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[KvP]

I recently decided to go back through my assorted Paul Verhoeven movies. And good goddamn, is this guy a fuckin' genius or what? Robocop, Starship Troopers, Basic Instinct, Turkish Delight, TOTAL RECALL, SHOWGIRLS. These are truly some of my favorite films. It's like he makes these big blustery Michael Bay sorts of films but he does them right. I haven't seen Black Book yet, but I've heard it's good.

I started this thread because I was shocked (shocked!) to find that none of my friends can appreciate the gifts of Paul Verhoeven. They don't even like Total Recall! Comfort me, internets!

So anyway, Starship Troopers - great movie or... the greatest movie?

[Blue Kitty]

The second and third movies were so awesome that no theater could contain them.....straight to video

[Hat]

God Showgirls is so good

[celticgeek]

The book was better, in my opinion.

[TheFuriousWombat]

The great Jodorowsky of "The Holy Mountain" and "El Topo" fame called "Starship Troopers" the greatest cowboy movie ever made. I just might second that.

[Ikrik]

Total Recall was basically amazing.....but that's just cause Arnie is so hilarious.  I've seen Starship Troopers probably around 10 times....but never because I want to watch it, all my friends seem to love it.

[Blue Kitty]

That reminds me.  The cartoon?  Absolutely freaking amazing.  Follows the plot of the movie some what.

[Nodaisho]

The book was better, in my opinion.

Yes. Even if the science is dated (at one point they mention using radiation to cure diseases, this was before radiation poisoning was accepted as fact, I guess), the MI are awesome, and while I don't agree with all of the political pontificating, it isn't unbearable. Verhoeven just hated the book, so he changed it from power armored badasses that are trained never to leave someone behind to a disposable army of a fascist government. I need to see the cartoon, if by that you mean the one where they are actually power armored, and I think there was a graphic novel too.

But hey, at least the armor props were used in firefly.

[TheFuriousWombat]

Dude, radiation/radiotherapy is a totally legit way of curing/attempting to cure diseases. It's often used in cancer treatment today.

[Hat]

God Showgirls is so good

It's phenomenal. I've seen it like fifteen times at least. What a film.

The Tiger Woods of shitty movies. It basically stands alone.

My favorite part is the sex scene underneath the mushroom waterfall thing in the sleazy guys pool, it is the most hilarious sex scene that has ever been in a movie.

Or the scene where she first lands a part as a showgirl and the rednut is getting shitty at her and she's on the ground thrusting her pelvis into the air and he's crouching down next to her yelling THRUST IT THRUST IT and getting louder and more annoyed with her every time.

I'm going to go watch it right now.

[Surgoshan]

Dude, radiation/radiotherapy is a totally legit way of curing/attempting to cure diseases. It's often used in cancer treatment today.

Seriously.

Heinlein was a very intelligent and up-to-date individual, and a thorough-going skeptic who despised snake-oil salesmen.  He was aware that radiation wouldn't cure the common cold and that it would kill you in uncontrolled, high doses (see Space Cadet, written at least a decade before Starship Troopers).  When he wrote of radiation's therapeutic uses, he was speaking of the cutting edge of real medical research, not "Curie jug! It keeps your water warm and delivers healthful benefits while curing impotence!"

[Nodaisho]

huh, forgot about that. I'm pretty sure that in Starship Troopers, though, he was talking about almost all diseases and defects being cured by radiation therapy, possibly applying it to the whole planet, it has been a couple years, so I am fuzzy on it. I just remember he was talking about a more wild planet, how the main character was wondering what it would be like to live there, thinking it would be less safe without all the diseases killed.

[tomselleck69]

Alright so who else has seen Spetters?

It's a good'n

[parm]

Fun fact!

I worked on the Starship Troopers FPS that came out a couple of years back. It was pretty bad, actually.

So, uh, sorry about that.

The second film was amazing, if you're completely hammered and forget it's a Starship Troopers film. YAY ZOMBIE MIND-CONTROL ALIENS.

[Border Reiver]

Paul's movies can be good in a "turn your brain off, open the beer and sit back on the couch" kind of way.  Robocop, Starship Troopers and Total Recall being the prime examples. 

[Inlander]

Though, if you turn your brain off then you miss half the point of his films, which are always pretty amazingly subversive. Like, you could enjoy Starship Troopers just 'cause it's a fun and pretty silly adventure, but if you did that you'd miss out on the brilliant satire that's at the core of the film, which for me at least is what makes the film so good.

[Border Reiver]

Or I could look at the underlying premise of the near facsist societies that spawn the need for the MI, Robocop and the need to pay for oxygen, but then I would have to see the plot holes, etc.  Engaging the brain during some movies will lead to not enjoying them, while leaving the brain in neutral allows you to go, "Ahh"

[Nodaisho]

I played the demo of that Starship Troopers game, wasn't bad, though I wouldn't have bought it. Bugs were too strong, and guns were too inaccurate, the whole demo was like fighting the antlions in HL2, except minus the creative ways to avoid fighting them, and the antlions aren't that durable. Would have been one hell of a lot more fun if you were in power armor with nukes and flamethrowers.

[Insectile]

Starship Troopers is one of my favorite movies but the sequels were lacking

The enemy can not push a button, if you disable his hand lol