Topic: Best PC Games (pre-XP) (Read 32414 times)

Leinad · « **Reply #50 on:** 09 Aug 2008, 00:47 »

I played AoE II before I played AoE I, so when I went back and tried to enjoy AoE I I simply could not because of no queue's, no formations, and your troops did not move in a group.

Spluff · « **Reply #51 on:** 09 Aug 2008, 02:42 »

I preferred AoE to AoE II because of it's thriving multiplayer community. After the population hack had been applied, furiously pumping out horse archers and vying for the high land in a DM was ridiculously fun.

Jackie Blue · « **Reply #52 on:** 09 Aug 2008, 15:27 »

I've got AoE 2. Despite being very good at the single-player campaigns in other RTS games, I cannot for the fucking life of me figure out how the fuck to beat the VERY FIRST JOAN OF ARC STORY MISSION (or maybe it's the second one, anyway the first one where you have a castle).

I get the feeling I'm missing some insanely basic strategy but every time I tried it, I would fortify my defenses like a madman and still get gang raped eventually.

Also I kept running out of resources.

PizzaSHARK · « **Reply #53 on:** 09 Nov 2008, 01:03 »

Quote from: Spluff on 02 Aug 2008, 00:55

Baldur's Gate I & II
Planescape: Torment
Fallout I & II
Deus Ex
System Shock 2
Half Life

He's got it nailed. Surprised people even remember Torment... amazing game, but it just never got the attention it deserved.

DonInKansas · « **Reply #54 on:** 09 Nov 2008, 05:24 »

Quote from: Scandanavian War Machine on 03 Aug 2008, 15:30

Thief: Deadly Shadows is a great old game that has somehow managed to withstand the test of time and still be great. you should get it.

too bad my stupid, futuristic computer can't play it.

An excellent game! Why can't you play it? Dosbox is your friend, man............

I also love me some Quest For Glory.

snalin · « **Reply #55 on:** 09 Nov 2008, 06:28 »

As Jackie said; AOE1&2 is good games, but both have some missions that are impossibly hard. Like the AOE1 missions where you had to cross a fucking mile of enemy troops that were better than your own, without any healers or chances to rebuild. The only way to win was to use some ridiculous amounts of hit and run tactics.

And I just tried that AOE2 mission. It can be done, if you are able to survive the frustration of the bloody longbowmen that always makes you units run outside the walls to be slaughtered. If I'd bothered to do it all again, I'd have to use a hefty amount of conversion power.

OP: try out dungeon siege 2. It's the best mindless grind feast ever.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #56 on:** 09 Nov 2008, 13:06 »

A brilliant and immensely underrated RPG: Arcanum. BUY THIS GAME. It's fantastic. It's set in this weird Victorian, steam-punk, machines and magic world and it has such incredible replayability b/c of how customizable the characters are and....well it's one of my favorite games ever.

A brilliant and immensely underrated FPS: No One Lives Forever. Seriously, this is one of the most enjoyable shooters I've ever played. I love it! Intentionally campy/goofy/hilarious Bond era spy action with an appropriately nutty plot, great villains and some of the best, most innovative levels I've come across in the genre. Lots and lots of fun.

KvP · « **Reply #57 on:** 09 Nov 2008, 13:26 »

Quote from: TheFuriousWombat on 09 Nov 2008, 13:06

A brilliant and immensely underrated RPG: Arcanum. BUY THIS GAME. It's fantastic. It's set in this weird Victorian, steam-punk, machines and magic world and it has such incredible replayability b/c of how customizable the characters are and....well it's one of my favorite games ever.

NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE NOPE

Actually one thing you gotta look out for with that one is the surprisingly steep system reqs. It looks worse than the Fallouts but my lappy, on which I could play the Fallouts handily, could not run it. Unoptimized engine! Unoptimized game, really.

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #58 on:** 09 Nov 2008, 15:44 »

Aww c'mon, what was wrong with Arcanum? Any niggling bugs were fixed in patches and everything else was awesome.

