Topic: Let's have a fashion advice thread. (Read 974364 times)

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #2150 on:** 16 Dec 2008, 23:15 »

No man, see, she keeps the wig until she makes the briefcase trade-off, after which she hops in an elevator, takes off the wig and steps out with her real identity. Duh.

jhocking · « **Reply #2151 on:** 17 Dec 2008, 04:41 »

Quote from: tania on 16 Dec 2008, 20:33

i do not know anything about fashion so i hope this was an okay decision to make. i also hope it makes me look older than 12 for once.

huh, in that photo you look like a young Liza Minelli. I think it is due to the close cropped hair and general classiness of the coat.

negative creep · « **Reply #2152 on:** 17 Dec 2008, 10:42 »

The thing is that I don't really know anything about the location yet. I am going to buy a book in the bookshop where she works. I might ask her out for coffee after her shift is over. Perhaps she will ask me out for coffee after her shift is over, I don't know that yet! I just want to be prepared, plus, if I don't get to do more than buy that book, noone would notice what I was wearing anyway.

Suits are something that I wear on a regular basis without any special reasons. I like feeling over dressed. Also i complained about feeling very under dressed the first time we met.

Tania, your coat is extremely nice!

pwhodges · « **Reply #2153 on:** 17 Dec 2008, 10:47 »

Wearing what you are (psychologically) comfortable in is more important than what it is. More or less anything can be pulled off so long as a degree of confidence is there.

redglasscurls · « **Reply #2154 on:** 17 Dec 2008, 12:51 »

Dom, wear a suit without the jacket but with the vest. HOT

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #2155 on:** 17 Dec 2008, 17:45 »

Guys I'm going to a very religious cousin's wedding and I want to do something that'll make at least half of the people there uncomfortable. Should I go with my black suit/black shirt and this awesome new tie? Sadly I need a new black shirt as that one is beginning to fade/neck is getting small by about half an inch. Damn my enormous and thick neck. (I pity the first person who misreads that). Maybe I'll go post something in the I want to feel healthier thread...

Okay, so I'm not really asking for advice because I already know I want to do this but I really wanted to show off the fact that I just learned how to tie a tie.

Katherine · « **Reply #2156 on:** 17 Dec 2008, 18:42 »

Quote from: Boro_Bandito on 17 Dec 2008, 17:45

Sadly I need a new black shirt as that one is beginning to fade/neck is getting small by about half an inch. Damn my enormous and thick neck. (I pity the first person who misreads that).

I misread that, but I read it as "Damn my enormous and thin neck." and was just a wee bit confused. I like that tie with your coloring, and you tied it nicely.

fatty · « **Reply #2157 on:** 17 Dec 2008, 21:22 »

You're not really meant to wear black at a wedding.

Eris · « **Reply #2158 on:** 17 Dec 2008, 21:31 »

I think that's the point. He did say "I want to do something that'll make at least half of the people there uncomfortable."

That being said, I like the colour of the tie; at least form the photo it doesn't look overly bright, but still enough to see the colour. I like it!

Jimmy the Squid · « **Reply #2159 on:** 17 Dec 2008, 21:35 »

Looking good, Phil! I approve.

Ballard · « **Reply #2160 on:** 17 Dec 2008, 21:46 »

Good work, Phil!

Inlander · « **Reply #2161 on:** 17 Dec 2008, 22:26 »

Quote from: Boro_Bandito on 17 Dec 2008, 17:45

Guys I'm going to a very religious cousin's wedding and I want to do something that'll make at least half of the people there uncomfortable.

Why would you want to do that? Even if you don't like the people, why would you want to pull a dick move at somebody's wedding? Phil, you seem like an okay guy, so I don't understand why you want to act like a dick on this occasion.

RedLion · « **Reply #2162 on:** 17 Dec 2008, 22:30 »

Jesus, chill out. It's not like he's going to run down the aisle naked and covered in feces as the couple are giving their vows. It's hardly going to ruin the wedding. At the most it will make some people cock their eyebrows disapprovingly.

Inlander · « **Reply #2163 on:** 17 Dec 2008, 22:39 »

My question is why a person would want to make anyone even slightly uncomfortable at somebody's wedding, let alone "half the people". I mean is it so difficult to be considerate of other people's feelings for just a few hours?

Put it another way: I slap you across the face without explanation. Chill out, it's not like I stabbed you!

jodizzle · « **Reply #2164 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 01:37 »

Quote from: fatty on 17 Dec 2008, 21:22

You're not really meant to wear black at a wedding.

That is the dumbest rule. I would like to see someone stop me.

pwhodges · « **Reply #2165 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 02:21 »

Priests wear black shirts to weddings; why shouldn't someone who looks so good in one do the same?

Spluff · « **Reply #2166 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 02:22 »

Quote from: jodizzle on 18 Dec 2008, 01:37

That is the dumbest rule. I would like to see someone stop me.

