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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #100 on: 26 Sep 2008, 15:39 »

I heard Obama was a Marvel fan.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #101 on: 26 Sep 2008, 15:45 »

Then he has my vote.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #102 on: 26 Sep 2008, 15:59 »

You mean he's a fan of the chauffeur character from the under-appreciated mid-century novelist Elizabeth Taylor's excellent comedic novel Angel, recently made into a film by Francois Ozon? Superb!
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #103 on: 26 Sep 2008, 16:18 »



I need groupies.

Football fans riot every five fucking seconds etc

So your problem is with violent idiots, not sports really. I'm with you there; I can't imagine any reasonable person is in favor of violent idiocy. The fact that many sports fans are violent idiots isn't a problem with sports, it's a problem with society having so many violent idiots.

As for me, I'm more or less in favor of sports. I say "more or less" because I'm not a sports fan myself and I used to be rather opposed to sports, for exactly the reason you are saying (ie. sports create artificial rivalries that people fight over.) At some point in college however my roommate pointed me to a really interesting book, I wish I could remember the title. It was making the same basic argument as tommy and jon, only in a more formal, civic-planning sense. What the author pointed out was how a large reason cities like to have sports teams is that they are a socially galvanizing force, helping to pull communities together when the people in that community (ie. the city) have barely anything else in common.

Meanwhile, getting back to the violent idiots, I'd certainly rather the violent idiots fight each other than attack because of race or class or something. I mean, ideally there wouldn't be any violence at all, but human nature being what it is then it's better to have the violent idiots herded off to something meaningless.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #104 on: 26 Sep 2008, 17:43 »

Quite a few hooligan firms are violently racist.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #105 on: 26 Sep 2008, 18:15 »

You people are showing an embarrassing lack of knowledge about football hooligans to be perfectly honest
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #106 on: 26 Sep 2008, 18:51 »

Quite a few hooligan firms are violently racist.

In retrospect, that depressing fact isn't surprising. Still doesn't change the overall point though that the problem is the violent idiots, not sports. I mean, do you think these people would stop being violent or racist if sports didn't exist?

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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #107 on: 26 Sep 2008, 19:25 »

You people are showing an embarrassing lack of knowledge about football hooligans to be perfectly honest

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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #108 on: 26 Sep 2008, 20:31 »

Hey I saw a thing on a sports channel once
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #109 on: 26 Sep 2008, 21:47 »

I don't really give a damn about sports hooligans, but professional sports as they are now are in direct conflict with everything I value.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #110 on: 26 Sep 2008, 23:53 »

Baseball was pretty big during the Great Depression, wasn't it?
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #111 on: 27 Sep 2008, 01:08 »

Football hooligans? Mike Balls is your man  :-D
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #112 on: 27 Sep 2008, 19:03 »

Baseball was pretty big during the Great Depression, wasn't it?

So was organised crime and rotgut.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #113 on: 28 Sep 2008, 07:38 »

Baseball was pretty big during the Great Depression, wasn't it?

So was organised crime and rotgut.

So are we just gonna start listing the finer points of the great depression than?

It had bread lines and speakeasies and fast talking gangsters in fedoras and some sort of bowl of dust.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #114 on: 28 Sep 2008, 07:56 »

Actually, I'm completely and utterly comfortable with blaming baseball on the Brits.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #115 on: 28 Sep 2008, 08:23 »

Yeah, I fuckin' hate baseball.  YOUR FAULT.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #116 on: 28 Sep 2008, 11:30 »

Actually, I'm completely and utterly comfortable with blaming baseball on the Brits.

This made me laugh.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #117 on: 28 Sep 2008, 12:47 »

So was organised crime and rotgut.

When the economy collapses and you are left as a dust farmer with nothing but his wind-up radio for entertainment, you'll understand what I was getting at.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #118 on: 28 Sep 2008, 16:53 »

Sports are pretty cool.  I don't much like that big sports stars get paid shitloads to play, but I guess if they bring in more spectator and merchandising dollars as well as more success to the team then the team sees it as being worth it.
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« Reply #119 on: 28 Sep 2008, 17:27 »

So was organised crime and rotgut.

When the economy collapses and you are left as a dust farmer with nothing but his wind-up radio for entertainment, you'll understand what I was getting at.

