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ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« on: 11 Sep 2008, 23:32 »

I've heard tonight from three reliable sources (gas station managers) that in the morning, gas in America is going to go up a whopping $1.25 in one fell swoop, making it around $5/gallon average.

Someone in another country, please let me come stay with you.  I will do the dishes and pay rent.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #1 on: 11 Sep 2008, 23:58 »

But you live in one of those rad Euro countries where you don't have to use a car to get every fucking where you would ever want to get to.
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« Reply #2 on: 12 Sep 2008, 00:14 »

Hilarious if true.

The last time I heard Rush Limbaugh(my parents, don't give me grief, I know) he was going on about HA HA HA THE FREE MARKET WORKS IT WAS JUST A BUBBLE IN THE OIL INDUSTRY AND NOW IT'S FIXING ITSELF.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #3 on: 12 Sep 2008, 00:18 »

As someone whose job is to drive around to people's houses all night (NO I AM NOT A DRUG DEALER SHUT UP), I will go on strike if I don't get a raise.
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« Reply #4 on: 12 Sep 2008, 01:16 »

Unless you have a union, that's just a fancy way of saying "I'll quit".
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #5 on: 12 Sep 2008, 02:50 »

Why do you think that? I mean, I'm not saying you're lying, but--holy shit if true.

Does it have to do with this? Because that's pretty big news.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #6 on: 12 Sep 2008, 03:39 »

I've heard tonight from three reliable sources (gas station managers) that in the morning, gas in America is going to go up a whopping $1.25 in one fell swoop, making it around $5/gallon average.

Someone in another country, please let me come stay with you.  I will do the dishes and pay rent.

Im actually looking for a new housemate. Our sixth housemate decided to drop out of University, because he is a lot of words I wouldnt like to use in polite company.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #7 on: 12 Sep 2008, 04:20 »

There are plenty of cities in the U.S that doesn't require a car to get around in.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #8 on: 12 Sep 2008, 04:34 »

Yes, why don't all Americans just move there? Problem solved!

Well, they were talking about countries in EU where you don't have to drive to get anywhere. I was just stating there are places like that in America as well.  :-D
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #9 on: 12 Sep 2008, 05:16 »

From the NY Times this morning. The Price Per Barrel is climbing because of Hurricane Ike forcing shutdowns.

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Gasoline prices in the United States had been falling, too, but they have reversed course and begun to rise as the disruptions have caused gasoline supplies to tighten. Regular unleaded gasoline stands at $3.67 a gallon on average, according to the automobile club AAA, up more than a penny in two days.

Much sharper price spikes could be on the way, at least in some regions. Wholesale gasoline prices on the Gulf Coast soared to more than $4 a gallon on Thursday morning, up more than 70 cents from the day before, according to Tom Kloza, chief oil analyst of the Oil Price Information Service.

“The market is in panic mode,” Mr. Kloza said. “The oddity here is I would not be surprised to see oil at $99 and retail gasoline above $4.”
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #10 on: 12 Sep 2008, 05:18 »

Oh man, it sucks living in a place that doesn't know how to build 'up' and instead just keeps building 'out.'

I can drive for like 3 hours and still be in the same city. This place sucks. Its hot too. Just another 14 months, then I'll be out of here, I swear it.
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« Reply #11 on: 12 Sep 2008, 05:23 »

Based on the context of that article about OPEC, I would expect that to drive the prices of gas down, at least until the rest of OPEC work together to run Saudi Arabia into horrible, uncontrollable debt through a price war they cannot sustain, and then  send crude prices through the roof.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #12 on: 12 Sep 2008, 05:27 »

Tomorrows headline: OPEC offers 1 free Fuck Saudi Arabia bumper sticker with every $10 barrel of crude.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #13 on: 12 Sep 2008, 05:28 »

I just walked in from being out and about where I went by three gas stations.

Station 1:  Up $.34 a gallon on the cheap stuff since yesterday.
Station 2 &3:  Unchanged

So I stopped at one of the unchanged stations and filled up.  While I was in there, the lady behind the counter said to another customer "Get gas now because the price is going up $.20 a gallon in an hour."

