Topic: In The Aeroplane Over The Sea (Read 39513 times)

gardenhead_ · « **on:** 09 Feb 2008, 19:25 »

So, today is the 10th anniversary of In The Aeroplane Over The Sea, and I realised that for what a hugely influential album it seems to be there are hardly any artists that I know of that take a lot of influence from NMH. The only artist I know of is Viking Moses, which doesn't even sound a whole lot like NMH.

So, would anyone be able to recommend some NMH-like artists?
Also discuss the amazing greatness that is In The Aeroplane Over The Sea and Neutral Milk Hotel in general!

KharBevNor · « **Reply #1 on:** 09 Feb 2008, 19:31 »

Neutral Milk Hotel? MOER LIEK DOUCHE-TRAL SILK MOTEL AMIRITE?

gardenhead_ · « **Reply #2 on:** 09 Feb 2008, 19:37 »

totally

Joseph · « **Reply #3 on:** 09 Feb 2008, 20:12 »

Khar is just loathe to admit that he likes this album apparently.

Anyhow, you really should check out Beirut. Especially the first album. Zach Condon, the main man behind Beirut, had a member are two of Jeff Mangum's backing musicians from Neutral Milk Hotel record on the first album with him.

gardenhead_ · « **Reply #4 on:** 09 Feb 2008, 20:33 »

Oh damn, I totally forgot about Beirut. Thanks for reminding me! Gulag Orkestar is an awesome album.

Scarychips · « **Reply #5 on:** 09 Feb 2008, 20:37 »

And since you like Beirut, you should also check A Hack and a Hacksaw, plus Jeremy Barnes of NMH is in it.

De_El · « **Reply #6 on:** 09 Feb 2008, 20:48 »

The Decemberists borrowed a lot from NMH in their early days.

Joseph · « **Reply #7 on:** 09 Feb 2008, 21:05 »

I know that Spencer Krug (Wolf Parade, Sunset Rubdown, Frog Eyes, Swan Lake) has also spoken about admiration for Neutral Milk Hotel in interviews.

squawk · « **Reply #8 on:** 09 Feb 2008, 23:04 »

"Holland, 1945" is the best song for shouting!

KharBevNor · « **Reply #9 on:** 09 Feb 2008, 23:49 »

Dark Flame? MOER LIEK SHARK FRAME, AMIRITE?

MOER LIEK SHIT FRAME

SHIT FUCK

Tom · « **Reply #10 on:** 09 Feb 2008, 23:56 »

It'd be a good idea for you to check out Snake's Got A Leg and Sunset Rubdown by Sunset Rubdown, anything after that is too far away from NMH to warrant mention. Also, Frog Eyes might be worth your time and if your after more spooky sounds try bands like Wolf Eyes.

Joseph · « **Reply #11 on:** 09 Feb 2008, 23:58 »

See, Khar just likes to yell about things he loves when he's drunk.

Thanks for the thought, buddy! You're pretty great yourself.

Johnny C · « **Reply #12 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 00:00 »

The end of that Khar post was just lazy. "Shit Fuck" has almost nothing to do with "Dark Flame" beyond being nonsense.

EDIT: Why am I just being super mean to people tonight.

Joseph · « **Reply #13 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 00:03 »

What sort of last name is "C" anyhow?

IronOxide · « **Reply #14 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 00:19 »

Quote from: squawk on 09 Feb 2008, 23:04

"Holland, 1945" is the best song for shouting!

The trick to singing like Jeff Magnum is to sound like you're shouting even when you're not.

Tom · « **Reply #15 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 01:02 »

I just tried doing it while pretending to Mangum, bloody hell that was fun.

Thrillho · « **Reply #16 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 04:01 »

I am slightly confused, here. 'For such an influential album, it's not influenced many people.'

HEH?

gardenhead_ · « **Reply #17 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 04:29 »

Ok, I worded it pretty terribly. What I meant was, so many critics say it's one of the most influential albums of the 90's, and lots of artists cite it and NMH as an influence, but what I was saying is that it doesn't really translate into the music.

As I've been shown in this thread though is that I overlooked a lot of artists for some reason. I mean how the hell did i not draw the comparisons with Frog Eyes?

