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[Nodaisho]

I saw the first one Townsend smashed, when he tried throwing it up in the air, it hit the ground and didn't play right, that one almost made me cry, but smashing a perfectly good one is just wrong.

[Ikrik]

No, seriously guys, when have you seen an actual good guitarist destroy a guitar? Apart from Hendrix?

Yeah but if you think about it most "good" guitarists probably don't want to fork out an incredible amount of money to replace that guitar when they need to spend it on other things.....like food.

[MadassAlex]

Yeah but see, even the ones with money don't do it.

[imapiratearg]

god i hate pete townsend

I really don't like The Who either.

[E. Spaceman]

For the record, I am 100% behind sonic youth's use of guitars. From scraping them against the floor to taking out the kinda shitty pickups for humbuckers (ruining the omgvintage value). A guitar is a tool that should be used to whatever mean you need. Like books, all my favourite books are dogeared and beat up and have chocolate stains.

[Jackie Blue]

I really don't like The Who either.

...what?

There are people who don't like The Who?

[atimholt]

All this guitar smashing causes me musical pain. I started playing guitar three weeks ago and have been playing day and night nonstop since. I'm going to wait 6 months before buying a guitar of my own just so I'll appreciate it more when I get it. To start a guitar collection of sorts--the idea sends shivers down my spine.
It's probably just a phase, this over-reverence for the physical instrument. In my current mindset, it's just strange to see talented musicians who have no respect for their outlet. I suppose if I were rich and famous, I wouldn't care as much. Personally, though, I'd never smash my guitar. I'd spend all my money on exotically custom drool-inducing instruments. Experiment around and stuff in ways I otherwise couldn't.
As for nickleback (you know, the subject of this thread), um... don't suppose they smash their guitars? Actually, that'd be really funny.

[A Wet Helmet]

what


what


WHAT

Well... That show was, um... *counts fingers and toes* --almost 19 years ago, so my memory could be a little off.  Arena rock shows in the 80s meant you were going home stoned out of your mind even if you didn't smoke yourself just from the contact high.   So I don't want to testify in court that my memory is 100% correct because I couldn't even tell you what I ate for breakfast two days ago, you know?

I'll will say that he changed guitars before he did it and told us what it was.  I'm 95% certain it was a telecaster and I'm 80% certain he said it was a '59.   Maybe it was a '60 or a '61, but when he smashed it I vividly remember thinking "holy shit I can't believe he did that. "     I also think that I attended the other D.C. show than the one I linked because the encore at the show I saw was Summertime Blues and not Twist and Shout.  So either that website has the setlist backwards or my memory has already proven to be wrong in regards to the event because I know I got tickets to the second show they announced after the first sold out.

Regardless, the point is he smashed something that made my then teenage mind go "AAAAAAAHHHH why did he do that??!!??" and then I was sad.  I'm pretty sure it was a '59 tele.

[Nodaisho]

It's probably just a phase, this over-reverence for the physical instrument.

If so, it will last a while. I would fall asleep holding my guitar if I didn't know I would end up waking myself up by lying on it. And that is with a crappy instrument, I am not even sure if I can adjust the action, where (I think, I was getting directions over the phone) my friend has hex screws, mine has this little rubbery plastic straw-ish things.

[Patrick]

I would fall asleep holding my guitar if I didn't know I would end up waking myself up by lying on it.

In b4 "making love to your instrument"

god i hate pete townsend
 

It's okay dude, he's stopped doing horrible horrible shit like that and has moved on to child porn. IT'S OKAY MAN

[Nodaisho]

In b4 "making love to your instrument"

Don't be stupid, there is no way it would work.

...Not that I have thought about it at great lengths or anything.

[Thrillho]

For the record, I am 100% behind sonic youth's use of guitars. From scraping them against the floor to taking out the kinda shitty pickups for humbuckers (ruining the omgvintage value). A guitar is a tool that should be used to whatever mean you need.

I agree to a point. My Tele is my baby, and so I don't do anything to it - but my Yammy, I have fucked about with mercilessly. It's currently got five strings tuned DADAD - I love Sonic Youth's approach to guitar.

[KharBevNor]

A guitar is a vehicle of artwork; a car is a vehicle of glorified pedestrians.

Man, don't be an idiot. Guitars are made in factories, just like cars. There's no difference between the two objects at all.

