Topic: World of Warcraft (Read 651118 times)

Skelley · « **Reply #1400 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 04:02 »

The idea of Grom Hellscream being the new Warchief and declaring open war on the Alliance makes it seem less likely that they're going to encourage the player base being that much nicer.

Of course, even inside each faction most people seem to hate each other. Especially Gaetusk. There is no one on my server who is hated by more people than Gaetusk.

maxusy3k · « **Reply #1401 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 12:30 »

Expansion Details announced at Blizzcon.

Some of that stuff sounds wicked crazy, you guys.

maxusy3k · « **Reply #1402 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 12:41 »

Considering the actual confirmed stuff, Gnome Priests are the least of your lore issues.

0bsessions · « **Reply #1403 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 13:39 »

I haven't seen anything that doesn't make sense confirmed lore-wise yet. The only shit I've had a legitimate problem with hasn't been touched on even briefly as of yet.

But hey, the trailer looks fucking badass: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujjEhgEDA-c and most of the gameplay changes have been confirmed, with some exciting new stuff and some slight changes (It appears Orgrimmar WILL stick around, but I get the feeling Durotar might be fucked and it's looking like Duskwood will be flooded instead of Thousand Needles).

Lines · « **Reply #1404 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 13:55 »

Heroic Deadmines. Oh yeah.

Dazed · « **Reply #1405 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 16:55 »

Fuck Thrall. Please, god, enough with the Thrall-centric bullshit, I've had it with Orc Jesus. He's a boring mary-sue and needs to be killed.

Skelley · « **Reply #1406 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 17:25 »

Gear changes everywhere!

MP5? GONE. Replaced by Spirit
Spell power? GONE. Replaced by Int for mana and spell power.
Attack power? GONE. Replaced by Agility, which provides two attack power for rogues, hunters, shamans. Replaced by Strength for Warriors, Death Knights, and Paladins
Defense? GONE. I should've been paying more attention to this, I can't remember what it was replaced with.
Armor Penetration? GONE. Too mathy, they said. Gonna be replaced by something called 'Mastery'

Spell changes? RANKS GONE.
They're now just gonna scale based on level. Fun.

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #1407 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 18:43 »

I'm going to have to admit, I have no idea what you're angry at, because I don't like reading spreadsheets in my free time, I like playing video games.

est · « **Reply #1408 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 18:44 »

So basically they are reverting it back the way it was originally?

Alex C · « **Reply #1409 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 19:35 »

I like tinkering with gear quite a bit, but I do think that their attribute system turned into a big hot tranny mess at some point. Talent synergies aside, Spirit, Intellect and Mp5 are all essentially regeneration stats under the current implementation, which makes for pretty boring and unintuitive decision making. For example, choosing between more spell power or mana regeneration attributes hits me as a potentially interesting decision. A balancing act between brute force and staying power is a pretty intuitive concept and with a bit of experimentation I think people could get pretty close to figuring out what balance they need to strike through gameplay. Intellect vs. Spirit, however, is not really like that these days. They both essentially serve the same purpose, so the trick is simply recognizing which item has the arbitrary ratio that spits out the bigger numbers.

As for Armor Penetration, I won't miss that either. It's a powerful stat and I plan to abuse it while it's available, but it's unintuitive as hell and cannot really be properly evaluated without knowing your target's armor value.

0bsessions · « **Reply #1410 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 19:57 »

Defense will essentially be replaced by talent tree stuff.

Lines · « **Reply #1411 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 20:09 »

TBH, I'm glad they're switching mp5 and spell power back to spirit and int. Whatever they did with WotLK changed what it was with TBC and I don't understand it as much as I used to and have been having gear problems because of it. Really, it'll be a lot easier when you think about it. Instead of balancing at least 4 different things (dunno if penetration and haste are affected by this?) when looking at what to wear for what spec in what situation (ie. pve and instances for me), this will make it much better for people like me who don't get/want to bother understanding everything about gear just because darn it, I just want to play the game.

I like that they'll be changing the landscape, but I don't know if I like the idea of a tauren paladin or gnome priest and having other races become druids. (Personally, I like that it's only NElves and Tauren. Are there any worgen or troll druids NPCs anywhere?) Also considering I think the lore is so strong in WotLK, why go and mess with it? It's my favorite part of this expansion!

Alex C · « **Reply #1412 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 20:20 »

I can't bring myself to care too much about that stuff 'cuz I'm still annoyed that the Tier 9 warrior set is named after Varian Fucking Wrynn instead of Lothar. Hell, I'd be happier with Bronzebeard gear than Wrynn. They're about as active in the lore and theirs doesn't mostly consist of them being douche bags.

Dazed · « **Reply #1413 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 21:26 »

It's ok. My warlock gear looks like mage gear and is named after a mage.

