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My "Craft" (painting miniatures)
« on: 22 Feb 2008, 09:57 »

As you might be able to tell from my avatar, I paint miniatures as a hobby, in addition to playing games with them.  Yes, I'm in touch with my inner geek, and at one point, so was Marten.  I thought maybe I'd share what I've painted, but rather than reposting all the pics, I'm simply going to post the links to the forum where they already are:

My Lord of the Rings miniatures

My Bretonnians (Knights in shining armour for those of you that do not play Warhammer)

The Norse (Vikings to most of you)

The Dragons, Giants and Trolls (do I have to explain?)

And finally, my Dwarfs (small people, beards you can hide a badger in and an unsettling prediliction for axes, hammers and beer)

Just for a little (pun intended) reference, these are what are referred to as being 25mm or 28 mm scale, meaning that an human male is sculpted to stand 25 or 28 mm tall.  That's one inch to just over an inch for those of you who aren't metric.

Enjoy.  And come pay the Realm a visit, we don't bite, and some of us have beer.
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« Reply #1 on: 22 Feb 2008, 11:55 »

Wow. These are...wow. I tried my hand at painting miniatures last year when my Dad tried to get me to play Warhammer...it didn't work. How much time does each one take you? I realize time will vary greatly depending on what they're wearing, etc., but say for a basic soldier.

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« Reply #2 on: 22 Feb 2008, 12:58 »

Marten is a fictiol character...

I used to have a 4k point catachan army for WH40K btu I think it is in the loft.

Good times then I realised it's just an RTS where you have to spend a stupid amount of money.

Still fun :D

I liked making saving rolls agaist space marines the best.

I like your painting and also your use of flock, it is awesome.
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« Reply #3 on: 22 Feb 2008, 13:34 »

Thank you for the kind words.

As to how long it takes to paint a mini, well, that depends on what it's wearing and how movitated I am.  Dwarfs for example don't take too long, as they are mostly hair and armour, and drybrushing can suffice for both.  Lets say the knights now, they take a lot longer, because everyone has individual heraldry, and most of that needs to be hand painted, so batch painting is out.

A Dwarf Warrior I can often have gone from a primed mini to a painted fig in a couple of hours, and I'll probably have 4 of his mates done alongside him.

A knight will take upwards of a couple of hours per fig (I hate painting horses...)

Characters take considerably longer, as they are centre pieces for the army, and deserve extra care.  And in the case of my Brettonnians, they are literally my family, as I have minis for myself, my wife, and each of my three sons, each with the appropriate heraldry for the family.
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« Reply #4 on: 25 Feb 2008, 07:07 »

A couple of months back I started patching up a lot of my warhammer/40k/Inquisitor/LotR stuff that had basically fallen apart in the box, and I keep thinking how I should maybe try painting some of them up again now I'm not 13, but I never get round to having enough cash to buy the requisite paints.

I could post pictures of some of my conversions here, I suppose.
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« Reply #5 on: 26 Feb 2008, 04:32 »

A couple of months back I started patching up a lot of my warhammer/40k/Inquisitor/LotR stuff that had basically fallen apart in the box, and I keep thinking how I should maybe try painting some of them up again now I'm not 13, but I never get round to having enough cash to buy the requisite paints.

I could post pictures of some of my conversions here, I suppose.

If your stuff is falling apart, try pinning the joins.  And don't worry about not being thirteen - I'm quite a bit older and still playing, and I even have a wife and kids disproving some of the rumours about gamers.
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« Reply #6 on: 23 Mar 2008, 10:59 »

How is it played? Is it expensive?

I wanted to play a few years back, and I remember thinking they were quite costly.
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« Reply #7 on: 25 Mar 2008, 08:51 »

Of the two systems that I play - Warhammer Fantasy Battles, and Lord of the Rings - Lord of the rings is definitely the less expensive of the two. 

The basic rulebook will set you back $75 for each system, and if you buy the boxed set, vice the hard cover book, will include a number of plastic miniatures (over $100.00 worth of WFB minis, or around $80 of LOTR minis) of opposing sides that will allow you play.  You can then add to your army, or start additional ones.  LOTR rules are quite easy to understand and the game is fairly quickly paced.  As a guide I was able to teach my 8 year old the LOTR game over the course of a game, while WFB is an ongoing process. 

