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[FireAarro]

Getting back to the subject of effects pedals, I have decided to invest in a Big Muff to go with the amp I just bought and the new guitar I will be buying/getting for Xmas in a few months. What's the best one? At first I thought I'd get the Little Big Muff because it will fit in the lining of my hardshell case, but then I read that Sonic Youth uses the Russian one. I looked at all three at my local guitar store; the Russian one is cheapest, but it is made of plastic. It is $20 cheaper than the LBM but they're all pretty cheap and it would be worth it to play the kind of stuff I play. And yes, I will probably playtest them first if I'm allowed, but three minutes of jamming won't make as much of an impact as people who use them everyday. What do you all think?

What on earth sort of Russian EHX clone is plastic?  I'd kill for one, because every week I trip on my Small Stone and those sharp corners hurt!

The biggest difference is between the russian and the American, iirc, and the main difference between the american regular and the LBM is that the little one's a tad bassier.  The American models have true bypass, and so will make a racket when you turn it on or off.  The russian one won't.

Actually the recent Russians have been true bypass as well. Mine is.

[Beastmouth]

Getting back to the subject of effects pedals, I have decided to invest in a Big Muff to go with the amp I just bought and the new guitar I will be buying/getting for Xmas in a few months. What's the best one? At first I thought I'd get the Little Big Muff because it will fit in the lining of my hardshell case, but then I read that Sonic Youth uses the Russian one. I looked at all three at my local guitar store; the Russian one is cheapest, but it is made of plastic. It is $20 cheaper than the LBM but they're all pretty cheap and it would be worth it to play the kind of stuff I play. And yes, I will probably playtest them first if I'm allowed, but three minutes of jamming won't make as much of an impact as people who use them everyday. What do you all think?

What on earth sort of Russian EHX clone is plastic?  I'd kill for one, because every week I trip on my Small Stone and those sharp corners hurt!

The biggest difference is between the russian and the American, iirc, and the main difference between the american regular and the LBM is that the little one's a tad bassier.  The American models have true bypass, and so will make a racket when you turn it on or off.  The russian one won't.

Actually the recent Russians have been true bypass as well. Mine is.

Well I'll be dipped. 

I might have to get one sometime to go with my small stone

[Patrick]

[imapiratearg]

Yeah.

[David_Dovey]

don't be dicks, three quotes hardly counts a tunnel.

[Patrick]

What's a hundred lawyers dead in a ditch? A GOOD START.

Same principle here.

[Spluff]

By that logic, so is one quote.

Which, in that case, I'm with Patrick, we really should start banning for quoting.

[Ballard]

Which, in that case, I'm with Patrick, we really should start banning for quoting.

[doombilly]

I'm Awesome

[Patrick]

Man so I make a joke about something and instantly the thread dies. I haven't felt this awkward since my uncle started talking very candidly about his dick at my grandmother's funeral last year.

[Beastmouth]

Man so I make a joke about something and instantly the thread dies. I haven't felt this awkward since my uncle started talking very candidly about his dick at my grandmother's funeral last year.

Oh, hush, Captain Beefheart!

[billiumbean]

...

It seems I've gotten here just in time...


I get paid tomorrow, and after getting a Boss DD-7 and an EBow for my birthday (fwiw: The combination of the two is like a liquid sunrise in that it's f-f-fuuh- impossible to describe and comprehend) to get another pedal.  I'm deciding to get a Muff (which is ironic, considering the recently-deceased conversation above) and an overdrive, thus formulating the conundrum.

Which is better, a Tube Screamer or a Blues Driver?

The Tube definitely has a hot, thick-yet-subtle sound (on humbuckers, I haven't heard single-coil yet), but the B.D has this thick, vibrating tone, and I think it could achieve the Tube sound and beyond, but I can't be certain until I've tried it.  Plus, the latter is cheaper...

[imapiratearg]

I really don't think Boss distortions sound natural.  They've very mechanical-sounding.  The Tube Screamer sounds much more natural to me.  However, I also find the Tube Screamer a very boring pedal, and if it were me in your boots, I would probably get an MXR Dist. +/DOD 250 or something similar.

[imapiratearg]

It is considered a distortion, yeah, but I've seen it described as having valve-like qualities.  Also, another good overdrive alternative: Fulltone OCD.

[Ballard]

Radial Tonebone Classic. By far the best distortion pedal I've ever used. So warm and authentic sounding.

More expensive, even more versatile Radial Tonebone Classic Tri-Mode.

[thebrew221]

So I play an Epiphone Dot Studio.  I bought a Raven amp just before coming up to college, and haven't had much of a chance to use it yet.  When I go back for winter break, I definitely plan on getting some pedals for it and jamming with friends.  My problem is, I have 0 experience with pedals.  Anyone mind giving me some suggestions to build my tone?