CarrionMan · « **Reply #59 on:** 09 Nov 2008, 16:59 »

How about the Marathon series? You can download it for free at the Bungie webstie!

makeout hobo · « **Reply #60 on:** 09 Nov 2008, 18:35 »

Dune!
Can't believe no one has suggested this one yet, especially considering Jeph's love of zee quotes.
Christ, old now, abandonware style...and then after that, play Dune 2.
Battlezone (the 98 version)
Dark Reign (another 98 game)

Reed · « **Reply #61 on:** 09 Nov 2008, 20:18 »

Quote from: TheFuriousWombat on 09 Nov 2008, 13:06

A brilliant and immensely underrated FPS: No One Lives Forever. Seriously, this is one of the most enjoyable shooters I've ever played. I love it! Intentionally campy/goofy/hilarious Bond era spy action with an appropriately nutty plot, great villains and some of the best, most innovative levels I've come across in the genre. Lots and lots of fun.

NOLF was the god damn best of the best....I STILL play that game and it's been out for what....6 years?

Spluff · « **Reply #62 on:** 09 Nov 2008, 20:28 »

Quote from: TheFuriousWombat on 09 Nov 2008, 15:44

Aww c'mon, what was wrong with Arcanum? Any niggling bugs were fixed in patches and everything else was awesome.

As far as RPGs go, the RP part of this game was amazing. The actual G part was bug ridden and really badly designed, unfortunately (kind of like all Troika games).

TheFuriousWombat · « **Reply #63 on:** 11 Nov 2008, 12:03 »

It wasn't that badly designed and rarely were bugs game breaking in any sense. The game did freeze up and such at times though. No, it wasn't at all perfect but it did get patched and even before then was certainly playable. Plus it was just so damn fun! And you could have sex with sheep which is pretty hilarious! I have really fond memories of that game and sincerely wish Troika was still around. Vampire: The Masquerade was, while also really buggy, amazing as well. If only they could have lasted and implemented some tighter programing they'd be unstoppable!

ackblom12 · « **Reply #64 on:** 11 Nov 2008, 13:27 »

Oh Troika, how i miss thee and your amazingly fun/broken games.

evernew · « **Reply #65 on:** 13 Nov 2008, 02:36 »

Quote from: Spluff on 02 Aug 2008, 00:55

Baldur's Gate I & II
Planescape: Torment
Fallout I & II
Deus Ex
System Shock 2
Half Life

This man or woman knows what he or she is talking about.

PizzaSHARK · « **Reply #66 on:** 13 Nov 2008, 04:49 »

Quote from: ackblom12 on 11 Nov 2008, 13:27

Oh Troika, how i miss thee and your amazingly fun/broken games.

Bloodlines was a fun, if buggy, FPS/RPG hybrid. I never did get a chance to play Redemption.

I tried playing Temple of Elemental Evil, but I wasn't able to get into it... it was much more strict about PnP rules than the Infinity Engine and Aurora Engine games were. I remember making my party and getting aggravated by the fact that most of the Feats didn't actually tell you what they did, and the manual didn't, either!

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #67 on:** 13 Nov 2008, 07:30 »

I just reinstalled my copy of Bloodlines actually, and I'm running through it with a Ventrue atm. With the official patches and then later the unofficial patches it takes away pretty much all of the game-breaking/crash/death bugs, though there all of those graphical glitches are pretty much there. Still, fun.

OneoftheLost · « **Reply #68 on:** 13 Nov 2008, 19:17 »

Quote from: evernew on 13 Nov 2008, 02:36

Quote from: Spluff on 02 Aug 2008, 00:55
Baldur's Gate I & II
Planescape: Torment
Fallout I & II
Deus Ex
System Shock 2
Half Life

This man or woman knows what he or she is talking about.

Amen. Also. FREESPACE. Good stuff right thur. Oh.... and Wing Commander. The original. Also, as was stated earlier. The Thief series is supposed to be good.

