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I'm moving, I think.
« on: 02 Jan 2008, 21:44 »

I'm thinking of moving to the UK and am seeking some advice on the topic.

My questions are as follows:

-Which areas are worth reading into?
-How much money should I be saving to make this move?
-What are some big cultural differences? (I figure I should get an opinion from someone who actually knows seeing how my only means of education is google.)


I'm sure I have other questions but I can't remember them. I've done a bit of research but I'm still a bit cloudy on a few things. Any help or advice would really be appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: I'm moving, I think.
« Reply #1 on: 02 Jan 2008, 21:45 »

The spelling is all wacky in the UK. 
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« Reply #2 on: 02 Jan 2008, 21:47 »

They think that grilling things from above isn't completely ridiculous.
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« Reply #3 on: 02 Jan 2008, 21:51 »

What's ridiculous about it? How else do you possibly grill something?

Oh, they typically smoke a lot more than your average person can get used to, but I guess this depends on where you are living right now.
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« Reply #4 on: 02 Jan 2008, 22:03 »

illinois...
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Re: I'm moving, I think.
« Reply #5 on: 02 Jan 2008, 22:12 »

Where in Illinois?
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Re: I'm moving, I think.
« Reply #6 on: 02 Jan 2008, 22:14 »

about 45 minutes south of chicago in a town called manteno.
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Re: I'm moving, I think.
« Reply #7 on: 02 Jan 2008, 22:23 »

Property in the UK is stupidly expensive, so if you're planning on living somewhere, take lots of money. Yeah, even if you'll just be renting.
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« Reply #8 on: 02 Jan 2008, 22:27 »

I sort of figured as much. Rent is payed per week, is it not?
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« Reply #9 on: 02 Jan 2008, 22:28 »

...Sorry, but I'm a little confused.
If you don't know anything about the UK why do you want to move there?
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« Reply #10 on: 02 Jan 2008, 22:31 »

It's somewhere I've always been interested in living. I've done a bit of research but I'd like a little more information from people who know it first hand. I certainly don't want to live in Shit town, USA my entire life either.
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« Reply #11 on: 02 Jan 2008, 22:37 »

The spelling is all wacky in the US. 

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« Reply #12 on: 02 Jan 2008, 22:39 »

The spelling is all wackuy in the UK. 

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« Reply #13 on: 02 Jan 2008, 22:50 »

spelling, shmelling.
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« Reply #14 on: 02 Jan 2008, 23:00 »

Their desserts are wierd.

Exhibit A:

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« Reply #15 on: 02 Jan 2008, 23:05 »

is that dolphin safe?
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« Reply #16 on: 02 Jan 2008, 23:14 »

Their desserts are weird.

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And yeah, they are. Brawn anyone?

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« Reply #17 on: 02 Jan 2008, 23:15 »

Spotted Dick is the least dolphin-safe thing in the entire world.
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« Reply #18 on: 02 Jan 2008, 23:34 »

Is... is that ham?
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« Reply #19 on: 02 Jan 2008, 23:36 »

Swing and a miss.
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« Reply #20 on: 02 Jan 2008, 23:54 »

(People rarely answer questions seriously here. Yeesh).

Eh, moving to the UK is silly, after Illinois.

Why move somewhere you can never ever be a citizen? And that has shit weather? And where the people pronounce "shit" as "shite"? And they call car trunks "boots"?

I say research the States a bit more before hopping across The Pond. Pick a state that has a coast line. We have much better food, that's for DAMN sure. mmmmm.. Mexican food.

If you super dooper want to move to the UK, go look at prices as far as living under a roof. Then try to secure a job before going. Then sit down and figure out if you'd be able to afford a living space with what they're going to pay you. Once you realize that's hopeless, don't give up hope on leaving Shit Town, USA. There are a lot of Less Shitty Towns here in the US, yannow. There are even cities.
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« Reply #21 on: 03 Jan 2008, 00:00 »

Steer clear of London and all surrounding areas (the "Home Counties"). There are some lovely places in that part of England, but there are too many people there and 90% of them are arseholes. If it weren't for family obligations whenever I visit the U.K. I'd never go south of Herefordshire (which is beautiful).
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« Reply #22 on: 03 Jan 2008, 00:46 »

Swing and a miss.

Google says it's headcheese. Close enough for me. My point was pork shouldn't be for dessert.
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« Reply #23 on: 03 Jan 2008, 00:48 »

I wasn't offering you desert, I was showing everyone a traditional English lunch meat.
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« Reply #24 on: 03 Jan 2008, 00:56 »

And that has shit weather?

I say research the States a bit more before hopping across The Pond. Pick a state that has a coast line. We have much better food, that's for DAMN sure. mmmmm.. Mexican food.

The weather is temperate which means where I live, at least, we get 6-7 months of really nice weather.