I'm looking for a cleaner tone, something along the lines of Tom Scholz's sound, maybe something closer to Eric Johnson's tone on Cliffs of Dover to add abit of a crunch.  Another sound I like is from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4vLEZlnAyo&feature=related

Sorry if I'm sounding a bit vague, but if anyone can help, I'd definitely appreciate some suggestions.  I'm a poor college student, so nothing too much, but I definitely want a better tone than what my Raven gives me.  At least the tone's clean enough, with no built-in effects to interfere, that pedals should work well with it.

[BlahBlah]

Has anyone here used any Death By Audio pedals? The fuzz war looks ace but I don't know how versatile it is.

[Patrick]

Radial Tonebone Classic. By far the best distortion pedal I've ever used. So warm and authentic sounding.

More expensive, even more versatile Radial Tonebone Classic Tri-Mode.

Dude don't those things use actual tubes? If so, I will begin my lusting.

[billiumbean]

At two hundred clams, I'm happy with my Rat2 for now. 

[Ballard]

Radial Tonebone Classic. By far the best distortion pedal I've ever used. So warm and authentic sounding.

More expensive, even more versatile Radial Tonebone Classic Tri-Mode.

Dude don't those things use actual tubes? If so, I will begin my lusting.

Yep. There's a 12AX7 in this sucker.

[imapiratearg]

I thought so.

At two hundred clams, I'm happy with my Rat2 for now. 

Haha, I have a vintage RAT all laid out on perfboard I am going to build sometime soon, but with slightly varying components.  I tore down my old, broken Fender Frontman 15, and used spare parts from my fuzz build and I'm calling it the FRANKENRAT.  It shares components with a Marshall Guv'nor/Blues Breaker.

[billiumbean]

FRANKINRAT sounds like something I would sell my left soul for.

Jealousy is making me tell you that I hope it explodes and discourages you from ever attempting to do it ever again.

But the kid in me likes the frosted side.

[Patrick]

Dude don't those things use actual tubes? If so, I will begin my lusting.

Yep. There's a 12AX7 in this sucker.

Man if I didn't want to get Tara something nice for Christmas and her birthday in May, I would grab one of these -right fucking now-

[imapiratearg]

FRANKINRAT sounds like something I would sell my left soul for.

Jealousy is making me tell you that I hope it explodes and discourages you from ever attempting to do it ever again.

But the kid in me likes the frosted side.

It probably isn't going to sound anything like a RAT since most of the components that give the RAT is signature sound are different.  I just used a RAT schematic because I really dislike Marshall pedals.

[Ballard]

Man if I didn't want to get Tara something nice for Christmas and her birthday in May, I would grab one of these -right fucking now-

inorite. I swear I'm about to sell my Stereo Memory Man for it.

[Ballard]

Hey Pat: go go go

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/msg/907210471.html

[Beastmouth]

man, i'm wonderin if it's worth six, seven hundred to get the Moog delay...

i know i'm a sucker even thinkin it, but damn, that's a sweet delay.  and it's V C!

[Patrick]

Gene I can't do Craigslist, I am in Albania. I am not gonna trust anybody on the inter-blags with my credit information! I'll do eBay so I can use PayPal instead.

[Beastmouth]

Any word on the EHX Polychorus?  Wondering about these guys lately. 

[Ballard]

Wow I didn't know Boss made anything that interesting.

[imapiratearg]

Me either.

[valley_parade]

Boss DF-2 Super Feedbacker Distortion.

Welcome to "the pedal Boris named an entire album after".

Guys, I'm having some problems with my Guv'Nor 2. It's fine when bypassed, but when on...

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I can alter this tone with the tone and volume pots on my guitar, all the pedal controls (volume/deep/bass/mid/treble/gain), and my amp's EQ. What the hell?

[Beaumont]

Dude don't those things use actual tubes? If so, I will begin my lusting.

Yep. There's a 12AX7 in this sucker.

Man if I didn't want to get Tara something nice for Christmas and her birthday in May, I would grab one of these -right fucking now-

the Tone Bone pedals are nice. I used a Hot British until I got my Marshall. if you're looking to a SICK tube driven distortion pedal try and find one of the old Soldano Superchargers. they blow away anything Radial has put out. downside is they were discontinued due to an increase in the price of metal a while back. they're built like tanks and i guess the amount of metal going into them was making them to expensive. anyway, they're  by far the nicest distortion pedal i've had the pleasure of playing.

[Ballard]

That Supercharger looks like cool shit. What really sold me on the Tonebone Tri-Mode though is the EQ, output settings and multiple gain settings with dedicated footswitches. I'm looking to get an Orange Tiny Terror and that amp's main fault has to be it's simplicity. Volume, Tone, Gain knobs and nothing else. So for bedroom levels or times when I want a little more control over my tone (rather than the one wonderful setting the Terror has, "LOUD ROKK"), the extra stuff is nice. Only justified of course by the beautiful distortion they produce.

[Spluff]

Frantone Cream Puff.

Ahublahshgghfghhhhhhh.

I really want that. Bonus points because it's pink.

