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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #50 on: 05 May 2008, 13:32 »

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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #51 on: 05 May 2008, 13:41 »

no no, scotlands nice, its just the people that ruin it

you are a true highlander*

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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #52 on: 05 May 2008, 13:58 »

Umm...

I'm from the UK, but I'm not a real person yet because my postcount = 1.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #53 on: 05 May 2008, 15:29 »

Scotlands not all bad, at least we don't have tropical diseases.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #54 on: 05 May 2008, 15:42 »

The concept of not really existing until you've dedicated a certain number of hours and posts to the QC forums is kinda cool. And worryingly believable.

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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #55 on: 05 May 2008, 15:45 »

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« Reply #56 on: 05 May 2008, 17:28 »

FUCK YOU SCHOOL I KICKED YOUR ASS

YEAH SUMMER WOO


ALSO I WILL PROLLY BE IN GLASGAE AGAIN SOMETOME ROUND THE 12 OR 13 OF THIS MONTH




WE SHOULD PARTAY



(IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING I WILL ALSO BE HITTING UP BRIGHTON AND LONDON AND THEN MEETING MY MUM AND DAD IN PARIS)

(IF THAT WOULD WORK BETTR)


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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #57 on: 05 May 2008, 17:30 »

no no, scotlands nice, its just the people that ruin it

you are a true highlander*

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Is not the same as

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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #58 on: 05 May 2008, 17:55 »

In the words of old harry's game.

Andy Hamilton / Devil

"Heaven is just like Scotland...just without all the Scots... Actually is there nay Scots in heaven Scumspawn?"
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #59 on: 06 May 2008, 01:02 »

That picture's wrong: real Scots don't put ice in whisky.

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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #60 on: 06 May 2008, 03:14 »

There has been a Glasgow meetubp before AND IT WAS AWESOME.

And I couldn't make it. Next time you have to ask my express permission, as if I can't make it and have fun then nobody can.  :police:
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #61 on: 06 May 2008, 05:54 »

you are a true highlander*

*(scotch person)

Is not the same as

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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #62 on: 06 May 2008, 11:21 »

damn right

man I've been sober for a week and that's a nice picture of some scotch though

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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #63 on: 06 May 2008, 13:30 »

no no, scotlands nice, its just the people that ruin it

you are a true highlander*

*(scotch person)

nae, im a southerner.. from london...scots hate me
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #64 on: 06 May 2008, 14:41 »

How did you incite the fury of a rather large, loosely connected, group of people?
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #65 on: 06 May 2008, 14:43 »

Scots in general kind of resent the English. Or so I've been told.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #66 on: 06 May 2008, 14:56 »

Is that why my mum doesn't love me and my dad anymore?
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #67 on: 06 May 2008, 14:59 »

I'd say now there is a group of Scots that hate the English. There is also the largely better informed, more intelligent group of people that resents the image these "Scots" give to us by going around hating everything that fucking moves. Granted there is a history of Scots and English fighting, the key word there though is history.

I just get really fucking pissed off when people randomly say they hate the English, it seems that its excusable to be racist when its towards the English. Same goes for any racist comment really.

I think I'm ranting mildly but i don't care.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #68 on: 06 May 2008, 15:04 »

Scotch and English are different races?

Fuckin' British all look the same to me.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #69 on: 06 May 2008, 15:13 »

I'd say now there is a group of Scots that hate the English. There is also the largely better informed, more intelligent group of people that resents the image these "Scots" give to us by going around hating everything that fucking moves. Granted there is a history of Scots and English fighting, the key word there though is history.

I just get really fucking pissed off when people randomly say they hate the English, it seems that its excusable to be racist when its towards the English. Same goes for any racist comment really.

I think I'm ranting mildly but i don't care.

