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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #1250 on: 28 Nov 2018, 12:58 »

Finally on the third volume of William Morris's outstanding Theodore Roosevelt biography. This is a trilogy of masterworks. I am absolutely gripped throughout and I am dreading when I run out of pages.
The same William Morris who wrote the fantasy novels that inspired Tolkien and Lewis?
I don't think so. I think it was Edmond Morris that wrote the Theodore Roosevelt trilogy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Morris_(writer)
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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #1251 on: 28 Nov 2018, 23:59 »

Nope. His first name is Edmund. I was sleepy when I wrote that...
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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #1252 on: 29 Nov 2018, 06:58 »

I picked up Le Morte D'Arthur. Holy shit there are a lot of neighboring kings when Arthur is crowned.  :psyduck:

Wish there was a map. I cannot find a decent one from google.
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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #1253 on: 29 Nov 2018, 12:39 »

Nope. His first name is Edmund. I was sleepy when I wrote that...
Ah. The timeline doesn't work anyway.  Wm. Morris died in 1896. But now I want to go back and reread The Well at the World's End or The Water of the Wondrous Isles again.
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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #1254 on: 30 Nov 2018, 06:43 »

Damn Arthur. As soon as you are crowned king you get thrown into a war. You win a great battle seduce a maid and get her pregnant, fight another battle, "fall in love" with Guinevere and then get your half sister (he didn't know they were related) pregnant when she came to spy on you for her husband (the guy at war with you). Dude is getting everyone one pregnant except his wife! I can't help but feel like this is the medieval equivalent of the modern action hero. Manly McAwesome is so awesome he slaughters his enemies like a boss and so virile he gets all the hotties pregnant. Meanwhile, Merlin is essentially telling him what to do and pranking Arthur on the reg.

The "great battle" was interesting insight into dark age/medieval combat (or at least Malory's interpretation of it). It kind of reminded me of the Iliad except instead of fighting over fallen soldier's armor, they just unhorse each other, grab the horse, and give it to one of their allies that got unhorsed. Arms and heads are getting severed and ambushes from the bushes. Was fun but battle scenes have come a long way since Malory.

I'm only 1 hour into a 37 hour story but I feel like so much has happened that it could have filled its own novel, provided more detail and dialog was in place.
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« Reply #1255 on: 30 Nov 2018, 09:03 »

I'm only 1 hour into a 37 hour story but I feel like so much has happened that it could have filled its own novel, provided more detail and dialog was in place.
Wait, so it's an audiobook?
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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #1256 on: 30 Nov 2018, 13:09 »

Yes. I almost exclusively do audio-books now during my commute to and from work. Its the only time I have to get any "reading" done which is tough to do with actual books on the train or while driving.
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« Reply #1257 on: 30 Nov 2018, 18:09 »

I feel ya. My job is now driving a library truck so I've been getting back into audiobooks. I'm currently a few hours deep in my copy of Battlefield Earth that I made over a decade ago - the library had it only on cassette, not CD, and I had to digitize it in real time to my computer and convert to MP3. The full thing, including the author's introduction, is only 19 seconds short of 43 hours.
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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #1258 on: 01 Dec 2018, 03:37 »

I'm only 1 hour into a 37 hour story but I feel like so much has happened that it could have filled its own novel, provided more detail and dialog was in place.

Well, Malory did try to tie all exiting stories and romances together, so there probably is one, or several out there.
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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #1259 on: 06 Dec 2018, 08:17 »

How many Ladies of the Lake are there? How are they different from the damsels of the lake?  I think either the translation is not adding up or Malory just expected the reader to understand or not care but dammit I want to know! Like who the fuck was in the water giving out Excalibur if The lady of the lake was the one on the shore explaining everything to Arthur and gave him her boat to get the sword? Then she dies a few chapters later. But how if she is suppose to be magical? Then Nimue shows up and is also a lady/damsel of the lake as well as others. Are they of different lakes? Is the one inside the lake the queen of the lake? Is there a hierarchy of some sort? Who is in charge? Is anyone in charge? How do they work?



Also I keep getting Morgan le Fay and Morgause confused which may explain why in other retellings they just combine the two sisters of Arthur into one. Half of the Le Morte D'Arthur articles I can find end up confusing them or combining them too, which makes me really distrust them since they obviously did not read the book they are reporting on.