It's true there's actually an embargo on good food in the UK. We've been living off sheep brains for the past 6 years.
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« Reply #25 on: 03 Jan 2008, 01:23 »

I'm a spoiled brat. We get 12 months of smiley good time weather. Never drops below freezing, unless there's some sort of freak storm of doom.

Gets a little boring though, I'll give you that. And we get earthquakes every decade or two.
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« Reply #26 on: 03 Jan 2008, 03:05 »

Yeah, just move to a non-shitty part of the US. Probably much less of a hassle than trying to immigrate.
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« Reply #27 on: 03 Jan 2008, 03:07 »

Or emigrate.
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« Reply #28 on: 03 Jan 2008, 04:47 »

Steer clear of London and all surrounding areas (the "Home Counties"). There are some lovely places in that part of England, but there are too many people there and 90% of them are arseholes. If it weren't for family obligations whenever I visit the U.K. I'd never go south of Herefordshire (which is beautiful).

The Home Counties aren't that bad, they're just so expensive that the rent or a mortgage can render most people completely skint.
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« Reply #29 on: 03 Jan 2008, 05:07 »

Man, you guys have no sense of adventure do you?

Just to clear a few things up:

Nobody here eats spotted dick and I've never even heard of brawn. Curry is our national dish.
I'm damn sure you can become a citizen (were you thinking of Germany perhaps? I think it is nearly impossible there although I could be wrong).
The weather isn't all that bad.
'Shite' is an excellent word.
Yes, it's expensive to live here, but if you steer clear of London and the Home Counties then you'll be alright. For one thing they're expensive, and also the South is a rubbish cultural backwater with no style or sophistication.
Basically, your big problem will be: why should the UK government let you work in the country? Do you have a specific trade? Are you planning to study (this is probably the easiest way to get a visa). If you were just planning to move over here and take a minimum-wage job then I don't rate your chances of getting a work visa too highly.
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« Reply #30 on: 03 Jan 2008, 05:12 »

Not all the south is bad. London is ok, just busy and crowded and expensive. I live in Brighton which yes, is expensive but is also fucking amazing. Other than that I'd suggest Edinburgh, or Manchester. Maybe Bristol.
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« Reply #31 on: 03 Jan 2008, 05:15 »

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« Reply #32 on: 03 Jan 2008, 06:23 »

I'm aware of the cities in America, of course. I didn't say I was cultureless, I just implied that the town I live in sucks. I plan on studying art if I move to the UK. Also, I'm already working at a license for hairdressing (which I'm actually quite good at and could potentially make me a lot of money). I haven't finished school or saved enough money for my future plans yet, but I'll get there...slowly.
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« Reply #33 on: 03 Jan 2008, 06:25 »

I'm thinking of moving to the UK and am seeking some advice on the topic.

Where do you imply this? Because this looks a lot like you're saying you just want to move to another country...
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« Reply #34 on: 03 Jan 2008, 06:28 »

There's an art school here! Only 340 a month for my room!
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« Reply #35 on: 03 Jan 2008, 06:43 »

Whatever you do, you definitely shouldn't move to Chicago to go to art school. You might have me as a teacher.  :-o

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« Reply #37 on: 03 Jan 2008, 07:27 »

Lincoln and Derbyshire are beautiful places, I'd probably avoid Northern cities (and probably cities altogether) if you want to see anything other than commercial shops and crowds. A lot of English people don't take too kindly to Americans acting overly loud or boisterous so i'd probably try keep that to a minimum lest you care to be known as "that American kid" no matter how long you live here. British food isn't too bad, and if you don't like it you don't have to eat it. You can always eat Indian/m
Mexican/Chinese etc. Again, i don't know anyone that eats spotted dick and i have no idea what the other image is supposed to be of. You should also probably forget about british stereotype completely, we don't drink tea with the queen and we don't have bad teeth. Forget the word "British", i don't know anyone who would like to be referred to as British.  
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« Reply #38 on: 03 Jan 2008, 08:17 »

Southern England isn't bad. Hampshire's a nice place to live, i've been here 18 years and I have no problem with it. Depends how far south you go really. You don't want to go to that South-East.South-West is much better. I'd also avoid too far North, Manchester and Liverpool have funny accents you can laugh at, but I can't see much else appealing there.