Nah, that's fair enough. A lot of English people really don't realise how xenophobic Scottish culture can get sometimes. My Grandma used to get a Scottish paper sent down (I forget which one) but she had to stop because she couldn't take their constant assaults on anything English using the slightest of excuses. And if you're a Londoner then you're doubly fucked since that's the base of political and economic power, so the worst possible place you could be from. Hell, a fair chunk of the rest of England has a problem with anyone from below the Midlands and west of Cornwall.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #70 on: 06 May 2008, 15:19 »

All up on the road to Glencoe/Fort William was graffiti saying 'go home' etc. Although I kinda agree with that, tourists are terrible things (I don't think I count as a tourist as I was there to hike up mountains, ski, and drink real ale, not just stop along the road and take photos of the landscape).
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #71 on: 06 May 2008, 15:24 »

Drinking and skiing? That sounds like really typical tourist behaviour.

The nastiest anti-tourist sentiment I ever came across was in Cornwall though. Someone had fallen off the pier at low tide and tied. The reaction of some passing locals was to laugh and say "plenty more where that came from".
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« Reply #72 on: 06 May 2008, 15:25 »

I was just talking about this phenomena. I've spent the last few days in the north of England and it reminded me of something remarkable about the UK. You can travel about 30 miles in any direction and the place you have arrived in will have people who speak completely differently to how they spoke where you were when you started. Like, a whole other accent and sometimes a new lexicon to consider. I know this is true of other countries but I don't think it's confined to such a small area anywhere else. City to city, people have seriously bizarre accents. Especially up North.

With regards to the English/Scottish thing. I was born in England and I have that BBC/'proper' English accent. I've been living in Scotland for a couple of years now and without exception everyone in Scotland seems to like me more when they realise I am English. Everyone who lives around me is lovely to the point that I don't actually do any maintenance around the house because it all gets done for me. Really insanely nice people. Like, you come home and they've collected your mail, returned your bin and also left a crate of fresh vegetables they have grown for you. Scottish women find me charming, Scottish men find me inoffensive. I've still yet to come across anything approaching hostility. Personal experience but still relevant.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #73 on: 06 May 2008, 15:32 »

I think it might be tied to the accent. The 'proper' English accent does come across itself as charming and inoffensive. In other parts of England, the accent might sound angry, naive, obnoxious or any number of undesirable traits. Less to do with the fact you're English, more to do with how they perceive you because of the way you speak?
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« Reply #74 on: 06 May 2008, 15:34 »

It's all about the connotations the accent has for people really. Like most prejudices it will tend to come out the most in the places where people are poorest and therefore angriest, or where there are for example historical reasons for the animosity that still resonate. For example, I have an accent that doesn't fit with the area I grew up in, I'm routinely mistaken for being either very middle class or Southern. In a lot of areas this doesn't matter, but if I'm on a council estate then it can cause problems. The reason is that my voice has associations for some people with wealth and therefore power, and the same goes for my English accent in certain areas of Scotland. If you encounter people who feel powerless then prejudices will come out, covering up what's really going on: "I feel I have no power and I resent the fact that, in my perception, you do."
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #75 on: 06 May 2008, 15:37 »

Drinking and skiing? That sounds like really typical tourist behaviour.

Skiing is always necessary and I was sampling the local real ale that was on tap (this is more exciting when you consider what's served around here).

Scottish people have always been really nice to me, even in the less pleasant parts of Glasgow.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #76 on: 06 May 2008, 15:39 »

Tommy, did you ever stop tyo think they're only l;ooking after you so they can happily sacrifice a happy/content Dski to their evil or just operating-under-a different-moral-code pagan god?
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #77 on: 06 May 2008, 15:40 »

They're probably fattening him up so that they can eat him.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #78 on: 06 May 2008, 15:45 »

Like, you come home and they've collected your mail, returned your bin and also left a crate of fresh vegetables they have grown for you.

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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #79 on: 06 May 2008, 15:47 »

Skiing is always necessary and I was sampling the local real ale that was on tap (this is more exciting when you consider what's served around here).

Scottish people have always been really nice to me, even in the less pleasant parts of Glasgow.

