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what is your fave out of my fave mainstream bands?

the beatles
- 37 (44.6%)
led zeppelin
- 12 (14.5%)
Rush
- 7 (8.4%)
tool
- 8 (9.6%)
pink floyd
- 19 (22.9%)

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« Reply #50 on: 27 Jan 2008, 18:00 »

Marilyn Manson made at least two albums I enjoyed.
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« Reply #51 on: 27 Jan 2008, 18:05 »

Where's the option for "none of them"?  Or at least Judas Priest?
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« Reply #53 on: 27 Jan 2008, 18:11 »

You can dump on Rush all you want guys, but they helped give birth to prog rock and you know it.

Rush is R&B guys, not prog rock.

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« Reply #54 on: 27 Jan 2008, 18:19 »

Marilyn Manson made at least two albums I enjoyed.

Which ones? A lot of people seem to like everything up to Mechanical Animals. What I can't quite stand is MM's continued attempts to be David Bowie. It's a lot like watching My Chemical Romance trying to be Queen. It doesn't help that Chuck Klosterman seems to actually take this comparison seriously.

I get a good kick out of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers every once in awhile.
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« Reply #55 on: 27 Jan 2008, 18:37 »

I thought Antichrist Superstar and Mechanical Animals were both very solid albums.

I seem to remember even liking Holy Wood the one or two times I listened to it.

Haven't heard anything he's done since then, but I've heard it goes way downhill from there.
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« Reply #56 on: 27 Jan 2008, 18:48 »

I've a fancy for NIN and MM both.  NIN I like...most of, not a completist fanboy who has all the "Halos" but that said I'm only missing a few. Marilyn Manson I like pretty much all of until Holy Wood, and then I like certain songs off that and the next album.  The latest, Eat Me, Drink Me is laughable even by his standards.

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« Reply #57 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:02 »

Yeah, I almost sort of liked Mechanical Animals. Antichrist Superstar I felt was a bit too sludgy for my tastes (much in the same way The Downward Spiral was) The consensus seems to be that after the failure of Holy Wood he kept trying to remake MA over and over again, a couple of times with that guy from KMFDM. The last one even tried at the new wave craze, which seemed to alienate even more people.

Anyway, I'm annoyed at him presently because he eliminated any chance of a Goon Moon tour by recruiting Twiggy back and he continues to prevent Chris Vrenna from making Tweaker records (they weren't bad, they weren't exactly good, but they had a spacey-ness to them I liked)

And besides, unless it's the 70s and you're David Bowie / Iggy Pop, you should not shave your eyebrows.

I've a fancy for NIN and MM both.  NIN I like...most of, not a completist fanboy who has all the "Halos" but that said I'm only missing a few. Marilyn Manson I like pretty much all of until Holy Wood, and then I like certain songs off that and the next album.  The latest, Eat Me, Drink Me is laughable even by his standards.
Most of the NIN singles and remix albums sucked. The exceptions being the Peter Christopherson / Danny Hyde work on the Broken and TDS remix albums. And the Aphex Twin stuff, of course.
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« Reply #58 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:12 »

NIN remix albums I have and actually enjoy: Fixed, Closer to God, Every Day Is Exactly the Same, Further Down the Spiral. And I have a UK import of the Head Like a Hole Single because some of the versions, (Opal) in particular, are more interesting than the album edit.  Oh, and The Perfect Drug Versions.

But pretty much all of them are hit and miss.

Also, you like NIN but not TDS? wtf.

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« Reply #59 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:18 »

I can admit to liking NIN; he has some fun beats and the production is consistently buffed to a glossy shine that suits things perfectly. Plus, I'm inherently incapable of taking music at face value so the lyrics don't bother me much since I always figured he was being about as sincere as Peter Steele.
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« Reply #60 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:19 »

I like the more propulsive songs contained in the first half of the record, but the concept doesn't work for me and I don't care for the back half. "Big Man With a Gun" is just embarrassing. I much prefer the Fragile, even if it could use with less bloat.

What about Metallica? Does anybody think they can make another good album? They're currently on my shitlist for making randomized Rock Band playlists annoying. Although I suppose it's my own fault for downloading their song pack.
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« Reply #61 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:21 »

Are you fucking kidding me?  Fixed is by far the best, and most truly industrial, thing to ever be associated with Trent Reznor, and the work that Foetus did on it was nothing less than fantastic.