As far as food goes, you can't beat a good chippy or roast beef.
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« Reply #39 on: 03 Jan 2008, 08:22 »

I think the concerns brought up about jobs/visas/living expenses/housing are probably going to be the biggest ones you have to deal with when you move.  With the Dollar as it is now the money you hoard to go over there and get you started will probably get you not that much once it's converted into Pounds.  So it sounds to me like having a job lined up before you go would be pretty important since your savings won't last you long.  Also there's the Visa thing.  Right now if I remember right British real estate is even pricier than it is over here (based on household income, if I recall), so you'd probably want to move to a place where you can find work but the rents won't be out of reach (so, as far as I can tell, not London).  'Course, London is so pricey partly because it has so many jobs so finding one might be a bit harder in another town.
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« Reply #40 on: 03 Jan 2008, 08:29 »

Did people just insult Leeds? Somebody hold my coat, them's fighting words! Nothing but commercial shops? I'll have you know we have one of the best preserved Cistercian abbeys in the UK and one of the best autonomous social centres. So nyer. London is horrifically expensive not really because of the amount of jobs but because so many people want to live there prices get driven up. Unless you have a lot of money or a good job lined up, avoid it. It does actually have a lot of cool stuff going on it though, my comments about the South in general before were somewhat flippant (in case you can't guess, in the UK the North looks down on the South and vice versa, although often not in too serious a manner. The South is a lot more expensive in general though).

If you're thinking of going to art school, then you want to go here:


Glasgow School Of Art. It was designed by Rennie Mackintosh. Nuff said. Plus, Glasgow is a really nice city to live in, very friendly people and one of the best art scenes in the country.
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« Reply #41 on: 03 Jan 2008, 08:31 »

I'm damn sure you can become a citizen (were you thinking of Germany perhaps? I think it is nearly impossible there although I could be wrong).

Not impossible, but you just have to live there for eight years before you can even apply. So kind of a pain in the behind, if you will.
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« Reply #42 on: 03 Jan 2008, 08:49 »

True, and I very much wish it was easier for people to go and live where they'd like to. Still, I doubt there are many countries where gaining citizenship is a terribly easy process.
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« Reply #43 on: 03 Jan 2008, 10:28 »

There's an art school here! Only 340 a month for my room!

For the OP's benefit, that's $26,941.73 US.
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« Reply #44 on: 03 Jan 2008, 10:32 »

(People rarely answer questions seriously here. Yeesh).

Eh, moving to the UK is silly, after Illinois.

Why move somewhere you can never ever be a citizen? And that has shit weather? And where the people pronounce "shit" as "shite"? And they call car trunks "boots"?

I say research the States a bit more before hopping across The Pond. Pick a state that has a coast line. We have much better food, that's for DAMN sure. mmmmm.. Mexican food.

If you super dooper want to move to the UK, go look at prices as far as living under a roof. Then try to secure a job before going. Then sit down and figure out if you'd be able to afford a living space with what they're going to pay you. Once you realize that's hopeless, don't give up hope on leaving Shit Town, USA. There are a lot of Less Shitty Towns here in the US, yannow. There are even cities.

i completely agree. you live in the midwest... no wonder you think america sucks! (i lived in michigan up until a few months ago. now i live in california permanently and arizona temporarily for work). move somewhere else in the US first. choose a direction east or west and go until you hit ocean. hell, try moving there with no job even. you could be really adventurous and just start driving somewhere without even a place to live figured out yet. a friend of mine recently moved to LA from michigan with no job and no place to stay... i can't even imagine. find out how difficult it is to do it in your own country, then consider doing it in another country where you won't be a citizen and people might be more likely to discriminate against you when it comes to getting jobs, even minimum wage ones.

you say you want to go to art school in the UK... do you know anything about how tuition works over there? i'm not sure myself, but you have to know that in the US people that aren't citizens, even people that aren't residents in the state where the school is, pay a hell of a lot more in tuition than citizens and residents. find out what kind of criteria for citizenship and residency they have for university tuition, or what the costs are in general. you may be able to afford a flat in the UK, but can you also afford the tuition?

if you want to move to the UK, awesome. barring nuclear disaster and the polar ice caps melting, the UK will still be there after you've gotten your degree and have some kind of marketable skill that can get you a job over there. some patience and some intelligence about this now will save you a lot of trouble later.
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« Reply #45 on: 03 Jan 2008, 11:11 »

save up for at least 6 months and a plane tickey back if it doesnt' work out! then go and live off the savings until you find a job/get tired of england and move to somewhere better, like paris
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« Reply #46 on: 03 Jan 2008, 11:23 »

do you have any idea how depressed you are going to feel when you convert your dollars into pounds?!  and then realize that the pound, although it is worth twice as much as the dollar, will only buy you half as much as the dollar does?!  england does not make any sense!

i kind of wish people would stop posting boards about advice for moving to other countries.  it seems really silly and pointless to me.
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« Reply #47 on: 03 Jan 2008, 12:50 »

I would not advise moving to the UK right now.

Pick a new State, move there. Stay away from the UK. There's a lot of serious problems here right now. Don't get involved unless you have to.
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« Reply #48 on: 03 Jan 2008, 13:03 »

Gordon Brown?
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« Reply #49 on: 03 Jan 2008, 13:16 »

Not really.

I actually think all of the problems the UK faces have their roots before most of the politicians of this era were even alive.
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