Thrillho · « **Reply #18 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 04:54 »

Influence doesn't necessarily have to translate directly into the music. Quite apart from the fact that you can be influenced lyrically, loads of bands sound nothing like their influences. Can you hear The Cure in blink-182, or Deftones? Can you hear Missy Elliott in Eels? Can you hear Ice Cube in Weezer? There may be elements of it somewhere, but you'd never trace it directly.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #19 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 06:19 »

Quote from: DynamiteKid on 10 Feb 2008, 04:54

Can you hear The Cure in blink-182?

No. I'd be glad not hearing blink 182 at all, though.

Thrillho · « **Reply #20 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 06:58 »

Jesus Christ, this board is getting predictable. I need to stop giving it the benefit of the doubt.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #21 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 09:37 »

The band Nineteen Forty-Five borrow from NMH.

I like On Avery Island better.

Johnny C · « **Reply #22 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 10:07 »

Quote from: imapiratearg on 10 Feb 2008, 06:19

Quote from: DynamiteKid on 10 Feb 2008, 04:54
Can you hear The Cure in blink-182?

No.

I don't know how, the last album features one track sung entirely by Robert Smith himself.

MusicScribbles · « **Reply #23 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 10:20 »

And it wasn't even good.

Kai · « **Reply #24 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 10:55 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 10 Feb 2008, 09:37

I like On Avery Island better.

seconded

(Everything Is is kind of shitty though)

imapiratearg · « **Reply #25 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 14:48 »

Quote from: Johnny C on 10 Feb 2008, 10:07

I don't know how, the last album features one track sung entirely by Robert Smith himself.

I haven't listened to blink-182 in a long time. I bet if I sat down and actually listened to them again, and then The Cure, I might be able to.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #26 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 15:14 »

Quote from: Kai on 10 Feb 2008, 10:55

(Everything Is is kind of shitty though)

I don't know, I really like "Snow Song pt. 1".

dalconnsuch · « **Reply #27 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 19:36 »

beirut is better than neutral milk hotel

unfortunetly neutral milk hotel only had one good album, and that was in the aeroplane over the sea, and unfortunetly, it wasn't THAT good

leave it alone

KharBevNor · « **Reply #28 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 19:43 »

Johnny C? MOER LIEK JOHNNY PEE

JOHNNY PISS

TRANNY PISS?

pat101 · « **Reply #29 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 19:57 »

you should check out the band Rock Plaza Central, heavily influenced by (sound a lot like) NMH for sure.

Plus Are We Not Horses? Is a pretty good album.

Lexington, 125 · « **Reply #30 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 20:08 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 10 Feb 2008, 09:37

The band Nineteen Forty-Five borrow from NMH.

I like On Avery Island better.

Thirded, more xylophone & fuzz bass. Anyone have the UK lp with the alternate cover?

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #31 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 20:41 »

Quote from: dalconnsuch on 10 Feb 2008, 19:36

beirut is better than neutral milk hotel

I am sorry but you just guarantee'd I will never listen to another thing you say ever.

McTaggart · « **Reply #32 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 20:52 »

He's right though.

gardenhead_ · « **Reply #33 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 22:52 »

Quote from: Lexington, 125 on 10 Feb 2008, 20:08

Quote from: zerodrone on 10 Feb 2008, 09:37
The band Nineteen Forty-Five borrow from NMH.

I like On Avery Island better.

Thirded, more xylophone & fuzz bass. Anyone have the UK lp with the alternate cover?

fourth'd (?). I like the fuzziness. ITAOS is kind of too clean.

Johnny C · « **Reply #34 on:** 10 Feb 2008, 23:04 »

Quote from: pat101 on 10 Feb 2008, 19:57

you should check out the band Rock Plaza Central, heavily influenced by (sound a lot like) NMH for sure.

Plus Are We Not Horses? Is a pretty good album.

This.

Patrick · « **Reply #35 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 00:36 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 10 Feb 2008, 20:41

Quote from: dalconnsuch on 10 Feb 2008, 19:36
(snip)
I am sorry but you just guarantee'd I will never listen to another thing you say ever.

Boy are you late to the party, sugar tits.

amok · « **Reply #36 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 08:56 »

Quote from: McTaggart on 10 Feb 2008, 20:52

He's right though.

yeah the guy from Beirut's voice isn't like being skullfucked by a cheesegrater

it's actually quite pleasant!

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #37 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 09:09 »

I like Jeff Mangum's voice.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #38 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 09:30 »

It's not that bad...

De_El · « **Reply #39 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 14:30 »

It's unique! Which is pretty cool.
Although by the end of "Sailing Through" off that Beauty demo, I'm kind of giggling a lot.

