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[a pack of wolves]

I agree, they're hardly overlooked. Neither are the Minutemen. I love that band more than any other but they're hardly overlooked in terms of punk and hardcore. The band from that time that I do think are all too often overlooked are The Dicks. They were doing something brave and unique, I can't think of a single band since who've tried to pick up and run with what the Dicks started and for me they ought to be up there with the likes of Minor Threat. Void as well, but to a lesser extent since being on Dischord has given them greater exposure given that label's incredible track record of releases and staying power. Nobody came close to their unhinged intensity at the time and it took years until you got bands like Rorschach with their sound that calls to mind a collision between Black Flag and Void who even tried.

[Caspian]

The Angelic Process are clearly the best band ever, (and the main songwriter just died, LAME) and it's a real shame they aren't more known, not to mention that it's just totally perplexing as to WHY their last album didn't chart at number one, and why there aren't a million copycat bands.

Yeah, so The Angelic Process. Somewhere between metal and shoegaze (but none of that wussy Alcest/Amesoures shite), and with easily the best guitar tone ever. Criminally underrated.

[Zephirius Jixx]

The Spinto Band, just amazing sounds on Nice and nicely done, their releasing a new album - Moonwink - soon too!

[Broken_Drum]

No, I haven't. If you could upload Nouveau to the mediaf!re thread I would love you forever.

No problem, it'll be up soon.

EDIT: It's up.

[np96]

I think its a good thing that quite a few bands are criminally underrrated. This stops them from being overplayed on radio/tv/clubs to the point where they get annoying. Having said that, if some bands were more popular, maybe they would be more likely to play a gig near where I live.

[Divide by Zero]

Do Bitter:Sweet and Mocean Worker count or are they too well-known?

[Funk Thompson]

Post some links to some of this stuff, someone.  Would love to hear it and haven't had time to look at / figure out Mediafire yet.

Click my sig for some rockin' tunes out of St. Louis - I'd recommend starting with "Consequence."

[RedLion]

Spiritualized should be bigger than Radiohead by miles. Ladies and Gentlemen, We are Floating in Space is one of the best records ever created.

Truth. Although, they're not that similar of bands.

[Caspian]

They're a good deal better then Radiohead, though.

..but then again I guess most bands are.

[Liz]

Oh good, I'm not the only one here that is totally underwhelmed by Radiohead.

[RedLion]

Meh. They're nothing revolutionary or amazing, but they certanily deserve some of their acclaim. OK Computer is a masterpiece. They've continually reinvented themselves (with surprising success) numerous times. They're one of the few bands around that could switch from making an album like The Bends to one like Kid A.

[Funk Thompson]

Radiohead's albums, other than OK Computer, have failed to really wow me.  However, from what I hear, their live show is absolutely amazing, if only due to their ability to play their complicated songs flawlessly. 

They are also another band through whom I have discovered a lot of music I might not have given a chance otherwise (well, via Pandora.com that is.)

[onewheelwizzard]

Criminally overlooked, eh?

earthlings?
DJ Frane
Moccasin
Colour Haze (overlooked in the US at least)
Bigelf
Jakob
Sons of Otis
Masters of Reality
Jack Rose

Of these, 7 have seen time on the Mediafire thread.  At some point soon I plan on completing the list.  Expect earthlings?'s self-titled and at least one Jakob album soon.

[TheFuriousWombat]

Jakob

Yes!!

[imagist42]

Also, Middle Distance Runner.

That reminds me: Sea Wolf.

[Broken_Drum]

earthlings?

True dat.

[De_El]

Anyone who likes pop music should know about the Exploding Hearts. They're not totally obscure or anything, but more people should have their record.

[Zephirius Jixx]

http://www.spintoband.com/The spinto band site
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=2655201The spinto Band myspace
check it out, they are awesome

[Divide by Zero]

Oh, and VAST. I've heard three songs by him and I love them all.

[sparl]

Silkworm
Kitchens of Distinction
Seam
Arcwelder

[the Goat]

I agree, they're hardly overlooked. Neither are the Minutemen. I love that band more than any other but they're hardly overlooked in terms of punk and hardcore. The band from that time that I do think are all too often overlooked are The Dicks. They were doing something brave and unique, I can't think of a single band since who've tried to pick up and run with what the Dicks started and for me they ought to be up there with the likes of Minor Threat. Void as well, but to a lesser extent since being on Dischord has given them greater exposure given that label's incredible track record of releases and staying power. Nobody came close to their unhinged intensity at the time and it took years until you got bands like Rorschach with their sound that calls to mind a collision between Black Flag and Void who even tried.

