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Exciting Sequel News
« on: 01 Jun 2008, 05:09 »

So, we all getting excited about the planned Donnie Darko sequel?

I plan to celebrate this news by shooting myself in the face!

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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #1 on: 01 Jun 2008, 05:56 »

What the fuck?? This is one of the worst movie ideas I've ever heard of.
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #2 on: 01 Jun 2008, 06:04 »

Wow, just wow...

Donny Darko was good, it wasn't as great as al it's obsessive fans said, but nor was it as bad as a lot of other people said, but just...why can't anyone leave well enough alone? why do we have to have this modern thing of squeezing every last cent out of an idea before you let it go?
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #3 on: 01 Jun 2008, 09:50 »

Jesus, why can't something just stand alone as a single project? Why does everything have to milked and turned into a cash cow?

I'm just waiting for a sequel to Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #4 on: 01 Jun 2008, 12:19 »

I thought it was a bad idea and then I read the article and now it seems like a Very Bad Idea. Donnie Darko is a movie that has a definite end and stands on it's own marvelously. Just Say No to Sequels.
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #5 on: 01 Jun 2008, 12:55 »

Elizabeth Berkeley is set to star. Maybe we'll get lucky and she'll get another sex scene with Kyle Maclachlan.

Ah, Showgirls. Will we ever see a better film?
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« Reply #6 on: 01 Jun 2008, 14:13 »

I thought the first one was a pretty pathetic film in the first place. This'll have to be pretty terrible to be worse. Though I'm sure it can accomplish it. I don't see this getting a notable theatrical release either.
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #7 on: 01 Jun 2008, 15:27 »

Just Say No to Sequels.

Not all sequels, what about Iron Man, Indian Jones and James Bond?
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« Reply #8 on: 01 Jun 2008, 15:36 »

Considering those films are built to be part of a franchise I don't think they count.  A sequel to Donnie Darko just seems like them trying to make a whole bunch of money off of a movie that was either amazing or a flaming pile of garbage (depending on who you talk to)  If they're doing it so the director can make a bunch of money to make better films then it's not a huge deal.  Look at Jean-Pierre Jeunet.  The man makes AMAZING films, City of Lost Children is just absolutely mindblowing.  And yet to make a bunch more money to continue making films he made the monstrosity that was Alien: Resurrection. 
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« Reply #9 on: 01 Jun 2008, 15:44 »

Didn't he direct Amélie also?  Because that movie was very good.
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« Reply #10 on: 01 Jun 2008, 15:56 »

I totally should have put that point in....because yes he did, and yeah it was amazing.
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #11 on: 01 Jun 2008, 18:50 »

Why would you bring this to my attention?  Do you hate me?

Jesus fucking christ, what the fuck is wrong with movie people.
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #12 on: 01 Jun 2008, 23:00 »

Okay, if I ever get the chance to direct a sequel to a movie that was clearly meant to be stand-alone... well I'd probably do it. Unless I had already managed to hit it big I'd probably take anything to direct (except porn, I know someone's gonna say it) that I could get my hands on, even if I was being a hack. Money is money. The film industry is an industry just as much as it is an outlet through which a particular form of art is made. More, even. The majority of people are in movies to make money. I want to be in movies, I'm hoping to be able to make a career in them, at least enough to live off of. Creating masterpieces of film is all well and good, but if you can't get the bills paid... I'm sure in this case its no different, someone wants to get paid and this time around the IP is a casualty of business.
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« Reply #13 on: 02 Jun 2008, 06:30 »

The thing that makes me uncomfortable about the "film industry is just a business" argument is the phenomenal amounts of money being spent, in combination with what seems to be an increasingly low strike-rate in terms of commercial returns. So basically, there's this massive industry which spends a large amount of its time spending what I feel, frankly, are obscene amounts of money, making products that by and large few people actually seem to want. I mean, I'll be genuinely surprised if this movie we're talking about here makes its money back - but I'll also be gobsmacked if that failure makes the industry thing twice about making another pile of dogshit. I know it's a bit like comparing apples and oranges, but it makes me feel almost angry that millions and millions and millions of dollars are squandered in such a way, when with even a fraction of that amount so many of the world's problems could be significantly eased. It makes me think that just maybe society's priorities are a little bit fucked up!
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #14 on: 02 Jun 2008, 07:20 »

Just Say No to Sequels.