Wasteroo · « **Reply #40 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 14:55 »

Quote from: amok on 11 Feb 2008, 08:56

yeah the guy from Beirut's voice isn't like being skullfucked by a cheesegrater

it's actually quite pleasant!

I'm having a hard time visualizing that imagery.

Also, even though Zach Condon's voice is amazing and operatic, his lyrics aren't nearly as grand as Mangum's.

You may not have noticed because it's pretty damn hard to tell what Condon is saying.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #41 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 15:03 »

The only song I don't really like off of In the Aeroplane Over the Sea is "King of Carrot Flowers Pt. 2." Nothing against Christians or Catholics, but I just cannot take him wailing "IIIII LOOOOOOVE YOOOOOU, JEEEEESUUSSSS CHRIIIIIST!" over and over again. It really gets on nerves. On the other hand, "Holland, 1945" is a lovely song.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #42 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 15:09 »

Are you implying Jeff Mangum is a Christian? I thought everyone knew he was singing that lyric ironically or whatever. He's gone on record as saying he's not Christian.

Anyway, I love that part. And once the song starts rocking, boy, is it awesome.

Wasteroo · « **Reply #43 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 15:17 »

The King of Carrot Flowers pts. 2 & 3 was always my least favorite track on ITAOTS. I like it right up to when he starts singing. The lyrics and singing just aren't up to par when he gets to, "And then I'll find myself AGAAAAAAIN! AGAI-AI-AI-AIN! OH-OH!"

I actually like the track up to that though.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #44 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 15:20 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 11 Feb 2008, 15:09

Are you implying Jeff Mangum is a Christian? I thought everyone knew he was singing that lyric ironically or whatever. He's gone on record as saying he's not Christian.

Anyway, I love that part. And once the song starts rocking, boy, is it awesome.

I'm implying that it's annoying. I agree with you about the rest of the song, though.

Sox · « **Reply #45 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 17:03 »

Quote from: Jeff Mangum

I love you, Jesus christ. Jesus Christ, I love you.

I can't understand why anybody who would otherwise enjoy the song would find this lyric irritating. Do a lot of people have a problem with musicians using the phrase 'Jesus christ' in their songs?
It must be hard being Jeff Mangum. There's a lot of pressure on him to out perform this album if or when he decides to start writing and recording music again. No matter what he would do, people would say it wasn't as good as Aeroplane, even if it was better.

Bonus points to the man for not putting out the same schlock album over and over like most other 90s indie 'heroes' that kept on trucking.

imapiratearg · « **Reply #46 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 17:08 »

I never said I didn't enjoy the song. I just said it's not my favorite on that album. I really have nothing against that phrase in itself. Hell, I use "Jesus Christ," or just "Jesus" as an exclamatory nearly every day. It's just he repeats it ad nauseam, or at least to a point where it starts to bother me.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #47 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 17:11 »

Quote from: Sox on 11 Feb 2008, 17:03

Bonus points to the man for not putting out the same schlock album over and over like most other 90s indie 'heroes' that kept on trucking.

lolwut. All the 90s indie heroes did the same thing. Slint, My Bloody Valentine, GY!BE, Olivia Tremor Control, June of 44, Rex... doing your best work and suddenly calling it quits was what the 90s were all about*!

*Yes, I know GY!BE didn't quit until the 00's, but still.

Wasteroo · « **Reply #48 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 17:19 »

He's still recording, writing, and playing music. He went to this Bulgarian folk festival and recorded a 30 minute compilation. I mean, it's not NMH, but it's output, and it's definitely not sticking to some tried and true formula.

dalconnsuch · « **Reply #49 on:** 11 Feb 2008, 22:39 »

Quote from: zerodrone on 10 Feb 2008, 20:41

Quote from: dalconnsuch on 10 Feb 2008, 19:36
beirut is better than neutral milk hotel

I am sorry but you just guarantee'd I will never listen to another thing you say ever.

and you have statistical evidence to prove that my claim is any less truthful than your claim? sorry sugar boobs but if you don't like my opinion boo hoo, go cry later, your opinion is not better than anybody elses no matter how much we conflict and i think your an idiot

you want to stop listening to false opinions? stop saying opinions, because for every statistical false opinion i say, i gauruntee you've said more

people have different opinions, deal with it, or close your eyes ears AND mouth mr three monkeys

at least beriut is consistant, NMH just convinced me that they have one album that i can listen to all the way through without wanting to burn my hipster scarves and my buddy holly demeaner

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