Man, someone should put that EP in the Mediafire thread because I haven't seen a copy in a store in forever.
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« Reply #62 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:22 »

I believe that Metallica should just give up already. They're getting worse and worse - without the influence of Mustaine or Burton they just can't produce anything worthwhile.
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« Reply #63 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:22 »

Hey, I liked Fixed. I'll see if I can't dig it up.
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« Reply #64 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:28 »

Wait wait wait, Metallica on a shitlist just for videogame stuff?  What about this whole internet thing?


Also, I'm listening to the Beatles atm, so...


And, if solo Beatles count, All Things Must Pass is way way up there for Best. Album. Ever.
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« Reply #65 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:34 »

NIN and Manson are both singles artists for me. A few good, fun tracks out of each of them, but I can't remember the last time I listened to a whole album of eithers work.

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« Reply #66 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:37 »

My mother doesn't know who Radiohead, The Killers, Interpol, Bright Eyes, or anything like that is.

So that definition fails.  Hard.

(My mother listens to Rascall Flatts.)
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« Reply #67 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:40 »

My mums an old goth. What do I do?

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« Reply #68 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:44 »

Man, someone should put that EP in the Mediafire thread because I haven't seen a copy in a store in forever.

I've got it on this comp, but the quality and relative volume are inconsistent. Some prick stole my copy two years ago and I had to retrieve it piecemeal.

to KVP: I can understand what you're saying about TDS, but don't agree (obv).  I even like "Big Man With Gun" provided it's within the context of the album.  
Also: Yes! I am glad someone else likes the Fragile.  I've heard tell of its bloatedness from other people, but not when actually listening to the record myself.  He cut so much from it to get it down to two discs, too; I'd pay for a compilation of those outtakes.  The only thing that brings it down is Starfuckers, because as far as I'm concerned that is the most bewilderingly out of place piece of shit he's ever written. It's excised from my playlist of the album.  

And I thought everyone gave up on Metallica after ...And Justice for All, and by that I mean after it, not including. That's a damn fine album.

Edit: My mom listens to Belle & Sebastian, Spoon, Shout Out Louds, Asobi Seksu and Andrew Bird. It's kind of exciting.
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« Reply #69 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:56 »

A good number of Fragile outtakes made it onto that Saul Williams album that our Zerodrone loathes so passionately. I really liked them, even if the vocals got in the way. It's my hope that one of these days Reznor makes the instrumental tracks available, like he has with Year Zero and TDS. It doesn't look like he'll get The Fragile out in instrumental form, which is a shame.

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« Reply #70 on: 27 Jan 2008, 19:57 »

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« Reply #71 on: 27 Jan 2008, 20:08 »

I like the "quiet" disc of The Fragile.

I haven't felt compelled to listen to The Downward Spiral since about a year after it came out.  Maybe it was because I was kind of a snob about my industrial music back then combined with what are, in retrospect, just plain stupid lyrics.
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« Reply #72 on: 27 Jan 2008, 20:14 »

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« Reply #73 on: 27 Jan 2008, 20:15 »

Never until I was told they were stupid did I really think to criticize Trent Reznor's lyrics. Something about NIN's role in my childhood must have prevented me from thinking about them.

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« Reply #74 on: 27 Jan 2008, 20:17 »

(all their pre-Dark Side albums after Barret left, particularly all of Meddle and Wish You Were Here save the singles) or just kinda silly and arguably juvenile (the Wall).

...those singles being... 'Money,' that being the only single they released between 1968 and 1979?

As for NIN, I'd say NIN count as the modern era Pink Floyd - actually that's a lie. What I really mean is that The Fragile is the 1990s Wall.
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« Reply #75 on: 27 Jan 2008, 20:39 »

I must say that after hanging around on an 'elitist' metal forum you guys are not elitist in the slightest.

I never really got why people seem to think that metal is an elitist culture tbh.
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« Reply #76 on: 27 Jan 2008, 20:52 »

I never really got why people seem to think that metal is an elitist culture tbh.

A couple months ago:

Me:  (Calls up a local metal show on the college station)  "Can you play some Boris, Pelican, or Isis?"
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« Reply #77 on: 27 Jan 2008, 20:55 »

It's funny how people think themselves somehow cool or different for not being into the bands listed in that poll (I'm not very big into Tool. Or Rush, apart from YYZ, but hey.)

