Benji is a man who is making a lot of sense.
Are you kidding? I simply said that all other things being equal, I'd rather drink coffee while admiring babes in bikinis than drink coffee while staring at the walls. Benji replied with some essay about the social implications of women serving men while underdressed, power disparities, sex or the implied promise of possible sex, and a bunch of other shit that was nowhere in my post.
I reject the Orbert's assertion that me stating a preference for not going to the sexy coffee shop is somehow irrational. I'm making a fully rational choice.
I didn't say your preference is irrational. I said that it's pretty fucked up that women are choosing to serve coffee while underdressed, and somehow it's the guys who are embarrased to go there because they imagine all kinds of other implications and connotations attached to it. If you don't want to go there because you imagine that it places you in a position of power over the server, or somehow objectifies you the customer, or that there's implied possible sex and that bothers you, fine. But you're making it a lot more complicated than it needs to be.
A woman in a bikini on the beach is not promising you sex, and she is not implying possible sex. Why is she somehow doing that if she's at work?
A woman serving you coffee that you have paid for is not exercising power over you, and she is not objectifying you. She is conducting a business transaction. This is not affected by what she's wearing.
It is entirely possible to have a polite conversation with someone less than fully dressed. I have no idea why people would think otherwise. If you cannot do it because you're thinking about implied possible sex or power disparities or female subservience... well, I guess that would be a problem.
Stating a preference for not going there is not irrational, and I never said it was, but your justification for it sure as hell is. A bikini does not imply sex, and serving coffee is a business transaction, not some kind of symbolic power thing.
On a lighter note: Hey, I'm "the Orbert"!