Well nobodies going to physically stop you, it's not like if you enter wearing black the best man will spear tackle you and forcibly remove all your articles of black clothing, but you will get the scowling of a lifetime.

redglasscurls · « **Reply #2167 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 03:18 »

I thought it was white you weren't supposed to wear to weddings? Suits are black, classy little black dresses are black. I've never heard that ever.

Spluff · « **Reply #2168 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 03:29 »

Traditionally, you are not supposed to wear black to a wedding - it's not really a thing anymore, but very religious people or old fashioned people might take offense to it (especially if you are wearing all black).

jodizzle · « **Reply #2169 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 03:50 »

I guess it is ok because i do not know any people who would take offence to that. And I guess if they were inviting me to their wedding they would know me well enough to know I would turn up in a pretty black dress anyway.

The not wearing white however, makes perfect sense.

fatty · « **Reply #2170 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 06:05 »

Dude what! I never said 'don't wear black'. Traditionally, colours had different meanings at events such as weddings and funerals.

The bride wears white, and maybe the bridesmaids. Ladies don't wear white(bride's colour) or black(funeral colour). Formally at daytime wedding receptions men wear day dress, which is usually grey or navy. Black is only traditionally a evening wear / dinner suit colour. An evening reception for a wedding would normally be formal/black tie, which means men have to wear a black suit, white shirt and black bow tie.

That said, I wore a black cocktail dress to a daytime wedding.

Edit: Bloody hell, I didn't say they were rules. They're 'traditions'. We don't burn witches anymore either!

redglasscurls · « **Reply #2171 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 07:45 »

All these crazy rules are why I'm doing casual wedding on a mountain top and not giving a damn what color guests choose to wear.

Jace · « **Reply #2172 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 07:57 »

At my wedding any two people wearing the same color will have to fight over who gets to wear that color.

Also its gonna be super casual because why not feel comfortable?

Professor Snuggles · « **Reply #2173 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 08:07 »

Hey dudes, I have a problem. I need a new style. The things I've been doing are getting a little too trendy for me, I don't really care about my sneaker collection anymore, the thrill has sort of gone out of hoodies, and I don't really have enough suits to be as gentrified as I want to look. I'm having trouble figuring out how to balance the wardrobe I have with where I want to go with my clothes, and to be honest I'm not even completely sure where I'm going to take this.

The mass culture shift at this point is going incredibly yupster prepster, but there's also a backlash movement against it that is really embracing the kind of outdoorsy heavy red and black flannel jacket, baggy work jeans look that's so prevalent at my school but seems to be catching on elsewhere. Obviously I am way too snobby to do either of those things, but I don't really know where I want to go with it.

Whats new? What's interesting? What's, you know, actually worth doing these days?

Professor Snuggles · « **Reply #2174 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 08:22 »

Jeans, I don't want to know what's hot, that is the point. I know that, and it has chased me down again and I am not happy about it. I want to know interesting ideas that people have that aren't currently being overdone, that aren't gaudy, or tacky, or ostentatious without being refined, or acceptable but not stellar. I am looking, in short, for inspiration

Professor Snuggles · « **Reply #2175 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 08:24 »

Oh god dammit now I can't find my PBJ's. Fuck today, fuck clothes, I'm wearing animal T-shirts and work pants for the rest of my life.

mooface · « **Reply #2176 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 08:27 »

my advice would just be to walk around and window shop and pick out things that you just genuinely really like. that's really the only way to find out your own natural style.

as for what other people are doing, just browse through fashion magazines/blogs (which i'm sure you already do). certain things that other stylish people do that you like will pop out at you and give you inspiration for what you want to wear yourself.

it's kind of impossible to tell you "this is what you will find new and interesting", because only you can figure that out for yourself

Boro_Bandito · « **Reply #2177 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 08:59 »

Quote from: Inlander on 17 Dec 2008, 22:39

My question is why a person would want to make anyone even slightly uncomfortable at somebody's wedding, let alone "half the people". I mean is it so difficult to be considerate of other people's feelings for just a few hours?

Put it another way: I slap you across the face without explanation. Chill out, it's not like I stabbed you!

You don't know how much I hate my relatives except for the one getting married. She'll find it funny, this is one of the better cousins, its her parents and my other aunts and uncles and old people that'll disapprove. To be fair I'm not sure of her soon to be husband's ideas of things, but she picked him so there must be something right about the guy. Interesting how I started such a discussion there for a moment.

ruyi · « **Reply #2178 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 09:23 »

Quote from: Animal Ghosts on 18 Dec 2008, 08:07

Hey dudes, I have a problem. I need a new style. The things I've been doing are getting a little too trendy for me, I don't really care about my sneaker collection anymore, the thrill has sort of gone out of hoodies, and I don't really have enough suits to be as gentrified as I want to look. I'm having trouble figuring out how to balance the wardrobe I have with where I want to go with my clothes, and to be honest I'm not even completely sure where I'm going to take this.

