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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3750 on: 11 Apr 2009, 12:48 »

Differed stages of (pant) sag


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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3751 on: 11 Apr 2009, 12:50 »

I just don't like to wear the pants up past my stomach, plus my boxers are a little raised.

I'm not ask for etiquette advice, I'm asking about the jeans themselves.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3752 on: 11 Apr 2009, 12:58 »

Grey goes with everything.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3753 on: 11 Apr 2009, 13:36 »

I just don't like to wear the pants up past my stomach, plus my boxers are a little raised.

I'm not ask for etiquette advice, I'm asking about the jeans themselves.

It is a fashion advice thread, you asked about your jeans, and they do not look good like that.

Nothing to do with etiquette, everything to do with steez.
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« Reply #3754 on: 11 Apr 2009, 15:12 »

Are slim fit grey jeans ever ok?


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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3755 on: 12 Apr 2009, 04:05 »

Is that grey though? Cause if it is I'm giving up on colors.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3756 on: 12 Apr 2009, 07:21 »

Ok, I went looking around at stores yesterday for dresses and I found 3 in the first one that fit nicely. I forgot my camera, so I took these with my phone, so they are way off color-wise, but you can see the cuts and that's what's important. (I also didn't buy them, I'm going back Monday to see if there's a sale because of the holiday or not.)







I am not too sure about the 1st one, but I do like the second two. It's a great cut, but it shows a bit of cleavage and I'm not sure if I should get that one for work, but they had one similar in a dark aqua that came up a bit higher. So, should I stay with solid colors? Is a pattern ok? Which waist height looks the best? Are all three terrible and should I stick to pants for ever and ever? Thoughts!

But I did get something out of my trip, which were flats that are similar to these, but suede-ish and comfortable as hell.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3757 on: 12 Apr 2009, 08:29 »

i really love the first one the best! number 3 is nice too but 2 seems to be a pretty boring and unflattering colour and also excessively ruffly. 1 is also probably the most versatile regarding what kind of shoes + accessories you could wear with it.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3758 on: 12 Apr 2009, 08:31 »

Linds the first one is fantastic! Get it get it get it!
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3759 on: 12 Apr 2009, 08:38 »

I definitely agree with what's said before me. Number 1 is amazing, and I also really like #3, but I'm a skeptic about #2.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3760 on: 12 Apr 2009, 08:55 »

I like the first and third the best too, though the third really really needs accessories to make it interesting. I think the length of the second cuts off your legs at a strange point, and the sleeves would be cuter with just a flat strap instead of the little mini sleeve
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3761 on: 12 Apr 2009, 09:44 »

Thanks guys! And yeah, now that I think about it, #2 does have a lot of ruffles. I'm going back Monday to buy some, so I think I'll go with the first one and one of the ones I didn't take a picture of. (I grabbed the wrong size and was too lazy to go back and hunt for the right size, as I was just checking stuff out.)
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3762 on: 13 Apr 2009, 09:54 »

I think #1 looks gerat on you, Linds! Did you just want to buy a nice dress (I looove summer dresses!), or were you buying something for a special occasion?

So I have been wondering a bit about fashion lately... When did it happen that certain labels of clothing are always connotated with a certain peer group and that when you buy and wear certain clothes, you automatically make a statement about what social sphere you are from or pretend to be from, about your income and whatever social group you see yourself in? I asked my Mum, she is in her late fifties, and she told me that when she was my age (i.e. in her early twenties), there was already the same thing going on. There were "cool" labels and "uncool" ones. can any of the older and wiser forumites enlighten me on this? Was there ever a time when a shirt was just a shirt, no matter who made it?

Also, how do you people play the fashion game? I don't like it when there are really big and ostentatious labels on my clothes, I mean I'm not an advertisement board. Does anyone see what would be fun about that? I just spend a day shopping in an affluent North Italian city, and I picked items because I liked how they looked on me, but I really have now idea at all what sort of statement I'm making with them. I usually am really lazy about fashion - I buy things that I like and that I find stylish and that I expect to have a long lifespan every once in a while and then wear them pretty much every day, except for when I wash them. I always wished I could go to school in a country where they had school uniforms. So, question: Are uniforms really, I don't know, "anonymous"? Is a white shirt just a white shirt in a school uniform or does it matter again, in the social hierarchy and the "cool game" that a lot of people play, what label you are wearing? And how do you integrate labels into your personal style?