I personally would like to point torwards a few of my favorites.

Sid Meier's Pirates
Sid Meier's Civilization 1-3 are all very good old school games. (I know at least 3 is for PC) and Civ 4 is pure gaming bliss. (Yup, I still play it every single day.

Not as oldschool, but still fun. Freelancer. Oh, and Fallout 1 is awesome.... and Diablo 2. Bloodlines is another good one, a tad bit buggy though.

Really, this thread has ALOT of good titles, I would look for game demos and reviews online if I were you. Good luck in your search!

Chesire Cat · « **Reply #69 on:** 14 Nov 2008, 16:36 »

Descent 1-3 played with a Joystick with a hat-switch and possibly a throttle.

Surgoshan · « **Reply #70 on:** 14 Nov 2008, 17:26 »

I enjoyed the heck out of the LucasArts game Afterlife. Some really good, creative humor in there.

actreal · « **Reply #71 on:** 14 Nov 2008, 21:11 »

Best pre-PC game:

Elite

GreyGabe · « **Reply #72 on:** 15 Nov 2008, 14:44 »

Well... most of the games I used to play (and still do, some of them) were listed, but...

Myst series (if you like ridiculously intricate puzzles)
King's Quest series
Space Quest series
The Longest Journey

That's all the games (that haven't already been listed) that I can think of right now, anyway.

Edit:

Wait, has nobody said Zork? Zork! Sure it's completely text-based, but it was still interesting.

PizzaSHARK · « **Reply #73 on:** 17 Nov 2008, 22:06 »

Quote from: Chesire Cat on 14 Nov 2008, 16:36

Descent 1-3 played with a Joystick with a hat-switch and possibly a throttle.

Amen. Six degrees of freedom (up-down, left-right, forward-backward) in a shooter really is something fun. I still want a Descent 4, maybe using the Source engine

If you pick up Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate II, there're some mods you definitely want to pick up. First, you'll want to get BG Trilogy (only if you get both games and have them installed at the same time), which lets you play all the way from Candlekeep (the start of the first game) to the Throne of Bhaal (the end of the second game's expansion pack, which I imagine would come bundled with BG2 these days) using the updated, BG2 version of the Infinity Engine, which is pretty handy. You get the full spell list from BG2, along with all of the new classes and kits, and a little bit of user-generated content between the two games to preserve continuity.

You'll also want to pick up the fixpacks and official patches for both games.

BG2 had a strong modding community, and ended up producing some very high-quality mods. I'd personally recommend Ascension+Tournabout+Redemption (Ascension being the core mod, and the other two being minimods that add a little to Ascension), which "restores" the finale of Throne of Bhaal to the way the developers would have liked to make it, had they more time (David Gaider's - one of the developers - words.)

I'd also recommend the Solaufein mod, which adds a new NPC to the game you can recruit, and is honestly the only one I've found to be worth having so far. Also made by the same author are the EaseofUse mod (which predictably includes numerous optional tweaks to make some elements of the game less of a pain in the ass - ammunition, scrolls, and potions stacking to 9999 instead of 40 or 5, etc) and Tactics2 mod (which adjusts several encounters in the game to be more challenging, adds a couple of completely new optional encounters, and includes numerous AI and scripting adjustments.)

The readmes will tell you in what order to install everything (it's all very streamlined and simple... just run the executables and follow the prompts), though the order is generally official patches, then fixpacks, then everything else

Red Peril · « **Reply #74 on:** 18 Nov 2008, 11:22 »

The Furious Wombat and Dire Bacterium: Now I know the other two people who bought NOLF, I cannot imagine you as anything other than perfect.
My other choice would be Hidden and Dangerous-Lousy translation and buggy but one of the best action games of the 90's. Just get the patch or you condemn yourself to torment.

lyra · « **Reply #75 on:** 21 Nov 2008, 18:00 »

Oregon Trail. It'll take you back to the good ol' days.

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