[sean]

So I need a reverb pedal. Do I go with an RV3, a Holy Grail, or something completely different?

Tell me things guitar nerds! (Oh I don't know if this is worth noting but I play a warwick convertte through an ampeg. whee)

[imapiratearg]

Get the Fender Reverb Unit!  Not some silly IC reverb simulator!

[sean]

Dear fucking god, that is the most amazing thing I have ever seen. How much is that though?

Edit: I also don't know how useful that would be to me. I need reverb for bowing/gy!be style screwdrivering/other post rock shit, and wouldn't a hall style reverb a la the holy grail be better?

[billiumbean]

Frantone Cream Puff.

Ahublahshgghfghhhhhhh.

I really want that. Bonus points because it's pink.

Damn you.  I was SOOO set on getting a Big Muff, and now I have to decide between Puff and Muff.  I hate being indecisive.

EDIT:  Holy butt.  $219 for a Cream Puff.  My pants have just zipped themselves back up.

[imapiratearg]

Dear fucking god, that is the most amazing thing I have ever seen. How much is that though?

Edit: I also don't know how useful that would be to me. I need reverb for bowing/gy!be style screwdrivering/other post rock shit, and wouldn't a hall style reverb a la the holy grail be better?

Perhaps, and I'll admit, the Holy Grail does sound pretty close to a valve-driven reverb.  The Reverb unit is also roughly six hundred dollars.  My guess is, that's a little more than you're willing to spend.

[carrotosaurus]

I'm a huge fan of the Holy Grail, just make sure you only use the power supply it came with, don't expect to plug your onespot in and have it work. Otherwise it's ridiculously noisy.

[imapiratearg]

Yeah, I've heard it's very picky about its power supplies.  It can't use nine volt batteries can it?

[Ballard]

Hahaha holy fuck Matt, that guy's hair.

The Holy Grail has spring, hall, and flurb (trippy, shoegazey reverb with modulation) and you can switch between them with the flick of a switch. I highly recommend it.

[Beaumont]

That Supercharger looks like cool shit. What really sold me on the Tonebone Tri-Mode though is the EQ, output settings and multiple gain settings with dedicated footswitches. I'm looking to get an Orange Tiny Terror and that amp's main fault has to be it's simplicity. Volume, Tone, Gain knobs and nothing else. So for bedroom levels or times when I want a little more control over my tone (rather than the one wonderful setting the Terror has, "LOUD ROKK"), the extra stuff is nice. Only justified of course by the beautiful distortion they produce.

i used to have a tiny terror through a marshall cab as a "for shits" rig. since its only 7/15 watts it ran really well at bedroom levels. the lack of an equalizer does mean you can't tweek the tone of the amp, but i found i could get enough variation just by switching what guitar i used or what pick i used. the biggest problem i found with the terror was resisting the urge to just crank up all the knobs

[imapiratearg]

Hahaha holy fuck Matt, that guy's hair.

Ahaha, I know!

[Ballard]

Only difference being that this is gonna be my primary/live rig. I could use the versatility.

Also my bedroom level is probably significantly below yours cause I live in a yuppie hole of a neighborhood in an apartment building full of lawyers and little kids. None of whom are cool enough to appreciate the rokk.

[imapiratearg]

That's lame.  The house closest to me is about ten yards away from my window.  Apparently, some people can hear me halfway up the street when I play in the garage in the summer and crank my Deville to get it to overdrive naturally.  Which I figured out a about a week ago that the reason I thought it's natural overdrive was muddy and shitty was because I had too much bass.

On that note, something that has always interested me:  I've always wondered what other people dial in their EQs at.

Before, I used to have mine set as Treble: 10 Mids: 5 Bass: 9.  Then I figured out that my guitar sounded a whole lot better both distorted and clean with it set at: T: 10 M: 7 B: 8.  I also have the Bright switch engaged because I like to roll back on my guitar's volume a bit to reduce some of the buzz from my pickups, since I use a distortion right into a fuzz and the amounts of gain are pretty ridiculous.

What about you guys?

[Spluff]

10 - 10 - 10

RAWK

[Ballard]

Man when we used to play at my old drummer's house (he lives on the third floor of a building with vaulted ceilings) we were once told that at band practice volume, we could be heard across the street in Riverside Park.

Mind you he lives on the western edge of Manhattan (the bustling metropolis section of New York you usually hear about) and the "street" in question empties out into a highway and is the divider between the end of the city grid and a sprawling park. So this is something like 50 feet down and 65 across.

[billiumbean]

Man when we used to play at my old drummer's house (he lives on the third floor of a building with vaulted ceilings) we were once told that at band practice volume, we could be heard across the street in Riverside Park.

Mind you he lives on the western edge of Manhattan (the bustling metropolis section of New York you usually hear about) and the "street" in question empties out into a highway and is the divider between the end of the city grid and a sprawling park. So this is something like 50 feet down and 65 across.

That's some fucking loud Simon & Garfunkeling, man.

Seriously though, what do you play to merit that decibel level?