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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #14 on: 12 Sep 2008, 06:15 »

This information is from back in April so all these prices will have risen since then but you get the idea of the ratio -



Still, look on the bright side. Your gas money indirectly pays my wages. Think of it as Dski Tax.
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« Reply #15 on: 12 Sep 2008, 06:19 »

In most of those countries though, you either don't have to drive as much, or the wages are higher, so I think it is proportionally balanced.

Also, in a related thought, I'd love to live in like New Hampshire or one of those up east places where you can start walking and cool places are like 10 minutes away, just by walking.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #16 on: 12 Sep 2008, 06:29 »

I thought ahead when I was looking for an apartment for my current job.

I made sure that it was within walking distance.

Sure I had to pay a bit more in rent but I saved so much more in gas money.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #17 on: 12 Sep 2008, 06:35 »

My job actually has moved further away from my house since I've had it. But it still isn't bad. I get good gas millage and only have about a 10 minute drive. And my city does have a busing system, which I could start using more, but its pretty unreliable.
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« Reply #18 on: 12 Sep 2008, 06:36 »

In most of those countries though, you either don't have to drive as much, or the wages are higher, so I think it is proportionally balanced.

I have to drive forty miles to get to my job and forty miles back to get home. Usually four or five times a week.

My car is diesel so it adds up to about $80 a week in petrol.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #19 on: 12 Sep 2008, 06:44 »

It might work better if you put diesel in it.
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« Reply #20 on: 12 Sep 2008, 06:49 »

 :-P
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« Reply #21 on: 12 Sep 2008, 06:54 »

In most of those countries though, you either don't have to drive as much, or the wages are higher, so I think it is proportionally balanced.

I have to drive forty miles to get to my job and forty miles back to get home. Usually four or five times a week.

My car is diesel so it adds up to about $80 a week in petrol.

Quit destroying my arguments, they are only held together on hopes and dreams! You must get great gas mileage to only spend $80 a week. I'd have to fill up after like 4 days of that.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #22 on: 12 Sep 2008, 07:19 »

Hrm. Gas was actually cheaper at the two places I walk by on my way to work this morning. Premium had actually dropped under $4 for the first time in recent memory.

Seriously though? You're basing an assumption of a full 25%+ change in prices off of a gas station manager's say so?

Pro Tip: Managers know shit about shit.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #23 on: 12 Sep 2008, 07:50 »

What I mean is that they really don't know shit beyond what the media probably told us a week ago. Most situations with gas prices are a matter of trends and outside factors. Anyone paying attention to the global economy and world events can probably get a general idea of what they'll probably be paying for gas in a week.

That said, anybody who knows shit about shit probably knew gas was not going to go up by a full buck and a quarter overnight right now. I remember when people were saying the same BS when Katrina hit. Gas was supposed to hit $5 a gallon by the end of the month and $7 a gallon by spring. Three full years later and we didn't actually hit the $5 barrier except in the most expensive of regions, and it pretty much shot right back down immediately when oil companies realized that that shit don't fly. The funniest thing? That was just inflation and poor economic handling and had shit all to do with hurricanes. It was because big oil got greedy.

If I want to know what gas is going to cost next week, I'd sooner ask Tommy or Bryan.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #24 on: 12 Sep 2008, 09:29 »

Sorry to burst your bubble but gas is indeed $5/gallon here this morning, and most gas stations are actually out of gas.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #25 on: 12 Sep 2008, 09:41 »

Source? Because I am calling bullshit on that.

Looking around the internet, the closest I'm finding to back up your claims is a blog post saying several Louisiana area gas stations were claiming as much as a $1.50 jump by Friday and it has been widely debunked as about a twenty cent blip at worst due to the hurricanes. Average gas prices across the nation, including in Louisiana and Texas, are still holding firm under $4 a gallon by everything my google-fu can turn up.

Only two states are averaging over $4 a gallon today, and those are Alaska and Hawaii, both of which are a result of having a typically higher than average price.

How about you back up this rather ludicrous claim?

Edit: All relevant data was yanked unceremoniously from gasbuddy.com and corresponding links with some extra help from google.
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« Reply #26 on: 12 Sep 2008, 09:51 »

The highest I saw in Western Mass this morning was $3.59.

