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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #50 on: 15 Aug 2008, 12:37 »

I mean, he can travel through time in a machine that looks like a public phone.

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #51 on: 15 Aug 2008, 13:08 »

Ok, let me revise that. He can travel through time in a public phone and NOT LOOK LIKE A MORON.

Yes, Bill and Ted are fun, but they look like idiots. Probably because they are. The Doctor is not.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #52 on: 15 Aug 2008, 13:12 »

Seriously, if anyone can watch Human Nature/Family of Blood and not come to the conclusion that A) David Tennant is a fantastic, amazing, brilliant actor and B) The Doctor is a terrifying force of the universe and a complete badass, then they are severely disabled.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #53 on: 15 Aug 2008, 14:11 »

Lads - Richard Sharpe will take both James Bond and Indiana Jones on.  Beat them, and take their women. 

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #54 on: 15 Aug 2008, 14:35 »

The Doctor will then save these women from an alien threat and may consider to take them as companions, thus leaving them with massive near incurable sexual hang-ups for the Doctor.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #56 on: 15 Aug 2008, 15:06 »

How the hell did we forget Dr. McNinja?
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #57 on: 15 Aug 2008, 15:26 »

Ahem.

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #58 on: 15 Aug 2008, 16:10 »

I just got my sister into to Doctor Who or, more specifically, David Tennant.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #59 on: 15 Aug 2008, 17:44 »

As much as our Gallifreyan friend would indeed do all sort os of hardass crazy shit. ruchard sharpe would still take his woman, ravish her, call everyone a bastard and singlehandedly defeat whatever army you threw at him.

He is that hard, and rough around the edges.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #60 on: 15 Aug 2008, 19:43 »

Actually, he's Henry Jones Jr.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #61 on: 15 Aug 2008, 22:10 »

That's completely awesome.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #62 on: 15 Aug 2008, 22:24 »

I wish I had a scarf like his. Meeting Jesus would be pretty cool too.
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« Reply #63 on: 15 Aug 2008, 22:56 »

Oh geez you must have to be a pretty cool dude to have a scarf like that

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #64 on: 15 Aug 2008, 23:34 »

Judging by that comic... Jesus was trapped in the cave by the doctor's hair.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #65 on: 16 Aug 2008, 04:05 »

Sharpe could kick an insane amount of arse... Right up until he came across a car and stabbed it, thinking it was a dragon. Not to mention he'd probably use an ipod as a mirror and a laptop as a bludgeon. Bond, at least, knew how to work a PC.

BTW, that Doctor Who companions poster is Awesome!
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #66 on: 16 Aug 2008, 08:32 »

In the Bon vs Jones debate, whilst I probably love Raiders more than any Bond film it's important to remember that Speilberg really wanted to do a Bond film and when he didn't get one himself and Lucas came up with Indiana Jones.

Therefore no Bond = no Jones.

Bond is a badass that inspired further badassery.

You got to go for the source on that score.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #67 on: 16 Aug 2008, 08:45 »



Come on now. This guy sliced up a firing squad in the time it took them to reload.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #68 on: 16 Aug 2008, 09:30 »

He also died, and wasn't particularly a badass, more of a renaissance man and revolutionary.  Not to mention doesn't have a good deal of mythos about him.  I mean a comic and a movie dont inspire comparisons to the serials that are Bond and Indy.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #69 on: 16 Aug 2008, 10:25 »

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #70 on: 16 Aug 2008, 13:01 »

Sharpe could kick an insane amount of arse... Right up until he came across a car and stabbed it, thinking it was a dragon. Not to mention he'd probably use an ipod as a mirror and a laptop as a bludgeon. Bond, at least, knew how to work a PC.

BTW, that Doctor Who companions poster is Awesome!

Just remeber that the man did know how to shoot.  Jumping from a muzzleloader to an 18 shot glock (or more likely 13 shot Browning) wouldn't be that much of a leap.  Moving to an era where he could rise on merit in the army would be a much larger leap, that and his best friend being a resident of a separate country might also cause some discombobulation.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #72 on: 17 Aug 2008, 16:01 »

He also died, and wasn't particularly a badass, more of a renaissance man and revolutionary.  Not to mention doesn't have a good deal of mythos about him.  I mean a comic and a movie dont inspire comparisons to the serials that are Bond and Indy.


Bear in mind that he also toppled a fascist regime virtually single handed.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #73 on: 17 Aug 2008, 17:37 »

I bore that in mind, but besides that, I dont really think thats comparable.  The Bond vs. Indy is a battle of character, something V lacked terribly.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #74 on: 17 Aug 2008, 21:57 »

..........How exactly did V get into this discussion? 

Let's look at some figures shall we?  As far as the most succesful film franchises go Bond is number 2.  Number 1 happens to be Harry Potter....which is embarassing.  Where is Indiana Jones you ask?  Number.....8.  Just abover Shrek and just below Batman.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #75 on: 18 Aug 2008, 00:12 »

Bear in mind that he also toppled a fascist regime virtually single handed.

