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Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« on: 30 Jan 2009, 09:51 »

Because even though his advice is probably legit, the weight of the Past is heavy on my brain.

Secretly, I know he is right; but all the times he's ever dissed me, or called me out on a bad joke, or told me I was fat when really I am just curvy and don't photograph well, or maligned my new Pumas ("I've had that pair for like two fucking years and bright shoes are so in that they're totally out now, anyways" nah-na-nah blah-blah bloo), makes it pretty easy to go collectively two-minute hate on his shit.

This thread is so we can all maybe move on from the Legacy of a Big Jerk, because it seems like he is trying to play nice now.
It is a List of Grievances.

Once Animal Ghosts dissed my jeans, he said they made my thighs look like baby cattle.
I think I just replied with "lol, oh . . .", but I can't stop thinking about it and now when I try on jeans I get worried that I look straight-up bovine.
Also before he was such a fag-for-fashion, he used to talk about music a lot and was constantly dissing on my taste. Look, Chutes Too Narrow was a perfectly great album, fun and poppy, and if he couldn't see that, then whatever. I never really acknowledged those posts, because I feel like I was above that kind of pettiness. But I did go into IRC or Gabbly and openly wonder who the fuck he thought he was, anyways.

I would like to tell Animal Ghosts to go fuck his mother
Animal Ghosts, go fuck your mother
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #1 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:07 »

And who are you again?
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #2 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:11 »

thanks for posting!
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #3 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:13 »

I'm pretty sure yunior is more original here than the whole lot of us, so stop being wankers.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #4 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:15 »

Regardless of how long someone's been here, it's still not right to dedicate a whole thread to shit on someone. 
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #5 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:19 »

And who are you again?

I'm gonna guess this is a new account started by rawrXskittles. I don't actually know that, I would just guess that because she's the only person I can think of who he was so unrelentingly mean to.

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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #6 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:20 »

I'm just glad it wasn't titled "Fuck You, Animal Ghosts Thread."
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #7 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:25 »

This thread is so we can all maybe move on from the Legacy of a Big Jerk, because it seems like he is trying to play nice now.


Did you read this part? I agree that it's not a great thread, but people being snotty at perceived new people grates at me. Its mean when they are new, and makes you look like a moron if they're not.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #8 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:32 »

Cmon guys, post things you don't like about me! It'll be fun
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #9 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:38 »

what's not to like?!


honestly, i never understood the whole "hate on kieffer" thing. sure, you used to be an asshole but at least you were a funny asshole. and now, since you rejoined/got unbanned/whatever you are totally different. extremely tolerable.

sometimes even downright likable.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #10 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:38 »

Plus I'm dreamy
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #11 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:42 »

I get lost in Kieffer's eyes.

His dead, soulless eyes, like those of a shark.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #12 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:44 »

I don't think you did, but negative creep and 20jazzfuck jumped right in with "who the fuck are you, new person"
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #13 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:47 »

Manda: regardless of who he is, this is a dumb thread whose sole purpose is to grief another person. That is a decidedly shitty thing to do.

As opposed to starting like five threads whose purpose is to grief the forum at large?
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #14 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:47 »

uhhhh i didn't say anything about them being new. and i don't particularly care about their join date either, we already have a general insult thread and i think this one is unnecessary.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #15 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:54 »

I don't think you did, but negative creep and 20jazzfuck jumped right in with "who the fuck are you, new person"

It's kind of a valid question, if just because it's someone with 11 posts talking like they've known me forever.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #16 on: 30 Jan 2009, 10:56 »

Manda: regardless of who he is, this is a dumb thread whose sole purpose is to grief another person. That is a decidedly shitty thing to do.

As opposed to starting like five threads whose purpose is to grief the forum at large?

It may not be right, but there are more tactful ways of handling stuff like that than creating this thread.  Like Jens said, PMs are appropriate for that kind of thing. 
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #17 on: 30 Jan 2009, 11:01 »

Actually I found this thread kind of funny.

While I agree we should be pleasant and fluffy to newbies I also think internet people should stop getting sticks up their asses and being so sensitive. This forum gets very sensitive. It's the internet!

Am I wrong? Probably, but I don't care, I'm old and set in my ways fuck you very much!
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #18 on: 30 Jan 2009, 11:13 »

I think Clara is trying to defend Kieffer through humour but I feel like that is ultimately pointless because historically he really doesn't need or want defending, at least not in my experience of him.

I like Kieffer a lot, which is weird because I still have never met him. There's basically two facets of Kieffer, as far as I can tell. There's a somewhat shy, regular and cool sort of dude who you would love to have amongst your friends for the nights when you have a clear weekend off and want to go out and have an adventure. If I woke up one day and Kieffer had bought the cottage down the road from mine, I'd be happy as a pig in shit. Then there's the larger than life multi-faceted internet personality guy who just gets bored and provokes people into doing (hopefully) interesting things for his amusement. Sometimes I get tired of the latter facade but as I grow older, the less it bothers me. He's reliable in the same way that you can depend on James to say something completely loopy or Paul to let a thread to get to two pages and then make a post which renders everything previously posted as redundant.

