Topic: Some art I made (Read 16780 times)

Teh Geek Lord · « **on:** 18 Feb 2008, 14:51 »

Hey QC fans, I'm not a big poster but I have some art I'd like some opinions on.

Please hold no bars and feel free to tell my that they "fucking suck" if you wish, but please tell me why they do so I can improve upon my art.
I've been drawing for years though I've been in a two year lull due to work and college. I've recently gotten back into it with some Treasure Planet fan art (the first few) to releive built up stress that this first semester is causing me.

Well i hope that at least someone enjoys them, if not then I have failed as an artist in every way

Captain Amelia Fan art I suck I know

This guy I made up based off of Captain Amelia from Treasure Planet

Forgive the black bar to the right side, I didn't scan it right.

I did this to Rob Zombies Song Dragula and I never got around to finishing it (I stopped when I messed the top-end of the motor up)

One of the few I actually colored in (I like black and white) and I was mildly pleased with it for once

A felt-tip pen sketch of Captain Amelia maybe i will shade it in, maybe I wont

This one is going on 4 years old now, it was done for my senior art scrapbook (basically my art projects all put into one book) I drew my old pal's truck and shading it in accurately was a challenge

A horribly failed attempt at making a web-comic in MS paint, it seems I can't do jack shit with art in any way...

so please be gentle I know they arn't great

sleepingfingers · « **Reply #1 on:** 19 Feb 2008, 14:33 »

The two black and white cars showed good perspective. Try and take that and it and apply it to your figures. I would recommend drawing some human bodies that had other objects in the frame so you could begin developing better reference points.

clockworkjames · « **Reply #2 on:** 19 Feb 2008, 22:17 »

Yah the cars are pretty cool, however furries are never cool.

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #3 on:** 20 Feb 2008, 09:48 »

Quote from: clockworkjames on 19 Feb 2008, 22:17

Yah the cars are pretty cool, however furries are never cool.

furries?

tomselleck69 · « **Reply #4 on:** 20 Feb 2008, 09:52 »

Furries. Polar opposite of cool.

Emaline · « **Reply #5 on:** 20 Feb 2008, 20:48 »

Whys everybody always got to hate on the furries?

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #6 on:** 20 Feb 2008, 20:51 »

it's from a god damn Disney movie people, come on.

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #7 on:** 21 Feb 2008, 08:03 »

so what, I'm a fur-fag

deal with it!

I thought that ferries referenced to anime and the animal/person/weird creations they come up with? Or am i completely wrong on this?

Lines · « **Reply #8 on:** 21 Feb 2008, 12:36 »

Furries are a fetish and yes, they are drawn in anime style. But if people had seen Treasure Planet, they would know your drawings are not of a furry.

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #9 on:** 21 Feb 2008, 14:59 »

Quote from: Linds on 21 Feb 2008, 12:36

Furries are a fetish and yes, they are drawn in anime style. But if people had seen Treasure Planet, they would know your drawings are not of a furry.

Glad someone agrees with me (thanks)

ImRonBurgundy? · « **Reply #10 on:** 22 Feb 2008, 13:23 »

Wait, people watched Treasure Planet?

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #11 on:** 23 Feb 2008, 13:28 »

Quote from: ImRonBurgundy? on 22 Feb 2008, 13:23

Wait, people watched Treasure Planet?

is that a surprise?

IronOxide · « **Reply #12 on:** 23 Feb 2008, 21:53 »

Quote from: Teh Geek Lord on 21 Feb 2008, 08:03

so what, I'm a fur-fag deal with it! I thought that ferries referenced to anime and the animal/person/weird creations they come up with? Or am i completely wrong on this?

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I don't know about you guys, but I am getting all kinds of hot and bothered.

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #13 on:** 29 Feb 2008, 19:59 »

Seriously, though. I need opinions on what I can do to make my art better. There are many good artists in here, and any advice would be most welcome.

tomselleck69 · « **Reply #14 on:** 01 Mar 2008, 08:50 »

Get a book on anatomy, work on developing your sense of perspective, don't worry about "shading" (worry about the quality of your lines instead) and avoid copying.