Miniatures vary in price - plastic infantry units for LOTR come in boxes of 24 and run about $30 Cdn - all you have to do is cut them from the sprues, glue them to the bases and paint them.  Metal miniatures (which tend to have more detail) are sold in blisters of 3 for rank and file troops for $16 Cdn, or singly or paired for leader miniatures (characters like Aragorn usually come with a model on horseback and a model on foot) for $25 each (since the company sells fewer of these, they charge more).

What I've spent on the hobby shouldn't be counted here - I've been seriously playing for about 13 years, and picking up some miniatures since the early 1980s....
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« Reply #8 on: 27 Mar 2008, 16:27 »

I remember I played inquisitor for a while too, you only have 1 dude who is 3 inches tall but that is like D&D PvP I guess. Fun but again it was 40k.

You can get a model for like, 12GBP (20 bucks?) and I suggest you PDF the rulebook to see if you like it because they are mega expensive.
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« Reply #9 on: 27 Mar 2008, 18:42 »

I used to paint minitures back quite some time ago. In my younger days I played "Warhammer 40,000" Had Space Marine (Then turned Chaos because I thought Chaos were cooler) And an "Ork" army (Specifically started with the Gorka Morka set, gotta love that.)

Now I was getting chatted back into going back. a few friends had recentley started again playing as Tau, and I decided, ah why not.

As soon as I went in the door, I probably heard the most cringworthy thing i've heard in a while, now i'm a geek through and through, i've played computer games since i was 18 months old, and am proud of it. But when you walk into a room and see a man in only a loincloth, covered in green paint, screaming and cheering as he moves little minitures, makes me want to run away very quickly. BUT back on point, I know not all of you are like that, but it does scare me.

My best piece was probably a hand crafted bunker I made that involved a... retired space marine army...
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« Reply #10 on: 30 Apr 2008, 06:31 »

In addition to painting the minis, every once in a while I engage in some creative writing - not as creative as Tai, but still occasionally interesting.

I've been teaching my oldest boy to play and these are some of the battles against him:

Against The Orcs

Stop Thief!

Five Against the Horde

The Hot Trod

The More Things Change

The Mail Must Get Through

Escort Service

Seeking Absolution

Hope you enjoy the short stories.
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« Reply #11 on: 02 May 2008, 05:19 »

As soon as I went in the door, I probably heard the most cringworthy thing i've heard in a while, now i'm a geek through and through, i've played computer games since i was 18 months old, and am proud of it. But when you walk into a room and see a man in only a loincloth, covered in green paint, screaming and cheering as he moves little minitures, makes me want to run away very quickly. BUT back on point, I know not all of you are like that, but it does scare me.


It scares me too.

Back when I was a regular at the local hobby shop's games night I was the staff favourite for a couple of reasons:

a.  As an older gamer I was able to teach the newer players more patiently than most;
b.  I was quite willing to tell the parents of the new players that "No, you don't need to buy the ridiculously overpriced glue/spray primer/hobby knife/tape measure sold by this company - go to Canadian Tire and pick up a tube of Krazy Glue for $1.99, an X-Acto knife for cheap, a can of Tremclad flat black for $3.99 and a dollar store tape measure, save your money (for the minis....)";
c.  Somehow a middle aged guy in a collared shirt with a tie puts parents at ease when they drop off little Timmy for a game, and see that a lot of the players are wearing heavy metal t-shirts and work boots; and
d.  I could carry on a reasonably intelligent conversation about something other than the game.
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« Reply #12 on: 02 May 2008, 08:03 »

I need to find a way to strip the thick, blotchy paint from the space marines I painted when I was 11-13. I kinda want to convert them into a chaos army or something. Even better would be getting some imperial guard and doing them up to look like slightly futuristic soldiers, but I have like 300s worth of marines. I think I still have a shitload of orcs and goblins in the attic if anyone wants them?
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« Reply #13 on: 02 May 2008, 11:14 »

There are a couple of ways to strip paint from minis:

a.  The most enviromentally friendly way is to soak the minis in a pine cleaner (I use Pinesol) overnight, and then scrub the mini with an old toothbrush under running water.  This works on both metal and plastic minis and doesn't soften the plastic, but may cause the glue to give way;
b.  Varsol - Again, let soak overnight.  This is not enviromentally friendly, needs to be done outdoors (unless you really like that sort of headache) and is not recommended for plastics, but it strips old paint like nobody's business.  You will need to use this if you used enamel paints;
c.  Oven cleaner - again, not recommended for plastics.  Spray, leave for 20 minutes or so and scrub with a toothbrush.

