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[David_Dovey]

I see this thread is continuing its high standard of boarding.

[calenlass]

Hey, man, I am just trying to encourage people to look after their sexual health with education.

[David_Dovey]

Dang I thought that was gonna be another picture of disgusting genitals.

I... I think I'm disappointed?

[calenlass]

Well, Dovey, I was going to go with this, but I like the notion of sitting down with my six-year-old siblings and my mother to be lectured on the Wonder of Sex by my bow-tie-sporting dad better.


Edit: SCABIES

[Hat]

Hey is louse the singular of lice?

That is just making a whole lot of sense to me and I'm surprised it never occoured to me before.

[Johnny C]

Best of all, there definitely aren't enough people on this planet already.

I'm personally doing my part by planning to never die.

[Tom]

Hey is louse the singular of lice?

That is just making a whole lot of sense to me and I'm surprised it never occoured to me before.

Yes, like mouse and mice...pubic mice

[Something Witty]

and house and hice! OH WAIT

FUCK YOU ENGLISH

[Oerdin]

the quick question: assuming you don't have genital herpes, would you consider having casual sex with a person who has told you that he/she has genital herpes?
edit: I am in no way thinking about having sex with her. i'm just amazed that she said other healthy people have had sex with her knowing she had herpes.

the context
- became close friends with a girl/woman (she's 32).
- she wanted to sleep with me... i said no and told her it was b/c i wasn't mature enough to handle extended casual sex (i'm 26 if it matters...though the reason was that I'm just not attracted to her). she was upset, but we continued to become even better friends.
- during a serious conversation a week ago or she mentioned that she had genital herpes.
- last night she asks me to have sex with her, and i reply, "I... uh... can't really can I (because she has herpes and i don't)"
- she then tells me that it (herpes) hasn't stopped anyone else before... meaning at least three people she's friends with have had sex with her knowing that she has herpes... which just totally blew my mind.

Do people normally knowingly have casual sex with people with herpes? the entire concept just blows my mind. i just spent an hour googling herpes, and it still sounds like a dumb idea to sleep with people who have it.

disclaimer: this is my first new topic and I've probably screwed something up already, but this is the only place i can really talk about this since it involves a friend.

Herpes is only contagious if there is an outbreak at the time.  That said use a rubber and you should be safe.  I'd probably still shy away unless she was smoking hot though. 

[blaha 41]

Herpes is only contagious if there is an outbreak at the time.  That said use a rubber and you should be safe.  I'd probably still shy away unless she was smoking hot though. 

yeah, that's basically what my doctors said. "medically, i have to say ___, but yeah you'd be an idiot if you slept with someone with herpes you didn't want to maybe marry."

edit: the more i think about it, the crazier it sounds for her to expect me even to consider having a one night stand with her.    darn, i've probably totally lost a friend.

[Jimmy the Squid]

Yeah, a friend who really has no qualms about you getting genital herpes. A friend who was willing to actively deceive you by keeping that information from you the first time she propositioned you. A friend who got all offended the second time that you said you didn't want to sleep with her, even though your reason that time was based on your obviously selfish desire to not have herpes on your cock.

Give me this woman's number. Life is not hard enough. I want her to be my friend.

[est]

You can have herpes on your eye

[calenlass]

Yeah, actually, apparently that's pretty common in kids? I am not sure how or why, but yeah.

[Liz]

Infants, most likely. Mom might be having an outbreak when she's giving birth and not be aware of it. Et voila! Children with herpes on just about any body part!

[jhocking]

thanks mom

[RedLion]

So uh..where are these people with herpes on their eyes? And are they terribly horrific and gross? Because I've never seen that.

I AM GREATLY FASCINATED.

[est]

PLEASE DON'T POST PICTURES, AUGH.

[Lines]

Because I've never seen that.

Why would you WANT to?! Ugh! And yes, please no pictures!

[jhocking]

WARNING: DO NOT CLICK

[calenlass]

Herpes infection of the eye, especially in children, generally only has one outbreak and is pretty easily diagnosable because it is very distinct. A cool thing about herpes is that actually, if you get infected in one place with either simplex, you cannot reinfect yourself anywhere else in your body because you build up antibodies to it. So I think it would be awesome if there were drugs to suppress outbreaks entirely, and then you get "vaccinations" like the old smallpox vaccine - one sore in one out-of-the-way spot and then you never have to deal with it again.The world would be cured of herpes!