Not all sequels, what about Iron Man, Indian Jones and James Bond?

That's more of a series to me. (I hate James Bond, though. And the last Indy was supposedly not very good.)
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #15 on: 02 Jun 2008, 09:05 »

Considering what a mess Richard Kelly made of DD: Director’s Cut, I don’t know if him not being involved in the sequel makes me feel better or worse about it.  Either way, it’s still a bad idea.
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« Reply #16 on: 02 Jun 2008, 13:12 »

The thing that makes me uncomfortable about the "film industry is just a business" argument is the phenomenal amounts of money being spent, in combination with what seems to be an increasingly low strike-rate in terms of commercial returns. So basically, there's this massive industry which spends a large amount of its time spending what I feel, frankly, are obscene amounts of money, making products that by and large few people actually seem to want. I mean, I'll be genuinely surprised if this movie we're talking about here makes its money back - but I'll also be gobsmacked if that failure makes the industry thing twice about making another pile of dogshit. I know it's a bit like comparing apples and oranges, but it makes me feel almost angry that millions and millions and millions of dollars are squandered in such a way, when with even a fraction of that amount so many of the world's problems could be significantly eased. It makes me think that just maybe society's priorities are a little bit fucked up!
Actually, I think that's one of the reasons why Alan Moore is so opposed to having his properties developed into films. And he's right, really. $20 million is cheap by studio standards. Think about that.
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #17 on: 02 Jun 2008, 20:59 »

You bring up a really good point Inlander, the majority of Hollywood movies do not make any returns. in the modern model of Hollywood, Large studios rely mainly on a few big blockbuster movies every year to make back all of the money they lose on smaller and less lucrative projects. In a way, the movie industry is spending a huge amount of money just to sort of feed itself internally, giving out money to people who make a living on the big guys' payroll in the hopes that they might be able to produce a blockbuster if they get any good working on smaller movies, or even the sweeter taste of a surprise hit that cost a lot less to make.

Of course, I'm really not aiming to be a part of that system. This is why I'm sort of rejecting the idea that Hollywood or New York is the place to be if you want to make it big, and instead when I graduate I'm going to head back down to Texas to see if I can get a job doing something in Austin.

And I also feel like its necessary to point out that I didn't say that the film industry is "just a business". I said its a hybrid of business and art, art cannot reliably sustain itself without business and catering to mass audiences, and the industry gets stale without a constant influx of art.
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #18 on: 02 Jun 2008, 21:32 »

Meanwhile, it seems that Hollywood has good success with films that don't match the 'blockbuster' ideal. If I'm not mistaken, one of the highest grossing films in recent history was Juno, a movie that cost about the amount of Jason Bateman and a fat suit (6.5 Million). The strange thing is that the box office has generally spoken on the issue that good movies (barring some kind of issue with release timing) perform well and bad ones do not. However, that seems irrelevant in the executive environment, flooding the market with lowest-common-denominator trash.

It's nothing to get worked up about though, I'm just going to forget about the industry by watching Norbit on HBO.
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« Reply #19 on: 02 Jun 2008, 23:11 »

See, but the thing is that Juno was a good movie.  You don't have to pay a lot of money to make a good movie, you just have to want to not pump out a stupid, pointless, shit movie for the sake of putting out something.

Restraint is a word that Hollywood needs to become acquainted with.
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« Reply #20 on: 03 Jun 2008, 07:04 »

Agreed.  They need to have more discerning executives.  I'm fine with some LCD stuff, but recently it's been like a landslide.  They need to recognize shit before they step in it, kinda thing.  Like Hottie and the Nottie/Blonde Ambition/Major Movie Star (hurr hurr) all getting about zero at the box office because they sucked so bad but still costing around 10 million or so to make.
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« Reply #21 on: 03 Jun 2008, 07:22 »

I thought this thread would be about how they're going to obviously need to make a sequel for the upcoming Hong Kong Phooey movie.
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #22 on: 03 Jun 2008, 07:23 »

So, we all getting excited about the planned Donnie Darko sequel?