That said, once you get closer to NoHo/Springfield, it's usually about 15 cents lower than Berkshire county.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #27 on: 12 Sep 2008, 09:55 »

Source?  A close friend of mine who just called me.

Trying to Google the price of gas in a couple towns over the past couple of hours strikes me as kind of difficult, though I did find a station close to here that someone has already reported on as having $5/gallon.

My research is turning up around $4/gallon.  But the closest station to me, which I just called, had gone up to $4.95/gallon and is currently out of gas entirely.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #28 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:11 »

Source?  A close friend of mine who just called me.

A close friend? Called you?

Consider my bubble burst.
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« Reply #29 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:17 »

Yes, because it is so completely ridiculous to believe your friends when they call and say "I just drove by three gas stations where gas was $5 a gallon and two of them were out of gas".

 :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #30 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:20 »

It's less your faith in your friends so much as the fact you're expecting people to take your word for it when your best source is "my buddy called me." I'll sooner believe google over a completely sourceless claim like that.
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #31 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:23 »

Oh, fucking Christ.  Don't believe me then!  Fuck, dude, I'm not lying, why the fuck would I have any reason to lie...

Whatever.  This forum.  This fucking forum.
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« Reply #32 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:23 »

Jon, I heard from my friend that his mom's podiatrist had to pay $5 more per gallon.
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« Reply #33 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:25 »

Jackie, where the heck do you live?  I filled up at $3.57 this morning and when I was out picking up lunch an hour ago, I saw no price increases.

Does a lot of the gas in your town come from the areas being effected by the hurricanes?  Maybe that would trigger a localized increase?
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #34 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:27 »

So long as we're going on anecdotal evidence, I just went out to buy myself a sandwitch. I decided to take a look at a few gas stations while I was at it, and they all had $4 regular gas (well $3.999). No one appeared to be out of gas. This is about a $.25 jump for here.
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« Reply #35 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:28 »

Jon, I heard from my friend that his mom's podiatrist had to pay $5 more per gallon.

No shitting way, man! I just heard from Sully down the block that his cousin Joey's roommate's girlfriend just paid like $5 a gallon!
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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #36 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:34 »

Fuck all of you.  If you don't like me, don't fucking respond anymore.  I quit.
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« Reply #37 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:35 »

I heard that 0.999... = 1

In other news, my flight was canceled today because my plane couldn't get off the treadmill.
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« Reply #38 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:39 »

Fuck all of you.  If you don't like me, don't fucking respond anymore.  I quit.

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« Reply #40 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:39 »

Fuck all of you.  If you don't like me, don't fucking respond anymore.  I quit.

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Re: ATTN: Americans: Bend over!
« Reply #41 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:41 »

From Louisville:

"i filled up on my lunch break while it was still 3.87. there were people lined up to the street to get it, and there were people filling up gas cans left and right. by the time i had left and came back through there on my way back to work, it had went up to 4.19."
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« Reply #42 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:43 »

I thought you quit
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« Reply #43 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:44 »

I thought he said $5.
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« Reply #44 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:45 »

...Did anybody click the link?
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« Reply #45 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:47 »

I did and while it took like four minutes to load, I do appreciate SOMEBODY actually backing something up.
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« Reply #46 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:49 »

From Louisville:

"i filled up on my lunch break while it was still 3.87. there were people lined up to the street to get it, and there were people filling up gas cans left and right. by the time i had left and came back through there on my way back to work, it had went up to 4.19."


That must have been in the last hour. Or maybe it's just downtown? Like I said, I looked about an hour ago and it was $4 in the Highlands and Germantown areas.
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« Reply #47 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:55 »

Hasn't gone up any here, so I still do not believe this whole thing.
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« Reply #48 on: 12 Sep 2008, 10:57 »

Not going up in one localized area does not mean that it's not changing in other places. Different cities get their gas from different refineries. If the refinery your city relies on was unaffected than it's no surprise that the price didn't change.
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« Reply #49 on: 12 Sep 2008, 11:01 »

Is it not feasible that a couple of independent gas station owners sought to exploit a regional shortage by bumping their prices to $5 while their stock lasted?

It happens where I live on occasion. It could happen in Tennessee.
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