I use the pine cleaner method myself. It's cheaper than the other methods I know of, and cleaner.
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« Reply #14 on: 02 May 2008, 20:08 »

Converting minis can become alot of fun.

I have imperial guards who became counterstrike models, both T's and CT's and I am planning on making CoD4 minatures in summer.

Next I need to make some maps...
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« Reply #15 on: 03 May 2008, 16:49 »

I have imperial guards who became counterstrike models, both T's and CT's and I am planning on making CoD4 minatures in summer.

Okay now that I would like to see, any chance you could share some of those minitures with us? (Through the medium of photography of course!).

I'm always amazed at conversions, my attempts at any type of conversion are (well were) painstakingly hard and  I only suceeded in transforming five into tortured carcasses (Out of 19 I used) the failed models I decided to cut up and use as bits as decor.

So my work took about a month, and it didn't look too bad. I just cringed whenever I messed up carving one of the minitures. (Instantly saw my money flicker away)
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« Reply #16 on: 03 May 2008, 17:40 »

Personally, I believe in simple conversions, done well, but occasionally I branch out:

Converting Questing Knights

and Modelling Myself
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« Reply #17 on: 04 May 2008, 18:19 »

It was the guns that were a pain to make, imagine using green stuff epoxy to turn a lasgun into an m4 carbine.

They were messy and reside in my dads loft(attic) but I go to see him the weekend of the 10th which is next weekend, I'll see if I can rake them out :)
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« Reply #18 on: 05 May 2008, 05:37 »

Converting any weapon with a pistol grip into a weapon with a straight stock is likely more trouble than its worth.  Making them into tommyguns would be easier.
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« Reply #19 on: 05 May 2008, 18:35 »

Tommy guns... in CS:S that would be b3...9?

I wanted to stay true to the game, will look them out on Sunday if I have a chance.
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« Reply #20 on: 06 May 2008, 05:42 »

Personally, I believe in simple conversions, done well, but occasionally I branch out:

I used to mod all the models I could really, it was half the fun for me. I think I have a rhino with leman russ tracks. I will try the pinesol thing, thanks!
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« Reply #21 on: 20 May 2008, 12:05 »

A little more fluff in Dispatches from the Front
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« Reply #22 on: 23 May 2008, 06:40 »

I rescued this piece from my middle son, who'd taken the primed fig and slapped Snot Green rather thickly on part of the model.  I'm pleased with how the belly's skin tones worked out, but less so with the shift from the lighter belly and face to the darker back.  Anyways, here it is the Mines of Moria Cave Troll.





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« Reply #23 on: 23 May 2008, 13:34 »

I dunno but I thought something about "you could use a blur intensity of about 75 a few times" and got pissed off at myself.

Damn you fireworks.
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« Reply #24 on: 25 May 2008, 06:00 »

This was posted to my thread in Warhammer Realm and I thought people here might like it:

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« Reply #25 on: 27 May 2008, 16:04 »

I love my Tau and Lizardmen. Games-Workshop is a money grabbing company, but their games are so addicting!
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« Reply #26 on: 27 May 2008, 19:02 »

I've got a bunch of dwarves that I bought in 2005. I just dug them out of the deep corner of a closet they were hiding in and overall they're a bit beaten up, and some of them aren't even painted, but there's potential I think in going back through and repairing/finishing and such to em. I've got a few minor conversions in the army, and if I get them fixed maybe I'll post them up here.
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« Reply #27 on: 07 Jun 2008, 16:39 »

I added a few more pics to my Bretonnian thread - mostly some more men at arms

Flashman's Few


Sir Livingstone's lance Bearer


The Regimental Drunk


The Friar


One of the better equipped men at arms.  I'm trying to represent battle damage to the shield with a variety of nicks and cuts.  to represent this, I cut  notch in the shield, and then after painting it in the heraldic colours paint the notch with graveyard earth, and then filled in most of the notch with some bleached bone.  What do you think?


