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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #50 on: 18 May 2008, 04:16 »

Please explain to me how flanking has any effect whatsoever in Age of Empires or Warcraft. I cannot comprehend it.

Age of empires two for me was just a game of hit and run with heavy cav. archers. If you had 30 of them you were unbeatable.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #51 on: 18 May 2008, 06:05 »

British longbowmen were pretty great. Pack of fifty in the middle of the enemy, with one monk, no  one could touch them.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #52 on: 18 May 2008, 23:05 »

I guess I was thinking of multiplayer in AoE1, which was pretty much deathmatch. It was a game of sending 200 Babyloninan horse archers at each other as quick as possible.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #53 on: 21 May 2008, 02:42 »

Erm, Age of Empires 2 is pretty fucking tactical, what with the formation controls, attack stances and the hotkeying. I'll normally have maybe four or five groups on the go at any one time during a big attack (a large central unit in square formation, normally set to stand still, generally consisting of pikemen surrounding a core of arbalests, hand cannoneers and elite skirmishers protecting a couple of trebuchets, a couple of skirmishing units of horse archers, knights, berserkers, samurai, whatever, a big group of villagers and maybe a unit of monks, especially if I'm after some relics). The villagers are to facilitate my favourite tactic of castle-hopping, to wit: you plough straight into your enemies base with a huge assault, and then, whilst he's desperately defending his town centre, castle, maybe king, monument, whatever, you build a fucking castle in the middle of his base. Then the twenty villagers all get in, and they can fire arrows from inside the castle!

Often if the opponent isn't very good, it just becomes a case of building forty of whatever my elite unit is, sending them out to kill, and going off and building another castle. Of course, trebuchets make things far more interesting, as does the garrisoned rams in Age of Conquerors. Setting up proper defenses with clearly defined killing fields and protective mazes of palisade fence becomes very important.

As for turn based strategy, I am all about Paradox games and Alpha Centauri. Europa Universalis 2 and Hearts of Iron have stolen incalculable portions of my life. My favourite Hearts of Iron Game? I played as the USA, and just sat out completely till 1942, pouring my whole economy into research until I was at a 1950's level. Then I started declaring war on South American countries one by one until the Presidents approval rating dipped so low that there was a communist revolution. America became a Stalinist state, I joined the Comintern, then I took over the Comintern, and then we declared war on the Allies and the Axis at the same time, who put aside their differences in order to combat the threat of global communism.

Unfortunately for them I already had sub-launched nukes at this point. After reducing Berlin, London, Manchester, Koln, Paris, Rome and Dusseldorf to radioactive slag, they surrendered. Japan I took out in the approved historical way.

US battlefield and civilian deaths? ZERO.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #54 on: 21 May 2008, 08:15 »

That post was so fantastic I'm downloading Hearts of Iron II right now.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #55 on: 21 May 2008, 20:03 »

same here! man that game looks hot!
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #56 on: 22 May 2008, 01:35 »

Goddamnit I suck at it. How in the hells are you supposed to ever do well?
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #57 on: 22 May 2008, 02:27 »

A lot of patience, practice, micro managing skills and a literal hard-on for Turn Based strategy.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #58 on: 22 May 2008, 04:20 »

It's not even turn based.

edit: I'm doing quite well now! I'm playing as Communist China and kicking Nationalist China's butt. I have just managed to capture an airbase that they were using to bomb my troops! Woo!
The only problem is for some reason I can't figure out, I have to keep reloading because I get a message saying Nationalist China has accepted my peace offer, but I never made one! It's very annoying, since it means I keep losing all the provinces that I've captured off them.

edit 2: I found out the peace was the result of an inevitable in-game event. Oh well. I have expanded my empire north-east and am currently allied with Nationalist China and a few others trying to keep the Japanese at bay. It isn't going so well!
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #59 on: 27 May 2008, 06:24 »

The world could possibly be a much better place if the nation's fate was decided via Turn Based Strategy
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #60 on: 30 May 2008, 01:22 »

Uhm... Age of Wonders anyone?
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #61 on: 02 Jun 2008, 15:52 »

The world could possibly be a much better place if the nation's fate was decided via Turn Based Strategy

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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #62 on: 03 Jun 2008, 21:08 »

If real-world disputes were settled via computer gaming then we'd all need to learn to speak Korean.

If you're sucking at Hearts of Iron, it's probably because you're not managing your research and social options well enough. It's not good enough just to pick something and go with it: you need to constantly adjust to changing factors.

Also, it doesn't hurt to pick a nation that sucks slightly less than Communist China. The only real problem with the level of historical accuracy in Hearts of Iron is it's very hard to secure convincing wins with anyone except Britain, USA, Germany or Russia. I managed as Brazil once, but it was a slog. Europa Universalis, with its longer scope, gives you more play, though it's still damned near impossible as a non-european state. My best EU2 games were with Scotland (controlling the whole of the UK, Iceland, northern France and large portions of Africa), and Denmark (controlling the entire Scandinavian peninsula, most of European Russia (a real bitch holding on to all those Orthodox states) large parts of Germany and colonies in America.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #63 on: 09 Jun 2008, 20:48 »

Diplomacy....

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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #64 on: 11 Jun 2008, 15:40 »

So the other day I was playing a demo for Civilisation Revolution for the 360. It's really fun, and it seems that it is not next to God damn impossible like every other game in the series which is nice. Presumably though the harder difficulty settings will bring it back to the way it was for any die hard Civ players out there. Seriously though Civ 3 is fucking ridiculous. The game is also a lot more light hearted with fun sound effects and animation which I really think is a step in the right direction, plus it looks likely that it'll cater to a more casual market than your average 360 game.

