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nettatea

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shirt hasnt come
« on: 09 Jun 2008, 15:36 »

I ordered a shirt in early May (appx May 9) and I have not recieved it. I sent an email and no response. The credit card has been billed... where's my shirt? I would appreciate shipping info and some kind of response....
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #1 on: 09 Jun 2008, 17:43 »

Depending on where you are, it may take another week or two. I wouldn't get too concerned yet, they aren't the fastest bunch ("two person company", ect. ect.)

I haven't found e-mail to be the best way to go. Contact Cristi personally on AIM (username qcmerch), because that way it's in real time, and you know you'll be heard. She may pop up in this thread, asking for your information (at least a name), so you may want to add that. Or an email.

There's been a lot of similar questions. Merch seems to take 1-2 months, so, again, don't be surprised. I ordered Jan 15th, lol, so...  :wink: It could be worse.
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #2 on: 09 Jun 2008, 19:07 »

In case it helps, Cristi's list of what information she needs in order to track down an order is at
http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,18905.msg606052.html#msg606052
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #3 on: 09 Jun 2008, 23:05 »

Quote from: News Feed
Speaking of shirts, we should have the first batch of Kittymonster in tomorrow and will begin sending them out post-haste. Thank you for your patience.

That's from today's news feed; I'm assuming that means he'll be shipping other recent orders at the same time.

I ordered a shirt about the same time as you, but I'm not too worried yet.  They need time to print up and ship the stuff.  :-D
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #4 on: 10 Jun 2008, 07:46 »

I ordered a tshirt in early April. I haven't received it yet.
I think it's a bit unfair that they're focusing on their newest design instead of accommodating other orders.
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #5 on: 10 Jun 2008, 17:23 »

I don't think that's really what's going on.

People don't seem to understand that it seriously is just two people dealing with the ordering. Sometimes things get shuffled around. There are threads like this all of the time --I suggest taking the advice given (contacting through AIM, or sitting back and relaxing for a bit) or check out some of the other similar threads and seeing what was said there by Cristi and others as to what information she needs to look up your order via E-mail. (I think it's your name and the address you requested for shipping to, but I am not totally positive).
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #6 on: 11 Jun 2008, 10:17 »

Thanks for the responses. I realize that it's a 'two person company' but if it's normal for deliveries that are supposed to take "two to three weeks" to take more than twice as long, I think it's appropriate to tell that to the customer directly. Or, alternatively, if that's not terribly common but happens a lot, perhaps they should make a standard email to send to those people whose shirts seem to be taking 4-6 weeks or longer.
It's important to me that the shirt arrive soon, or I'm going to have to change the address it needs to be sent to... I would really appreciate a response from an admin (who can find the email that I ordered the shirt with through my username, which is the same email that I sent a complaint with. The complaint email contains the address the shirt was supposed to be sent to.)
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #7 on: 11 Jun 2008, 12:59 »

Just a note:

Quote from: QC Merch Page
Here's the way shirt orderin' works around here: We place orders to the printer every couple of weeks, which means all shirts are sold on a pre-order basis. All orders should ship within 2-4 weeks, although times may vary.

I think it's also good to note that just because something SHIPS between 2 and 4 weeks, it will still take another week (or two, depending on where you are) to get to you. So, if they actually SEND on week two, it will still be week three or four before you get it. So, if they ship on week four, you won't get it until week five.

This is good to think about, yes?
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #8 on: 11 Jun 2008, 13:34 »

I ordered mine in the middle of April, so far nothing. I have emailed, pm'd and posted on the boards to no avail. If it is a two man operation then maybe it's time to take on some more staff to cope with the orders. I don't mind the delays, it's the communication blackout that seems to be company policy that gets on my nerves.
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #9 on: 11 Jun 2008, 13:35 »

I'm sorry, I had remembered it being 2-3 weeks with no "times may vary." Nevertheless, this is 5 weeks later now and having sent an email over a week ago, having already been billed May 9th (which usually indicates shipment), and having received no shipping confirmation or tracking data, I feel like I deserve some kind of response.
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #10 on: 11 Jun 2008, 17:49 »

I don't think that's really what's going on.

People don't seem to understand that it seriously is just two people dealing with the ordering. Sometimes things get shuffled around. There are threads like this all of the time --I suggest taking the advice given (contacting through AIM, or sitting back and relaxing for a bit) or check out some of the other similar threads and seeing what was said there by Cristi and others as to what information she needs to look up your order via E-mail. (I think it's your name and the address you requested for shipping to, but I am not totally positive).
Even so, they shouldn't pledge a 2-4 week order time period if they can't stick to it.
Also, having hours that we can contact the person on AIM would be fantastic. The username has been on my list for weeks, and I haven't seen him/her on once.
I've been waiting for over 2 months for my order, and it's ridiculous. They shouldn't take payment until they're ready to ship. I'm out $20 with nothing to gain.
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #11 on: 11 Jun 2008, 17:52 »

We're catching up on a lot of backorders and such now.