Thus far, I really wish Arthur didn't marry Guenever, but instead got together with Nimue. No wonder Merlin liked her. She's so charming and helpful that she rescues Arthur a few times. Guenever has pretty much done nothing but sit around and eat cake.
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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #1260 on: 06 Dec 2018, 11:25 »

So after starting it a month or so ago and stopping because of stress, I finally went back to Mort by Terry Pratchett and I feel like my mind has been blown open by ideas and observations about humanity.

I feel so much like I identify with Death. He tried dancing, drinking and fishing, the things that are supposed to be fun, right? And he couldn't understand them. This feels so much like my own AS interpretation of the world. He also likes to cook, loves a curry, and likes cats. I have definitely over-identified with him.

My partners are huge Pratchett fans and have almost all of his books. I've got a stack of four more Discworld ones they recommended I tackle next, and I'm doing Soul Music next.

The phrase I said to them was that if Soul Music says as much to me about music as Mort did about life and death, my life might change just a little.

Before I carried on with Mort, I finished Colonel Roosevelt by Edmund Morris. I've discussed it before, the third volume of an extraordinary set of biographies.

Roosevelt is an individual I have a great deal of admiration for (while very, painfully aware of his many faults), and I was crying about a death that happened a century ago pretty much throughout the last few chapters.

This was a combination of things. Of an adventure with those books being over. Of an ending of a life that made many positive differences to the world, and paved the way for a later, even greater figure who I admire even more. But I have also found since my father died that I seek the lessons that you receive from a father through the great figures I admire through history, and it felt like a tiny sliver of losing him again. I don't regret this feeling, it was a special one to have. And finishing those three books, which believe it or not across their 1600 plus pages were an easy on-ramp for me to return to this pasttime, has reignited my passion for reading. The last parts of Mort were read voraciously in my lunch breaks at work at commuting to and from, and when I had some time to myself on Monday I found myself impatiently waiting for a YouTube video by someone I subscribe to to end just so I could get back to my reading.

I've missed reading being able to make feel this way.
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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #1261 on: 06 Dec 2018, 13:36 »

How many Ladies of the Lake are there? How are they different from the damsels of the lake?  I think either the translation is not adding up or Malory just expected the reader to understand or not care but dammit I want to know! Like who the fuck was in the water giving out Excalibur if The lady of the lake was the one on the shore explaining everything to Arthur and gave him her boat to get the sword? Then she dies a few chapters later. But how if she is suppose to be magical? Then Nimue shows up and is also a lady/damsel of the lake as well as others. Are they of different lakes? Is the one inside the lake the queen of the lake? Is there a hierarchy of some sort? Who is in charge? Is anyone in charge? How do they work?
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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #1262 on: 07 Dec 2018, 01:20 »

How many Ladies of the Lake are there?

Let's see...
Lady of the Lake,
Strange women lying in ponds
Moisten Bint
Aquatic Tart

Yeah.. quite a few!

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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #1263 on: 07 Dec 2018, 02:08 »

If I remember correctly, Malory distinguishes between two ladies of the Lake, with Nimue as the most important.

Things sometimes get a bit chaotic, as he tries to tie together all he's heard or read, which definitely isn't helped by the fact that same character, depending on the version of the story, can get a slightly different name, copying traditions being what they are. As such, it has been suggested that Morgause, though the character first appears in the tradition as Anna, and later Sangive, has gotten her name as a corruption of Orcades (Orkney), under the influence of Morgana.

The matière de Bretagne is really very fascinating to study as a tradition as well, to pluck apart all the different strands, and see how, when, and where the characters develop.
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Re: What are you currently reading?
« Reply #1264 on: 07 Dec 2018, 02:52 »

How many Ladies of the Lake are there? How are they different from the damsels of the lake?  I think either the translation is not adding up or Malory just expected the reader to understand or not care but dammit I want to know! Like who the fuck was in the water giving out Excalibur if The lady of the lake was the one on the shore explaining everything to Arthur and gave him her boat to get the sword? Then she dies a few chapters later. But how if she is suppose to be magical? Then Nimue shows up and is also a lady/damsel of the lake as well as others. Are they of different lakes? Is the one inside the lake the queen of the lake? Is there a hierarchy of some sort? Who is in charge? Is anyone in charge? How do they work?
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