I am also wondering about the prices of things. I don't think that 500 Pounds for a handbag by say, Prada, is a realistic price judged on what the company spends on the costs of production and material. You obviously pay for buying an item with a certain name on it. Where I go to Uni (in the UK), all the students go shopping at Primark all the time. You can buy a complete outfit for 5 Pounds or less there. That obviously isn't a realistic price either. I don't think that if a T-Shirt costs 1 Pound or less the people at the bottom of the chain who do the sewing etc. can be paid a fair wage. If people are nice enough to sew clothes for me, I want them to be paid decently! (I also don't buy things in that sort of shop because I saw a TV documentary about how people who work in these places get really ill from all the chemicals in the clothes.) So what option does that leave me with, other than making all my clothes myself? Where can you even shop anymore these days and not feel terribly guilty about the working conditions? All the places I know that sell clothes which are produced ecologically and politically correct are reallyreally expensive and/or the clothes look like sacks.

I'm really interested in what people have to say on that. Sorry for the essay, I'll stop procrastinating now and get things done!
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3763 on: 13 Apr 2009, 10:13 »

I'm buying some just because I like summer dresses.

I don't really get the brand name thing other than when it comes to brands I've been happy with and are generally reliable. (This almost always only replies to pants and shoes.) But I do have a "D&G" purse, which I bought because 1. I needed a purse and 2. it's aqua and kind of cute. People ask all the time if it's real, to which I say, "Hell no!" and then get asked why I got it. "Because I needed a purse?" I mean, it's a bag that holds things. Also useful for keeping rocks in. I mean, it's a bag, who cares.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3764 on: 13 Apr 2009, 10:17 »

When did it happen that certain labels of clothing are always connotated with a certain peer group and that when you buy and wear certain clothes, you automatically make a statement about what social sphere you are from or pretend to be from, about your income and whatever social group you see yourself in?

Think about it anthropologically. Clothing has probably been used as a signifier of meaning from the time we evolved to capacity to recognize that kind of thing. In other words, we probably started using clothes to indicate our belonging to social groups once those groups started existing.

The other two questions are worthwhile too. I think you may eventually want to step back even further and look at the effects of capitalism in general. Maybe I will link things for you later!
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3765 on: 13 Apr 2009, 12:09 »

Think about it anthropologically. Clothing has probably been used as a signifier of meaning from the time we evolved to capacity to recognize that kind of thing. In other words, we probably started using clothes to indicate our belonging to social groups once those groups started existing.

Yeah, I realize that part. Like, if you look at tribal societies, then there are different items of clothing and accessories for the different sexes, different age groups, married and unmarried people and so on. Also different outfits for different positions in the pecking line. Some of that even exists in nature i.e. with animals, I believe - like a boy-deer has antlers and a girl-deer doesn't have them or has smaller ones. (I'm not that good with animal names, sorry.) And since boy-deers fight, the one who is the best at fighting and survives and who grows to be the oldest one has the biggest antlers.

I'll try and explain what I meant: When I was little, a T-Shirt was only ever a T-Shirt for me. Maybe I liked one better than the other because it was red and not blue or because it had a picture of a doggy on it or whatever. But that was it. Now I believe in the theory that the development one single human being goes through is at least in parts equivalent to the evolution of mankind.

(I'm not so sure about the biological parts because I'm not a biologist, but what I've heard is that until a certain stage, you cannot tell a human foetus from a monkey foetus. Similarly, a baby human and a baby monkey have about the same skills (roughly speaking). But this also extends to the intellectual realm - like arts: A younger child draws similar to these drawings in the cave, while an older child discovers perspective, like artists discovered the principle of perspective later on. The same applies to oral tradition or literature and lots of other things.)
 