I can read. Maybe if I lose my eyes and hands sports radio might crop up somewhere at the bottom of my entertainment options.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #120 on: 28 Sep 2008, 22:08 »



"Well, thank god I have sports radio"
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #121 on: 28 Sep 2008, 22:14 »

I can read. Maybe if I lose my eyes and hands sports radio might crop up somewhere at the bottom of my entertainment options.

This was not a good episode of the Twilight Zone.

It did not give me chills at all.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #122 on: 29 Sep 2008, 02:22 »

I don't think sports preferences, appearance, or any of this other superficial SHIT belongs in politics at all.

Idiot.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #123 on: 29 Sep 2008, 02:47 »

Don't forget sense of humour on that list!
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #124 on: 29 Sep 2008, 04:29 »

Are you trying to be funny there? Is that what you're doing?



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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #125 on: 29 Sep 2008, 05:04 »

Well, we've reached lolcats, and have therefore reached the end of this thread.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #126 on: 29 Sep 2008, 06:07 »

I thought the thread didn't end until we reached Hitler?

Or is it cats that look like Hitler now? I'm so confused!
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #127 on: 29 Sep 2008, 08:15 »

Kitlers are so awesome.
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« Reply #128 on: 29 Sep 2008, 09:00 »

I'm pretty sure the internet has reached some kind of transcendant level when a website called catsthatlooklikehitler.com becomes as popular as it has. I'd be willing to bet more teenagers visit that each day than something like BBC or CNN.
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« Reply #129 on: 29 Sep 2008, 09:24 »

Who gives a fat dick what teenagers do
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« Reply #130 on: 29 Sep 2008, 09:30 »

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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #131 on: 29 Sep 2008, 18:59 »

Duuuuuuudes. With today's FUCKING AWESOME win, the Sox have a chance at the playoffs.
ALONG WITH THE CUBS.
THIS CITY IS FUCKING DOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #132 on: 30 Sep 2008, 19:23 »

Dude, I cannot help but feel a little bad that a dude in the UK can be more up-to-date about a team in my city than I am while I know jackshit about soccer, rugby, quidditch, and all those other exciting euro-sports. Clearly your cultural awareness dwarfs my own.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #133 on: 30 Sep 2008, 20:13 »

I'm not sure sports scores count as cultural awareness.

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« Reply #134 on: 30 Sep 2008, 20:17 »

They do when you cannot think of a better word and feel like your post is kinda pointless but you had the impulse to post it and you want to avoid something completely pointless (bordering rather than diving into, see).
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #135 on: 01 Oct 2008, 07:49 »

I'm not sure sports scores count as cultural awareness.

How don't they? Sports are a big part of pretty much every culture.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #136 on: 01 Oct 2008, 11:09 »

But, you could be culturally aware without a lot of knowledge about sports. I think that was his point.
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« Reply #137 on: 01 Oct 2008, 11:14 »

How don't they? Sports are a big part of pretty much every culture.

Yeah, but I don't think you fail at cultural awareness if you don't know the scores and performance of the various teams in another country. I know more or less how Rugby and Cricket* are played, but I don't think I'm really failing at being aware of British and Australian culture just because I couldn't tell you who won the Ashes Cup last year**.

*Ok, this is something of a lie. I've read the rules to Cricket, and I guess I understand the basic idea, but I think I'd still be pretty confused if I tried to watch or play it.

**It was Australia, I just found that out when I Googled to make sure I was remembering the name of the tournament correctly.
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« Reply #138 on: 01 Oct 2008, 11:55 »

@robbieOC: dude, love your avatar. Now I need to watch that movie just to look for the blooper.

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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #139 on: 01 Oct 2008, 12:05 »

I mostly love the panicking Boba Fett in the background, like "Oh shiiiiiiiiiit!" as he flies to his doom. Good stuff.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #140 on: 01 Oct 2008, 18:49 »

@ Benji: I participated in rugby for 4 years and still don't understand either code, I also don't understand cricket or AFL for that matter and believe me, I have tried.
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« Reply #141 on: 01 Oct 2008, 18:56 »

Yeah, I get Rugby pretty well. About as well as I get American Football, I think. Both games seem to have their fare share of arcane rules. Cricket, on the other hand, all of the rules seem arcane to me.
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« Reply #142 on: 02 Oct 2008, 06:51 »

Mugby is the king of sporting codes and I'll elbow anyone that disagrees.
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« Reply #143 on: 02 Oct 2008, 07:20 »

I once played cricket with a bunch of Japanese kids!