And it sucks ass.

Alex C · « **Reply #1414 on:** 21 Aug 2009, 22:09 »

Well, my main is actually a rogue, so I'm actually stuck with VanCleef's corset, not Wrynn's gear. But even so, the Lothar snubbing annoys me worse than any questionable fashion choices.

Alex C · « **Reply #1415 on:** 22 Aug 2009, 08:38 »

More evidence as to why I hate Armor Penetration: According to my most recent number crunching, I'll hit just enough Armor Penetration that suddenly it becomes far, far more effective than raw agility for me... but only if I re-gem everything with the highest grade shinies, which will be prohibitively expensive, particularly since I'll need to burn some more JC tokens. I'll probably have this li'l project completed by tomorrow since I'm a hopeless obsessive, but oh, will my gold supply be hurtin'.

clockworkjames · « **Reply #1416 on:** 22 Aug 2009, 13:51 »

http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/video/stream-wow.xml Anyone following this? I am enjoying teh arena coverage tbh.

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #1417 on:** 23 Aug 2009, 23:50 »

Well how bout that, the leak was real. Goblins, bout time, and Worgen, interesting twist.

Also fuck I restarted my subscription.

clockworkjames · « **Reply #1418 on:** 24 Aug 2009, 08:09 »

Deleted my shaman and I am holding off rolling a druid until the expansion. FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.

As for the item changes, all my theory crafting and understanding is for nothing now huh...

axerton · « **Reply #1419 on:** 24 Aug 2009, 09:31 »

just remember that there probably still a year until the expansion actually hits, so probably not nothing.

but damn it I wanted a draenei druid

0bsessions · « **Reply #1420 on:** 24 Aug 2009, 10:47 »

There's too many space goats in game already, no need to give them Druids too.

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #1421 on:** 24 Aug 2009, 12:08 »

Man, maybe its just because I haven't played for a while, but playing a Paladin is a little more fun than it used to be.

Lines · « **Reply #1422 on:** 24 Aug 2009, 21:06 »

I still don't get how worgen can be druids, since technically they are human, but way better them than draenei. And will I make a worgen something? Oh yes I will. I've been waiting for a more fun looking alliance race. Also their starting area looks awesome.

Skelley · « **Reply #1423 on:** 24 Aug 2009, 21:38 »

Well, if you think about it, being able to transform into some kind of feral beast probably makes them a little closer to nature than normal, not worgen humans.

I will make a worgen rogue, however, and specialize only in first weapons. Worgarine.

We've still got a week before that joke starts getting old.

20 jazz funk greats · « **Reply #1424 on:** 24 Aug 2009, 21:48 »

i am so excited about worgen.

Aurjay · « **Reply #1425 on:** 24 Aug 2009, 22:07 »

looks great and cant wait to get my hands on a worgen.

est · « **Reply #1426 on:** 24 Aug 2009, 23:42 »

does ChristopherWorgen fit?

JD · « **Reply #1427 on:** 24 Aug 2009, 23:51 »

Or YourMomsAGoblin?

Yayniall · « **Reply #1428 on:** 25 Aug 2009, 07:54 »

GoblinDick?

clockworkjames · « **Reply #1429 on:** 25 Aug 2009, 11:20 »

Anyone else think worgen backwards is a bit risqué?

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #1430 on:** 25 Aug 2009, 14:57 »

Quote from: Skelley on 24 Aug 2009, 21:38

Well, if you think about it, being able to transform into some kind of feral beast probably makes them a little closer to nature than normal, not worgen humans.

From what I can tell, I don't think they'll be switching back between human and Worgen form, looks like they'll have some sort of ability tied to the moon or some jazz that maybe will make them stronger/more bestial than they already are or something, but I think the change is a permanent curse.

Also, looks like they're going to be stressing the ancient alliance with the night elves and Gilneas, so if they're getting druid as a class it'll probably be because the night elves will be helping them to handle their more primal nature.

0bsessions · « **Reply #1431 on:** 25 Aug 2009, 20:35 »

The former is false. The Worgen will have both a human and worgen form. They can switch at will out of combat, but in combat, it's worgen only.

The latter, though, is right on target. Judging by trailers and blue posts, it's being heavily implied that the Night Elves are the ones bringing the Worgen into the Alliance, teaching them Druidism.

Lines · « **Reply #1432 on:** 26 Aug 2009, 13:34 »

Oh, sweet. Hmm. I may just have to change races... >.>

Gemmwah · « **Reply #1433 on:** 27 Aug 2009, 03:08 »

Oh my god. I need to get my new rig so I can get playing again, and then be ready to roll a couple new alts when this pops out. So excited. I think i peed.