Also, why is this asshole with the hard-on for glasspaper making out like it's a really difficult thing to change a string? I've gone through periods where I had to change the string every week.

[IronOxide]

No, seriously guys, when have you seen an actual good guitarist destroy a guitar? Apart from Hendrix?

I am now going to devote the rest of my life to getting Paco de Lucia to smash a guitar.

[Patrick]

Don't be stupid, there is no way it would work.

Anus.

That is all.

[MadassAlex]

Man, don't be an idiot. Guitars are made in factories, just like cars. There's no difference between the two objects at all.

No, I meant that a guitar makes art.


I would probably pay a visual artist to destroy their painting with a paintbrush.

[KharBevNor]

How much? I'm a bit strapped for cash.

It's one of my lifes ambitions to buy a Rothko, and then paint over it with a picture of a vase of flowers or some puppies.

[MadassAlex]

Cover it in seashells first.

[Cernunnos]

Don't forget the sequins

[Nodaisho]

I think you found a use for those jars of urine, Khar.

[diablo_man]

good to know you guys are all on track here. i think nickelback would smash high quality instruments, they seem like the type.


but yes, truly amazing guitar players never break their instruments. like steve vai's evo guitar, playing it for like decades, its got massive structural issues and cracs now, but he keeps it off deaths door because it is his baby.

[Caspian]

For the record, I am 100% behind sonic youth's use of guitars. From scraping them against the floor to taking out the kinda shitty pickups for humbuckers (ruining the omgvintage value). A guitar is a tool that should be used to whatever mean you need. Like books, all my favourite books are dogeared and beat up and have chocolate stains.

I agree with this statement completely, but having said that If I had a '59 Les Paul I can't really see myself dragging it around on a floor, or whacking it with stuff or changing the humbuckers etc. I wouldn't have any problem doing this with my epiphone explorer, though.

[Ikrik]

good to know you guys are all on track here. i think nickelback would smash high quality instruments, they seem like the type.

Yeah...and they'd make a huge deal out of it.  "yeah, when we smashed our guitars onstage....it was really a statement about the state of rock-and-roll and how we're the only band out there that rocks." or some concieted bullcrap like that.  Then they'd have even MORE of a female fan-base who are all "OMG Nickelback broke their guitars ON STAGE! Clearly this means I must throw my panties to them."  And all their male fans would be like "Must buy guitar....to smash....grrrr."  Man....I hate Nickelback. I mean seriously, the guys create the same 2 songs over and over again (one "rock" and the other "soft") just to make tons of money.

[Thrillho]

Yeah. No-one else has ever done that.

[A Wet Helmet]

It dawned on me today while in the car listening to the classic rock station that Nickleback is Bad Company for the 21st century.

Yeah... That's about as deep as I get.

[Beastmouth]

For the record, I am 100% behind sonic youth's use of guitars. From scraping them against the floor to taking out the kinda shitty pickups for humbuckers (ruining the omgvintage value). A guitar is a tool that should be used to whatever mean you need. Like books, all my favourite books are dogeared and beat up and have chocolate stains.

I agree with this statement completely, but having said that If I had a '59 Les Paul I can't really see myself dragging it around on a floor, or whacking it with stuff or changing the humbuckers etc. I wouldn't have any problem doing this with my epiphone explorer, though.

If I had a 59 Les Paul, I could see myself getting a house and a few guitars I like instead! 

[Jepser]

If memory serves, Pete smashed a 59 telecaster when I saw them.

god i hate pete townsend
 

That's like bombing a pyramid! o_O

[Nodaisho]

It dawned on me today while in the car listening to the classic rock station that Nickleback is Bad Company for the 21st century.

Yeah... That's about as deep as I get.

Hey, I like bad company.

Bombing the pyramids? They do that in the Camp Chaos powerslave video.

[RedLion]

I really don't like The Who either.

Try being named after one of their albums.

Tommy is a great album. And an even better movie.

[Jepser]

It dawned on me today while in the car listening to the classic rock station that Nickleback is Bad Company for the 21st century.

Yeah... That's about as deep as I get.

Hey, I like bad company.

Bombing the pyramids? They do that in the Camp Chaos powerslave video.

Culture barbarians. The pyramids are awesome. Just like Tele's.

[Nodaisho]

You mean they are ugly things that look like they should have been rough concept pieces, and should have had much more polish after the first prototype?

