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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #50 on: 04 Feb 2008, 11:23 »

Don't forget the Super Hard-On that Carrie Brownstein used to use.
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« Reply #51 on: 04 Feb 2008, 11:51 »

"Super Hard-On" and "Carrie Brownstein" were pretty much MADE to be used in the same sentence together.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #52 on: 04 Feb 2008, 13:13 »

The Way Huge Swollen Pickle has been out of production for years now, but apparently it's almost like one of the old Sovtek Big Muffs with a hell of a better sound. They go for about $2,000 whenever they kick up on ebay.

Anyway, you can build your own... it's what I'm planning on doing. You gotta get the Large Beaver kit from BYOC, plus the mod pack to pickle your beaver...
http://www.buildyourownclone.com/largebeaver.html

Also, sometimes prebuilt pickle clone pedals show up on ebay or things like that... but it's really a legendary tone.

Well, that's shit.  Which do you think would be more expensive/practical: Building my own fuzz pedal or putting a guitar through two Big Muffs?  (Can you do that, or will it fuck your shit up?)

((What does it mean to "pickle" your pedal?))
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #53 on: 04 Feb 2008, 13:28 »

I've run through multiple distortions/fuzzboxes many times... it sounds pretty awesome. Although it can also sound really crappy and cut out your low end. I've never actually tried two big muffs, cus I've only got one!
Pickling the pedal means that it takes the custom built big muff and makes it sound like a swollen pickle. Either way, it's fun to build your own pedals.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #54 on: 04 Feb 2008, 13:28 »

Sounds it.  Thanks!
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« Reply #55 on: 04 Feb 2008, 16:23 »

I am currently saving up for a good bass overdrive pedal so I can get even more GRRRRRRRRRRRRSLDKJFSDLKJF out of my bass. Anybody have any good suggestions for a pedal?

Hi guys what up?

Seriously, if anybody has any suggestions to any pedals I could check out, I would be most very grateful.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #56 on: 04 Feb 2008, 16:27 »

You could set yourself back more than 300 bucks and get a ZVex Woolly Mammoth.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #57 on: 04 Feb 2008, 17:20 »

Yeah.  Berhinger makes some bass distortion pedals, too.  I think the ProCo Rat I/II works with bass.  That could be a cheaper alternative.
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« Reply #58 on: 04 Feb 2008, 17:22 »

There's a Zvex going for $300 on my local Craigslist.

My guitar was cheaper than that.
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« Reply #59 on: 04 Feb 2008, 17:53 »

Fuck cheep, I want that Woolly Mammoth now. That thing sounds absolutely delicious.

Also after looking through all of their pedals, I also want their tremolo pedal and their low-fi loop pedal.
Especially the low-fi loop pedal. That thing wins in every possible way.
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« Reply #60 on: 04 Feb 2008, 20:57 »

Yeah lo-fi delay is FUCKING AMAZING and one of these days I -will- have myself one of these..

That'd cost me more than my goddamn Gibson SG did, if only by $4.
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« Reply #61 on: 04 Feb 2008, 21:47 »

Well, that's shit.  Which do you think would be more expensive/practical: Building my own fuzz pedal or putting a guitar through two Big Muffs?  (Can you do that, or will it fuck your shit up?)

((What does it mean to "pickle" your pedal?))

Running your signal through more than one fuzz usually results in losing a lot of treble, cut, definition... basically it generally sounds like crap. Same with multiple heavy distortion stages, usually.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #62 on: 04 Feb 2008, 21:55 »

Well, that was kind of the point.  Basically, what I want my pedals to do at their most extreme, is to sound like a bunch of hissing and static.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #63 on: 04 Feb 2008, 22:02 »

Effector 13 Truly Beautiful Disaster

Feedback loop with photosensitive eye + oscillating fuzz. It's the craziest fucking pedal ever. Rivals DBA or Z.Vex.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #64 on: 04 Feb 2008, 22:54 »

basically it generally sounds like crap.

Define "crap."

In the right context, some crushing atonal noise can be absolutely awesome.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #65 on: 04 Feb 2008, 23:08 »

I agree with Johnny on this one..
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« Reply #66 on: 04 Feb 2008, 23:22 »

Agreed. Seriously, without vast chunks of atonal noise being manipulated and fucked around with and sent through like 80 reverb pedals, Sigur Rós would not exist as a band. TRUE STORY.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #67 on: 04 Feb 2008, 23:22 »

I agree too. That is why I own one of these:


Click!


