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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #100 on: 19 Aug 2008, 09:56 »





I was wavering during this debate, and yes, McNinja was about to get my vote, but I think we have to call the whole thing off.

To quote Ray during the badass games

"Cornelius, you could have won this thing in your sleep, but you didn't, and I'm sure the other players thank you for extending that courtesy. Congratulations, Cornelius. You are the baddest dude in town; you are the mirror that shows a normal man that he is a clown."

and is there a greater authority on badassery than Raymond Smuckles?
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #101 on: 19 Aug 2008, 11:03 »

I do not see how there is even a debate here.

1. James Bond is hired muscle, a government stooge. No matter how awesome he is, he's only badass because the Queen owns his ass. Indiana Jones is a self-made man, a teacher who conducts his badassery on his own terms, because he believes that precious artifacts should be in a museum instead of in the hands of Nazis.

2. Indiana Jones fights Nazis, the evillest people on Earth (and yeah, I know he fights Commies in the new movie but I haven't seen it yet, and let's just forget "Temple of Doom" exists). James Bond fights against whomever his government is against, again because he is the Queen's little bitch. Many Communists (and now, I guess, unspecified Middle Eastern "terrorists") were good people. Ergo, Indiana is more moral than Bond.

3. Indiana ain't afraid to get his hands dirty. Aside from snakes, there's nothing Indiana fears. James Bond's machismo hides a deep seated neuroticism that manifests itself in foppish habits, an uptight manner, and incredibly unstable relationships with women. Indiana is also friends with Jonathan Rhys-Davies, who was excellent in Sliders.

4. The proper way to serve a martini is stirred not shaken.

5. Dude, Last Crusade. Come on, dude.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #102 on: 19 Aug 2008, 11:10 »

I'm pretty sure the contest comes down to Dr. McNinja and Cornelius now.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #103 on: 19 Aug 2008, 11:33 »

Indiana is also friends with Jonathan Rhys-Davies, who was excellent in Sliders.

And the whole debate is thrown open again!  :-D
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #104 on: 19 Aug 2008, 11:42 »

Excuse me, but did Dr. Who or whatever ever surf a DraculaBot while re-entering Earth's atmosphere after punching the real Dracula in the face on his Moon Base?

No.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #105 on: 19 Aug 2008, 16:32 »

Excuse me, but did Dr. Who or whatever ever surf a DraculaBot while re-entering Earth's atmosphere after punching the real Dracula in the face on his Moon Base?

No.

Is that because he couldn't or because he did not choose to?
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #106 on: 19 Aug 2008, 16:46 »

Um... Who is this Cornelius chappie?

Dr. McNinja is just a clone of Dr. McSteamy only with more ninja skills and a better attitude.

The Daleks are the most terrifying monster in all of science fiction and they are afraid of The Doctor.

Indiana Jones carries a revolver and a whip, James Bond carries a Walther, Dr. McWhinger has a big swordy thing and maybe throwing stars. The Doctor has a screwdriver, gum and string. Even MacGuyver needed a swiss-army knife. Plus Mac never hung with Shakespeare.

Also, James Bond drinks Bradford martinis because bruising the gin while shaking makes it taste different.

I'm amazed Mike Harmon from John Ringo's 'Ghost' book hasn't come up yet. But then perhaps it's too republican for this group.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #107 on: 19 Aug 2008, 17:45 »

The ghost series should never have existed, John Ringo would be one of the first to tell you that. He wrote it because the story was distracting him from what he needed to work on, and then mentioned it online in an offhand manner, and his fans insisted on him publishing it, and his publisher refused to let him use a pseudonym.

Doctor McNinja was around before Doctors Fucking, so the other doctor is a clone of him, but without the awesomeness.

He isn't as badass as McNinja, but how 'bout Inspector Tequila?
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #108 on: 19 Aug 2008, 23:02 »

What part of David Tennant don't you understand??

Sorry, but you wanting to bone the guy who plays the latest Doctor isn't as impressive as you seem to believe it to be.

Also, who the hell is Dr McSteamy?  All I get are hits from Greys Anatomy, and surely you don't mean that god-damned fucking awful show.

Also also, if I see someone quote the entirety of the "you could have won this in your sleep" speech one more time or spelling out in extremely over-obvious fashion anything to do with Achewood I'm gonna wig out.  Part of the appeal/comedic value of Achewood is that it does things in a casual, matter of fact fashion.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #109 on: 19 Aug 2008, 23:09 »

Wig out? I don't know what that is, but it sounds hilarious. All hairpieces flying everywhere in a fit of rage, toupées ricocheting off of the walls...
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #110 on: 20 Aug 2008, 05:33 »

The Daleks are the most terrifying monster in all of science fiction and they are afraid of The Doctor.