The 2-4 weeks applies to probably 95% of our orders, I don't know the exact numbers but sometimes things just run out of stock or PayPal drops a notification and there's not much we can do about it but wait.
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #12 on: 12 Jun 2008, 01:16 »

I ordered a tshirt in early April. I haven't received it yet.
I think it's a bit unfair that they're focusing on their newest design instead of accommodating other orders.

 That is not how we work at all. I am shipping backorders, current orders and pre-orders. Backorders first. ALWAYS. When I get a shipment from the printer, I go back and pull anything I didn't have in stock when I processed the orders from that day up until the current processed day. Then I start filling the new orders (new designs are included in that.) I process and ship things in the same order that they were placed, giving precedence to older orders. If you haven't received your order yet it is because we don't have it on hand and are waiting for it to arrive from the printer. Beyond that, I tend to be on AIM in the afternoon and evening into the early morning (EST). If you are looking for me before 2 or 3pm EST I probably will not be available. It is difficult to pack orders (away from my desk) and be online to answer questions at the same time.
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #13 on: 13 Jun 2008, 10:21 »

Thank you for the reply, I will try to find you on AIM and I will email again but if the shirt will take more than 13 days longer to get to my house, I need to change the address to which it will be sent. Please let me know if I can do this!
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #14 on: 16 Jun 2008, 01:13 »

>>  Yea, it's long.  Nobody's making you read it though, so proceed only if you want to.

Okay, so allow me to start by saying that I really only created this account to lurk.  Why? See sig, focusing on the "reclusive" part and the "no social life" part (yes, I'm pathetic enough that forums count as social interactions)**.

So I suppose I always imagined that one day I would make my big debut on the Hi, I'm New page and then throw myself into the discussions that I read so avidly and become one of the regulars around here... but I've just decided that can wait, for there is something that I must share with you all now.

You see, I've gotten very annoyed over the past couple of years reading thread after thread of "OMFG!!! MY SH1RT ISNT HEERE YET AFTER 2 WEEKZZZZZ!!!1!" (exaggerated to emphasize level of annoyance).  I guess you could say I finally snapped when I read this thread, or perhaps it just had everything to do with my late shirt finally arriving a couple of weeks ago.  Nonetheless, I am here to defend Jeph and Christi and share my story with you, mainly so you'll all stop freaking out about all of this (not that I think that will actually happen, but still, the story must be told).  You see, I had a longer delay in shirt delivery than any of those in the stories I've read here, but really, I didn't freak out about it.  Sure, I went through a handful of angry phases about it all, and I sent a couple e-mails that were a bit more abrasive than I would prefer them to have been (sorry, guys!), but overall, I kept my cool.  In my efforts to get the shirt I had ordered, I also tried looking on AIM but never managed to be online at the same time as Christi (probably mostly my fault, as I'm not a big AIM fan and wasn't really checking that often), and I even sent a PM.  Well, I never heard back from the PM, and I only got a reply on a couple of the e-mails, but the responses that I did get were never negative or angry or anything.  When I did get responses, they were apologetic for the delay and assured me that the problem would be taken care of.  There was no interrogation questioning the validity of my claim of not receiving the product, no telling me to be quiet and just wait longer, and no indication that I was just one more unimportant customer.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that when I was in communication with Christi, I was convinced that I was really not being ignored or forgotten.  I really think that they just get too much volume to keep track of personally communicating with every person who sends an e-mail about merch.  I mean, look at how many people post on these forums complaining about "late" merch that is still within the timeframe specified for the expected delivery.  I know a lot of people have legitimate claims, such as things that really are late or the issue of changing an address, but there are a lot of people needlessly freaking out who probably help to fill the qcmerch inbox, therefore make it harder for ANY of us to get a response.  When I was waiting for my shirt, I waited quite a while after it could start to be considered "late" (or at least I think I did... It was kind of a while ago, so let's just go with "I hope I did...") before complaining about missing merch.  Then, there was no flooding of the inbox, just an e-mail every couple months (and like I said, a few of them were a bit angry, but hey, I'm not here to say I'm perfect... because I'm not, not even close).  I never felt the need to come freak out about it on the forum and subject all of the other readers in the community to my personal complaints.

So maybe I did things wrong; maybe I would've gotten my merchandise earlier if I had been more aggressive about it.  I have no regrets though.  See, after a while, you just come to accept that it will never arrive.  You remember to send that e-mail every few months just because it can't hurt to do it, but you don't expect anything of it.  The $20 that you spent is ancient history, and while you're not happy to have lost it, you really don't miss it anymore and can at least take comfort in knowing that you did support the artist of a webcomic that you still love, even after all this time, even after feeling a bit betrayed.  Then, out of nowhere, a package arrives... a squishy package; you are confused because you don't remember ordering anything recently.  Perhaps the surprise is even greater because in the excitement of actually getting something thicker than paper in the mail, you forget to check the return address.  You open it up, and there it is---the now epic shirt.  At this point, since that money feels like ancient history, it's just like a free shirt!  It's like it's your birthday, and a long lost friend that you haven't heard from in ages (but who you may still vaguely remember owes you $20) has sent you a gift!  It makes you love the shirt even more than you would have if it had been delivered on time. 