So I believe it happens not only for the single individual but also for society as a whole that a shirt is not just a shirt anymore. I believe that in a tribal society, all clothes are made with the same diligence and from the same materials. I could be wrong, but that's the premise I'm assuming. This is obviously not the case anymore. I'm assuming it happened rather early that different materials were used for different receivers, like silk for richer people and cotton for the poorer ones or whatever. Is that the beginning of what is happening today? However, I believe that today we're more able to choose between different labels and belonging to different social groups. What I don't know is when it seems that societies become more democratic and people become "more equal" in terms of possibilities, at least in the Western world, why different social groups are that big a deal anymore.
 
Anyhoo, these days a shirt is not just a shirt anymore. It suddenly matters if you bought it at H&M or at, I don't know, Prada. Why does this matter? Is it all about showing how much money you are able and willing to spend on a shirt? More expensive is maybe seen as "better" by the mainstream, but there are also subversive movements whose members dress really cheap to make a point. And I'm wondering when people lost that "innocence" (can't think of a better word). Was a chieftain of a group Neanderthals really considered to be "better" than his tribe-mates? I have the impression that in today's society wealth seems to be associated with superiority. If I remember my history class right, wasn't that the idea of the Calvinists that God rewards those who are hard-working? And being favoured by God is obviously a sign of superiority.

So is it all rooted in capitalism? Also, what exactly do you mean by that term and when would you say it started, ruyi?

(Sorry, I don't know if I'm making much sense anymore.)
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3766 on: 13 Apr 2009, 12:27 »

Even in tribal societies, chieftains probably tended to have nicer clothes and it is a certain thing that certain types of dyes and cloth indicated high standings millennia before capitalism as a defined philosophy was even dreamt of. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrian_purple
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3767 on: 13 Apr 2009, 12:44 »

Yeah, capitalism is a poor thing to bring up considering that caste and class has been a major part of human society since at least the beginning of recorded history. Capitalism and the wide availability of commodities has just made our dress codes a pinch more subtle since materials matter a bit less these days than branding. We've done nothing more than exchange funny hats made from hard to acquire animals for Dolce and Gabanna.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3768 on: 13 Apr 2009, 13:00 »

Er, I brought up capitalism re: her second two questions, which were about branding and prices.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3769 on: 13 Apr 2009, 13:06 »

I both worded that badly and didn't read your post. I meant that in response to Krina's rooted-in-capitalism question.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3770 on: 13 Apr 2009, 16:02 »

What do you guys think of this shirt?



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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3771 on: 13 Apr 2009, 16:05 »



As a shirt or as a table cloth?
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3772 on: 13 Apr 2009, 16:07 »

It reminds me of pizza.  I like it.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3773 on: 13 Apr 2009, 16:10 »

Yeah the general consensus was "picnic blanket" though I'd like to think of it more as a "French bistro tablecloth"

Fuck it's such a great shirt though.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3774 on: 13 Apr 2009, 16:16 »

had you not specifically asked "what do you think of this shirt" i probably wouldn't have noticed anything peculiar about either of those photos. i could see it maybe being funny looking on someone else, but it works on you.
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« Reply #3775 on: 13 Apr 2009, 16:32 »

Yeah, the top one or two buttons unbuttoned like in the first photo make it look pretty good.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3776 on: 13 Apr 2009, 16:37 »

Aghhhhhhh! The tablecloth/t-shirt dichtiotomy spreads.

My friend has one of those as well, and he looks like the skinniset lumberjack in history, but I don't think it looks half bad on you dude.

Also Miss Linds, get the first dress if you are looking for a boyfriend, because its kind of sweet and awesome combined, like a picnic where you bring a lot of alcohol.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3777 on: 13 Apr 2009, 17:36 »

I have to wait for dress #1 to go on sale, because it's more pricey than I realized! (I failed to look at tags when I went.) But since I did go back, I tried on many a dress and got a kick out of this one:



It too was too expensive to get and paired with the shoes I got in Boston, I think I'd make people go blind.
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« Reply #3778 on: 13 Apr 2009, 18:07 »

That is good.

I like that.

Spend money.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3779 on: 13 Apr 2009, 18:09 »

There's just something I don't like about it.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3780 on: 13 Apr 2009, 18:14 »

Yay constructive criticism!