I think a lot of Austin hardcore bands aren't given their due. For as little recognition as the Dicks get, the Big Boys are pretty much forgotten, at least in most circles. Some of their stuff can be hit or miss, but they were probably one of the most adventurous early-80's hardcore bands. They produced a lot of material between '79-'84 and it's all over the map: skatepunk, funk, early indie, swamp boogie, the list goes on.

Other Austinites, Butthole Surfers were way way out there and deserve some respect - despite the name. Even their commercial stuff is worthy of praise, "Goofy's Concern" is a truely great rock song.

[sean]

Jakob

Yes!!

I just downloaded an album by Jakob last night. I take it this means I should stop whatever I'm doing and listen to them immediately?

[onewheelwizzard]

Yes.

Also, which is it?  Later tonight I'm going to upload at least one of their albums and if you've already got one I'd want to up a different one.

[sean]

I have the album Solace.

[a pack of wolves]

I think a lot of Austin hardcore bands aren't given their due. For as little recognition as the Dicks get, the Big Boys are pretty much forgotten, at least in most circles. Some of their stuff can be hit or miss, but they were probably one of the most adventurous early-80's hardcore bands. They produced a lot of material between '79-'84 and it's all over the map: skatepunk, funk, early indie, swamp boogie, the list goes on.

Definitely. I managed to get hold of the Dicks collection Alternative Tentacles released but I've never seen a Big Boys record, just heard a few tracks here and there. Sadly the main way the Big Boys are remembered seems to be through the grief Biscuit got from Bad Brains due to their horrible homophobia. A real shame, particularly since Biscuit and Gary Floyd both died too soon.

[rofflesaurusrex]

Morphine man, Dana Colley bringa a whole new outlook to the saxaphone. I play sax man maybe its just me

[the Goat]

I think a lot of Austin hardcore bands aren't given their due. For as little recognition as the Dicks get, the Big Boys are pretty much forgotten, at least in most circles. Some of their stuff can be hit or miss, but they were probably one of the most adventurous early-80's hardcore bands. They produced a lot of material between '79-'84 and it's all over the map: skatepunk, funk, early indie, swamp boogie, the list goes on.

Definitely. I managed to get hold of the Dicks collection Alternative Tentacles released but I've never seen a Big Boys record, just heard a few tracks here and there. Sadly the main way the Big Boys are remembered seems to be through the grief Biscuit got from Bad Brains due to their horrible homophobia. A real shame, particularly since Biscuit and Gary Floyd both died too soon.

Glen Taylor, their guitarist died, Gary's still kicking. You scared the shit out of me for a second, but fortunately the internet, as usual came to the rescue.

[Funk Thompson]

Morphine man, Dana Colley bringa a whole new outlook to the saxaphone. I play sax man maybe its just me

Any suggestions of particular songs I should check out?  Watched "Honey White" and "Shame" live on YouTube, kinda minimilist.  Reminds me a bit of Jon Spencer's Blues Explosion.

[MrSteevo]

Sea Wolf.

Second

[rofflesaurusrex]

Morphine man, Dana Colley bringa a whole new outlook to the saxaphone. I play sax man maybe its just me

Any suggestions of particular songs I should check out?  Watched "Honey White" and "Shame" live on YouTube, kinda minimilist.  Reminds me a bit of Jon Spencer's Blues Explosion.

listen to cure for pain, souvenir, or the night to me they're morphines signature pieces

[a pack of wolves]

Glen Taylor, their guitarist died, Gary's still kicking. You scared the shit out of me for a second, but fortunately the internet, as usual came to the rescue.

I have never been happier to be wrong. I'm going to kill whoever it was that told me he died a couple of years ago.

[sc13ntific]

The Stevenson Ranch Davidians


Rebreather
www.myspace.com/rebreather

[Johnny C]

Well, my initial prediction about the direction of this thread was right, but it turns out that there are actually two inherent problems with it.

I dunno if things are different in the states

Pretty much constantly.

I agree, they're hardly overlooked. Neither are the Minutemen. I love that band more than any other but they're hardly overlooked in terms of punk and hardcore.

So okay, they're not overlooked in their niche, but outside of their niche nobody listens to them - and quite frankly a lot of younger listeners within the niche don't listen to them. I had to stop a dude at a local punk record store from launching into a lecture on SST when I bought a copy of Double Nickels On The Dime from him after I commented on how cheap it was. At first he thought I was being dismissive but, no, unlike apparently a bunch of his customers I a) knew my punk history and b) gave enough of a shit about The Minutemen to actually buy one of their records.

Point is, most of these bands are greatly overlooked by someone somewhere. Which actually makes it kind of a bad thread, if only because nobody's really explaining anything outside of each band's name.

Wax Mannequin, for the record, is probably tremendously overlooked because barely anyone outside Canada even knows him, and even within Canada he's actually got such a low fanbase that when he played a show in my friend's basement it was actually a step up from the venues he'd been playing in town. It's a shame because he's really great.

