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Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« on: 12 Dec 2007, 16:59 »

I think I've read some of you kids here enjoy the man's work. Well, you might want to know he's been diagnosed with a rare form of early onset Alzheimer's. He's okay for the time being, but still. It's sad news.

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I would have liked to keep this one quiet for a little while, but because of upcoming conventions and of course the need to keep my publishers informed, it seems to me unfair to withhold the news. I have been diagnosed with a very rare form of early onset Alzheimer's, which lay behind this year's phantom "stroke".

We are taking it fairly philosophically down here and possibly with a mild optimism. For now work is continuing on the completion of Nation and the basic notes are already being laid down for Unseen Academicals. All other things being equal, I expect to meet most current and, as far as possible, future commitments but will discuss things with the various organisers. Frankly, I would prefer it if people kept things cheerful, because I think there's time for at least a few more books yet :o)

Terry Pratchett

PS I would just like to draw attention to everyone reading the above that this should be interpreted as 'I am not dead'. I will, of course, be dead at some future point, as will everybody else. For me, this maybe further off than you think - it's too soon to tell. I know it's a very human thing to say "Is there anything I can do", but in this case I would only entertain offers from very high-end experts in brain chemistry.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #1 on: 12 Dec 2007, 17:11 »

Damn, that sucks, really, really bad. I love Pratchett; I can always count on him to drop at least one line per book that makes reading the thing all worthwhile, even if I wasn't particularly enjoying myself up until that point.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #2 on: 12 Dec 2007, 17:27 »

Terry Pratchett is my God! What the hell? He can't get Alzheimer's! Shit! I actually switched from Protestantism to Omniasm just for him!

Ok, not quite...ok, actually yeah, that bad.

Shit.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #3 on: 12 Dec 2007, 18:42 »

 :cry:
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #4 on: 12 Dec 2007, 18:45 »

I think we'll all miss him but he has left a massive legacy behind and trust him to make light of it. There is a large part of me that thinks this may just be a joke.


I really hope it is.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #5 on: 12 Dec 2007, 19:42 »

I think that, because he's a writer, he'll probably start taking more notes, and use those when he needs help with things.  I've never heard of Alzheimer's affecting someone's wit, and as long as he keeps good notes on all his characters and plots and such(so he doesn't have to flip through all his books), hopefully he'll be able to continue doing what he loves to do.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #6 on: 12 Dec 2007, 20:08 »

NOOOO!

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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #7 on: 12 Dec 2007, 23:12 »



THIS SUCKS
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #9 on: 13 Dec 2007, 03:03 »

I think that, because he's a writer, he'll probably start taking more notes, and use those when he needs help with things.  I've never heard of Alzheimer's affecting someone's wit, and as long as he keeps good notes on all his characters and plots and such(so he doesn't have to flip through all his books), hopefully he'll be able to continue doing what he loves to do.

Hey, if Jean-Dominique Bauby could write a book with locked-in syndrome..
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #10 on: 13 Dec 2007, 04:09 »

Thus begins the end of one of the worlds most prolific writers.   :cry:
And personally I think that would be one of the worst possible things to happen to anyone.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #11 on: 13 Dec 2007, 05:53 »

Man, everyone is getting old.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #12 on: 13 Dec 2007, 05:56 »

Tragedy.  Pure tragedy.

I can't think of very many people who I would trust more to handle it well, though.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #13 on: 13 Dec 2007, 09:17 »

But he's awesome!

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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #14 on: 13 Dec 2007, 09:58 »

I don't get why this one person developing alzheimer's is a tragedy. OK I guess a lot of you like his books (I don't) but that doesn't make this any more important than when normal people who haven't done anything spectacular with their lives develop the same thing. My best friend's grandma has alzheimer's. She didn't know whose funeral she was at last week (it was her husband's). The only reason I can find to be at all upset about this particular turn of events is that someone has developed what is pretty much a really shit condition, the fact that it is Pratchett makes absolutely no difference.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #15 on: 13 Dec 2007, 10:18 »

If you said someone you knew had Alzheimer's (such as your friend's grandmother), we'd say the same things with maybe a few more jokes in poor taste than we did here.  The reason I'm upset about this is because his books and his personality have lent a positive vibe to everyone who's ever read them.  I'm incredibly cynical but books like his keep me from being a bitter person.