The xbox live multiplayer seems quite well done too, but I've only seen it in action and not played it. Any thoughts?
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #65 on: 11 Jun 2008, 16:47 »

Personally I think Revolution is gonna be great, but I am gonna be missing a lot of the customization from the PC version. Of course, I'm hoping that if it does well, they'll try to integrate a bit more fo the PC experience into the console versions and force the industry to realize consoles can do Strategy games properly.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #66 on: 11 Jun 2008, 17:39 »

I think Revolution is simplified in the right places for easy console play, and it still keeps the overall spirit of the gameplay. Some UI elements in the demo seemed a little clunky, but I'm sure I'd adapt to them. Not sure if I'll buy it, since I have Civ 4 and Beyond the Sword on my laptop, but I think it's an accurate port of Civilization for consoles and it's about as good as can be hoped for. I'm intrigued to see the DS version, because portable Civilization means I'd probably never get anything done ever again.

Also, I really like in Revolution how each civ has a specific perk for each age. I hope that they implement that in the next PC game, because that's a great idea.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #67 on: 08 Jul 2008, 07:41 »

I found it weird that no one has typed about Stars!
I'm not that old (28 atm) and I remember watching the sun rise during university promising to myself: "one more turn" while I conquered the universe...

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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #68 on: 08 Jul 2008, 15:17 »

at least once a day i tell myself "i don't need Civ. Rev. i really really don't."

but i have a feeling it's not working.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #69 on: 08 Jul 2008, 15:29 »

I just found my old copy of AoEII, installing now. pity I don't have the exp.

Also, they've got most of the older Civ games and HoMM on Gametap, as well as quite a few RTS as well. Heroes of Might and Magic though, my god, that was my favorite childhood game, one of the first games I ever truly played to where I began to identify as a gamer. Bought it in a mac games ten pack when I was like 10 myself with a bunch of other computer games, the original one. Spent so many freakin horus on the campaign, and the extra maps, and when I found out that not only had they already came out with a sequel but a third one it was more or less the game that got me started in keeping up with the industry. This is when i found gamefaqs, gamespot, IGN and all the others for the first time, started reading up on other games and yeah. Fond fuckin' memories. A lot of people I know didn't like the fourth one, but I absolutely loved having a hero as an actual character on the map, leveling up to the point where he could take down stacks of dragons, etc. I think a big part of why I never bought 5 is because they decided to take they away, and I just didn't want to go back, actual 3D graphics be damned. That saying i still love playing 3.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #70 on: 08 Jul 2008, 19:28 »

I suck at it, but I enjoy playing Civ 4 all night with two other people, valiantly losing.

Also, Heroes of Might and Magic. Specifically 3.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #71 on: 09 Jul 2008, 15:11 »

I love Civilization 4, Galactic Civilizations, Final Fantasy Tactics. A Nippon Ichii (Developer) game is also to die for.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #72 on: 24 Jul 2008, 12:39 »

I agree with the vote for Moo 2. It was one of my favorite games for years and is still in my top 5 best of all time.
Another I have not seen mentioned yet is Imperialism 2. This game is very complicated and hard to learn,
but once you get into it can be tons of fun. It is the game that started my group of friends saying "notice the abruptness of my turn".
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #73 on: 24 Jul 2008, 13:37 »

I used to have the Mac version of that.  My parents bought it for me when I was 10.  My only goal at the time was to survive to the end of the game.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #74 on: 24 Jul 2008, 19:29 »

Man, I remember MoO2.  I had it for the mac, too.  It was awesome.

MoO3 was not so awesome.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #75 on: 31 Jul 2008, 12:25 »

I used to love Turn-Based Strategy. I still have a special place in my heart for it. Anymore, thoug, I just do not have the patience at all. It's like I move my units to where I want 'em to be set up for next turn, and the dude on the other end is either a) taking forever trying to figure out how to get out of the deathtrap I have set up, or b) finding an exploit and using it relentlessly to screw up all my planning. Either way, I can't do jack until next turn.

Also, a webcomic about turn-based strategy: Erfworld.

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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #76 on: 01 Aug 2008, 16:24 »

Has anyone played Chaos Overlords?  I got the demo from a MacAddict CD a decade or more ago and LOVED it.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #77 on: 02 Aug 2008, 10:00 »

Closest thing I ever got to a TBS is Shining Force 1 and 2 for the Sega Genesis, and I loved them to pieces.  Though I guess Id qualify them more as a Turn Based RPG if such a ghoul exists.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #78 on: 02 Aug 2008, 14:03 »

Civilization's all well and good but I prefer me some Alpha Centauri. Tis awesome and I'm constantly wishing they'd get around to a sequel.
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Anyways, turn based strategy will always mean Alpha Centauri to me.  I love that game to death (literally.  I've purchased it 3 separate times).
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #79 on: 02 Aug 2008, 14:19 »

I'll just say again what I said in the Fallout 3 thread. The best TB Civ game (turn-based strategy, I know nothing ) was Alpha Centauri. Everything that Firaxis has made after that has been dreadful in comparison.
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Re: Who else here has a boner for TURN BASED STRATEGY
« Reply #80 on: 06 Aug 2008, 16:21 »

Advance Wars is my favorite for TBS games. Especially Dual Strike, and unespecially the most recent one.
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