[michaelicious]

Man, playing anywhere that isn't Hamilton is a step up for most people.

[Devoidless]

Ok, maybe this band is not "criminally ignored," but it is damn near close to being so. Every time I mention them, people go "The fuck are you talking about? Is that even a real band...are you high?"

Oh, right. Yeah, the band.

Soul Coughing. Any of you heard of them? They only lasted for 3 albums and a few live recordings.

What is that you say? Want to hear them? Ok!

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=378288890
Yeah, it is a myspace page. Made by some random fan. Best I could find on short notice.

[yellowfoliage]

I also like Soul Coughing. Doughty is actually still doing good stuff on his own.

Criminally ignored from the 90s as well: Marcy Playground. Sex and Candy was a hit, but the rest of their great self-titled album went unnoticed (Poppies and Saint Joe on the School Bus are especially good).

And anybody into Dick Dale/surf rock in general would do well to check out Johnny and the Hurricanes.

[Brian Majestic]

If everyone listened to and loved Gogol Bordello, there would massive Gypsy Punk dance parties in the streets, in schools, at parties, at work. It would change the world.

there's already a group of self-styled "gypsy punks" that hang around in Chicago. They make the crust punks look well-groomed in comparison. Also said gypsy punks insist on playing their drums/guitar/etc really loudly and it is not fun times.

[Tom]

Awwww, ain't that cute, they think they're a subculture now!

[Spluff]

How Like A Winter may possibly be better than Agalloch, and yet their most listened song only has 55 plays this week.

[TheFuriousWombat]

I know they have some fans on the forum but almost no one I know/talk to has listened to or even heard of Wintersleep. It's a shame since they make far more interesting and better crafted music than, say, The National who have, in my opinion, an undeserved level of recognition/favor in the music media.

[Tom]

^^^agreed

[Jackie Blue]

Wow, a lot of these bands being listed are really far from being ignored.  Morphine?  Soul Coughing?  Both were in heavy rotation on MTV in the 90s and had pretty devoted fanbases.

There's a difference between a band being forgotten (see above) and never had enough attention paid to them in the first place (My Dad Is Dead, Camper Van Beethoven).

[A Wet Helmet]

  A near-perfect blend of Joy Division, Fugazi and a splash of Husker Du. 

Ah--- 1989.  I was 16 and living in D.C. 

Ok, technically I lived in Falls Church, VA but that's inside the beltway.  In retrospect, '89 was an awesome year for music, though at the time I vividly remember thinking that good music was dead.  I probably saw Fugazi a dozen times in 89 alone.  They played non-stop around here and even though I enjoyed their music we'd always go "Damn, that wasn't as good as Minor Threat" or "Shit, Embrace was better than this".  That still didn't stop me from picking up 7 songs on vinyl as soon as it was released.  I watched Fugazi play everywhere from church halls, to a park across the street from the white house.  It was like "Hey, you wanna go see the Toasters on Tuesday, Fugazi on Saturday and Token Entry on Sunday?" 

"Yeah cool, but I only got like fifteen bucks, so let's skip the Toasters, I just saw them like three weeks ago."

"Yeah, ok."

Sunday afternoon meant going to the hardcore matinee at the Safari Club.  I think I saw every single band signed to Revelation Records that year.  We also did the Fall Brawl, the Superbowl of Ska, and various Dischord bands were playing all the freaking time.   One of the guys from Iron Cross worked at Tower records, the guys from Scream lived close by, and you'd be talking to someone at a show and realize "Oh shit, you're in Government Issue aren't you?  I saw you guys not too long ago.  Good show man."

In retrospect, it was an incredible time to be in the area and at the age I was at.  I only wish I had appreciated it more at the time and been less of an angst ridden dick.  Come to think of it, I'm still an angst ridden dick, only a middle aged one now.

[Inlander]

Wow, a lot of these bands being listed are really far from being ignored.  Morphine?  Soul Coughing?  Both were in heavy rotation on MTV in the 90s and had pretty devoted fanbases.

Well, whether ignored then or ignored now, it's still ignored. Mind you, it's your thread so I guess you can define it however you want to. Still, Morphine, at least, deserve to be rediscovered by the kids today.

I can never understand why the Silver Jews aren't more appreciated. It's not like nobody's ever heard of them: everyone with an interest in the "indie scene" know about them, but very few of them seem to listen to them. Perplexing and disappointing!

[the Goat]

  A near-perfect blend of Joy Division, Fugazi and a splash of Husker Du. 

Ah--- 1989.  I was 16 and living in D.C. 