Also Linds, you're talking about those black and white shoes you posted a while ago? Yeah, those with that dress would be so amazing.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3781 on: 13 Apr 2009, 18:15 »

I can't tell what it is. Maybe I'm not a fan of how the classic black and white combination looks.

Like I'd never wear something blatantly white with a black pair of jeans. I'm not even sure if I own a pair of those, but you get the idea. Don't listen to me.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3782 on: 13 Apr 2009, 18:17 »

I am serious, I love your silhouette in that thing.

It is so foxy.

Wear more like it.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3783 on: 13 Apr 2009, 18:24 »

Avec, embrace the black and white. Seriously.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3784 on: 13 Apr 2009, 18:32 »

I'm going to post a picture of me wearing black and white. It's going to be a fucking massacre.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3785 on: 13 Apr 2009, 20:39 »

So it was warm enough to wear shorts this past week:



I know, I know, people should not wear shorts, especially me. But boy, do I love my shorts. They are so damn comfy. If anyone wants further horror, I can get one eventually of the whole "look".
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3786 on: 13 Apr 2009, 20:44 »

Man people should wear shorts all they want, shorts are awesome
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3787 on: 13 Apr 2009, 22:06 »

People should always wear shorts, shorts are so great

It is the things on your feet that deign to call themselves sandals that should never see the light of day.
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« Reply #3788 on: 14 Apr 2009, 00:14 »

Uh, ok. I'll keep that in mind, should I venture into the light of day.
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« Reply #3789 on: 14 Apr 2009, 06:33 »

Shorts and sandals is fine:



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« Reply #3791 on: 14 Apr 2009, 10:46 »

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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3792 on: 14 Apr 2009, 11:24 »

It is the things on your feet that deign to call themselves sandals that should never see the light of day.

I was going to speak out against those but I bit my tongue for the sake of politeness to the point of tasting blood. HOWEVER. I have been drinking a bit so I'm going to strike the happy medium of throwing my utmost support behind Clara's sentiment but avoid directly referring to the ugly as sin items in question.

Paul they are kinda ok for you because you are a) a dude and b) a tourist in that picture but I am sure there are better options out there.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3793 on: 14 Apr 2009, 11:45 »

Shorts and sandals is fine


Also, sports sandals are not really a fashion thing? They are functional as hell and you don't want to go out into anything but streets wearing non-sports sandals. And I know if there's anyone else out there like me they avoid wearing closed footed things in the summer.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3794 on: 14 Apr 2009, 11:52 »

It is ok to wear shorts and Sandals if you toasted the falling of the Berlin Wall, or personally fought Communism.

(fear of shorts here)
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« Reply #3795 on: 14 Apr 2009, 11:52 »

And I know if there's anyone else out there like me they avoid wearing closed footed things in the summer.

I'm with you... mostly because I hate doing laundry and finding socks that match is a lost cause for me.  Sandals win, in my book.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3796 on: 14 Apr 2009, 11:55 »

Teva sandals make me think of splashing in creeks and goofy biology teachers. So they are maybe not high fashion, but they are totally fine in my book.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3797 on: 14 Apr 2009, 13:43 »

Then again, I also like to wear these awful denim shorts, so I am maybe not the best judge.


I honestly think these look kind of cute:/
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3798 on: 14 Apr 2009, 14:04 »

You are right, you are so absolutely right. But to pull off short shorts you gotta have good legs.
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Re: Let's have a fashion advice thread.
« Reply #3799 on: 14 Apr 2009, 14:05 »

That photo is a case study in how cute people are generally bad judges of these things in general. There's a bunch of things going on with that outfit that could become a complete trainwreck if you were heavier/shaped differently. Luckily, you are Manda, but I still don't really think it's a great outfit in general despite the fact that you are adorable.

Anyway though, I don't really care too much about sandals. I don't like them and would never wear them, but as Drill King said, they are casual wear and I don't get all huffy when I seem them. They're not horrible, I just doubt I'll ever see someone wearing shorts and sandals and think they look sharp.
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