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #1434 on:** 27 Aug 2009, 11:43 »

Jens, what did you roll on darkspear? Horde or Alliance? I'll pop on whichever side it is, especially if its horde since I don't really have any leveled horde anyway.

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #1435 on:** 27 Aug 2009, 13:03 »

There are few people as casual as me actually. My highest character is level 58, and I've been registered off and on since WoW came out. I don't even know if I'd be able to catch up to you, knowing my pace and the fact that the schoolyear is coming up. Could always try though. Registered under the name Felundyr. ~~Orc Hunter.~~

Strike that, Tauren Hunter Kalh.

Lines · « **Reply #1436 on:** 27 Aug 2009, 14:03 »

Talking about casual, my main finally hit 80! And now I have no idea what to do because very few of my friends play anymore and I have pretty much no guild, which means no raiding. So uh. Yeah. I guess I could continue questing and stuff and try to get my epic flight form, since I can't seem to ever make enough money for that.

Maybe I'll play with you guys on Darkspear.

Alex C · « **Reply #1437 on:** 27 Aug 2009, 14:37 »

I'd tell you guys to come to Grizzly Hills but that'd be a terrible idea because my server is so awful. It's packed mostly with newbs due to being a Wrath baby, but that's not really the problem. The real problem is that our backwater status meant that we had a lot of crappy raiding guilds transfer here because they had burned too many bridges back home and because they were the sort of people who really, really care about getting server firsts. These people also seem to really resent having to recruit from non-veterans. Which, you know, is something they really should have fuckin' thought of before they moved to a server that's less than a year old and didn't allow any transfers for the first 3 months of its existence. So far, we haven't had any last a month without collapsing and bombing trade chat with idiotic drama. Thankfully my guild has remained stable and since has been trucking along nicely, but man, I would not want to be a freelancer on this server.

Oh, and most pugs have 2-3 dks in them, minimum. The other two spots are paladins. So, hey, that's a plus if you're a clothie, I guess.

kemon · « **Reply #1438 on:** 27 Aug 2009, 15:11 »

so is there not a qc guild somewhere? maybe someone should start one so i can mess around on a low level character until cataclysm hits.

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #1439 on:** 27 Aug 2009, 16:39 »

We had one for a bit, and then people like me dropped off of WoW again, and others didn't feel justified in leveling an alt on a server for a guild that no one was playing in.

Lines · « **Reply #1440 on:** 27 Aug 2009, 19:04 »

Yes, but I think you can play on both? Like, there's an option for which set of servers to choose from before you choose an actual server, US or Oceanic (I think).

I'm going to try now...

0bsessions · « **Reply #1441 on:** 27 Aug 2009, 19:12 »

For my fellow Hordies, The Forgotten Coast is a great Horde server and I'd be willing to lend a hand to any of you who pop up on here. I've got a level 80 Druid, a level 58 DK and a level 32 Hunter.

Lines · « **Reply #1442 on:** 27 Aug 2009, 19:16 »

Nope, Jens, no luck.

It says your character can't be found.

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #1443 on:** 27 Aug 2009, 20:22 »

Damnit, my Tauren is already level 8... and it sucks ass leveling in early Mulgore...

Gemmwah · « **Reply #1444 on:** 28 Aug 2009, 03:07 »

Quote from: Jeans on 27 Aug 2009, 08:52

Hey Gemm, let's hit Darkspear! I am on there most days of the week (still levelling my priest), and Khar is too though I haven't seen him in, like, fuckin months. I need companyyyy

I'll roll an alt on there once I get playing again. None of my friends play on Twilight's Hammer any more, which is a bummer 'cause I really like that server.

Alex C · « **Reply #1445 on:** 28 Aug 2009, 07:03 »

This thread makes me wish I could send bind on account items to different servers.

0bsessions · « **Reply #1446 on:** 28 Aug 2009, 10:08 »

Quote from: Boro_Bandito on 27 Aug 2009, 20:22

Damnit, my Tauren is already level 8... and it sucks ass leveling in early Mulgore...

What's his name?

clockworkjames · « **Reply #1447 on:** 28 Aug 2009, 11:08 »

lv 8? Must have take a whole evening!

Reroll on a friends server, will be well worth it.

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #1448 on:** 28 Aug 2009, 15:04 »

Ha ha, funny. staring at a screen leveling a low level character is boring as hell and strains your eyes for the first two hours, and I'm a whiny bitch. Anyway, doesn't matter, Tauren gone, hunter on The Forgotten Coast, Orc named Felundyr, will go BM with.

Chesire Cat · « **Reply #1449 on:** 28 Aug 2009, 16:40 »

Sooo just logged into my Shaman after being in the bush for 2 mos cherry picking. And I must say, this Totem Bar is rad! I just got beefcake!

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