The mass culture shift at this point is going incredibly yupster prepster, but there's also a backlash movement against it that is really embracing the kind of outdoorsy heavy red and black flannel jacket, baggy work jeans look that's so prevalent at my school but seems to be catching on elsewhere. Obviously I am way too snobby to do either of those things, but I don't really know where I want to go with it.

Whats new? What's interesting? What's, you know, actually worth doing these days?

I shouldn't be answering this question. But I'll try to articulate a potential way of approaching clothes anyways. I'm going to say things that are super simple but I hope you will bear with me because it's mostly for my own benefit in trying to understand things.

First, where I'm coming from:
My understanding of fashion is utilizing language to express yourself. It is too simple and banal to characterize fashion as styles arbitrarily determined by a mass hive mind, or to say that people conscious of fashion are desperately trying to copy these styles to make themselves cooler. Clothing is one of many way that we communicate meaning to each other, so it makes sense that common understandings have emerged of what particular clothes represent. And ultimately, just like verbal language and music, there are aspects of fashion that are grounded in reality (ie red, as the color of blood, necessarily invokes certain emotions, parallel to this example in language) in addition to all the context-contingent qualities of it and we as humans do have an innate potential for cultivating a sensibility for it.

Sorry if that was ridiculously worded, I've just spent the past day/night writing papers. Anyways! I just wrote that out because I am not sure if my understanding is correct or not, so if you or someone else can clarify any misconception on my part that would be cool.

So, I guess to draw an analogy with language, maybe there is an option besides speaking language A (e.g. yuppie/preppie) or speaking language B as a reaction (e.g. flannel/baggie jeans). Many people seem to think ignoring fashion completely is the solution, but that's basically like choosing to babble nonsense. That's cool if a person wants to do that, they just shouldn't be surprised at the reactions they get. Maybe you could try being silent instead? For me personally I am conflicted about my recent decision to try and become more fashionable because I find that I'm very used to observing people around me carefully and it's a little bit more difficult to do when I'm dressed in a way that invites the gaze of others.

Since this is recent for me, I'm not confident enough in my understanding of style to articulate specifically what kind of clothes constitute silence. Let me see if I can explain it this way. You know how when you construct an outfit, there are times when you have certain pieces that are the focus, so that your other clothes are necessarily plainer (but still inoffensive)? Maybe your whole outfit could be that kind of inoffensive plain. The way you put together your outfits would demonstrate an awareness of fashion so that you don't break rules, but that's it, it doesn't go beyond that. This approach could also be justified by an anti-consumerism position, but I haven't thought that out too well either.

Alex C · « **Reply #2179 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 09:50 »

That reminds of of a William Gibson book, Pattern Recognition. The protagonist of the book has viscerally negative reactions whenever she encounters trendy items or things that very likely COULD start trends or work as effective advertisements. It's to the point where she saw a psychologist when she was younger because she can't handle being exposed to the Michelin man. Ironically enough, this allows her to be employed as a trend hunter/spotter for advertisement agencies. Her own "style" is marked by an aggressive minimalism that dictates everything she wears could have been worn at any point during the last 50 years without anyone bothering to comment upon her clothes.

Slick · « **Reply #2180 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 11:20 »

Quote from: ruyi on 18 Dec 2008, 09:23

For me personally I am conflicted about my recent decision to try and become more fashionable because I find that I'm very used to observing people around me carefully and it's a little bit more difficult to do when I'm dressed in a way that invites the gaze of others.

This is a change that I've experienced this past year or so, for fashion and other reasons. I like looking good but I most of the time don't want to upset what's around me too much. Like being in a moving body of water and not wanting to disrupt the flow.

Personally I go for the understated or 'silent' more often than not. Nondescript used slacks, simple t-shirts with good artwork and design that doesn't demand attention but still looks nice. I also have a wristband I knit myself (it was going to be a CD case but I accidently made it twice as long as it ought to of been, so I finished it after a few rows) which is a simple brown strip of knitting on my wrist.
I love subtle things and think it is the way to go for style. Semi-minimal is what I like.

P.S. I actually wear a fedora as my winter hat and have a great looking leather coat I got from my dad (he wore it in highschool), but these things can fit in with being simple depending how you wear them. The jacket has a zip-hoodie beneath to make it warm so it looks good but not like it's being worn just for fashion, and the fedora is just a wool fedora, somewhere between green and brown in colour. No strips, no fancy business, it's just a hat that looks good without making me look like I'm trying to be cool and keeps the top of my bald head warm.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2181 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 13:07 »

For an example of that silent look, look at Tom Cruise's character in the movie Collateral. If the camera wasn't focused on him all the time, would you give him a second glance? Of course, some places wearing a suit could attract attention, but you get the idea.