They are also afraid of stairs. The Daleks of the past series weren't really that terrifying, but then, those are the only eps I've seen (Tom Baker). Kind of like gussied up Roombas.
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« Reply #111 on: 20 Aug 2008, 06:17 »

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #112 on: 20 Aug 2008, 08:07 »

Tuna, you've obviously never seen Rememberance of the Daleks. That gave me nightmares for years.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #113 on: 20 Aug 2008, 11:07 »



The dude bangs an Inquisitor... you know.. someone who can destroy in entire fucking solar system just by a phone call?
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #114 on: 20 Aug 2008, 12:41 »

The Doctor has a screwdriver, gum and string. Even MacGuyver needed a swiss-army knife.

Yes but the screwdriver is used to get him out of practically any conceivable situation, it is the ultimate dues ex machina.

"Locked in a room? It's ok the sonic screwdriver can pick the lock!"

"Hmm, Dalek invasion? Just press this button on the sonic screwdriver to transmit a virus throughout the race"

"Having trouble achieving and maintaining an erection? Guess what, the sonic screwdriver has a setting to cure that!"
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #115 on: 20 Aug 2008, 14:20 »

Leinad, by extension, Harry Flashman, well known victorian hero, etc is a bad ass.  GM Fraser would blush...
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #116 on: 20 Aug 2008, 14:45 »

Could you provide some titles that have Harry Flashman in them? If he is anything like Ciaphas Cain I will devour them.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #117 on: 20 Aug 2008, 18:12 »

This thread is so full of win. I am so proud of myself.

Dr.McNinja is the true badass though, but this is between Indiana, and James.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #118 on: 20 Aug 2008, 19:27 »

Did someone bring Warhammer into this?  That was totally unexpected.  When I think of badass pretty much the LAST thing that comes into my mind is Warhammer.....it even comes after ponies and unicorns.

I don't think any argument will be able to convince me that Indiana Jones is badass....I just...don't feel it.  He's great, the first three movies were amazing (I would rather watch Temple of Doom ten times than watch the new piece of garbage).  For me Bond is better....and McNinja has always reigned supreme.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #119 on: 20 Aug 2008, 19:29 »

Did someone bring Warhammer into this?  That was totally unexpected.  When I think of badass pretty much the LAST thing that comes into my mind is Warhammer.....it even comes after ponies and unicorns.

Normally I would agree, but Ciaphas Cain is so totally NOT a badass in the most badass way. Sandy Mitchell does such an amazing job of bringing him to life that I find that I actually like the books. I don't like anything else by Black Library at all, but Ciaphas Cain is hilarious.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #120 on: 20 Aug 2008, 20:15 »

He is a large, semi-muscular man.

But he is not a badass.



There's a badass.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #121 on: 20 Aug 2008, 20:17 »

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #122 on: 20 Aug 2008, 20:21 »

I know we are not talking about real people gentlemen, but I will throw in my hat

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #123 on: 20 Aug 2008, 20:25 »

You wanna know why teddy bears are called teddy bears?  Because Theodore Roosevelt once refused to shoot a bear that was sick.  People made fun of him and he was in all sorts of cartoons.

Someone wrote to him asking if they could call their stuffed bears "Teddy Roosevelt Bears".  It stuck.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #124 on: 20 Aug 2008, 20:33 »

Actually, Theodore Roosevelt wins this thread. Read up on the real Teddy bear... You'll be scared after, once you realize that if he wanted to he could kill you right now.

http://www.cracked.com/article_15895_p5.html
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #125 on: 20 Aug 2008, 20:35 »



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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #126 on: 21 Aug 2008, 04:22 »



Ahem, I mean

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #127 on: 21 Aug 2008, 05:32 »

Sam Steele beats Teddy Rooseveldt three ways to hell. 

Back to the thread, if we have to choose between James Bond and Indiana Jones, then I have to go with Sean Connery's Bond.  Just cause.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #128 on: 21 Aug 2008, 05:54 »

But the original premise of the thread was/is OH GOD SO BORING so we have been trying to spice it up by suggesting actual badasses.

And man, it pains me to say it but as this is the Movies, TV Shows & Books forum I am not sure Cornelius or Dr McNinja qualify :(  That leaves Ash as the baddest motherfucker in this thread by my account.  But then again maybe I can introduce you to

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #129 on: 21 Aug 2008, 06:10 »

I'm pretty sure Ash could kick Teddy Roosevelt's ass. Wait what is this thread about again.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #130 on: 21 Aug 2008, 07:15 »

est, watch or re-watch The Dirty Dozen.  Reisman is badder than Ash, not by much. 

where is Donald Duck?
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #131 on: 21 Aug 2008, 11:21 »

Ash, if fighting Roosevelt, would have the advantage that Roosevelt is dead and Ash sure knows how to handle the Deadites.

