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[Inlander]

Bourbon . . . bourbon . . .

Hmm. Sounds a bit like boobin'. Word gets thumbs up!

[Slick]

Hey Harry, how's it going?

I remember a while ago expressing my disdain for the beer store in Ontario (beer selling monopoly besides the Liquor Board stores) and how you could get fancy Quebec beer (Éphémère (not tania)) that I could not.
I have since tried that beer and decided, while tasty, it was not that great as I had hoped.

[Slick]

Very strongly Granny Smith, while still maintaining well it's distinction from cider.

[Inlander]

Yeah, I never actually tried the ephemere. Fruit beers aren't really my thing.

The other Unibroues are nice, though.

[Slick]

So I think we've talked Bourbon, Scotch, Irish whiskey very briefly, rum, vodka, ales, jager, gin (taking time to make fun of those two), and now quebec trapist microbrews.

I guess I just need to drop reference to a snooty hip gin like Hendricks and maybe someone should say how they only like Corona but it has to have lime in it and then I think we're done here?

Good job, team.

[Vendetagainst]

Nobody's mentioned sake though, which is delicious.

[Slick]

The other Unibroues

Do you have a favorite?
I think Maudite might be mine but I'm still very partial to Fin du Monde because a) it was my first of theirs b) my home province is on the bottle (and claimed by quebec nationalists) and c) it is to play an integral part of my end-of-the-world house-warming party when they collide shit in the LHC in September.

[Hairy Joe Bob]

Fuckin' team.

[Hairy Joe Bob]

Fuckin' sake.

[fatty]

No one has mentioned sangria. Or wine at all, for that matter. What a disgrace.

[Slick]

Nobody's mentioned sake though, which is delicious.

Maybe it is a demographic thing with the university I am at, but the only people I know who like sake are the japanophiles in the anime clubs.

(by japanophile I mean people really into Japanese culture and not necessarily those who are hot for the Japanese)

[Slick]

Sangria is a summer thing that I have never had right once since that time I visited Spain years ago.
Wine is too much to discuss, and inevitably boils down to 'I like red' or 'I like white'.
I like red. South American red.

[Slick]

which is, incidentally, what I wanted a bottle of instead of bourbon tonight.

[Vendetagainst]

I am definitely not a japanophile, though japanese girls are pretty durn hot. I am a sushiphile though, that may be it.

Nobody's mentioned jenkem yet either, shame!

[ViolentDove]

My housemate brought home this bottle of spanish brandy the other night, and I was all "Brandy is for old women, dude" but then I tried it, and it was pretty damn tasty. Insuperable was the name of it. I think people who appreciate nice bourbon or whiskey should give it a try.

[Inlander]

Do you have a favorite?

No, I haven't drunk them enough to have a favourite.

Recently I've been all about malt ales.

[Slick]

Nobody's mentioned jenkem yet either, shame!

Man this is a thread about bourbon, not about that nonsense. I mean that doesn't even need to be mentioned.

My housemate brought home this bottle of spanish brandy the other night, and I was all "Brandy is for old women, dude" but then I tried it, and it was pretty damn tasty. Insuperable was the name of it. I think people who appreciate nice bourbon or whiskey should give it a try.

Brandy is pretty good. Fairly tasty, useful for flambeeing things.

The last malty beer I had was 'The Devil's Pale Ale' or something like that, made by an Ontario brewer. I opened it and it was neither pale nor much like a pale ale. That was a devilish move on their part.
I approved.

[ViolentDove]

Oh yeah, for the Australians- James Squire has a "limited edition" ale out, called Pepperberry Winter Ale. It's actually pretty damn good.

[Vendetagainst]

you should try (real) margaritas, then, and get them on the rocks. They're not like what Americans (probably other countries, though I'm not sure how popular they are elsewhere) call margaritas, the sour flavor conceals the alcohol very nicely.

[est]

I didn't actually mention anything about what I like in here, because I was trying to keep on-topic (or on-bourbon, if you prefer).  But if everyone else is gonna gyrate wildly to inexplicable voodoo rhythms I guess I'll say that I love the hell out of some Belvedere vodka.

[Slick]

Initially I wanted a thread where bourbon would be discussed gradually and slowly as people tried more of it/felt like saying more.
Than I kind of dicked it to shit.

[Slick]

mixed drinks

yeah that killed my boner buzz bone

[Slick]

Thanks for trying to stay on-topic est.

[Vendetagainst]

@Roxie

that sand must be awful the morning after, though.

To keep this on topic, though, is Jack and Coke considered tasteless or is it ok that I like it?

[KharBevNor]

Man, I hate this 'no one has mentioned' thing.