But running too many distortion effects in series often gives a flat, muffled sound which gets buried in a mix, especially hard-clipped distortions.

Edit: I recall this is not so much a problem with lighter distortions; my Tubescreamer and DOD 250 clones run together sound pretty good. Big Muff run with my Danelectro French Toast, or either into the overdrive channel of my amp doesn't sound very good though.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #68 on: 05 Feb 2008, 01:29 »

WHAT.

This shit is amazing. I especially like this one. Ever listen to 'The Porpoise and the Hand Grenade' by Pavement? THAT IS TOTALLY THE SAME PEDAL HOLY CRAP I WANTS IT.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #69 on: 05 Feb 2008, 06:09 »

putting a guitar through two Big Muffs?

I'd think the Double Muff would probably do it.
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« Reply #70 on: 05 Feb 2008, 08:12 »

When it comes to distortion I prefer to simply use the gain channel of a decent all tube amp. Digital distortion can't compare in my opinion. That being said, if you've got the cash there are a handful of pedals that run tubes to give them a more natural, warm tone. I used a Radial Tonebone Hot British for a while and it was good for a Marshall-esque high gain. My personal favoruite (if you can find one) is the Soldano Supercharger. That pedal is a beast, but sadly isn't in production anymore. If you're looking to simply get a bit more gain out of an amp you already like the tone of I'd recomend a Fulltone Full-Drive 2.

Something a lot of people don't realise with the mass produced pedals is that when they're turned off they run your signal through a buffer. So so more pedals you run your guitar through the weaker the original tone of your guitar will get. You won't notice it with just a handful of pedals, but you will once you get a serious pedal board going. You can get true bypass pedals, but they'll cost you a fair bit more.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #71 on: 05 Feb 2008, 09:07 »

Dude, that Double Muff is cheaper than a straight-up Big Muff.  Weird.

I think I might try my hand at making one of those BYOC pedals.  My dad knows how to do that kind of stuff and can help me.  I wonder if I could make one that sounds like a Double Muff...
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #72 on: 05 Feb 2008, 22:29 »

The Double Muff isn't actually two Big Muffs, it's two "Muff Fuzz" effects in series. Hence no Big Muff controls.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #73 on: 06 Feb 2008, 10:47 »

I've got one of them Double Muffs and i really like it!
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #74 on: 06 Feb 2008, 21:49 »

I don't know if this has already been said, but I don't really care. I shall emphasize it.

Get a Big Muff Pi.

Edit: Holy Christ, I assumed someone had already brought it up, but I didn't expect it to be mentioned in every other post before mine. Sorry.
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« Reply #75 on: 06 Feb 2008, 22:18 »

Dogg reading the thread before you reply always helps.
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« Reply #76 on: 06 Feb 2008, 22:30 »

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« Reply #77 on: 07 Feb 2008, 04:13 »

An honest mistake. Now you know.

I have not yet mentioned my Vox wah pedal. It's kindof fun I guess but not anywhere near as versatile as I thought it would be when I bought it. Cool toy? Yes. Great investment of $100? Nooooooooo
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« Reply #78 on: 07 Feb 2008, 04:29 »

I'm going to add a Little Big Muff, a Morley Volume-Wah, and hopefully either another delay (a Ps-3 if I can get one at an affordable price). In the long run if I can create a True Bypass Loop, I want to use a Mini-Kaoss Pad. Seriously 50 dollars for a switch with a few wires? No thanks, I will build my own.

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« Reply #79 on: 07 Feb 2008, 16:25 »

An honest mistake. Now you know.

I have not yet mentioned my Vox wah pedal. It's kindof fun I guess but not anywhere near as versatile as I thought it would be when I bought it. Cool toy? Yes. Great investment of $100? Nooooooooo

I wanted one for a while 'till I realized just that. I think I'm gonna go for an auto-wah (looking at an EH Micro Q-Tron) instead; it's so much more versatile.
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« Reply #80 on: 08 Feb 2008, 08:01 »

Hey guys, I've got 5 bland steel pedals that need graphics. Anyone got any ideas?
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« Reply #81 on: 10 Feb 2008, 18:18 »

So i decided to check out an Ibanez Tubescreamer TS808 and electro harmonix small clone chorus.  anyone use either?
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« Reply #82 on: 10 Feb 2008, 20:39 »

i have a small stone phaser, it's pretty versatile and analog sounding.

tubescreamer reissues suck.
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« Reply #83 on: 11 Feb 2008, 06:06 »

ZVex.  These are some of the craziest pedals I have ever seen.  I wish someone sold them around here, 'cause I want a Fuzz Factory.