I plan to celebrate this news by shooting myself in the face!

More info here.

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« Reply #23 on: 03 Jun 2008, 16:11 »

Are we honestly suprised by this? When hollywood are churning out the sequels at an unprecendented rate. However, I will hold off shooting myself in the face until the next Pirates of the Carribean sequel...
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« Reply #24 on: 03 Jun 2008, 20:29 »

In my opinion Pirates of the Caribbean could have had great sequels if they had followed the james bond/indiana jones style of completely separate stories with no overarching plot, and no need to have seen any of the others, it could have been great, and it could have gone on practically forever. But instead they chose to follow the same ill-fated route as the matrix and pretend that there was always a grand trilogy planned, and surprisingly enough they failed dismally.
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #25 on: 04 Jun 2008, 03:51 »

I'm pretty sure that when they cast signed the contracts for the first movie, they signed on for two sequels. It's something I recall reading in a review when the first movie came out.
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« Reply #26 on: 04 Jun 2008, 04:44 »

No, the script for the first movie was written as a stand alone deal. Then when they realised how big it was, they hired everyone back up for the other two, so the writers had to work out a way to make it look like they meant for it to be three all along. They failed to a degree.
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« Reply #27 on: 04 Jun 2008, 07:15 »

In my opinion Pirates of the Caribbean could have had great sequels if they had followed the james bond/indiana jones style of completely separate stories with no overarching plot, and no need to have seen any of the others, it could have been great, and it could have gone on practically forever. But instead they chose to follow the same ill-fated route as the matrix and pretend that there was always a grand trilogy planned, and surprisingly enough they failed dismally.

I think one of the main reasons why Pirates failed was because they kept pretty much the same cast for all three movies.  When they brought Barbossa back I knew that I wasn't going to watch the third movie.  The whole seperate stories thing might have worked if they had kept Johnny Depp and gotten rid of Orlando Bloom.  And I'm pretty sure the first was released standalone because it ties up everything nicely.
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« Reply #28 on: 04 Jun 2008, 10:10 »

 Damn Daveigh Chase got attractive as heck. I'm 18, so I am allowed to think so.
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« Reply #29 on: 04 Jun 2008, 10:22 »

Just because you like David Lynch doesn't mean you can be a pervert.

We live in a day when anything that tops the charts gets the green light for a sequel.  Hell, there's even talk of a Sex and the City sequel.  *le sigh*
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« Reply #30 on: 04 Jun 2008, 10:38 »

So how do you explain the Streetfighter movie sequel and the reboot of Mortal Kombat?
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« Reply #31 on: 04 Jun 2008, 10:52 »

Satan. Satan explains everything.
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« Reply #32 on: 04 Jun 2008, 12:21 »

reboot of Mortal Kombat?
Wait wut.

They're getting KMFDM for another bumpin' soundtrack, right?

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« Reply #33 on: 04 Jun 2008, 14:23 »

 They are completely ignoring the events of Annihilation and trying again with Mortal Kombat. I think it will be awesome.
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« Reply #34 on: 04 Jun 2008, 20:39 »

GOOD. Annihilation suuuucked, but I was always a fan of the first. (I haven't seen it in years though, but I still think the theme is awesome.)
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« Reply #35 on: 04 Jun 2008, 23:06 »

Annihilation may be incredibly cheesey and badly written but it is by no means bad. It is extremely entertaining.
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« Reply #36 on: 05 Jun 2008, 10:07 »

Then this is where we will just have to differ. I didn't find it entertaining at all.
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #37 on: 05 Jun 2008, 10:43 »

I know the driector of Donnie Darko is all kinds of pissed about this sequel.  I didn't like Donnie Darko in the first place, so... meh.