Glasgow's a nice city, I frequently toy with the idea of moving up there. It has a bit of a bad rep, what with being the murder capital of Europe for ages (I think Limerick now has the title), but it's a pretty nice place.

I wasn't saying you were up to anything wrong, skiing and real ale are good things! Just that it is being a tourist. There's nothing wrong with that either though, at least not in principle.
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« Reply #80 on: 06 May 2008, 15:48 »

They're probably fattening him up so that they can eat him.

They already succeeded. Fattydski.
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« Reply #81 on: 06 May 2008, 16:20 »

I'm routinely mistaken for being either very middle class or Southern. In a lot of areas this doesn't matter, but if I'm on a council estate then it can cause problems. The reason is that my voice has associations for some people with wealth and therefore power

In my case, I am middle class and southern; sorry, but I can't help it.  Either I have been lucky, or perhaps I have by chance successfully avoided the possibility of conflict, but speaking perfect RP* has caused no problems in my life; but neither does it represent my having either wealth or power - I have neither, and it shows.  Rather, it has led to the occasional friendship, e.g. from people (OK, Americans :-P) coming up to me in an aeroplane simply to listen to me speak. To round off the stereotype, I even worked at the BBC for a time!

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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #82 on: 06 May 2008, 17:01 »

I was born in England and I have that BBC/'proper' English accent.

i pictured you as having a mark e smith-type english accent.

way to shatter the illusion tommy.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #84 on: 06 May 2008, 17:21 »

I think he should do voice overs for things.

I also think that you need to post in the voices thread, Jens. Get to it.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #85 on: 06 May 2008, 17:23 »

I was surprised at Tommy's voice, and I've had long conversations with him.
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« Reply #86 on: 06 May 2008, 17:25 »

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Actually, I am from the other side of the Pennines in Leeds, West Yorkshire. Smith is from Lancashire, which is essentially the rival county to the West. There's a lot of shit historically between Yorkshire and Lancashire. In the fifteenth century both counties fought sporadic wars to decide which side of the Plantagenet royal family should inherit the crown of England. There was no real resolution and the enmity still exists between sporting teams and the like.

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Jesus Christ that is entirely not how I imaginated Tommy's voice.

I thought you'd heard my voice on one of the radio shows that myself and Tania did last year.
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« Reply #87 on: 06 May 2008, 17:43 »

well i did not know what part of england you are from until now, tommy. 
i just thought hey, he is british and actually listens to the fall, so that's where the association formed.

nevertheless, british accents are awesome and such.  er, i was going to say something else here but then decided against it because would make it sound like i have some sort of creepy internet crush on you
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« Reply #88 on: 06 May 2008, 17:46 »

I always heard him in my mind as being a little bit more nasal, but with pretty much the same dialect.
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« Reply #89 on: 06 May 2008, 18:17 »

I would like to say that Tommy's reading voice sounds less foppish than his conversation voice, from what I remember listening to Tania's radio show.
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« Reply #90 on: 06 May 2008, 18:53 »

foppish

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« Reply #91 on: 07 May 2008, 04:21 »

That must be why all your girlfriends want to fop me.

That or Toxoplasma Gondii.
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« Reply #92 on: 07 May 2008, 04:22 »

I was just talking about this phenomena. I've spent the last few days in the north of England and it reminded me of something remarkable about the UK. You can travel about 30 miles in any direction and the place you have arrived in will have people who speak completely differently to how they spoke where you were when you started. Like, a whole other accent and sometimes a new lexicon to consider. I know this is true of other countries but I don't think it's confined to such a small area anywhere else. City to city, people have seriously bizarre accents. Especially up North.

I was thinking about this the other day, and it really is something. I went to Bristol a few weeks back and having never been there before, I spent a good while chuckling at the farmer accent that the friends of my friend had, while they in turn were mocking me and the southern/london hybrid that i've developed over the last year. My own accent tends to fluctuate a bit depending on where I am and who I'm socialising with. When I was very young I had a strong Scottish accent from my Mother and Grandparents, when I went to school it then developed into a more 'BBC English' accent like most of the children at school. As I got older it dropped to a rougher, more London twang and then in Secondary school it switched back to the posher sound, from going to school and being friends with a lot of well spoken kids. It got lazier again as I grew up, and then became more posh again when I went to university, and now has got very London from only really spending time with the people that live on my estate.

