Topic: Elitist trap? (Read 9473 times)

Aurjay · « **on:** 19 Nov 2008, 19:04 »

Ok, so I'm a grammar/spelling Nazi and I'm wondering if I just fell for Jeph's elitist trap of forgetting to put a "n" in when. I've never seen any other grammar/spelling mistakes that weren't done intentionally. Has anyone ever found a mistake before?

Tybalt · « **Reply #1 on:** 19 Nov 2008, 20:51 »

...probably just a spelling mistake.

I mean, yeah, pissing off grammar nazis is the HEIGHT of comedy, but honestly Jeph just makes mistakes sometimes.

tomselleck69 · « **Reply #2 on:** 19 Nov 2008, 20:55 »

Jeph has ended sentences with prepositions before AND PREPOSITIONS ARE THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT END A SENTENCE WITH.

Spluff · « **Reply #3 on:** 19 Nov 2008, 20:56 »

Usually he gets several billion emails and a topic on the forums when he makes a mistake so he'll go back and alter it.

Surgoshan · « **Reply #4 on:** 19 Nov 2008, 21:18 »

Quote from: tomselleck69 on 19 Nov 2008, 20:55

Jeph has ended sentences with prepositions before AND PREPOSITIONS ARE THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT END A SENTENCE WITH.

Fuck that noise.

Remember the movie this line appeared in?

"Remember that guy off in whose trailer they were jacking?"

alexisdanaan · « **Reply #5 on:** 19 Nov 2008, 21:21 »

....I have a Celtic knot tattoo on my back... *sad face* lol

gobbleykins · « **Reply #6 on:** 19 Nov 2008, 21:33 »

Quote from: tomselleck69 on 19 Nov 2008, 20:55

Jeph has ended sentences with prepositions before AND PREPOSITIONS ARE THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT END A SENTENCE WITH.

That sounds like something Hannelore would say.

Tybalt · « **Reply #7 on:** 19 Nov 2008, 23:45 »

Quote from: gobbleykins on 19 Nov 2008, 21:33

Quote from: tomselleck69 on 19 Nov 2008, 20:55
Jeph has ended sentences with prepositions before AND PREPOSITIONS ARE THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT END A SENTENCE WITH.
That sounds like something Hannelore would say.

That sounds like something a person would say.

pwhodges · « **Reply #8 on:** 20 Nov 2008, 00:21 »

Many versions of this mother's question to her child are quoted as an example of natural usage:

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What did you bring that book to be read to out of up for?

hmhieshetter · « **Reply #9 on:** 24 Nov 2008, 12:45 »

Quote from: tomselleck69 on 19 Nov 2008, 20:55

Jeph has ended sentences with prepositions before AND PREPOSITIONS ARE THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT END A SENTENCE WITH.

LOL.
yeah. i'm a grammar nazi. but, this is a comic, so idc.
funny thing, the day after i read this strip, i was talking with a friend who fell into dora's trap. she said she liked a certain band before they got popular, and now that they are, she isn't interested because they've sold out....
QC reflecting real life....or real life reflecting QC??? lol

Ballard · « **Reply #10 on:** 24 Nov 2008, 12:48 »

Yes there's been random typos throughout the comic. It isn't a big deal.

Mad Cat · « **Reply #11 on:** 25 Nov 2008, 06:23 »

Who here knows the origin of the "English sentences can't end with a preposition" noise? It's the elitist snobs in their ivory towers trying to shoehorn the vulgar language of the Anglo-Saxons into the same mould as the sublime language of the Roman Empire, and Latin is incapable of ending on a preposition, therefore, so should English. It's bullshit. End sentences with prepositions if you wanna. Make up words like wanna and gotta and hafta if you wanna. And, start sentences with conjunctions used as interjections, if you wanna.

The only thing I ask is the judicious use of commas, semicolons, hyphens, and punctuation all around. Give a reader half a chance to suss out the structure of your thoughts.

If you want to see a web comic that has serious issues with selling and punctuation, I offer, for your consideration, The Devil's Panties. It is satanic porn. }:-)

tomselleck69 · « **Reply #12 on:** 25 Nov 2008, 13:39 »

Quote from: Mad Cat on 25 Nov 2008, 06:23

The only thing I ask is the judicious use of commas, semicolons, hyphens, and punctuation all around. Give a reader half a chance to suss out the structure of your thoughts.

I agree about descriptive grammar being preferable to prescriptive grammar, but, I' would ({feel}) more: comfortable, "seeing", this: extended; to... punctuation!!!!!!!?

Surgoshan · « **Reply #13 on:** 25 Nov 2008, 15:53 »

Quote from: Mad Cat on 25 Nov 2008, 06:23

Who here knows the origin of the "English sentences can't end with a preposition" noise? It's the elitist snobs in their ivory towers trying to shoehorn the vulgar language of the Anglo-Saxons into the same mould as the sublime language of the Roman Empire, and Latin is incapable of ending on a preposition, therefore, so should English. It's bullshit. End sentences with prepositions if you wanna. Make up words like wanna and gotta and hafta if you wanna. And, start sentences with conjunctions used as interjections, if you wanna.

It started back in the late nineteenth century when a foolish English vicar (sorry, can't recall his name) decided to write down the rules of proper English. He imported the Latin rule into English, idiocy ensued.

BrilliantEraser · « **Reply #14 on:** 25 Nov 2008, 18:38 »

Quote from: tomselleck69 on 19 Nov 2008, 20:55

Jeph has ended sentences with prepositions before AND PREPOSITIONS ARE THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD NOT END A SENTENCE WITH.

You, sir, just gave me an aneurysm. I hope you die a painful, fiery death. In a ditch. While being mauled by bears.

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #15 on:** 25 Nov 2008, 18:45 »

Criticism of terminal prepositions goes back at least to Dryden in 1672, but even cranky prescriptivist Fowler called it a "superstition".

More than you probably wanted to know about ending sentences with prepositions

JHarpur · « **Reply #16 on:** 30 Jul 2009, 19:40 »

Hey, is there anywhere to list typos so that Jeph can easily just go fix 'em?
If not, that's cool too - it means he's busy drawing newer stuff for me the needy needy masses.

If this thread right here is it: # 1460 frame five, bubble three, first word second line: "how", not "hot".
[Unless it's intentional and she's nervously stumbling over her words...]

jonarus_drakus · « **Reply #17 on:** 30 Jul 2009, 20:09 »

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

lunchmeat · « **Reply #18 on:** 30 Jul 2009, 23:21 »

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"Remember that guy off in whose trailer they were jacking?"

Y'know....that's actually completely incorrect. "Off" isn't a preposition, so the person who wrote that line for the movie really fucked it up. "Of" is a preposition - remember when people used to say "off of"? Yeah. "Off" just kinda wiggled its way into our regular grammar, but it isn't really right.

Regardless, since "jacking off" is a phrase in itself, it shouldn't be split.

Technically, it should be "Remember that guy in whose trailer they were jacking off?"

But whatever. I'm a spelling and grammar nazi and I respect people who are able to use the English language intelligently. Talking is one thing, but if you're going to write, you might as well do it right. Note that this doesn't extend to writing natural dialogue.

Sorry.

Eris · « **Reply #19 on:** 31 Jul 2009, 01:49 »

Guys, the last post in this thread before it was necroed was in November. November. Why was it brought back up again? Why are we still having this discussion? Who cares about typos, really? It's not that hard to work out what he is trying to say, and most of the time Jeph fixes them himself, so a thread about typos makes everyone look ridiculously nitpicky.

jonarus_drakus, if you don't have anything to say then don't fucking post. It's a pretty simple concept.

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