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Who will be the villian in the next Batman movie?

The Joker (again)
- 2 (2.7%)
The Mob
- 2 (2.7%)
Poison Ivy
- 0 (0%)
Catwoman
- 8 (10.7%)
Ra's al Ghul and the League of Assassins
- 1 (1.3%)
Bane
- 5 (6.7%)
Clayface
- 4 (5.3%)
Firefly
- 1 (1.3%)
Harleyquinn
- 4 (5.3%)
The Mad Hatter
- 3 (4%)
Man-Bat
- 1 (1.3%)
Mr. Freeze
- 3 (4%)
The Penguin
- 8 (10.7%)
The Riddler
- 18 (24%)
The Scarecrow
- 4 (5.3%)
Ventriloquist and Scarface
- 5 (6.7%)
Other (Let me know if you want me to add someone to the poll)
- 6 (8%)

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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #400 on: 25 Aug 2008, 17:16 »

Cause it is set in the Bat Cave.

What the hell is up with Mysterio now anyway?  He killed himself in Daredevil, now he is back, and then there are two guys running around as him.  One from the Evil That Men Do, and the other who decided to become his successor.  What the hell?
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #401 on: 25 Aug 2008, 17:37 »

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I mean, I am not a comic book reader, but why the hell would there be a T-Rex in the bat cave? That makes no sense.
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #402 on: 25 Aug 2008, 17:42 »

Seriously if a picture says a thousand words that one just says X-TREME a thousand times.
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #403 on: 25 Aug 2008, 18:03 »

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I mean, I am not a comic book reader, but why the hell would there be a T-Rex in the bat cave? That makes no sense.

I assume it's part of his Rogue's Gallery Museum or what have you in the Batcave but really it just makes it more kickin' rad don't you think?

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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #404 on: 25 Aug 2008, 18:24 »

I'm with Johnny C on this one. Knightfall is the comic book equivalent of Prince of Persia II. To paraphrase Zero Punctuation, they still went and stuck their dick in the pudding when they chose that cover and aesthetic. It doesn't matter how finely tuned the underpinnings are if someone can't even approach your product without feeling like a collossal tool.
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #405 on: 25 Aug 2008, 18:25 »

Man fuck you, The Shadow and the Flame was better than the first.
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #406 on: 25 Aug 2008, 18:28 »

Fine, fine. It's like PoP:tWW. Point stands.
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #407 on: 25 Aug 2008, 19:01 »

Johnny, I shit you not, most of those jokes you made are real supervillains.

BK, the original Mysterio, Quentin Beck, is dead. He's the one featured in that Daredevil arc. The Mysterio who appeared for a while after that was his cousin or some such nonsense (In reality, the cousin angle was a hastily thrown together explanation for an editorial gaffe where Mysterio showed up in Spider-Man like two months after killing himself in Daredevil). The third Mysterio is the dude from Evil That Men Do.

All three actually showed up in a Civil War tie-in of Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man where the ETMD Mysterio took over the school Parker worked in, the cousin of Beck Mysterio appeared to fight the so-called imposter and the original showed up as a kind of zombie thing.
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #408 on: 25 Aug 2008, 19:45 »

I know, that was what confused the hell out of me.
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #409 on: 26 Aug 2008, 14:56 »

All three actually showed up in a Civil War tie-in of Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man where the ETMD Mysterio took over the school Parker worked in, the cousin of Beck Mysterio appeared to fight the so-called imposter and the original showed up as a kind of zombie thing.

Yes, but is Beck really dead then?  Or was it all a dream, or perhaps a new fourth Mysterio?  [sarcarsm]DRAMA![/sarcasm]

Actually, Bane was always meant as an Anti-Batman, and they have handled him well thus far.  Bane being this giant muscle-looking dude was the only flaw with him.  Although, I thought Cane was better, and his angle probably would fit into Nolan's universe better, League of Shadows already introduced, revenge for killing Ra's.  He could have the funding to send several other villians (like Deathshot, Killer Croc Versiom 1.0, etc) after Bats, while trying to finish the job Bats originally was supposed to do fro the League.
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #410 on: 30 Aug 2008, 04:20 »

Well I finally got around to seeing The Dark Knight. Firstly, who the fuck takes little kids to see a film like this? Onto things that actually have to do with the film. Overall I thought it was great, not amazingly, fantastically, Oh-my-god-spontaneous-orgasm great, just great. I'm really glad they got rid of twoface at the end, just because it means I wont have to put up with looking at that CGI any more, that was the only thing in the entire film that broke my suspension of disbelief. Though I had a bit of trouble understanding why Batman's sonar vision was able to help him see that entire abandoned building, I mean what was there a mobile phone straightly placed in every room so that he could see?