[Tom]

Behind the ear would be a good spot, unless you're bald or have ears that stick out but hey outbreaks don't tend to be very very frequnt.

[Spluff]

So if you get cold sores (facial herpes) you cannot get genital herpes? That's a pretty big plus for those people unfortunate enough to have gotten it on their face.

[blaha 41]

So if you get cold sores (facial herpes) you cannot get genital herpes? That's a pretty big plus for those people unfortunate enough to have gotten it on their face.

i am so not a doctor, but that sounds totally wrong. (b/c simplex 1 and simplex 2 are completely different).

[Tom]

Wrong, they are not completely different genital herpes (HSV2) is medically a condition no different to that of facial herpes (HSV1).

[idiolect]

I'm pretty sure that having oral herpes doesn't preclude you from getting genital herpes at all though -- I mean, it seems like that would be like thinking that a rash on your arm will prevent you from getting one on your leg.

[Hat]

one sore in one out-of-the-way spot and then you never have to deal with it again.The world would be cured of herpes!

So I guess i should try to get herpes on my junk then. I mean, I wouldn't want to get it somewhere like my eye where other people are actually going to see it.

[Switchblade]

Condoms are your armour in that situation.

Having said that, this looks like one of those "you've got it, you're stuck with it forever" things. All things considered, that'd be enough to cause me to say "no thanks, I'd rather not" even if it means not getting any.

[KharBevNor]

Condoms are your armour

BAND NAME.

[calenlass]

Dudes do you not read threads at all? It has already been mentioned that there are two different strains, and if you have simplex 1 it does not preclude you getting simplex 2. Simplex 1 tends to infect the oral tissues, just like simplex 2 generally infects genital areas, but you can get either anywhere, I think. However, if you already get cold sores from simplex 1then you cannot get re-infected with simplex 1 ever again because your previous infection and the antibodies you gain from it last the rest of your life. This is why I think vaccinating like smallpox would be awesome.

[butmyrobotloves]

Well, you can't get re-infected if you've already been infected with a certain simplex of herpes, because you never become UN-infected.  Herpes sticks around in your body forever.  That's why people get shingles--the chicken pox virus (yes, that's herpes too) stays in your blood and when your immune system is weakened or if you're just really unlucky it'll come back in the form of shingles.  Anyway, once you are infected with either simplex 1 or 2 it can come back at any point during your life.  Most of us already have herpes simplex one.  A lot of people got it when they were kids.  Simplex one isn't as much of a strict STD as you might think it is.  I guarantee you that a large portion of you reading this have herpes simplex one and haven't even really thought about it or realized it.  And yeah, it'll always be there, but odds are you're not going to be broken out a lot.  If  you happen to have a cold sore breakout you're supposed to shy away from oral sex, but that's about all a doctor will tell you about that one.  Most people won't have issues with simplex one because it's a relatively harmless disease.

That's about the gist of what the doctors told me.  But one last thing: people spout more bullshit about herpes thinking they're telling the truth than almost any other disease.  You would not BELIEVE the things I've heard (and checked against the doctors to be sure) spoken with utter faith by people I know.  So I guess I'm saying be careful where you get your information (that warning includes listening to me--i could be mistaken about some of this information).  Take truth from doctors only.

[jhocking]

Hell, even doctors are known to spout incorrect information sometimes.

[Ăśde]

TRUST NO-ONE.

[jimbunny]

What it takes to get this forum to stay on topic for three pages...

Also, guys, can you imagine how annoying it would be to get herpes in your nose?

[0bsessions]

That's why people get shingles--the chicken pox virus (yes, that's herpes too) stays in your blood and when your immune system is weakened or if you're just really unlucky it'll come back in the form of shingles.

My parents were once told by a doctor that I might be immune to chicken pox. This came up after both my older sister and younger brother caught it and my parents attempted to get me infected for the sake of avoiding getting it later in life (When it can cause much more severe complications, I'm told). How would this affect me herpes vulnerability-wise?