Also I've never had any Scottish person be rude to me in any sense, except for my family taking the piss out of the way I speak when I go and visit them, but everyone is just so pleasant and aside of a few jibs and general joking around, I've never encountered hostility either. It might be because my mother is Scottish, I don't know. My Dad's a fully fledged Londoner, so I think that "Scottish people double-hate Londoners" is completely ridiculous. Again, only personal experience but that has to count for something.
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« Reply #93 on: 07 May 2008, 05:06 »

When I said London was the worst place from England to be in regard to Scottish xenophobia against the English I didn't mean all Scottish people hate Londoners. My Grandmother married a Londoner. However, the fact he was a Londoner was also the reason they only lived in Scotland for a few years after getting married before they moved back down again. It's also the reason people from both countries would call my mother a 'half-breed'. And although they would never have said anything about it, the family my sister is marrying into were very relieved when they found out she wasn't 'really English'. They also liked the idea of her being from Yorkshire much better than her being from the south, since Yorkshire is poor, not southern but also not northern enough for attacks against Scotland to have been mounted from it.

Obviously, vast amount of the population of Scotland hold no xenophobic feelings towards the English whatsoever, just like not everyone from Leeds will break your legs for supporting Manchester United or try to kick your head in because they think you're from below the Midlands. But those sentiments do exist and can sometimes be unpleasantly common in certain areas.
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« Reply #94 on: 07 May 2008, 05:14 »

I always talked "posh" according to people at school when I lived in Halifax (that's about ten miles from where tommy is from so we probably sound fairly similar?) but when I moved to the Welsh borders I suddenly had a very strong Yorkshire accent. I think to be fair I do exaggerate it a bit but also since most people sound Welsh round here, anyone else sounds Yorkshire in comparison.

Well, not anyone. But still.

My gran is Scottish and she is very determined that that makes me Scottish too. She doesn't exactly hate English people but she's very, very patriotic.
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« Reply #95 on: 07 May 2008, 05:32 »

I was born and raised in Halifax, still live really close. I have the 'posh' Halifax accent too, but Tommy and I sound nothing alike. Tommy actually stole his accent from another location. Cheater. I'm thinking if I get him drunk enough, his other accent might come through.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #96 on: 07 May 2008, 06:34 »

The Buzzcocks = Manchester

Just going to prove that Manchester is better than Leeds at EVERYTHING.

(Is okay, though. I see United are in the League 1 playoffs!)
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #97 on: 07 May 2008, 06:52 »

It'd be automatic promotion if it wasn't for the 15 point deduction, a good points 9 clear of Forest. I reckon we can do it.

Manchester was only better than Leeds at music 25 years ago. Sucks now, whereas we win. It's also wetter. It ruins us for arthouse cinemas and art galleries though.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #98 on: 07 May 2008, 06:57 »

I was at the last game of the season at Elland Road on Sunday. Forty thousand Leeds fans!

Also, I'd be embarrassed if I supported Manchester United right now. Think of the money they have spent and yet there's a possibility that they might finish the season with fuck all? That's fucking disgraceful. Given the amount of money Ferguson has spent I'd say practically every human being with a working knowledge of football could win most competitions without a shadow of doubt. Absolutely pitiful.
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Re: Anyone here from the UK?
« Reply #99 on: 07 May 2008, 08:07 »

Man, I have no sense of where the hell my accent comes from (and neither, apparently, does anyone else) because it sure as hell doesn't sound that Australian. Also all this talk of animosity between the Scottish and the English makes me think of that scene in Romper Stomper where two of the skinheads are fighting each other and one of their mates is trying to break it up saying "Come on boys! Stop it! We're all White! We're all White!"
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