Probably my favorite bits of the film were the pencil trick, and "The first hit should never go to the head, it makes them all fuzzy and they don't feel the next couple of hits."

As for any sequels I would really like something where the police and the government are the main villains, but I can't really see how that would have any real plot, or satisfactory conclusion.

What I see as far more likely is that being a fugitive is so difficult that Wayne has to retire the batsuit, and this either leads to such a rise in general crime rates that they have to make a request for batman to come back, though this might be a little to Hancock-esk, or the city lives normally until a new main villain appears causing batman to have to come out of retirement and fight both the police and the new villain.

either that or Gordon's continued support of batman is exposed and he is fired, to be replaced by someone completely bent, possibly the girl from this one, who twoface let live. 
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #411 on: 04 Sep 2008, 17:43 »

I know it is sort of old hat now, but Aaron Eckhart has come out to say that Harvey Dent/Two Face is dead.

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« Reply #412 on: 04 Sep 2008, 18:51 »

What does he know
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« Reply #413 on: 04 Sep 2008, 19:32 »

Seriously.   Kirsten Dunst thinks Spider-man* should die and MJ should have his genetically altered babies.

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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #414 on: 04 Sep 2008, 19:38 »

For the record, it's not like Eckhart came out and decided this. Upon attempting to ask Nolan about Two Face, Nolan immediately cut the guy off and said "No, he's dead. Not coming back. Dead. Dead forever."

If I were to believe that from anyone, it'd be Nolan.
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« Reply #415 on: 04 Sep 2008, 19:39 »

Eckhart has the best judgement
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #416 on: 08 Sep 2008, 18:16 »

Michael Caine says it's going to be Depp playing The Riddler and P.S.H. playing The Penguin.
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« Reply #417 on: 08 Sep 2008, 18:19 »

Ugh if it's true. Hopefully Nolan can rein in Depp. I don't need another Willy Wonka.
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« Reply #418 on: 08 Sep 2008, 18:22 »

I think Schwarzenegger should play Dr. Freeze again. Just for kicks.
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« Reply #419 on: 08 Sep 2008, 18:33 »

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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #420 on: 08 Sep 2008, 19:40 »

That was just an executive who mouthed off to him...they're probably pushing Nolan to do something like that, but until I hear it as coming from Nolan himself, I won't believe any rumors.
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« Reply #421 on: 08 Sep 2008, 20:55 »

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“When Christopher [Nolan] said we were going to do ‘The Dark Knight’ next, I didn’t what that meant in Batman terms,”

It's hard to take something seriously as a journalistic source when they produce dreck like that sentence.

I'm pretty sure they meant it to be:
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“When Christopher [Nolan] said we were going to do ‘The Dark Knight’ next, I didn’t know what that meant in Batman terms,”

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« Reply #422 on: 08 Sep 2008, 23:19 »

Could be worse. My local newspaper once accidentally cut the word "victims" out of a story so the end of a sentence read something like "long history of supporting rape."
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« Reply #423 on: 09 Sep 2008, 13:46 »

Could be worse. My local newspaper once accidentally cut the word "victims" out of a story so the end of a sentence read something like "long history of supporting rape."


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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #424 on: 11 Sep 2008, 14:12 »

I say we cast Jim Carrey as the riddler again.  Just for kicks.

Seriously, I really hope they don't cast Johnny Depp.
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« Reply #425 on: 11 Sep 2008, 19:33 »

Depp as the Riddler is just so.....easy. It would be a bad choice because it would be blatant type-casting and therefore blatantly unoriginal and uninteresting. Depp's interpretation will surely be something we've seen a million times before from Johnny Depp. The great thing about Ledger's performance was that it was totally out of left field for him, which is part of the reason why it was so frightening/unsettling and compelling. Depp as the Riddler would lack that element completely and the whole time we'd be like, "oh look, it's Johnny Depp." As for Ledger, I was consistently like, "holy shit the Joker is terrifying and psychotic and really pretty mesmerizing." Topping Ledger is going to be nigh impossible and type casting someone for the next role is not the way to do it. Even if there wasn't some sort of pressure to top Ledger, Depp would still be a bad choice. I know you were joking, but I honestly think Jim Carey would be a better choice for the Riddler than Depp at this point. Carey at least has come into his own somewhat and made some very good movies and played something of a variety of roles. I'd pick him over Depp any day and if Nolan really does go with Depp, and I find it hard to believe he actually will, I'll be severally disappointed. 
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« Reply #426 on: 12 Sep 2008, 07:54 »

