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Re: Dirty secret music
« Reply #50 on: 04 May 2008, 16:47 »

I kind of like Savage Garden. I have a depressingly large collection of Disney music on my iTunes also, which is probably the most embarrassing thing I listen to. But seriously? Nothing rocks your shit quite like blasting "Be Prepared" with the windows down whilst driving through town...
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« Reply #51 on: 04 May 2008, 16:48 »

My first strike policy works pretty well, if I act snobby about their music first it generally neuters any countermeasure.

That said, I am somewhat ashamed of Muse's primacy on my Last.fm chart.
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Re: Dirty secret music
« Reply #52 on: 04 May 2008, 17:15 »

oh i listen to horrible music...j-pop, techno, house, and a whole bunch of other stuff that is probably not cool on teh interwebs.
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« Reply #53 on: 04 May 2008, 18:09 »

That is a joke right? If not you have obviously not spent enough time with the folks at ocremix.org
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« Reply #54 on: 04 May 2008, 19:56 »

j-pop ... not cool on teh interwebs.

Is that a joke?

Also, to the person who said Nirvana and Snow Patrol: What?  Nirvana were a great band no matter how you slice it.  I would even say, and not even for the obvious reason, that they were for the late-80s early-90s what Joy Division/Warsaw was for the late-70s early-80s.  An intensely influential band who took a lot of cues from those that came before but managed to carve their own unique sound.  To this day I have never heard an album that really has managed to replicate the feel of In Utero.  Probably in a decade or so there will be a "post-grunge revival" like Interpol et al are doing the post-punk thing now.

And re:Snow Patrol, I've never listened to a whole album but "Run" is a fucking amazing song.
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Re: Dirty secret music
« Reply #55 on: 04 May 2008, 20:05 »

I am still pretty fond of some Incubus albums.  Also: pre-Sing the Sorrow AFI.

never be ashamed of Incubus.
pre sing the sorrow afi is pretty good to






i like hanson's new stuff. It's pretty good.
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« Reply #56 on: 04 May 2008, 20:07 »

And re:Snow Patrol, I've never listened to a whole album but "Run" is a fucking amazing song.

The rest of the songs are pretty terrible. Except whatever that one single from Final Straw is, that one's good too.
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Re: Dirty secret music
« Reply #57 on: 04 May 2008, 20:41 »

Snow Patrol is like the Matchbox 20 of this decade. Really, unless if you're a 40 year old soccer mom there's no valid excuse for listening to them.
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« Reply #58 on: 04 May 2008, 21:06 »

You realize Matchbox 20 hardly counts as a terrible 90's band... they released one album in the 90's, and that one was actually fairly decent as far as 90's grunge-esque rock goes.

Try harder.
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« Reply #59 on: 04 May 2008, 21:09 »

You realize Matchbox 20 hardly counts as a terrible 90's band... they released one album in the 90's, and that one was actually fairly decent as far as 90's grunge-esque rock goes.

Try harder.

I make no apologies for not having a lot of knowledge about matchbox 20.
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« Reply #60 on: 04 May 2008, 21:15 »

I'm just saying, if you're going to try to pin a label on something, you should actually see that the label applies. You could have compared Snow Patrol to Maroon 5. That's always appropriately offensive.
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« Reply #61 on: 04 May 2008, 21:17 »

I'm just saying, if you're going to try to pin a label on something, you should actually see that the label applies. You could have compared Snow Patrol to Maroon 5. That's always appropriately offensive.

Actually that's a pretty good comparison, but Matchbox sound a bit more similar.
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« Reply #62 on: 04 May 2008, 21:23 »

I'll give you that they sound pretty awful now, but you leave that earlier album (whatever it was; can't remember the name for the life of me now) alone. Most of those songs were A-OK.
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« Reply #63 on: 04 May 2008, 21:40 »

Aside from "Run" is Snow Patrol really that bad?  I mean, I find that hard to believe considering the main dude in the band is friends with Belle and Sebastian, Mogwai, Arab Strap, etc. and did two albums with members of said bands as The Reindeer Section.  Granted, those albums weren't amazing but they were very far from bad.
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« Reply #64 on: 04 May 2008, 22:00 »

Aside from "Run" is Snow Patrol really that bad?  I mean, I find that hard to believe considering the main dude in the band is friends with Belle and Sebastian, Mogwai, Arab Strap, etc. and did two albums with members of said bands as The Reindeer Section.  Granted, those albums weren't amazing but they were very far from bad.