My grandmother is showing early signs of Alzheimer's, too.  She keeps thinking that I'm one of my much older cousins, still thinks I'm in high school, and hasn't filed her taxes in 6 years (my grandfather always took care of them and she never learned how or when anyways).  She was always distant, though, so I'm less inclined to be upset that she's forgetting things than Pratchett, which I guess is sort of depressing. 
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #16 on: 13 Dec 2007, 10:24 »

You really answered your own question. It's a shit condition, and it happened to someone who's work has affected some of us. It's just someone we can all relate to. Just because it happened to him doesn't make it special, it just makes it have happened to someone we can know, or are familiar with him.

It was never claimed that it was more important, just that we all think it's sad, because this man has affected our lives.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #17 on: 13 Dec 2007, 10:35 »

Yeah dude my grandma has Alzheimer's and it sucks.

Terry Pratchett having Alzheimer's sucks.

If Dick Cheney woke up tomorrow with Alzheimer's, that would suck.

Alzheimer's sucks.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #18 on: 13 Dec 2007, 11:11 »

He'd be in for a treat when he's told for the 13th time that he shot his friend in the face.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #19 on: 13 Dec 2007, 11:56 »


I can't think of very many people who I would trust more to handle it well, though.

Very very true.

P.S. I disagree with Jimmy because honestly, Pratchett has, in all likelihood, brought a lot more joy to a lot more people than your friend's grandma. No offense, but not all people are equal in value.

P.P.S. Dick Cheney with Alzheimer's would be hilarious.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #20 on: 13 Dec 2007, 13:41 »

I don't think this is the place to discuss the utilitarian worth of different people. Let's just drop it, eh?
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #21 on: 13 Dec 2007, 13:45 »

You kind of proved my point just there- if you took a 'who is worth more' poll, Terry Pratchett would have a significant lead for about 99% of everyone ever because he is a prolific and well-enjoyed author, whereas grandma probably made great cookies and smelled nice. Does she have less right to live or less right not to be stricken with alzheimers? No. In practicality, would most people prefer that, of the two, Pratchett stayed lucid? Yes.

Fact: this is a stupid argument.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #22 on: 13 Dec 2007, 16:00 »

grandma probably made great cookies and smelled nice

Maybe grandma donated yearly to charities and as a result of her efforts one person got to live on a little longer.

Yo know, you're right. This is a stupid argument.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #23 on: 13 Dec 2007, 17:52 »

Yeah, nobody's gonna win this. I think we all know what we mean, and we're merely arguing semantics at this point. In Casull's defense, what he said was just poorly worded, but not malicious.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #24 on: 13 Dec 2007, 19:46 »

I'm just awed by the deftness of the trolling that started the whole thing.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #25 on: 13 Dec 2007, 19:57 »

The shitty part about all of this is that Alzheimer's isn't just a part of growing older. It is a disease, and we know how to cure it. The problem is that we have no idea how to engineer the drug that will do it.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #26 on: 13 Dec 2007, 20:16 »

Yeah dude my grandma has Alzheimer's and it sucks.

Terry Pratchett having Alzheimer's sucks.

If Dick Cheney woke up tomorrow with Alzheimer's, that would suck.

Alzheimer's sucks.


This is the best post in this thread! Do not be a shit for a head if somebody feels bad about another persons misfortune, just because other people may be having just as much, or more misfortune than the first person!

Dick Cheney having Alzheimers would suck, but I would not care until I found out about it! It is hard to care from within my blissful ignorance! Do not make me feel like a jerk for not knowing about an individuals misfortune! It is not nice!

We all should learn that we can't know about everybody's problems, but it is still special when we do! Don't try to take the specialness by being a shit for a head.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #27 on: 14 Dec 2007, 09:39 »

casull: To clarify; I guess I was just caught off-guard by your phrasing, I read it in a wrong way. I suppose that's what I get from trolling the WoW forums too much. Sorry.