Whether you like it or not, without Floyd, The Beatles and Zeppelin, none of "your" music would exist. Each one of those bands accomplished more in each one of their albums individually than any indie artist nowadays accomplishes in a lifetime of work. And I love Indie. But it's just a fact. Deal with it.
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« Reply #78 on: 27 Jan 2008, 20:59 »

Up on your high horse, ain't you?

And I don't know, I'd be surprised if Boris didn't develop outside the influence of Zeppelin or Floyd.
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« Reply #79 on: 27 Jan 2008, 21:10 »

I must say that after hanging around on an 'elitist' metal forum you guys are not elitist in the slightest.

I never really got why people seem to think that metal is an elitist culture tbh.

It depends how far into it you get. There are some pretty hardcore elitist black metal (or whatever, it happens it pretty much any genre) listeners out there, who hate everything that has more than say a thousand listeners, or call anything that has any kind of other influence than pure metal 'sold out'.

But generally we're just elitist towards metalcore and nu metal, lol.
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« Reply #80 on: 27 Jan 2008, 21:20 »

It's funny how people think themselves somehow cool or different for not being into the bands listed in that poll (I'm not very big into Tool. Or Rush, apart from YYZ, but hey.)

Whether you like it or not, without Floyd, The Beatles and Zeppelin, none of "your" music would exist. Each one of those bands accomplished more in each one of their albums individually than any indie artist nowadays accomplishes in a lifetime of work. And I love Indie. But it's just a fact. Deal with it.

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« Reply #81 on: 27 Jan 2008, 22:03 »

hey, is it just me, or more and more threads devoted to causing/encoraging flamewars popping up now?

i mean that seems to be the entire point here.  its like if i posted "I hate Nintendo" in the games forum.  the only purpose that serves is to piss people off, and im seeing a fair bit of it here
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« Reply #82 on: 27 Jan 2008, 22:06 »

A couple months ago:

Me:  (Calls up a local metal show on the college station)  "Can you play some Boris, Pelican, or Isis?"
DJ: "I don't play any of that arty shit."



That isn't as elitist as it is stubborn, stupid and close-minded.
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« Reply #83 on: 27 Jan 2008, 22:24 »

What is elitism to you if not stubborn, stupid and close-minded?

Also, on a lighter note, revisiting great / awful prog album covers with the AV Club.
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« Reply #84 on: 27 Jan 2008, 23:06 »

Each one of those bands accomplished more in each one of their albums individually than any indie artist nowadays accomplishes in a lifetime of work.

No band is untouchable.

Famously, this board decided two years ago that Joy Division was superior to The Beatles. There aren't a lot of sacred cows here.
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« Reply #85 on: 28 Jan 2008, 00:11 »

What is elitism to you if not stubborn, stupid and close-minded?

Good, honest, true elitism is well informed, considered and open-minded.

It's like actually listening to MCR and reading their lyrics before declaring that they're shit, for example.
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« Reply #86 on: 28 Jan 2008, 00:12 »

I like New Order better than Joy Division! true story!


anyway, let's see. I really like the Beatles and will make no attempt to talk about that.


Led Zeppelin, I really love the first two albums, almost back to back. Zeppelin at that point was just really 4 guys who rocked the fuck out, stoner worship and songs about bilbo would come later. III is neat but also kind of patchy. Physical Graffitti is probably the best album they ever did though. The other albums i can live without ever listening to.


Pink Floyd, I also really like some of their stuff. Piper... and associated singles are all quite neat but really sound nothing like the rest of the stuff. I especially like the period that involved making longass songs, specially Meddle, although the OST for More is also quite neat! DSOTM i used to love but now i am not really keen on it, overplayed by me i think. WYWH is neat but has stuff i don't care about and then the rest were all just overwrought shit.


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« Reply #87 on: 28 Jan 2008, 01:23 »

When I bought Dark Side of the Moon, at first I thought the CD was broken because I didn't hear anything for the first 30-40 seconds. I hadn't been looking for it specifically, so I didn't know about the heartbeat intro thing.

Modern Mainstream? I have to admit that I have a bit of a soft spot for Alter Bridge, yes, it is the musicians of Creed with a different singer, but it seems like the guitarist at least is trying to get better. And Velvet Revolver is good too. No disagreement shall be allowed, enforced by flying biker monkeys.
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« Reply #88 on: 28 Jan 2008, 02:54 »

Deciding that Joy Division is better than the Beatles isn't all that radical.