I really enjoyed a lot of Final Straw, but haven't really listened to the new albums, although that last single was...less than stellar.
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« Reply #65 on: 04 May 2008, 22:12 »

I guess they started off well enough (the other song I was thinking of was "Chocolate"), but they definitely took a turn for the worse after Final Straw.
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Re: Dirty secret music
« Reply #66 on: 04 May 2008, 22:28 »

Snow Patrol used to be much different, really. They were more of a tweeish band on Jeepster and did a couple of pretty good albums. Then they switched to Polydor and turned towards a more electric and dramatic shape, whch still netted a fair few good songs, including the best "Early Century Dramatic Radioheadesque Ballad" with Run. Then they became a more dramatic Coldplay, a shame!
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Re: Dirty secret music
« Reply #67 on: 04 May 2008, 23:07 »

well, i used to get hell for listening to whitesnake, but then i quit.

ummm, lots of akward moments when people look through my music library and find my metsl stuff(most of my collection) especially the weird named ones
like: cannibal corpse (i only like that one song, hammer smashed face)
death
morbid angel
death angel(they are now gone)
def leppard (just cause they are cheesy)
dethklok
electric wizard
finntroll
necrophagist
infected mushrooms
megadeth
meshuggah
municipal waste
napalm death
and others

what can i say, a lot of people i know are musical philistines
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Re: Dirty secret music
« Reply #68 on: 05 May 2008, 04:10 »

Snow Patrol used to be much different, really. They were more of a tweeish band on Jeepster and did a couple of pretty good albums. Then they switched to Polydor and turned towards a more electric and dramatic shape, whch still netted a fair few good songs, including the best "Early Century Dramatic Radioheadesque Ballad" with Run. Then they became a more dramatic Coldplay, a shame!

I still think Final Straw had some great tunes on it, even if they were trying to be Coldplay at times. I think 'Somewhere A Clock Is Ticking' is a truly breathtaking track.
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Re: Dirty secret music
« Reply #69 on: 05 May 2008, 04:42 »

Guys, I think now is the time to admit that I like J-Rock. Sometimes.
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« Reply #70 on: 05 May 2008, 10:21 »

Aside from "Run" is Snow Patrol really that bad?  I mean, I find that hard to believe considering the main dude in the band is friends with Belle and Sebastian, Mogwai, Arab Strap, etc. and did two albums with members of said bands as The Reindeer Section.  Granted, those albums weren't amazing but they were very far from bad.


I have all of Eyes Open and some other cuts, and really, "Chasing Cars" is the most boring song on the whole album.  The rest of the album is pretty awesome.  "Open Your Eyes" is a fucking epic song, and paired with the album closer, "The Finish Line" ends the album on a beautiful note.
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« Reply #71 on: 05 May 2008, 12:25 »

I know tons of people (myself included) who like Einsturzende Neubauten and Throbbing Gristle but I have never in my life met someone who genuinely likes Merzbow.  I still believe that Merzbow fans only exist on the Internet.

I had my first Merzbow album before I had an internet connection.  I’ll be the first to admit that it’s not something that I’d want to listen to every day, or even every month.  But when I’m in the mood for it, Merzbow has some interesting stuff going on.
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Re: Dirty secret music
« Reply #72 on: 05 May 2008, 12:35 »

I think I'm doing this wrong - there are only two Snow Patrol songs I like, and one of them is Run.
Plus, I really hate Belle and Sebastian.
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« Reply #73 on: 05 May 2008, 12:53 »

Guys, I think now is the time to admit that I like J-Rock. Sometimes.

I'm confused. Who doesn't like J-rock?
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« Reply #74 on: 05 May 2008, 13:15 »

Guys, I think now is the time to admit that I like J-Rock. Sometimes.

I'm confused. Who doesn't like J-rock?

I don't believe we've met.
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« Reply #75 on: 05 May 2008, 13:19 »

Isn't j-rock just Japanese rock music? Because if you like rock music in general but don't like any bands at all from Japan... well, your taste is pretty damn shoddy.
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« Reply #76 on: 05 May 2008, 13:21 »

No. Becuase there are bands from Japan who make music they way they do just because that's where they're from, like Britpop, like country, like traditional Irish music or any other country's, it is the music that is defined by their locale.