Oh man I totally remember that feeling from my WoW days... I've learned to let my defenses down a bit around here :P
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #28 on: 15 Dec 2007, 04:45 »

A deterioration in Terry Pratchett's mind and writing ability is a tragedy for the same reason that a fire in a museum is a tragedy, and by the same token, it would be equally valid to object to calling a museum fire a tragedy without paying the same special attention to a fire that happens in someone's home.

Like a museum, Terry Pratchett's mind is a resource of distinctly creative thought and expression to which a very large number of people are exposed, presenting a significant proportion of the world with opportunities to enrich their own minds and therefore their own lives.  Since the same cannot generally be said of the average residence or the average person, the word "tragedy" can be used to signify the exceptional circumstances surrounding the destruction of something like a museum or Terry Pratchett's mind.

When it gets right down to it, though, if "tragedy" is used in this way, the word is really only meaningful in terms of these exceptional circumstances surrounding the event, not the event itself.  If the emphasis felt when reading or hearing a word like "tragedy" extends into a value judgment of the event itself and those directly involved, the word has been misinterpreted (which is easy and understandable considering the number of connotations that can be attached to it).

In conclusion, Alzheimer's sucks.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #29 on: 15 Dec 2007, 05:17 »

But you see, tragedy is subjective. I assure you, you would be more distraught were your house to burn down than, say, the Uffizi Gallery or the Library of Congress. People tend to respond to personal tragedy on a completely different level because it is more acute.

You would have the reaction of any human being. Self-pity, fear, anxiety. Whereas towards a museum fire you might feel a dulled, vague, undirected distress.

The point being, no matter how honest and well-meaning your example is, you will never convince someone that their grandmother is less important than Terry Pratchett based on the fact that she probably never wrote an expansive series of science fiction novels (or any other fact, for that matter).

While I understand and, to an extent, agree with your point, I see less harm in dropping the argument entirely and focusing on the author's ailment.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #30 on: 15 Dec 2007, 10:56 »

Man it is a weird attitude that says, "eh, this person is worth more than that person."
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #31 on: 15 Dec 2007, 11:46 »

::grin:: You just agreed with me.  I was pointing out that the word "tragedy" was only useful as a means of distinguishing Terry Pratchett's illness from my hypothetical grandmother's illness *by referencing the different circumstances of each,* namely, that losing Terry Pratchett means losing a more widely-available resource.  In other words, saying that Terry Pratchett's illness is a "tragedy" is not at all saying that he is a more important or more valuable person than my grandmother, but rather that the impact of his impending loss will spread over more individuals, this being the extent of the distinction and the only reason why the word "tragedy" is being used.  There's a significant difference and I specifically pointed out that it doesn't extend into a value judgment of any kind.

I really need to not enjoy arguing semantics as much as I do.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #32 on: 15 Dec 2007, 15:38 »

I'm pretty sure he doesn't think of it as a tragedy.  He probably thinks he gets to start taking Dried Frog Pills soon.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #33 on: 16 Dec 2007, 06:56 »

Guys, in the future, take the arguments into a new thread. As it is, this thread - which started as a expression of sadness over a well-loved author's illness - has been taken over by an unrelated discussion of abstractions and ill-defined vocabulary. Pretty shitty boarding, people.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #34 on: 16 Dec 2007, 18:26 »

It's a damn shame, but people still have a few more good years in them after being diagnosed with Alzheimer's. It's a horrible and debilitating disease, but we shouldn't count him out yet.

Ravel wrote Bolero in the middle to late stages of Pick's Disease, a disorder that presents similarly. I'm going to hold out hope.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #35 on: 16 Dec 2007, 18:39 »

Actually, it's good to hold out hope for these kinds of things, because Alzheimer's can go on for a while.
I hope, that for the sake of all those diagnosed, that a cure can be created eventually. To know what causes something is one thing. To know how to stop it is another. To know exactly what needs to be done to stop it is amazing, but it's taunting as hell when you don't have the technology to create the cure that needs to be made.
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Re: Terry Pratchett has Alzheimer's
« Reply #36 on: 16 Dec 2007, 22:53 »

If only Corecktall was real..
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