Dude those are some sexy looking pedals. I would get one just so I could look at it.

THREAD HIJACK: I am currently saving up for a good bass overdrive pedal so I can get even more GRRRRRRRRRRRRSLDKJFSDLKJF out of my bass. Anybody have any good suggestions for a pedal?

If you can find an old school Death Metal Pedal from BOSS (I think) they are great for bass guitar, crank the high and low, and drop the mid EQ = pure growl, esp. if you play with a pick.
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« Reply #84 on: 11 Feb 2008, 13:02 »

I'm really considering going to a Line6 X3 Live.
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« Reply #85 on: 11 Feb 2008, 22:34 »

I am currently saving up for a good bass overdrive pedal so I can get even more GRRRRRRRRRRRRSLDKJFSDLKJF out of my bass. Anybody have any good suggestions for a pedal?

Hi guys what up?

Seriously, if anybody has any suggestions to any pedals I could check out, I would be most very grateful.

IMO my Sonic Alienator sounsd great for bass, but it's really expensive. Other bass favourites are the Sansamp Bass Driver/DI and the z.vex Woolly Mammoth.
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Re: the Guitar Pedal Thread
« Reply #86 on: 12 Feb 2008, 05:39 »

tubescreamer reissues suck.
They pretty much do suck. You can get them modded with the old skool chip. But still meh. I have one and one of the pots has shorted something out so it doubly sucks. If you want a tube sound, get a tube. While my amp has a gajillion tubes in it I also employ an Akai Shred-o-matic which has a 12AX7 as well as some kooky diodes.
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« Reply #87 on: 12 Feb 2008, 06:14 »

You know that whole thing where tube amps are heavy and expensive? Yeah, I kindof have a bit of trouble with that, because I am weak, skinny, and poor.
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« Reply #88 on: 12 Feb 2008, 06:52 »

Get a small cheap one which sounds good.
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« Reply #89 on: 12 Feb 2008, 08:35 »

as regarding my other post on this topic:

Speaking of tube pedals/tube amps, does anyone have a favorite brand of 12ax7 or 12ax7 replacement (like a 5751) that they prefer? I can get a respectable crunch out of my Behringer VT999, but it doesn't seem enough.

Also, speaking of Akai pedals, has anyone ever tried an Akai G-Drive? They look rather awesome, but have been gone for some time now.
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« Reply #90 on: 12 Feb 2008, 23:15 »

Replacing the tube in that probably won't change anything much.
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« Reply #91 on: 13 Feb 2008, 01:18 »

However, turning it the fuck up might help.
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« Reply #92 on: 13 Feb 2008, 07:17 »

crank dat soulja tube
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« Reply #93 on: 13 Feb 2008, 07:21 »

Guys, would it really be worth the extra $7-8 to get a Little Big Muff over the Russian-made ones?
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« Reply #94 on: 13 Feb 2008, 07:23 »

Actually the Sovteks are kind of cool IMHO.

Depends how you want yours to look.
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« Reply #95 on: 13 Feb 2008, 07:27 »

Sovtek? Uh oh, looks like them commie sonsabitches is lookin' to make a comeback.
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« Reply #96 on: 13 Feb 2008, 07:28 »

So it's just on looks, then?

Fuck it, I'll get the Russian. I like the black.
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« Reply #97 on: 13 Feb 2008, 07:29 »

Pretty sure. My friend has a Sovtek Smallstone and it sounds exactly the same.
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« Reply #98 on: 13 Feb 2008, 09:29 »

I have to suggest GrooveTubes for all your tube needs.
Also I had a little old all tube Fender Champ that was neither heavy, or expensive. Of course it was only 6w... 
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« Reply #99 on: 13 Feb 2008, 15:02 »

Pretty sure. My friend has a Sovtek Smallstone and it sounds exactly the same.

hell yeah it does, friend
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