This may seem like a joke, but it's something I have never thought of before and am outright curious about.

[Lines]

I've never had chicken pox either, so that is a good question.

[ruyi]

i know i should avoid linking to wikipedia pages, but everyone ignored what i said on the bottom of page one so hopefully this helps.

the strain of herpes that causes chickenpox/shingles is distinct from the two types we've been talking about so far in this thread. thus, i doubt it would give you any immunity. also, i have a feeling that if it did, it would be pretty obvious, right? lots of people had the chickenpox when they were little, yet lots of people still get cold sores. just a guess though.

[0bsessions]

The thing that I'm wondering on is the fact that, according to a doctor, I may actually be immune to chicken pox. Not the usual, hey I caught it and it's in my blood stream forever thing, as I know how that kind of infection works due to the periodic relapses of mono I have. My parents outright shoved me in a room with my chicken pox infected siblings at the age of five for a week in an effort to infect me and it didn't take. If I'm immune to what is apparently one strain of herpes, could I potentially be immune in general? Note, this doesn't mean I'm going to run out and fuck prostitutes for the sake of a testing phase, it's just something to think about and maybe ask my doctor next time I go in.

[dennis]

update: she sent me an email while i was out tonight saying that, because i said that "i wouldn't even consider sleeping with you b/c you have herpes," we are "done" as friends.

It sounds a lot like she was just insecure that you didn't find her attractive, so to preempt that conclusion, she told you she had an STD so she could mark you up as a guy who didn't want to expose himself to herpes rather than a guy who didn't find her attractive.

[dennis]

Herpes is only contagious if there is an outbreak at the time.  That said use a rubber and you should be safe.  I'd probably still shy away unless she was smoking hot though. 

These are lies.

LIES!

It is unlikely that you'll contract herpes from someone who isn't having an outbreak, but as has been mentioned several times in this thread already, outbreak or not, herpes is contagious.

Also, a condom isn't sufficient protection against herpes transmission. Any skin to skin contact can transmit it, so if you're wearing rubber undies, you'll probably be ok. This has also been mentioned before in this thread.

Here is a good webpage that answers who can get what in terms of herpes.

[est]

Good call

[jimbunny]

What, this isn't on-topic? It's an evolving discussion, we can't stick to saying "no people usually do not sleep with people that has a known herpies infection" for one hundred and fifty replies. A thread doesn't need to consistently refer directly to the original post to be on-topic.

Actually, this thread is unusually on-topic. That was my point.

[jhocking]

What, this isn't on-topic? It's an evolving discussion, we can't stick to saying "no people usually do not sleep with people that has a known herpies infection" for one hundred and fifty replies. A thread doesn't need to consistently refer directly to the original post to be on-topic.

I disagree. The ultimate thread would start with a question, and then every post for the next 3 pages would consist solely of either "yes" or "no."

[supersheep]

I've never had chicken pox either, so that is a good question.

One of my mates got the chickenpox when she was in first year in college, and it can be quite serious apparently. It left some scars and everything. So, avoid sick kids, I guess? Also, Jon, maybe you got chickenpox but never got symptomatic? I don't know if this is possible or not, this is just a guess.

[KvP]

late-period chicken pox is called shingles and it is fucking painful. Dave Letterman got it and was out of commission for awhile.

You want to get chicken pox early.

But don't take aspirin when you get it, otherwise you'll catch retarded. Fact.

[Tom]

Guys, start using paracetamol instead, it doesn't come with the nasty "hemorrhaging of the bowels" or plain "internal hemorrhaging" side affect.

[Jimmy the Squid]

I can't take ibuprofen because it will cause my stomach to haemorrage like a motherfucker.

[Tom]

For those who don't know, ibuprofen and aspirin are both non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs or NSAIDs.

[redglasscurls]

Pshoo, shingles is not just for old people- my younger sister got it at age 15 or so, and it left a line of wicked scars perpendicular to her spine. She is 18 now and the scars are still very much there.

[calenlass]

Also for those who don't know, paracetamol is known better in the states as "acetaminophen" (tylenol).

[negative creep]

I had the chicken pox about a year ago. It was pretty bad, but not too bad.