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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #144 on: 02 Oct 2008, 08:07 »

Man, Japanese girls really like peace.
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« Reply #145 on: 02 Oct 2008, 11:28 »

I think it's a kind of a subconscious defense mechanism for them. "Peace! Please do not drop another nuclear bomb on us!"

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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #146 on: 02 Oct 2008, 11:49 »

Cricket, on the other hand, all of the rules seem arcane to me.

When people talk to me about cricket I feel like they are speaking another language.
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« Reply #147 on: 02 Oct 2008, 12:36 »

I actually have a theory about why they all do that in pictures, but this is not the right thread for that.

Cricket is actually very interesting to me, now that I kind of understand the rules. The biggest problem is there's never any chance to watch it in the states, and especially in the middle of football country. There's barely any baseball on around here, especially in the fall. But, the idea that games (matches?) can go on for days at a time if played the right way is just pretty cool, though I'd never want to be involved in anything like that.
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Re: NUMBER ONE REASON WHY YOU SHOULDN'T VOTE FOR OBAMA!
« Reply #148 on: 02 Oct 2008, 14:17 »

I once played cricket with a bunch of Japanese kids!

Not strange, the British leave behind sporting codes everywhere they go.
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« Reply #149 on: 02 Oct 2008, 19:08 »

Man, I don't understand.  The basics of Cricket are very easy.  I will explain it right now:

- Two teams consisting of 11 players
- One team bats, the other bowls & fields
- Instead of 4 bases like baseball there's two, with a batsman at both of them (only one is bowled to) and they have things called wickets
- Someone bowls the ball overarm to the batsman
- If the bowled ball hits the wicket, or hits his leg in front of the wicket (ie: was blocked from hitting the wicket by his leg) he is out
- If the batsman hits the ball then he and the off-batsman (ie: the one currently not batting) make a decision to run or not based on how far the ball is from a fielder.
- If the batsmen run once then obviously the off-batsman then becomes the one being bowled to.
- There is a line near each wicket called a crease.  If either batsman is running and is outside that crease then the fielders will try to throw the ball at the wicket to get him out.  It's like tagging a batsman while running in baseball, I guess.
- If a batsman hits the ball with any part of the bat and a fielder catches the ball before it hits the ground then that batsman is out.
- If the batsman hits the ball and it reaches the outer boundary of the field (ie: the wall between the field and the spectators) then it is treated specially.  If it hits it in any way but does not go over it it is counted as four points and the batsmen don't need to run.  If it goes over the boundary on the full then it is six points.
- Bowling is done in sets of six.  These are called "overs".  At the end of each over the bowler swaps ends and bowls to the opposite wicket, no matter which batsman is currently at which wicket.
- There needs to be 2 batsmen on the field to continue, so if 10 batsmen get out that team is done batting and it's the other team's turn to bat.
- Each team bats either once or twice and whichever team gets the most runs by the end of the game is the winner.

I guess maybe the confusing part is that there are a few different types of games.  Cricket can be played in either a limited overs style or not, depending on the game.  In a limited overs style game (usually for one-day matches or Twenty20) there are 50 (or 20) overs to an innings, so in addition to trying not to get all-out you've got a limited number of balls to make the highest score you can.  Limited overs is generally the easiest to understand because one team bats for 50 overs, then the other, then someone wins.  There is also another type of game where the overs are not limited, and each team has to bat twice.  I think that these games are played over five days, and each team has to have two innings or else the game ends in a draw.  Because of this there's all sorts of tactical shit that goes down whereby a team Captain can declare his team's batting innings over once they've reached a high enough score so that there's more time to get the other innings over with and ensure it doesn't wind up a draw, or if a team is not scoring very well but not able to be dismissed they waste time so that they can salvage a draw instead of a loss.  That sort of thing.

Man, and I don't really even watch cricket.
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