All in all, wasn't V a symbol of freedom from fascist oppression and, most importantly, anarchy. He is a symbol very much like the 'blind justice' ststue on top of the courthouse.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #76 on: 18 Aug 2008, 03:28 »

What the hell, guys?

Bond and Indy are mere heroes who tended to occasionally kick ass.

V's entire existence was asskickery and rebellion. V is about as punk as you get and he rarely even flips out and kills bitches. Instead,  he sacrifices his life and sets in motion a plan to destroy an entire system of government. I think he's atheistic, too, so sacrificing his life is a double-whammy.
V doesn't just beat up bad guys - he's a philosopher, a revolutionary and a political matyr. Most heroes can never hope to be as half as badass as him. Indy and Bond are pretty lame in comparison, even combined.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #77 on: 18 Aug 2008, 03:31 »

I still think the thread should have stopped when Doctor McNinja was brought up. You can't get more badass than Doctor McNinja, guys.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #78 on: 18 Aug 2008, 04:00 »

I struggle to see where philosopher, political martyr or revolutionary = badass.  They might be good qualities but they definitely arent badass.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #79 on: 18 Aug 2008, 04:36 »

How are they anything BUT badass?

Bond and Indie fight for simple reasons, like because Nazis are silly or because the evil guy has a big laser-gun.

V fights on a conceptual level as well as a physical one, which necessitates a darker reality and not only more badassery in general, but a level of conceptual badassery that most other heroes never touch.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #80 on: 18 Aug 2008, 04:56 »

Seriously, someone define badass for these lost souls.  Actually Ill just rape urbandictionaries wisdom for it.

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His own path, as in, a man in it for himself and earthly delights.  And understated?  You know, NOT wearing a Halloween custome.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #81 on: 18 Aug 2008, 05:01 »

What I'm saying here, and all of you will hate me for this, is that both Bond and Indie suck really hard. They can beat up some bad guys and impress some chicks - so what? Every hero does that.

V walks the line of villainy and relative morality, which is far more badass.

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #82 on: 18 Aug 2008, 06:17 »

Let's look at some figures shall we?  As far as the most succesful film franchises go Bond is number 2.  Number 1 happens to be Harry Potter....which is embarassing.  Where is Indiana Jones you ask?  Number.....8.  Just abover Shrek and just below Batman.

Man, that's not even comparable. You're talking a quantity versus quality matter here. There have been twenty two Bond films versus four Indy films. That's a bit lop-sided of a comparison to make.

Beyond that, if you're going to use that to gauge something, that means that an angsty teenage wizard with a bad haircut is a bigger badass than either of them.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #83 on: 18 Aug 2008, 06:58 »

Indiana Jones could probably deflect any spell cast at him with his five-'o'-clock shadow.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #84 on: 18 Aug 2008, 08:29 »

I heard, motherfucker, had like, 30 goddamn dicks.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #85 on: 18 Aug 2008, 10:10 »

To be fair though, the ultimate movie badass is Capt Reisman, from the Dirty Dozen
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #86 on: 18 Aug 2008, 17:35 »

I'm sorry, but it's really all moot.  The world's biggest badass is Mr Rogers.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #87 on: 18 Aug 2008, 18:06 »




Oh I'm sorry, what was all that?

I was too busy reading about Dr McNinja's ghost pulling Death's head off and his separate corporeal form knocking it the fuck out the park using the rest of Death's body as a bat.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #88 on: 18 Aug 2008, 20:50 »

Dr. McNinja is made of win.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #90 on: 18 Aug 2008, 21:31 »

I'm actually kinda disappointed about the switch to color, I thought the high contrast B&W worked really well for the comic.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #91 on: 18 Aug 2008, 21:39 »

I am a little less worried about the colour and more about the apparent re-explaining of things.  I am guessing that it is because he plans on releasing a new book from the start of the colour strips onward?  Perhaps there is some sort of contract involved with the new inker, because she's worked on professional stuff before?  I dunno.  It feels a little bit off so far.  The previous story arcs have all opened a little more low key and with less explanation involved.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #92 on: 18 Aug 2008, 21:56 »

It might be a brief one-off just to show off.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #93 on: 18 Aug 2008, 22:08 »

Or to test how well-received it is.  Good point!
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #94 on: 18 Aug 2008, 23:07 »

Also, he pretty much just ended a pretty long and involved story. I think he kind of wants to start from the start a bit before he gets involved in another and the switch to color is as good a reason to do that as any.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #95 on: 18 Aug 2008, 23:43 »

I think Doctor McNinja is kind of cheating for use in a badassery debate, it is like debating what the largest thing alive is and bringing in a talking galaxy.
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« Reply #96 on: 19 Aug 2008, 00:11 »

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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #97 on: 19 Aug 2008, 02:18 »

Oooooh, tough one.
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Re: Why Indiana Jones is more of a badass then James Bond.
« Reply #99 on: 19 Aug 2008, 06:35 »

I agree with Spluff here, Cornelius won the Badass Games.

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