Mad Capsule Markets are a Japanese rock band who I like very much, but they are not J-rock. J-rock is something in and of itself.
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« Reply #77 on: 05 May 2008, 13:49 »

I just wrote a big long thing about why people hate the Arctic Monkeys, and then realised it was a bit like writing my own internet death warrant so I stopped.

I get regularly mocked for liking Dolly Parton, but I think that's because the people in question have never listened to her music and basically home in on her breasts. Which is understandable, I suppose.
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« Reply #78 on: 05 May 2008, 13:51 »

Yeah, J-Rock doesn't mean "rock made in Japan".  It means "shitty rock made in Japan with a certain aesthetic".  Dir En Gray is J-Rock.  Guitar Wolf, Shonen Knife, Boris, Acid Mothers Temple, Ghost, Melt-Banana, etc etc are not "J-Rock".
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« Reply #79 on: 05 May 2008, 14:15 »

j-pop ... not cool on teh interwebs.

Is that a joke?

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« Reply #80 on: 05 May 2008, 20:28 »

Yeah, J-Rock doesn't mean "rock made in Japan".  It means "shitty rock made in Japan with a certain aesthetic".  Dir En Gray is J-Rock.  Guitar Wolf, Shonen Knife, Boris, Acid Mothers Temple, Ghost, Melt-Banana, etc etc are not "J-Rock".


So it's just another word for visual kei then? I can't find anything online that defines it as anything other than rock music from Japan, and the first review on the website jrock.com is of a Guitar Wolf album.
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« Reply #81 on: 06 May 2008, 15:49 »

Well let's see, there's the Russian pop music, Polka rap, Romanian love songs(mainly O-Zone), Jingle Cats...need I go on?
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« Reply #82 on: 06 May 2008, 17:05 »

So all in all, we can conclude that genres overall are complete bullshit. They seem to confuse more than organize, as far as I can see.

My problem with genres is that people take them way too seriously. Debating over whether something is black metal, white metal or green metal is plain old retarded. Calling it metal gives a decent approximation as to what it is, i.e. loud guitars and double bass drums. If it's stuck to a rough guide of the music then I wouldn't have any problems with genres.
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« Reply #83 on: 06 May 2008, 17:34 »

I like Dipset and some other select mainstream ignorant rap.
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« Reply #84 on: 06 May 2008, 18:35 »

Plus, I really hate Belle and Sebastian.

Nothing to be ashamed of there.
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« Reply #85 on: 06 May 2008, 19:50 »

Quite often I still get the urge to listen to Ace of Base, and Snow (as in "Informer"... as in the album '12 inches of snow')
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« Reply #86 on: 07 May 2008, 01:44 »

I am pretty sure J-rock is termed so because the sound of it is culturally altered from western rock. I enjoy the actual differences in sound I've witnessed within the music, like the bias towards diatonic melody as opposed to pentatonic melody and what I feel is stronger song dynamic. Marty Friedman once told me that they have a word for the energy of song dynamic, which is pretty cool.

I also enjoy Marty Friedman! He moved to Japan to get into the music there, and starred in a show called Rock Fujiama. Fujiyama? One of those words. In any case, the show was totally awesome even though I couldn't understand what they were saying. Look it up on YouTube, it's pretty rockin' as long as you like some kind of hard rock.

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« Reply #87 on: 13 May 2008, 13:22 »

My guilty pleasures are danish pop bands like Toy Box,Aqua,The Cartoons and so many other daish pop bands. other bands like Ludo and j-rock bands also
and at one point I did actually like Nickelback.
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« Reply #88 on: 13 May 2008, 17:32 »

I like "St Anger" by Metallica.

THIS is where I get absoloutely mauled.

That might be cause it sucks so incredibly hard.  I mean, it's Metallica trying to do nu-metal to stay hip with the times, and failing miserably even at that goal. 
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« Reply #89 on: 13 May 2008, 17:34 »

So all in all, we can conclude that genres overall are complete bullshit. They seem to confuse more than organize, as far as I can see.

My problem with genres is that people take them way too seriously. Debating over whether something is black metal, white metal or green metal is plain old retarded. Calling it metal gives a decent approximation as to what it is, i.e. loud guitars and double bass drums. If it's stuck to a rough guide of the music then I wouldn't have any problems with genres.