Absinthe, Aquavit, Becherovka, Brandy, Brennivin, Calvados, Clairin, Cognac, Goldschlager, Grappa, Kvass, Mead, Mezcal, Ouzo, Perry, Pisco, Poteen, Raki, Sambuca, Schnapps, Sherry, Slivovitz, Tequila, Zivania

Right, now let's continue with the thread.



FICKEN SIE DEN AMERIKANICHERWHISKEY

[Liz]

James, with every post you make in this thread I am finding it harder to believe that you have not been drinking a lot tonight.

[StaedlerMars]

I recommend bison grass vodka.

it tastes like apple pie if apple pie had alcohol in it.

[Hairy Joe Bob]

Only if you put apple juice in it, innit.

Bison grass vodka straight doesn't really taste like vodka as such, it's almost like some sort of vodka liquer. It's fucking good though.

[Nodaisho]

Hey Vendetagaist is an ok dude even if he does like jager. Ew, jager.

For serious, stupid laws. I can't buy over 22% until I'm 20.

Consider that many posters here live in the U.S., where we can't buy anything until we are 21. Not that many obey those rules, granted, but some do. I say that falls under count your blessings.

[Vendetagainst]

But what Americans almost never realize is that the 21 law only applies to the purchase of alcohol, laws pertaining to consumption are controlled by the state. For example, most states permit drinking under parental consent and sometimes presence, and I think every state permits ceremonial consumption (e.g. Church wine).

[Nodaisho]

They lie. They are the government, they are getting good at it. They put pressure on parents here not to let their kids drink, but in private with their parents supervising, it isn't against the law. Course, when your parents don't want you drinking, that law doesn't help you at all.

[Vendetagainst]

Yeah, it's one of those laws that certain people try to say doesn't exist and that a lot of people don't even know about. Most people in Chicago think it's illegal to own a gun, for example, when it absolutely isn't. And (@roxie) those parents allowed other children to drink, they don't have the right to make that decision.

This is a pretty useful site

[Ballard]

I think the type of alcohol you're drinking heavily affects the situation as well.

Fuckin', if the cops caught you and a bunch of your buddies sipping on a nice red wine, they probably wouldn't get you into very much trouble.

It's the sketchball nature of underage drinking that causes shit for people.

[Patatat]

Bourbon: Something meant to be dranken slowly, and casually.

Listen, I am drinking to be the opposite of sober. Not to be this guy:

[Ballard]

One day I'm gonna write a thesis on how James Bond was a closet alcoholic.

And had poor taste in liquor.

Who the fuck shakes a martini?

[Patatat]

I already wrote a thesis on how Indiana Jones is more badass then James Bond.

[Patatat]

No, no no...

Its actually good, and very in-depth using pretty good logic. I'll explain after I go outside to smoke a cigarette, and drink more booze.

[Nodaisho]

Yeah, it's one of those laws that certain people try to say doesn't exist and that a lot of people don't even know about. Most people in Chicago think it's illegal to own a gun, for example, when it absolutely isn't. And (@roxie) those parents allowed other children to drink, they don't have the right to make that decision.

This is a pretty useful site

Thanks for linking that site, I misphrased my post, meant to say that in my state, it isn't illegal.

[akashacatbat]

I recommend bison grass vodka.

it tastes like apple pie if apple pie had alcohol in it.

ASDFGHJKL

And here I was going to tell people to AVOID that stuff. Then again, my only experience with it has been when it is luke-warm, straight from the bottle and passed around a campfire in The Middle Of Nowhere, Poland. I haven't even looked into whether or not they sell it in the States.

Alcoholic beverage of choice for me is beer. I realize, that being a girl, I am supposed to like those fruity drinks, but they have WAY too much sugary-stuff and that makes me sick. If I do mix, it is usually rum and Diet Coke. I love Bacardi 151. I can do shots of that with no chaser and no flinching. But whoever said they couldn't tell one rum from another is right... I made mixed drinks with 151 and diet coke one night and ended up drinking a whole fifth before I knew it. Needless to say, I was not a happy camper the following morning.

Also, sake is delicious. I prefer warm to cold.

[Eris]

Then again, my only experience with it has been when it is luke-warm, straight from the bottle and passed around a campfire in The Middle Of Nowhere, Poland. I haven't even looked into whether or not they sell it in the States.

That could be because luke-warm vodka is pretty nasty compared to ice-cold vodka. Vodka straight from the freezer is much smoother than it is at room temperature.

I drink vodka, but don't really have a preference except that it should smell like I am about to drink metho. Nor should I be able to smell it across the room. Funnily enough, that rules out a lot of the (shitty) cheap stuff! Every now and then I drink coconut rum and coke, but that is because it is cheap coconut rum so I don't feel guilty covering up the majority of the flavour with the coke.

[Johnny C]

FOR THE SIPPERS: Bourbon tastes phenomenal.

