overrated. When I read it in high school everyone loved it, but I honestly didn't. It was ok, but I didn't see why so many people thought it was awesome. The Great Gatsby, however, was pretty good.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #12 on: 12 Dec 2007, 09:03 »

The Great Gatsby and The Catcher In The Rye are fantastically realized, brilliantly written works. If you don't like them, go back every five years and try again until you do.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #13 on: 12 Dec 2007, 09:16 »

I don't know if I could ever learn to love Catcher in the Rye, as a whole. Maybe certain scenes.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #14 on: 12 Dec 2007, 11:56 »

See, I really love The Catcher In The Rye.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #15 on: 12 Dec 2007, 12:05 »

       Fuck both of those books. 
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #16 on: 12 Dec 2007, 13:58 »

i enjoyed The Great Gatsby but i struggled to even finish Catcher In The Rye. can't say what i like/dislike about either; i just do/don't.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #17 on: 12 Dec 2007, 15:28 »

Any book with a thinly veiled gay subtext can't be bad. The Great Gatsby is one such book.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #18 on: 12 Dec 2007, 16:23 »

I was all prepared to bash you for not liking The Great Gatsby.  Anyway...Damn you for not giving me the chance to bash you for expressing your opinion.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #19 on: 12 Dec 2007, 16:31 »

You can pretend that you didn't read the other posts and bash me anyway, if you want.
S&M is all sorts of exciting.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #20 on: 12 Dec 2007, 21:01 »

I don't understand how people could dislike either of these books, but I guess to each their own.
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« Reply #21 on: 12 Dec 2007, 21:49 »

Haha, it's not that the Catcher in the Rye was a bad book, per se.
I just didn't like Salinger's writing style. I felt it could have been written by anybody, and didn't deserve the praise it received.

i think that is what made Salinger's book all that more appealing. he wrote it so that no matter who you were you could understand Holden's point of view, or at least make a sympethetic connection with his issues through out the book.
fear of becoming an adult.
the hypocratic "adult world".
that all ties back into the title of the novel itself.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #22 on: 12 Dec 2007, 21:54 »

Hypocratic?  Do you mean hypocritical?  Either way I think that one point is that he is already a self-centred hypocritical asshole and is projecting that onto the rest of the world.
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« Reply #23 on: 12 Dec 2007, 22:01 »

well...yes he does that, but it is more of a self-defense mechanism rather than a conscious decision he is making. he is constntly sheilding himself from the outside world by shrinking back into his fantasy world.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #24 on: 12 Dec 2007, 23:16 »

The core irony of the book is that said self-defense mechanism turns him into exactly the sort of cynical, two-faced asshole he despises.

So good. Such rich subtext. Such fantastic characters.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #25 on: 13 Dec 2007, 04:31 »

Such a shitty ending.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #26 on: 13 Dec 2007, 07:07 »

i agree the ending wasn't the best in my opinion, but it was still a great novel.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #27 on: 13 Dec 2007, 08:47 »

The core irony of the book is that said self-defense mechanism turns him into exactly the sort of cynical, two-faced asshole he despises.

So good. Such rich subtext. Such fantastic characters.

That's the part I hated.  The 'core irony' of the book made me hate the characters.  Of course, I read this as an angsty teenager, and the book was basically about me, so I guess that added even more to my hatred of it.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #28 on: 13 Dec 2007, 09:16 »

I loved The Great Gatsby. We had it assigned for English class and I finished it in one night instead of reading chapter by chapter as assigned for class. The Catcher in the Rye, however, was severely disappointing and I had to push myself to finish it.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #29 on: 13 Dec 2007, 10:28 »

Such a shitty ending.

Man, this thread is a lost cause.
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« Reply #30 on: 13 Dec 2007, 10:29 »

Maybe it's you that is the lost cause. Just sayin'.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #31 on: 13 Dec 2007, 10:30 »

Yep. You've got it.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #32 on: 13 Dec 2007, 11:11 »

Phony.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #33 on: 13 Dec 2007, 11:21 »

I think the thread showed wonderful promise at the begining.  That promise has faded.

What's wrong with the ending?
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #34 on: 13 Dec 2007, 11:54 »

Not climactic enough, I'd wager.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #35 on: 13 Dec 2007, 11:57 »

I guess he could have gone down in a hail of gunfire.
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« Reply #36 on: 13 Dec 2007, 12:01 »

That would have been so much better.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #37 on: 13 Dec 2007, 12:13 »

What's wrong with the ending?

I first thought this was a question about the thread, making us think about where we went wrong.

You know, as if there was some sort of moral we could learn from this.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #38 on: 13 Dec 2007, 13:05 »

What's wrong with the ending?


It was anticlimactic. The scene right before the ending (carousel scene) was one of the best in the book, in my opinion.
And then he ends it with "so yeah. I miss these people now."
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #39 on: 13 Dec 2007, 16:01 »

I suppose you cut Mogwai songs off at the halfway point, too?
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« Reply #40 on: 13 Dec 2007, 16:06 »

Why would I do that? I finished the book, didn't I?
Honestly, this is one of the only books that I was let down by.
I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me, but I'm not going to change my mind.
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« Reply #41 on: 13 Dec 2007, 16:43 »

not to derail this thread, but this book was nowhere near as bad as The Grapes of Wrath. God how i hated that book
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #42 on: 13 Dec 2007, 17:12 »

I haven't read it. What was so awful about it?
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« Reply #43 on: 13 Dec 2007, 17:24 »

the author dragged oout the book. it could have been half as long.
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« Reply #44 on: 13 Dec 2007, 17:47 »

So the core message of the book is that by being a shitty asshole to people he is becoming what he hates, and people are surprised that they make you read this as a teenager?  I only wish they could also make you understand it.
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« Reply #45 on: 13 Dec 2007, 17:53 »

no, i loved the novel.
that was simply about the Grapes of Wrath.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #46 on: 13 Dec 2007, 18:30 »

Estttttt, I'm not saying that the story in itself is bad.
I'm saying I didn't like Salinger's writing style, and it made it difficult for me to enjoy.
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Re: The Great Gatsby
« Reply #47 on: 13 Dec 2007, 19:10 »

Except it's really not Salinger's writing style, it's Caulfield's talking style.

Also, let me get this straight. In this thread we are talking shit about The Catcher In The Rye, The Great Gatsby and The Grapes Of Wrath? Jesus, what does it take to impress you people?
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« Reply #48 on: 13 Dec 2007, 19:28 »

Well not shit, but I mean...apparently it is alot easier to criticize original American pieces of literature than talking about there contibutes to society and the way they record their periods in time.
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« Reply #49 on: 13 Dec 2007, 19:46 »

I liked all three books. DISLIKEME.
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