And it is the bad guys bombing the pyramids, bad guys are supposed to be despicable, otherwise it confuses things.

[Caspian]

For the record, I am 100% behind sonic youth's use of guitars. From scraping them against the floor to taking out the kinda shitty pickups for humbuckers (ruining the omgvintage value). A guitar is a tool that should be used to whatever mean you need. Like books, all my favourite books are dogeared and beat up and have chocolate stains.

I agree with this statement completely, but having said that If I had a '59 Les Paul I can't really see myself dragging it around on a floor, or whacking it with stuff or changing the humbuckers etc. I wouldn't have any problem doing this with my epiphone explorer, though.

If I had a 59 Les Paul, I could see myself getting a house and a few guitars I like instead! 

I dunno, man. A House or a 59 Les Paul is a pretty touch choice, but I guess I'd have enough to get a house and a new Les Paul, which would still be quite awesome.

[Jepser]

You mean they are ugly things that look like they should have been rough concept pieces, and should have had much more polish after the first prototype?

And it is the bad guys bombing the pyramids, bad guys are supposed to be despicable, otherwise it confuses things.

If you don't like them, then why don't you build a pyramid/Telecaster? xD Just 'cause they're based on a simple design doesn't make them anything less awesome.  It actually makes them cooler IMHO, I don't like baroque metal guitars with every single inch overly decorated.

[Nodaisho]

What, you mean like the one Diablo has? The Schecter CR-1 classic? That thing is beautiful, but I could see it distracting people from the player in favor of the guitar. I still want to get a custom-painted guitar eventually, though.

I don't make a pyramid because I don't have enough space in my backyard. And I am lazy. I don't make a tele because I don't want a tele, I don't have the supplies, I am broke, and I am lazy.

Even a bit of modification can help the look of a guitar quite a bit, how much harder is it to use the jigsaw to get a strat-shaped body than a tele-shaped body?

[KharBevNor]

The Stratocaster only has one extra horny bit.

[Jepser]

The cutout on the Tele is functional at least, it makes it possible to reach all frets without breaking a hand. Having a cutout on the other side is pretty 'n all, but it doesn't really make sense. Which explains why the Tele came earlier than the Strat.

[Patrick]

I find that the second cutout on the Strat is still really useful. Sometimes instead of having to have my thumb cramped against a right angle, I like to have it comfortably wrapped around the neck. Hence my preference of the SG over the Les Paul, even if it doesn't balance for shit (besides, Les Pauls are clunky, heavy, bruise-the-fuck-out-of-your-thighs chunkmonsters, which also applies to Teles in comparison to Strats).

[laizeohbeets]

But the sound on a Tele!

I think Les Pauls are overrated (though they are beautiful, beautiful guitars), but Teles... man. They have a sweet, sweet sound. I'm not a big fan of Strats.

[Deranged Pineapple]

Friends don't let friends listen to Nickelback. Hmm...

What if your friends are extremely stubborn?? My best friend is like that. I can't get her away from that band. 

[Nodaisho]

The Stratocaster only has one extra horny bit.

And that extra bit helps it a lot, like I said, it isn't much different, but it helps. And of course, the part holding the bridge pickup on the teles is horrible, and the part with the knobs is bad.

And Patrick, remember, the new Les Pauls are chambered, so they won't be so damn heavy.

He is right about the extra cut-away, the double-cut makes the high frets much easier, even just the 15th, not even talking about the 17+ frets.

[diablo_man]

or you know, you could go with a superstrat style with a 24 fret neck. even if you never use the 24th or 23rd fret, it makes the other high register playing much easier.

[Nodaisho]

Yeah, when I was looking for a new guitar, a couple super-strats were in my candidates, but for the cost, I think the faded special SG is better than any super-strat I saw, and one of the guitarists that is in a couple of my favorite bands plays SGs and ESP Vipers, so I figure that I can get that kind of sound out of the SG.

[Tom]

Don't we have a guitar thread for a reason?

[Jepser]

Guitars deserve multiple threads, and Nickelback honestly doesn't deserve a single thread.

[RobbieOC]

                                           Hey, fella. I like Nickleback!   
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[KarStealer]

Strap him to a chair and pour indie on him? Friends let friends strap them to chairs.

[Patrick]

Man, I should hang out with YOUR friends.