Alex, funny you mentioned that. I read most of the way through that book, I need to find where I put it, so I can finish it after ATP. Cayce's CPUs are a rather interesting idea.

Usually (when it isn't below freezing), I wear a camo jacket, cargo pants, and combat boots. I like the effect the baggy clothes have of making me look wider than I am, but I have been wanting to get something for when I need to look fancier. What does this thread think of black slacks, black trench coat, black belt, and dark red or reddish-brown shirt? I have reddish brown hair (and no camera, maybe I can get my camera phone working) and I would be either wearing a black flat cap(less likely), black fedora (most likely), or have my hair in a ponytail (least likely). Not sure what kind of shoes to get with that, I'm thinking something like the Doc Martens 1561 4 eye shoes (their website doesn't have separate pages that I can find, so no pictures), but I would want black rubber on the soles, rather than brownish-gold.

KvP · « **Reply #2182 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 20:04 »

I got 2 of these, on advice from Emilijoe - http://www.ecstar.net/shop/productdetail.cfm?ID=875

I wanted the black shirt w/ pink band so, so bad, but they didn't have any.

Ballard · « **Reply #2183 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 20:07 »

Ten dollars? What gives?

KvP · « **Reply #2184 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 20:12 »

That site is liquidating their Men's section, which is a damn shame. That shirt is the only item they have in my size. Most everything there is only S or XS.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2185 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 20:38 »

Man... I would look like Adam Baldwin in a small shirt, and I'm skinny as a freak. Maybe that is why they are liquidating everything, they weren't getting enough sales because they stocked the wrong sizes.

Ballard · « **Reply #2186 on:** 18 Dec 2008, 20:56 »

Man I wish I was 50 lb lighter and $100 richer so hard right now.

ampersandwitch · « **Reply #2187 on:** 19 Dec 2008, 07:24 »

Man I thought when people were making fun of the keffiyeh and saying 'Hey that would be like if ARMBANDS came back in style' that it was reductio ad absurdium.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2188 on:** 19 Dec 2008, 08:06 »

I don't think it is an armband, though. I think it's part of the shirt.

ampersandwitch · « **Reply #2189 on:** 19 Dec 2008, 08:58 »

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97% COTTON, 3% LYCRA BLEND. BUTTON-UP LONG SLEEVE SHIRT WITH CONTRAST ARM BAND.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2190 on:** 19 Dec 2008, 09:02 »

Ah, I thought they meant it was built into the shirt, I have never heard of selling a shirt with an accessory (though I don't really shop fancy fashion much, as one can tell).

E. Spaceman · « **Reply #2191 on:** 19 Dec 2008, 09:05 »

Quote from: Nodaisho on 18 Dec 2008, 20:38

Man... I would look like Adam Baldwin in a small shirt, and I'm skinny as a freak. Maybe that is why they are liquidating everything, they weren't getting enough sales because they stocked the wrong sizes.

Nah, what you are seing is just what is left. They used to have many many more items in all sizes. All with really good craftsmanship too.

Nodaisho · « **Reply #2192 on:** 19 Dec 2008, 09:09 »

That sucks. Oh well. I'm not likely to be getting anything too soon, I'm just planning for what I'll do when I do need a formal-ish set of clothes. What kind of tie would go well with the black and dark red (according to Wikipedia, the color I am trying to describe is burgundy)?

redglasscurls · « **Reply #2193 on:** 19 Dec 2008, 09:20 »

Man, all their women's stuff that's rad is still 50 bucks, and all the stuff that's ugly as sin is 5-10 bucks

RedLion · « **Reply #2194 on:** 19 Dec 2008, 11:39 »

What is with the armbands being sold with and displayed on those shirts? They ruin them.

sean · « **Reply #2195 on:** 19 Dec 2008, 12:02 »

Hey guys.

I'm getting into cool button down shirts but are not fancy and have slim fits. Like, the short sleve ones on the site John posted. Where can I get things like this? (because I know nothing)

Rudy Rudy · « **Reply #2196 on:** 19 Dec 2008, 14:37 »

For good cold weather stuff, the first place I always look is the Salvation Army, Goodwill, DAV, or another secondhand store. People tend to donate those things a lot because the trends change every year. Some of the warmest coats I own were $8 at SA.

negative creep · « **Reply #2197 on:** 19 Dec 2008, 20:14 »

Thanks for your advice! I wore a suit. It didn't matter anyway.

ampersandwitch · « **Reply #2198 on:** 19 Dec 2008, 20:17 »

Because you all wound up naked anyway?

negative creep · « **Reply #2199 on:** 19 Dec 2008, 20:39 »

No, it just was kind of pointless. I didn't even take off my coat, so meh. And the rest of the story probably belongs in the blog thread.

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