Ok, technically I lived in Falls Church, VA but that's inside the beltway.  In retrospect, '89 was an awesome year for music, though at the time I vividly remember thinking that good music was dead.  I probably saw Fugazi a dozen times in 89 alone.  They played non-stop around here and even though I enjoyed their music we'd always go "Damn, that wasn't as good as Minor Threat" or "Shit, Embrace was better than this".  That still didn't stop me from picking up 7 songs on vinyl as soon as it was released.  I watched Fugazi play everywhere from church halls, to a park across the street from the white house.  It was like "Hey, you wanna go see the Toasters on Tuesday, Fugazi on Saturday and Token Entry on Sunday?" 

"Yeah cool, but I only got like fifteen bucks, so let's skip the Toasters, I just saw them like three weeks ago."

"Yeah, ok."

Sunday afternoon meant going to the hardcore matinee at the Safari Club.  I think I saw every single band signed to Revelation Records that year.  We also did the Fall Brawl, the Superbowl of Ska, and various Dischord bands were playing all the freaking time.   One of the guys from Iron Cross worked at Tower records, the guys from Scream lived close by, and you'd be talking to someone at a show and realize "Oh shit, you're in Government Issue aren't you?  I saw you guys not too long ago.  Good show man."

In retrospect, it was an incredible time to be in the area and at the age I was at.  I only wish I had appreciated it more at the time and been less of an angst ridden dick.  Come to think of it, I'm still an angst ridden dick, only a middle aged one now.

I've had a similar experience, though not as epochal. In High School, I was 15 minutes outside Providence when Fort Thunder was still up and going strong, but all I remember doing is wishing Boston was closer. When I went away to college I realized that Boston was kind of bullshit and finally began to appreciate the homegrown scene Providence had. Saw Lightning Bolt a bunch, The White Mice, Tiny Hawks like 7 times and had Alec K. Redfearn stay at my house.

Now I have the same feeling living in Baltimore and wishing it was Providence. It's probably just a matter of time, but so many of the more-nationally-renown Baltimore bands have an aesthetic that literally gives me a headache.

[Divide by Zero]

Ah--- 1989.  I was 16 and living in D.C. 

Ok, technically I lived in Falls Church, VA but that's inside the beltway.  In retrospect, '89 was an awesome year for music, though at the time I vividly remember thinking that good music was dead.  I probably saw Fugazi a dozen times in 89 alone.  They played non-stop around here and even though I enjoyed their music we'd always go "Damn, that wasn't as good as Minor Threat" or "Shit, Embrace was better than this".  That still didn't stop me from picking up 7 songs on vinyl as soon as it was released.  I watched Fugazi play everywhere from church halls, to a park across the street from the white house.  It was like "Hey, you wanna go see the Toasters on Tuesday, Fugazi on Saturday and Token Entry on Sunday?" 

"Yeah cool, but I only got like fifteen bucks, so let's skip the Toasters, I just saw them like three weeks ago."

"Yeah, ok."

Sunday afternoon meant going to the hardcore matinee at the Safari Club.  I think I saw every single band signed to Revelation Records that year.  We also did the Fall Brawl, the Superbowl of Ska, and various Dischord bands were playing all the freaking time.   One of the guys from Iron Cross worked at Tower records, the guys from Scream lived close by, and you'd be talking to someone at a show and realize "Oh shit, you're in Government Issue aren't you?  I saw you guys not too long ago.  Good show man."

In retrospect, it was an incredible time to be in the area and at the age I was at.  I only wish I had appreciated it more at the time and been less of an angst ridden dick.  Come to think of it, I'm still an angst ridden dick, only a middle aged one now.

If only your teenaged grandchildren could appreciate what you had.

[MrSteevo]

I know they have some fans on the forum but almost no one I know/talk to has listened to or even heard of Wintersleep. It's a shame since they make far more interesting and better crafted music than, say, The National who have, in my opinion, an undeserved level of recognition/favor in the music media.

Umm well they did win "Best new Artist" at the Junos so people know them here in Canada.

[Tom]

I can never understand why the Silver Jews aren't more appreciated. It's not like nobody's ever heard of them: everyone with an interest in the "indie scene" know about them, but very few of them seem to listen to them. Perplexing and disappointing!

I wonder if it has anything to do with the severe lack of touring up until recently.

[TheFuriousWombat]

I know they have some fans on the forum but almost no one I know/talk to has listened to or even heard of Wintersleep. It's a shame since they make far more interesting and better crafted music than, say, The National who have, in my opinion, an undeserved level of recognition/favor in the music media.

Umm well they did win "Best new Artist" at the Junos so people know them here in Canada.

I'm well aware that they won. I can't comment on their popularity in Canada but here in the states it's pretty much nonexistent. None of my friends/people I know from home or at college know about them. Literally, none.

[michaelicious]

About 14 people actually watch the Junos.