Deciding that the Olivia Tremor Control is better than the Beatles, now, that might be a little more interesting.
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« Reply #89 on: 28 Jan 2008, 04:34 »

It's funny how people think themselves somehow cool or different for not being into the bands listed in that poll (I'm not very big into Tool. Or Rush, apart from YYZ, but hey.)

Whether you like it or not, without Floyd, The Beatles and Zeppelin, none of "your" music would exist. Each one of those bands accomplished more in each one of their albums individually than any indie artist nowadays accomplishes in a lifetime of work. And I love Indie. But it's just a fact. Deal with it.
Why does it matter how much a band has accomplished? If their music is shitty there's no reason to like it.
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« Reply #90 on: 28 Jan 2008, 06:22 »

I dunno, Velvet Revolver just isn't doing it for me, although I haven't really heard anything but their singles. I wouldn't call them bad, by any means, they just can't really command my undivided attention, which isn't a great sign considering they ostensibly exist to rock out.
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« Reply #91 on: 28 Jan 2008, 06:25 »

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« Reply #92 on: 28 Jan 2008, 06:39 »

Each one of those bands accomplished more in each one of their albums individually than any indie artist nowadays accomplishes in a lifetime of work. And I love Indie. But it's just a fact. Deal with it.

Uh, no. That by definition is NOT a fact, it is a subjective value judgement.

I suggest you lurk moar before trying to argue with the grownups.
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Re: mainstream bands
« Reply #93 on: 28 Jan 2008, 06:42 »

Deciding that the Olivia Tremor Control is better than the Beatles, now, that might be a little more interesting.

I guess I'm pretty interesting, then  :-P
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« Reply #94 on: 28 Jan 2008, 06:43 »

so liking mainstream bands is ok, thats fine by me, since I like alot mainstream bands.
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« Reply #95 on: 28 Jan 2008, 06:47 »

I guess I'm pretty interesting, then  :-P

No, I agree that Olivia Tremor Control is more enjoyable than the Beatles, but there are people who have this crazy idea that it's impossible to think the band that "did it first" is worse than the band who "came along and did it better".

Now I will say something controversial that I honestly believe!

She Wants Revenge are more enjoyable than New Order.
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Re: mainstream bands
« Reply #96 on: 28 Jan 2008, 07:27 »

The bolded white symbolises all the crack he's smoking.
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Re: mainstream bands
« Reply #97 on: 28 Jan 2008, 07:33 »

It's funny how people think themselves somehow cool or different for not being into the bands listed in that poll (I'm not very big into Tool. Or Rush, apart from YYZ, but hey.)

Whether you like it or not, without Floyd, The Beatles and Zeppelin, none of "your" music would exist. Each one of those bands accomplished more in each one of their albums individually than any indie artist nowadays accomplishes in a lifetime of work. And I love Indie. But it's just a fact. Deal with it.

Bro, did you actually read the damn thread?
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« Reply #98 on: 28 Jan 2008, 07:45 »

Something possibly controversial that I really believe:

None of the op's favourite bands are as enjoyable as Fleetwood Mac.
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Re: mainstream bands
« Reply #99 on: 28 Jan 2008, 08:05 »

Also, Rush suck something fierce this century. 

I remember about four years ago, I'd run by the music store and was chatting with a friend of mine when somebody comes in from the radio station or the promoters with a stack of Rush tickets to give away.  I think the number was 60, but it could have been just fiftyodd.  I took 4 because I'd go, and *surely* I could find 3 friends that wanted to go to a free concert.  I mean, yeah, Rush were always kinda nerdy and Geddy sings girlier than a girl, but they can play, right?  Well, all my friends are busy, but one friend knows some kid who digs the band, so I call him up and he's like, -Hell, yeah, free Rush!

So we get to the show, and it's okay.  And then it gets to be ooo kaaay.  And then we're turning to each other like, wow, they don't have it anymore.  Complete agreement with the whole crowd, no one seems to be having any fun at all.  I make the suggestion that we leave during 'Natural Order', and we're on the highway before they're done with the song (it doesn't hurt that it's ten minutes long).  We'd barely stayed an hour of what I later heard was a two hour and a half show.  And 'Natural Order' was my favorite Rush song. 
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