That's when you remember that the e-mails you got back, when you did get responses, were always friendly and trying to be helpful.  You remember that it really is just two people running this show and that people are fallible.  You recall the shear volume of people complaining on the forums about merch and suddenly shudder at the thought of what the e-mail inbox must look like; suddenly you're not really angry at all about not getting a response every time and thankful if you even got one!  Moral of the story is, there are too many people crying wolf, so to speak.  If everybody complains about missing merch before it's really an issue, it just makes it harder for everyone, and the people with bigger merch issues, like severe delays or address changes, might not get noticed.  Have some patience, and remember that you're dealing with individuals, not a huge anonymous corporation that you can yell at all you want and that has a bunch of drones to take care of all of the busywork like mailing packages.  Yes, there are issues, and no it's not perfect, but just know that going into it.  Stop thinking about the "only run by two people" issue as a bad thing.  If your order never arrived from a large corporation, you call, sit on hold, talk to million people who transfer you all over the place, and end up feeling hopeless and knowing that you're just a number, your order doesn't matter, and it will probably never arrive.  If you get through to Jeph and Christi, they actually treat you like a person and if they receive your message, they try to deal with the issue, no matter how long it's been.  You're somebody here, and that should mean something.

So really, the main issue is the communication, I guess.  I've been pretty hard on the complaining customers here, so I guess it's only fair to throw some constructive criticism at Jeph and Christi too now.  If there is a known delay, a courtesy e-mail would be really nice.  Also, a lot of people have issues trying to contact you and get responses, and the longer the issue stands, the more frustrating that becomes.  Perhaps you should have more than one e-mail address to deal with merch questions, one for general questions, one for emergency issues (ie. address changes, uhh... yea that's all I can think of for emergency merch issues), and maybe a couple that are specific to how late an item is.  That would really help to make sure that the biggest issues are known and dealt with first.  Hey, you could even have one address that's just for orders up to 4 weeks late and just NEVER READ IT!!!   :-P

So yea, overall, just stop complaining so much, everyone.  You're not being ignored, at least not intentionally.  And if everyone would calm down, it would make it a helluva lot easier to make yourself heard when you have a REAL issue.

Oh, and by the way, in case you're curious, I waited almost exactly two years for my shirt.  That's right.  TWO YEARS!!  I ordered it near the end of June of 2006, and it arrived a couple weeks ago.  And you know what?  I'm thrilled about to have it, and I'm about to go order something else.



Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to crawl back into my shadow and go back to lurking until I decide to properly introduce myself on the "Hi, I'm New" page and actually go talk about the comic.  Toodles.


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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #15 on: 16 Jun 2008, 03:22 »

I'll be honest, you're a hell of a lot more patient than I will ever be. Two years is a huge amount of time to wait - hell, I had difficulty reading through your whole post. But to come out of that with a smile on your face makes you a candidate for sainthood.
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #16 on: 16 Jun 2008, 04:42 »

These guys suck, I had to walk around topless for like a month before my tshirt came.
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #17 on: 16 Jun 2008, 06:52 »

This thread makes me feel guilty for my shirt having come on time.

Jeph and Cristi, can you please be less efficient with my orders?
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #18 on: 16 Jun 2008, 06:53 »

Dammit öde don't provoke the grumpy people.

I think the moral of the story here is: Cut the QC crew some slack! They work hard and they do it for you. Aren't they great? I think they're great. Woo!
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #19 on: 17 Jun 2008, 15:11 »

I'm glad that you're so patient. However, I think that it's reasonable to be upset when a certain time line for shipment is set and isn't actually met. I'm not freaking out or anything, but if it will take longer I need to speak with someone who can change the address it will be sent to. It is the company's problems that led to this delay, so I would appreciate some communication.
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #20 on: 19 Jun 2008, 22:40 »

I'm serious! Please somebody answer me about changing the address!

I'm sorry to corrupt these forums with merchandise complaints, but I'll stop as soon as someone helps me!
I've emailed, and messaged, and tried for several weeks to find qcmerch online but no luck.
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Re: shirt hasnt come
« Reply #21 on: 20 Jun 2008, 01:23 »

Hey dude, give up. I know I have. If they arrive cool if not I've lost $48, could be worse. By the way there's a new official Merchandise thread:

http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,20320.0.html

Try posting there if you can be bothered.

And by the by, Lunchbox. "They're doing it for you" are they fuck? I didn't pay with kisses and sweet nothings. Jeph and co. are doing it to earn a living, to make money which is fair enough that's what business is for but let's not pretend like they're doing us all a huge favour. This isn't grumpiness, I would be fine with it if Jeph and co. said "hey dude, sorry but we're swamped, it's gonna take about six months to get your order out" I would say "cool mate, thanks for the info, I look forward to seeing them" what I think bugs people the most is the total lack of communication. There's being chilled and there's being a doormat, I'm chilled...
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