Not to mention, all due repect to the badass former president, I'm fairly sure that Ash could at least spell President correctly.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #132 on: 21 Aug 2008, 13:11 »

But the original premise of the thread was/is OH GOD SO BORING so we have been trying to spice it up by suggesting actual badasses.

And man, it pains me to say it but as this is the Movies, TV Shows & Books forum I am not sure Cornelius or Dr McNinja qualify :(  That leaves Ash as the baddest motherfucker in this thread by my account.  But then again maybe I can introduce you to

http://DRESDEN BITCHES!

Oh Hells yeah!  Dresden is awesome.

Of course there is also

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #133 on: 21 Aug 2008, 16:17 »

Ash
Dr. Mcninja
Indiana
Bond
Doctor
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everyone else...

there's a hierarchy folks, 'spect it.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #134 on: 21 Aug 2008, 17:34 »

Wait, should we add Davy Jones?  The man did ripe out his own heart.  Then again all that, "I love the sea," crap.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #135 on: 21 Aug 2008, 17:43 »

You must have dislexia-- its:
Doctor
Indiana
Jayne
Mal
Wash
Captain Jack Harkness
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everyone else
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Clay Aiken

The fact that Ash is not anywhere on your list thereby negates it's very validity.  "everyone else" doesn't count.

but i do suffer from sleydxia
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #136 on: 21 Aug 2008, 17:49 »

"If it's a lesson in love, then I should warn you, I have a very sexy learning disorder.  What do I call it, Kif?

:sigh: Sexlexia."
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #137 on: 22 Aug 2008, 00:17 »

Hmmm... Ash stuck up between Jayne and Mal...

If I were gay then that is something I would Definitely want to see.

But you're all wrong, it's:
Bond,
The Doctor,
Ray Park,
Ash,
Jones,
Smith - from Shoot 'Em Up,
House.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #138 on: 22 Aug 2008, 04:27 »

The ranking is:

Capt Reisman
Ash
Bond (Sean Connery, then Daniel Craig)
John McLane
Indiana Jones
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« Reply #139 on: 22 Aug 2008, 12:23 »

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #140 on: 22 Aug 2008, 19:53 »

True.  Bond never walked barefoot over broken glass to kill terrorists by throwing them off a thirty story building.
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« Reply #141 on: 22 Aug 2008, 20:39 »

Yeah but he's hot.

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« Reply #142 on: 22 Aug 2008, 21:08 »

His stash and goatee are a little.....pubey
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #143 on: 22 Aug 2008, 21:09 »

I would still do him. No question.

Also, to be more relevant to this thread, Indiana Jones will forever be more of a badass than James Bond.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #144 on: 22 Aug 2008, 22:58 »

I always think of Even Stevens when I think of Shia. I just do. And hear his awful, squeaky voice going "Ah! No! No!" which were half his lines.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #145 on: 23 Aug 2008, 03:41 »

Shia Labeouf wasn't in Die Hard 4.0, that was Justin Long who was, admittedly, pretty good in the roll.

Also, James Bond wheelied a Artic through a fire before fighting on top of a tanker full of petrol and cocaine. That's pretty badass. Oh and did i mention that he killed a guy by ramming him with an underwater drill torpedo?

Oh, and he killed a guy by blowing him out of an airlock IN SPACE!

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #146 on: 23 Aug 2008, 03:47 »

Ash Williams introduced middle ages England to the twelve-gauge shotgun and killed his own doppleganger.

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« Reply #147 on: 23 Aug 2008, 11:23 »

And Capt, later Maj Reisman, was prepared to parachute behind enemy lines to infiltrate a Nazi base with 12 convicted criminals, most of whom want to kill him, as backup.  After accomplishing the mission he steals a vehicle and drives out.

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #148 on: 23 Aug 2008, 12:53 »

Justin is at least funny. Shia is just... Annoying, in a very well scripted way.

Also he looks like a girl.

Not in a good way.

Also, Long made an awesome slacker in 'Accepted'.

James Bond had an Aston Martin DB5 with built-in machine guns.

Indianna Jones had a horse... The Horse was stock and had no extras. Not even a CD player or an ejector seat.
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« Reply #149 on: 23 Aug 2008, 13:13 »

Which, frankly, is a point in his favor, considering that he's attacked and disabled a tank from on horseback.
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