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #15 on:** 02 Mar 2008, 14:09 »

Yeah, I do need to work on anatomy and get my perspectives better. Copying is something I do not do, I base some drawings off an image, but do not directly copy.

And can you offer assistance with my line quality, what should be worked on, cleaner, neater, sharper?

Spluff · « **Reply #16 on:** 02 Mar 2008, 21:39 »

Are you kidding? Don't copy is one of the least useful pieces of advice ever. Master studies, life drawing, etc. are 'copying', and they are the most useful thing you can do.

tomselleck69 · « **Reply #17 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 00:52 »

reversal: are YOU the one who is kidding?

200 pts

Now that I have restored my honor, if you think I meant "avoid copying" to be interpreted as "don't ever do any life drawing or direct representational art," you are thinkin' wrong!

The reason I thought it might be relevant in the first place was because of the difference in quality between the cars and the Treasure Planet art, the cars being well-done both perspectively & proportionally, and the fan art lacking a little in those areas. Photo referencing is handy in that it gives you a good idea of 'the lay of the land', but relying on it too heavily will stunt your growth as an artist. To develop without the need for too many crutches is important. As for life drawing, never miss the opportunity to do some, whether it be from a model or just sitting around drawing people sitting around you. But anyway, I'll bet you already know this.

I'll write out some pointers on your line tomorrow (there is a lot to cover, ALL of it is difficult to phrase, and I am tired).

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #18 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 08:48 »

sorry I misunderstood copying as tracing images and calling it art. I have been accused of that before.

Thanks for offering pointers, however.

I mad a visit to Barnes and Noble and grabbed myself an anatomy book, and will work on it as time allows. Another problem that plagues me is doing a rough drawing beforehand. I rarely do this. I'm too picky and when I sketch, I find myself nit-picking over the sketchy look. I usually draw lines to be permanent, take the Toyota truck, I started with the right side headlight, and worked my way out form there, shading and finishing the drawing and inch at a time. I've always done my art that way, I start at one spot and work my way out. That would probably explain my troubles with the human figure, and the Treasure Planet fan-art. I've been told to sketch drawings before hand, and I never seem to do that, not sure why its hard to put into words. The cars I can do, I understand angles and proportions as far as they go (line work, though needs help), but when I try to draw people and animals I never can do it. But just within the last four months or so I have gotten back into the art scene. I was out of it for two years and all the automotive drawings I have done were from before my two-year break in drawing. Then I come back a little rusty and try to draw people, and as it should be, I find trouble with that.

All advice I get I will use, I'm one who will try anything with art. Can't guarantee I will use it after I try it, it if does not jive with my then I won't use it (probably why sketching before hand is something I rarely do, it just doesn't jive with me). I'll begin with *gasp* sketching drawings form the anatomy book (skeletal sticks) to get body placement and angles and motion, and work my up form there. I'll post the results when I get a rough feeling for the human figure, but until I can get emotion and human figures down, my art is pointless. This one was done with a lot of time and attention to the detail, but still the human figure just isn't there (I sketched this on before hand)

No, its not a furry, just fan-art.

tomselleck69 · « **Reply #19 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 10:06 »

The silly rebuttal was to Spluff, not to you.

As for sketching beforehand, yeah it is difficult to get into if you haven't always worked like that, but believe me it is the way to go. Starting at one spot and working outwards felt natural to me for the longest time, but the drawbacks that come with that method ended up being too big to ignore. Fully creating one piece and then moving on to the next is asking for trouble with your proportions. One thing you might consider is inking the final product more often. It would take some of the pressure off of your pencil lines, so you'd be able to loosen them up a bit.

I'm making a lot of noise about proportions but honestly there aren't any glaring problems with them in the images you've posted. It'll be more relevant when you get into anatomy. One thing I would suggest is to spend some time working on the way you do hands.