I completely agree. Depp is the same character in everything. Also, I think the Riddler would be a mediocre villain choice.
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« Reply #427 on: 12 Sep 2008, 08:24 »

Um, what? I mean, I know this is all mostly in jest, but damn. Johnny Depp would be too big of a distraction for you because he's too distinctively Johnny Depp but this would be less of a problem with Jim Carrey? The same Jim Carrey who is mostly tly good at mugging, physical comedy and a schizoid send up of golly gee whiz innocence? That's not to rip on Carrey, by the way; he's excellent at choosing parts that play to his strengths, but I just find the idea that'd he'd be less distracting than Depp to be a bit of a stretch-- the guy's not exactly a chameleon. Eternal Sunshine was good and all, but it wasn't that big of a stretch for him either. Same with the Majestic, which was essentially a Capra homage. At least Depp has Gilbert Grape, Donnie Brasco (decent movie) and Blow (boring movie but not really Depp's fault) to give him a little breathing room from the kinds of parts he normally plays. Jim Carrey has, god help him, the Number 23, a movie I've never seen people enjoy without the MST3K treatment.

Anyway, neither Depp nor the Riddler would be my first choice, but if they went that route I could easily see it being a non-apocalyptic scenario depending on how they handled it.
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #428 on: 12 Sep 2008, 08:57 »

True story:  I was really burnt out after 4/20 (we played bong chess) and fell asleep during that movie.  I still knew what happened though, which is odd.
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #429 on: 12 Sep 2008, 09:18 »

No one's complained about Philip Seymour Hoffman playing the Penguin yet. I think there's a reason for this. My theory: Because he would be awesome as the Penguin.
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #430 on: 12 Sep 2008, 09:23 »

People were talking about him being a penguin before Dark Knight even came out, actually.  Not the producers, mind you, just the fans trying to guess how Nolan would do it.
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« Reply #431 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:16 »

I think the important thing to keep in mind here is Depp hasn't had a unique role in ages, and every movie he's done in the last 5 or so years he's just been relying on his offbeat charm to get him through every role. Then again, he's not as bad as Hugh Grant.
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« Reply #432 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:30 »

True story:  I was really burnt out after 4/20 (we played bong chess) and fell asleep during that movie.  I still knew what happened though, which is odd.

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« Reply #433 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:42 »

It's when you take a couple ounces, a package of rolling papers, a 5-pack of Dutch Masters, duct tape, 15 people, and all the glass or Macgyver'd paraphernalia that those people own. 

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9. Order 12 Pizzas and watch The Sword in the Stone.

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« Reply #434 on: 12 Sep 2008, 11:03 »

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« Reply #435 on: 12 Sep 2008, 11:07 »

I should also add that we won.  In 20 moves or so, no less.
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« Reply #436 on: 12 Sep 2008, 12:43 »

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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #437 on: 12 Sep 2008, 16:56 »

I completely agree. Depp is the same character in everything. Also, I think the Riddler would be a mediocre villain choice.

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« Reply #438 on: 12 Sep 2008, 17:32 »

Raoul Duke is infinitely better than Cap'n Jack.
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« Reply #439 on: 12 Sep 2008, 17:44 »

I think that's meant to signify 'not equal to'.
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« Reply #440 on: 12 Sep 2008, 18:28 »

That's what it means, yes.  My point was that Johnny Depp has played multiple characters.  Yes, he's played the same three characters in those three Disney movies.  And he's been given a lot of dark roles (Sweeney Todd, Sleepy Hollow, Edward Scissor Hands), but he hasn't always played the same character.  If you think he can only play one character, watch an episode of 21 Jump Street, jump to Fear and Loathing, then get high with Captain Jack*.  He's a damn fine actor.  Plus, he's really good.

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« Reply #441 on: 12 Sep 2008, 20:09 »

As long as that ridiculous leotard isn't involved, this could work.  I also kind of see Robert Carlyle being able to do this.
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #442 on: 13 Sep 2008, 15:50 »

i seriously think we should just forget the riddler and penguin. use deadshot as a small character...wasn't there a batman storyline that involved him against some kind of corrupt mayor or something? that would be more realistic
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #443 on: 13 Sep 2008, 16:19 »

I think the riddler is a pretty obvious choice, actually.  Recast him as a PI brought in by the city to help catch the batman.
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Re: The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
« Reply #444 on: 13 Sep 2008, 16:35 »

I think we need the Eggman and a mechanical spider if we want a really good film.
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