The Light in the Darkness


the Mace


The Man with the Axe
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« Reply #28 on: 07 Jun 2008, 22:02 »

Some really nice work there. I think that if the notches were shorter and more pronounced, perhaps with some added patterns like claw marks or something else more interesting to add a bit of extra flair, Bretonnian soldiers have to defend their ranks from more than just other humans after all. And don't be afraid to take out big chips here and there, and make some ragged. If you're going to do it make it nice and messy.

I think rather than painting the gouges individually after painting the shield colors on that it would be good to give the shields a good undercoat of the Graveyard Earth, or maybe even Snakebite leather to represent a different color of underlying wood, then paint the heraldric colors on top, and highlight the with bleached bone very carefully last. I think the slightly different order would make it easier on you, and also make it to where messing up becomes less dangerous, and makes the gouges look less painted on. I know from looking at your banners and symbols that you are really gifted at the fine detail work, so its not really much my place, but on the blue and silver mace-wielding guy they look pretty painted. The regimental drunk looks absolutely gorgeous though and is definitely my favorite of this particular set of your guys.

Ooh, and maybe a little Gore or dark ink wash on the shield for some dried blood, for those especially fresh from the fight soldiers.But thats just coming from me. I love adding bloody gore to miniatures, when i had Orcs and Goblins I had an especially tricked out and bloodied up group of Black Orcs who had some interesting conversions...
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« Reply #29 on: 05 Jul 2008, 11:53 »

Finally got around to painting a Ringwraith.  Anyone who wants a challenge should try highlighting black (and still have it look like black, not grey)





And also to sculpting a shield for one of my warriors - I made it out of epoxy putty and I tried to make it look like the Whitham Shield.





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« Reply #30 on: 05 Jul 2008, 16:18 »

Lovely stuff, I particularly enjoy your men at arms. I'm also a warhammer hobbyist, I'll post some of my work when I get my camera back, but your work puts mine to shame.
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« Reply #31 on: 20 Aug 2008, 14:17 »

Thank you, I'm a big fan of MAA myself.

And now some new works:

A Khazad Guard made from a plastic warrior



The King of the Dead



And Gimli sitting on No. 42



Coming soon  The Well of Galadriel
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« Reply #32 on: 24 Aug 2008, 16:38 »

Been a while since I visited the Dwarf Thread, but this past weekend I thought I'd build the buildings from the campaign pack The Grudge of Drong.

And now my Dwarf King must

Open the Ale Hall







And even the back door was in business

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« Reply #33 on: 24 Aug 2008, 17:09 »

Man, that one was a while back, wasn't it? I remember being a huge huge Warhammer fan back then. I'm pretty sure I still have the additional building that came in White Dwarf the issue that campaign was released kicking around somewhere. Then I kinda grew out of it, and by grew out of it I mean I became a teenager, realised that girls were kinda interesting and that nerdery was not the best thing to have.

Then I realised that a) fuck that, I do not want to go out with someone who is that sickened by my nerdy habits, and b) nerdy ladies are far cooler than non-nerdy ones. So now I have a bunch of Imperial Guardsmen lying around in my cupboard back home. This time round, I intend on painting them properly, making them look good and all that. Putting in a lot of effort, taking my time. Also, if you are concerned about the cost and not overly worried about playing in GW stores, you could build your own vehicles etc out of plasticard - there are a lot of papercraft designs out there for them. Paying 30 for 20 guardsmen is a bit ridiculous - I remember when you could get ten for 5, and because the Irish and British pounds were close but not the same, I think Ireland was the cheapest place to pick them up for a while.

So, how did folks get involved in their Warhammer habits? I was seven, when I found a book on D&D, and also my first WD (issue 179, when Titan Legions came out). Space Marine was my first game, followed by Warhammer (5th edition with the Bretonnians and Lizardmen), Gorkamorka, and Battlefleet Gothic. I played Undead for quite a while, when Nagash was still in the army list. I guess I will buy 40k at some point in the future, when I have a bit of an army and some time for gaming.
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« Reply #34 on: 24 Aug 2008, 18:56 »

Oh man, its a warhammer thread. I don't want to derail with my stuff, but I too indulge into this "craft."