Here'es some interesting sequels/remakes for you all:

Robocop Remake (and a new Robocop)
The Last Starfighter Remake (I cannot put words to describe how much I hate this)
Conan the Barbarian Remake (but what about the classic scene with Arnie decking a camel, and breaking its jaw)
Meatballs Remake  (yes, the classic Bill Murray camp movie, the bastards)
Short Circuit Remake (Johnny 5 rebuilt?  Again?)
Indy 5 (And after this, The Adventures of Mutt Jones)
Pirates 4 (yeah...)
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« Reply #38 on: 05 Jun 2008, 12:21 »

Am I the only one who thinks that Hollywood have run out of ideas and are desperately scrambling to find new 'product'? Sequels, remakes and just plain awful films seems to be their only produce. I used to be a real movie buff, went to the cinema at least once a week, now I go maybe twice a year! Being a big comic book fan, the big names always call me from cinema retirement but beyond that, nothing.
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« Reply #39 on: 05 Jun 2008, 12:45 »

Am I the only one who thinks that Hollywood have run out of ideas

Yes.  Nobody has ever said this before in the history of cinema.
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« Reply #40 on: 05 Jun 2008, 13:10 »


Conan the Barbarian Remake (but what about the classic scene with Arnie decking a camel, and breaking its jaw)


The thing with this is, even though the first one was a really good movie, it didn't have much to do with the actual Conan literature.  It was basically using names of people and places from the books for the movie.  Conan is supposed to be more of a Celt than anything else, for instance.  Whereas other movies based on books take a lot from the source material, this took barely anything, so it's not really what I'd call a remake, since they're not basing it off the first one.  Kind of a 'Batman Begins' type situation. 
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« Reply #41 on: 05 Jun 2008, 16:42 »

Am I the only one who thinks that Hollywood have run out of ideas

Yes.



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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #42 on: 05 Jun 2008, 16:48 »

Here'es some interesting sequels/remakes for you all:

Robocop Remake (and a new Robocop)
The Last Starfighter Remake (I cannot put words to describe how much I hate this)
Conan the Barbarian Remake (but what about the classic scene with Arnie decking a camel, and breaking its jaw)
Meatballs Remake  (yes, the classic Bill Murray camp movie, the bastards)
Short Circuit Remake (Johnny 5 rebuilt?  Again?)
Indy 5 (And after this, The Adventures of Mutt Jones)
Pirates 4 (yeah...)

that's the least offensive remake/sequel/whatever list i've ever seen. we had a thread a while back that had a much much worse list in it which included The Creature from the Black Lagoon and a bunch of others that just shouldn't be messed with. someone who's good at searching should find it so we can all be enraged at it again.
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« Reply #43 on: 05 Jun 2008, 17:24 »

I seriously don't see how a remake of Last Starfighter is a bad thing.  Even seeing it in the theater as a kid I thought it was a goofy, cheezy movie and I fail to see how a remake could be particularly horrible.  It was like Karate Kid in space.
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« Reply #44 on: 05 Jun 2008, 17:30 »

oh are you serious

How does a group of people that listen to and enjoy Tears for Fears have so much influence over Hollywood?
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« Reply #45 on: 05 Jun 2008, 21:24 »

Then this is where we will just have to differ. I didn't find it entertaining at all.

 How much do you enjoy watching people kick ass? If the answer is not a whole lot, then fine. If the answer is a lot, then you have lost me.
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« Reply #46 on: 05 Jun 2008, 22:00 »

I hate James Bond, though.

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« Reply #47 on: 06 Jun 2008, 07:10 »

How much do you enjoy watching people kick ass? If the answer is not a whole lot, then fine. If the answer is a lot, then you have lost me.

The first one was so much better, though! I just thought the story behind the second one was really dumb! And they switched actors for Lord Rayden and it was a bad switch.

WHAT

Casino Royale was the only one I actually liked. The rest of them I can do without, because I find them boring and I hate the token objectified hot chick.
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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #48 on: 06 Jun 2008, 08:47 »

Casino Royale was the only one I actually liked. The rest of them I can do without, because I find them boring and I hate the token objectified hot chick.

So let me get this straight. You find the rest of the James Bonds movies boring, whilst this one has an hour-and-a-half-long scene of them playing some fucking poker?!

I think you must misunderstand the meaning of boring. Is English your native language?

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Re: Exciting Sequel News
« Reply #49 on: 06 Jun 2008, 09:46 »

There was other shit going on in that scene. Yes English is my native language. Also, I don't have balls to bust, because I'm a girl. Also, I honestly do not give a shit about James Bond. Get over it.
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