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #20 on:** 03 Mar 2008, 10:19 »

yeah, hands have always been an issue, but there is a whole chapter on hands in the anatomy book I purchased. Much thanks for the help though, and I hope you will like the end results that I will post here. By inking you mean going over the pencil lines in ink, right?

anythingxbutxnormal · « **Reply #21 on:** 06 Mar 2008, 16:28 »

H'okay. Here is a piece I drew. It resemble's QC's style. I've been reading it so much that it's affecting my art. I'm sorry?

This is the cast of my online comic. I'll color it for when I post it on the site.

www.comicspace.com/anythingxbutxnormal

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #22 on:** 07 Mar 2008, 07:12 »

I like your style, it is QC-esque with a twist to it. Now lets see that colored version!

est · « **Reply #23 on:** 08 Mar 2008, 18:00 »

The best thing you can do for yourself is to break out and try drawing some things you wouldn't normally draw. This'll force yourself to think differently about your drawing instead of staying with the same safe decisions. As someone said above, if you are serious about drawing you should get some anatomy books, especially if they are specifically for drawing, There are some books by a guy named Andrew Loomis that are excellent and you can generally download them in pdf format if you want to check them out before purchasing one you think would best help you (it is best to have the physical copy so you can take it wherever you want to be drawing)

Have fun!

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #24 on:** 08 Mar 2008, 19:51 »

Hey thanks a ton, Est. I will take that advice, I purchased one anatomy book "The body in all its forms" and have begun doing quick sketches from it just to get a feel for how drawing from it will go. Googleing Andrew Loomis now. Will probably make a stop at Barnes and Noble and grab a copy of one of his books to draw from. Thanks for the support here!

est · « **Reply #25 on:** 08 Mar 2008, 23:41 »

No probs. For the record, the Loomis book I was thinking of is called "Figure Drawing for all it's Worth". If you can grab that in pdf of html form you can see if it looks useful to you.

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #26 on:** 09 Mar 2008, 10:06 »

just ordered it online, must thanks Est! *bows down in worship*

est · « **Reply #27 on:** 09 Mar 2008, 18:41 »

Glad I could help, hope you keep at it!

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #28 on:** 09 Mar 2008, 19:02 »

as long as people like my art, I will keep at it. hell, even if they don't I will still keep at it, its in my blood. I'll update this thread as I get more drawings finished!!!!

anythingxbutxnormal · « **Reply #29 on:** 10 Mar 2008, 20:58 »

This may not be the color version of my last piece.
But I drew this just today, and colored it as well. It's a commission piece for my close friend. She's been bitching me to draw her. I finally did.

So here it is!

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #30 on:** 10 Mar 2008, 21:52 »

nice job, what are you doing it with, digital, hand drawn? if digital , what program?

anythingxbutxnormal · « **Reply #31 on:** 11 Mar 2008, 05:33 »

Quote from: Teh Geek Lord on 10 Mar 2008, 21:52

nice job, what are you doing it with, digital, hand drawn? if digital , what program?

Well actually it's a mix of the two. I'm extremely poor, and spend most of my money on healthy food (it's more expensive...grr.)

So I hand draw my work, ink it, scan it in, and when I get the chance I use my school's Photoshop program to color and shade the work! :] I'm almost done with my trio drawing (in the coloring category), just have to get shirts and backgrounds colored, and maybe shade it.

Thank you very much for your feedback though! It keeps me working hard! I'm going to try and find that anatomy book at Barnes and Noble later this week,

Teh Geek Lord · « **Reply #32 on:** 12 Mar 2008, 12:56 »

It's there, and if you can't find it there, they have it available for order, shipped or store pick up for you. Enjoy. It helps, TRUST me.

Seigea · « **Reply #33 on:** 08 May 2008, 13:14 »

i do like the cars, and don't worry, nothing is easy in MS paint. lol
The captain would be hard to draw, but all you really need is practice. get a sense of how your figure should stand. it sometimes helps to get up and pose yourself. to really feel the way to do it.

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