I love it, in fact over at my personal blog, pantsart.blogspot.com, you can see some of the stuff I painted. I haven't updated much, but once I have a camera and an internet connection at my home I will update it much more often.
I like your stuff though Border Reiver. It looks good, I especially like those Brettonian conversions. I think the Men At Arms are some of the coolest miniatures available right now.
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« Reply #35 on: 25 Aug 2008, 04:42 »

Thanks for the compliments

I got started back around 1980, when a couple of friends picked up D&D Basic ed.  We then started with a few of these neat little toys sold in plastic baggies and stapled to yellow cardstock.  I got out of the minis for about 5 years, then started painting historical minis (70mm scale models of personages like Attila, Vlad Tepes, victorian soldiers), and then around '95 the Warhammer bug bit, just as the GW store was opening up in Ottawa, and the rest is history.  I joined in for the hobby (I was single and had free time in the evenings to paint and socialize over a game) and stayed because I found it relaxing and enjoyable. 

And now, I get to inflict it on you folks.
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« Reply #36 on: 25 Aug 2008, 08:25 »

Well, you've been in the hobby longer than I've been alive.
Heck the store I go to (indy retailer) has been open for 10 years.
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« Reply #37 on: 26 Aug 2008, 11:11 »

Damn, i'm glad somebody has some skill at this.  My hands shake a little too much for it, but anyhow, my Templar Dreadnought in progress




Still have a long way to go on it yet.  Glue the smoke launcher back on for one
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« Reply #38 on: 26 Aug 2008, 11:34 »

Steadying your hands is best accomplished by placing your elbows on a firm surface such as a table or desk top, then have your wrists touch while you paint.  It takes a little practice but it dramatically steadies your hands.  My oldest has just learned this technique and his painting has improved dramatically.
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« Reply #39 on: 27 Aug 2008, 13:04 »

I'm working on some Blood Angels, i'll try and put that technique to use.  I'll try anything that improves my painting.  Heh, I should find some of my first Templars and post 'em in here.  Not pretty
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« Reply #40 on: 30 Aug 2008, 04:11 »

My first models had paint on them, it was close to the right spots, but it was by no means the level of what I do now.

Also, as an aside, I nearly fully sculpted a Herald of Slaanesh the other night. It is full of daemonic goodness. She(?) is ready to pleasure her opponents. WITH DEATH
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« Reply #41 on: 30 Aug 2008, 06:02 »

Less talk - More piccies.
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« Reply #42 on: 05 Sep 2008, 12:02 »

Wow.  Hadn't been to Forge World in a  while, and after browsing tonight I have now found my next purchase.  I "squeeeed" like a damn schoolgirl when I first saw this, if that gives any indication of how pumped I am.

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« Reply #43 on: 05 Sep 2008, 14:26 »

Heavy flamers = win.

My Jungle imperial guard agree.
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« Reply #44 on: 05 Sep 2008, 15:13 »

I love what Forge World has done with the Mk 4 Dreads.  I might end up with 4 or 5 if i'm not careful

Edit: Here are a couple of my Blood Angels











Heh, looking at that last picture, noticed some things i need to fix

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« Reply #45 on: 06 Sep 2008, 02:17 »

like that you need to base them :0
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« Reply #46 on: 06 Sep 2008, 02:52 »

So yeah I just went on ebay and got a bunch of unopened plastic jungle fighters.

Gonna rebuild my 2k point army with more insight than that of the 12 year old that built it first time round, seriously what was I thinking?
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« Reply #47 on: 06 Sep 2008, 07:49 »

Meh, I'm just doing a quick and dirty job on them for now.  I'll worry about the bases later.
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« Reply #48 on: 06 Sep 2008, 12:02 »

Here's a couple of tips:

a.  The job may be "quick and dirty", but that shouldn't mean messy.  Your paint brush slipped a few times,  go back and fix the slips;
b.  Thin your paint a little when you paint, as there is some clumping in your reds.  Red and yellow paint are infamous for not having a lot of pigment in the solution, so this will likely mean multiple layers;
c.  Smooth finishes look good, even if you don't paint highlights and shadows, a neat smooth finish still looks good.  Strive for it on all of your models.  We're not all Golden Daemon winners, but we can all strive for neat models.
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« Reply #49 on: 06 Sep 2008, 13:33 »

Part of the problem is the wash i use.  It's a quick and easy way to bring out depth and fill in some holes, but the darker pigment tends to stick around, and it dries pretty quick as well, which means sometimes i get a little more shading than i bargained for.  Still, whats a good mix for the red?  90/10 paint/water?  less or more?
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