If you can't tell the difference between Metallica, The Dillinger Escape Plan, and Wolves in the Throne Room then I'd get yer ears checked, mon ami.
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« Reply #90 on: 13 May 2008, 18:17 »

BAhahaha, I win for dirty secret music.


I still jam out to The Backstreet Boys.

But for serious:

Death Cab fo' sho'.


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« Reply #91 on: 20 May 2008, 10:39 »

Pretty much every "Jam Band" I like, I get mocked for.  I'll post something in a thread somewhere, and get the typical "Phish wants their crappy sound back" reply.

Madahoochi, 56 Hope Road, The Station, Speakeasy, Mofro, Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey, Jazz Mandolin Project, Widespread Panic, Leftover Salmon, String Cheese Incident, The Big Wu, Tea Leaf Green, Phish / Trey, etc.

About the only "jam band" that I get any respect at all for is Medeski, Martin, and Wood.
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« Reply #92 on: 20 May 2008, 11:30 »

Well, they are more jazz than jam band
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« Reply #93 on: 20 May 2008, 11:34 »

Well, they are more jazz than jam band

Every "jam band" is more something than jam band, at least the good ones.  The only thing that earns the "jam band" label is, well, the jam - some are blues, or rock, or bluegrass, or whatever.
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« Reply #94 on: 20 May 2008, 12:47 »

There are circles in which it would impolitic to mention that I like the organ music of Louis James Alfred Lefébure-Wély, but you may not care.

Paul

You're fucking kidding me. I'd shoot myself before I'd admit THAT in public. Fucking John Williams is a better composer than that asshole.

All joking aside, my taste in music is excessively eclectic. A long time ago I realized that I very rarely like more than three songs off of an album, so I've mostly stopped getting entire CDs and now stick to downloading individual songs most of the time. As such, my library includes individual tracks by...

Ben Folds, The Black Eyed Peas, Bond, Bright Eyes, Busta Rhymes, Chris Brown, Ciara, Cobra Starship, Dead Kennedys, Del Amitri, Evanescence, Fall Out Boy, Garbage, Gnarls Barkley, Gorillaz, Gwen Stefani, The Hives, Jack Johnson, Jamiroquai, Jason Mraz, Jem, Jet, Joan Osborne, Justin Timberlake, KT Tunstall, Lunatic Calm, M.I.A., Macy Gray, Mario, Maroon 5, Michael Jackson, Missy Elliot, a crapload of Muse, My Chemical Romance, OutKast, Pitbull, Prince, Rachel Stevens (that one I'm particularly embarrassed about), Red Jumpsuit Apparatus (One song, "Face Down", because it's about an abusive relationship and I volunteer at the local family shelter.), Rob Zombie, Smash Mouth, Spoon, Steve Vai, Timbaland, Tori Amos, and Weird Al.

Sorry about the wall of text. I got kind of into going through my iTunes library to see who you'd make fun of. That's about 40% of my music right there, and 90% of the artists above I only have one song from, in several cases because I needed it to practice for dance class.

But the one artist I've taken the most crap for, including one kid wondering out loud if anybody actually likes him, is FatBoy Slim, who was my favorite artist until I discovered Raquy and the Cavemen.
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« Reply #95 on: 20 May 2008, 13:48 »

Fucking John Williams is a better composer than that asshole.

I never said that Lefébure-Wély was a good composer; but what's not to like, for a smile on the face from time to time, in the total absurdity of this?

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« Reply #96 on: 20 May 2008, 13:54 »

You're quite right. 403 errors are rather absurd.
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« Reply #97 on: 20 May 2008, 13:58 »

Bloc Party.
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Re: Dirty secret music
« Reply #98 on: 20 May 2008, 14:02 »

Well, I was fairly ashamed when our german teacher found several grindcore bands on my ipod, ie 'anal cunt', 'anal blast', 'teen pussy fucker'.

And Mika.
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Re: Dirty secret music
« Reply #99 on: 21 May 2008, 03:22 »

You're quite right. 403 errors are rather absurd.

:~)

It worked from my browsers, but your browser was requesting the file using a different (presumably incorrect) encoded string for the "é" in the file name than mine was; rather than research the reason for this right now I have removed the accents from the link, so it will now work for you.

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