FOR THE QUAFFERS: Bourbon will get you hella smashed.

SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE

[Patatat]

Bourbon is meant to be sipped though, and I respect that rule. As drinking it quickly usually leads to an overwhelmingly strong taste. So its really for the classy sippers. That and its too damn expensive for quick consumption. (At least any Bourbon worth a damn.)

[parm]

Yeah, so, historically, me and my vast collection of scotch single malts (including my precious, precious 25-year Talisker) would have been all, like, Fuck Bourbon and that, but there's some people out there who I like and respect who seem to think that there's some good bourbon, and the idea of pretending to be some grizzled old dude with a tin bath and a blunderbuss sort of appeals. So, maybe I'd like to try some good bourbon.

Not JD, though, that stuff tastes like crap.

Unless you use it to make a whiskey sour, that's alright.

[Verergoca]

Ew, JD. That is like, right up there with Grouse and JW in ewness.

Also, everybody who thinks shots are the way to go with booze. YOU FAIL! You dont actually taste what you are drinking! Just scarfing it down, means you might as well be drinking methylated spirits!

Also, Armagnac! Everybody should have a bottle of armagnac standing by!

[parm]

Also, Armagnac! Everybody should have a bottle of armagnac standing by!

Yes! It's like cognac, except for real men.

[jimbunny]

So, do people genuinely buy into the idea that some drinks are more masculine than others? I believe this is pretty much a measure of how prevalent the taste of alcohol is in the drink; am I wrong? Men: is there anything that you would not be caught dead drinking at a party, disregarding taste?

[negative creep]

I totally mentioned shnapps. Thankyouverymuch.

Peach Schnapps is NOT schnaps.

[parm]

Woohoo!

*goes shopping*

[Edith]

I am not as seasoned a bourbon drinker as Our Tommy, but on my recent visit to Kentucky I made time to visit two distilleries: Woodford Reserve and Wild Turkey.

Woodford Reserve makes only one product, and it is excellent and expensive. Their tour costs $5 if you're old enough to drink and is free for the underage crowd. The reason for the price difference is that there are samples offered at the end of the tour, which render many guests on the tour unable to refrain from purchasing their fine product in the gift shop.  In order to maintain the consistency of their product, Woodford Reserve Bourbon is blended from a variety of barrels, and distilled water is added to bring it down to proof - when it comes out of the barrels it is too strong to be sold as Kentucky Bourbon.

Wild Turkey makes a variety of products, and all their bourbon is barrel proofed. Coming out of the barrel ready to go leads to a much stronger end-product. The tour-guide-lady said it gives it more flavor, but when I tasted it - even the Wild Turkey Rare Breed, their high-end product - I found that the additional burnt wood flavor overshadowed the sugary vanilla and caramels. I couldn't find them, even when I added a ton of ice and let it melt for a while. Oh, their tour was free, I had to buy a bottle to taste it. I also wanted to try the liqueur they make, but couldn't really afford two bottles as I was buying an awesome brown hoodie with turkey tracks up the sleeve.



I noticed that between the tours, people on the Woodford Reserve tour dressed up kind of snooty, whereas on the Wild Turkey tour, pretty much everyone was in jeans and there were a lot of kids along. The WT tour was free to everyone, and the only free samples were this insanely good fudge made with bourbon in it. Oh, yeah, there was bourbon candy on the WR tour, too.

So, since exploring those two bourbons, I have made a third bourbon purchase, and one Tommy failed to mention: Buffalo Trace, located just outside of Frankfort, Kentucky. Buffalo Trace is lighter in color than either WT or WR, and lies closer to WR on the smoothness scale. It is a nice, drinkable, less expensive top-shelf bourbon, which I took to a knitting event to share, along with a bag of ice and a bottle of diet coke. To my surprise, pretty much all the ladies had some, and only one of them felt the need to mix it.

I really enjoyed the tours I went on, and will probably go back to Kentucky for a few days this fall to take in the rest of the Kentucky Bourbon Heritage Trail. Although I lived in Kentucky for six years, I never even considered going on a distillery tour until I was there this trip and nearly drove off a bridge in the middle of the night, taking a shortcut from Versailles to Lawrenceburg. I'm pretty glad I have glasses for night driving now.

Starting to ramble; time to stop.

[Patatat]

This is a thread about booze, and he just wrote an essay. Its 9:19 in the morning, and I am hung over. That many words makes me want to punch things.

On the argument of if one drink is more manly then the other, I don't really see the difference. I mean sure there are some drinks, which are purely meant for women. So aside from those drinks as long as you're drinking in the none vagina category of alcoholic beverages, its all right in my book. It all gets you where you are going. Also, any man who brings a Wine Cooler to a party, needs to just end it right there.