Originally, when the forums started and some of the Dumbrella people moved over here to support Jeph's comic, I didn't post a whole lot on this forum. After I lost my other main forum, I made a few posts here again and I was struck by the strange magnetism which Kieffer seemed to exude when he was in his Makeout Hobo phase. A couple of friendly words from him on the forums essentially made me here. I was cool because Kieffer said I was. That was all the invitation I needed to set up camp here and looking back over the last half decade or so, I don't regret it. There was a sad period of time where Kieffer did not seem to think that we could both co-exist on this forum and it was not pleasant. On the defensive, he is capable of horrible manipulation and the most abject, ridiculous hypocrisy that I can immediately recall. This was probably especially stinging because I realised that I was doing exactly the same at the time. He was showing me a mirror of myself and hopefully I reigned in the ridiculousness just a little bit. So now, it seems, has Kieffer.

If I was to compare Kieffer to a historical person, it would be the late, great Hunter S Thompson. A man capable of absolute brilliance but also frequently responsible for dealing you the lowest blow you could ever receive. His inconsistency and occasionally maddening habits end up defining his environment to an extent. A man who is determined to show you not just the highest of highs but also in the interest of fairness, the lowest of the lows. In this sense he has enriched my virtual life both for the better and the worse. Although one could certainly make a case that throughout the different phases of this forum, different personalities have been largely responsible for inspiring and informing the zeitgeist (originally Jeph, then Daniel and to an extent me), it is Kieffer's machinations which burn brightest in my mind. When he was at his absolute best, this forum was an incredible place. When at his worst, it suffers dreadfully. Only with hindsight does this become apparent.

This is a transitional time and change is afoot. Most likely I will be moving along soon and taking my often unwelcome meddling elsewhere, in the hope that some people will choose to follow my lead but wary that not all will. If one day the new prince of gonzo chooses to set up camp on my own stomping ground, I'll be sure to extend the same welcome that he gave me when I initially arrived on these forums. On that day, I'll be happy as a pig in shit.

Happier in fact.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #19 on: 30 Jan 2009, 11:23 »

Once Animal Ghosts dissed my jeans, he said they made my thighs look like baby cattle.

lol, oh...
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« Reply #20 on: 30 Jan 2009, 11:24 »

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Jesus tommy why don't you just fuck him already.

Kieffer has a place in the forum as the guy who just doesn't really give a fuck. He's not really tied down by anything, not sense or respect or anything else. He serves a purpose. And he's welcome to be here.

In one of the other threads he jokingly referred to himself as a "board villain", which on its face seems like an accurate description, but really, he's only really a villain to people who are entirely too serious or just new to the boards. He's a part of this board's Old Guard and as such he gets leeway to be a sort of dick, because everybody who's been around for awhile knows his traditional role as provocateur and they know it's not a big deal. Any other forum on the internet is probably going to have at least one of those guys. Occasionally when he crosses the line into full-blown motherfuckery the admins will slap him on the wrist. That's how these things work.

We certainly wish him luck in his future endeavors in medicine / finance / entertainment / government.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #21 on: 30 Jan 2009, 11:27 »

Jesus tommy why don't you just fuck him already.

I wouldn't fuck HST though, so this makes no sense.

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« Reply #22 on: 30 Jan 2009, 11:30 »

He could also go into law and really surprise us.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #23 on: 30 Jan 2009, 11:33 »

He could really turn himself round and become a hotshot lawyer, toeing the line.

Like Cloke Rayburn in The Secret History.






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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #24 on: 30 Jan 2009, 11:39 »

fun fact: when i joined the forum in '05 or '06, i thought Tommy and Kieffer were the same person.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #25 on: 30 Jan 2009, 11:39 »

I remember Kieffer, I remember Kieffer well. Kieffer was the motherfuckin' shit back in the day. Oh to be back in the day, back when Kieffer was the motherfuckin' shit.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #26 on: 30 Jan 2009, 12:14 »

I remember that one time I had a thread dedicated to me because I told Kieffer I didn't give a fuck about what he says.  Oh how far we have come.

I'm still pretty indifferent about Kieffer.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #27 on: 30 Jan 2009, 12:22 »

Taking a look at the Way Back Machine, I find this photo of dan, myself, and keiffer taken during keiffer's Makeout Hobo phase:



(apparently that was also my shitty haircut phase)

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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #28 on: 30 Jan 2009, 12:25 »

Wait that's your hair? Jesus christ. I always thought that was a silly cap or something. Oh my god.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #29 on: 30 Jan 2009, 12:25 »

I'm gonna take a stab in the dark, and say you're the one in the middle.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #30 on: 30 Jan 2009, 12:42 »

I think Clara is trying to defend Kieffer through humour but I feel like that is ultimately pointless because historically he really doesn't need or want defending, at least not in my experience of him.

I really dig that this is in the same post as "Kieffer reminds me a little bit of Hunter S. Thompson."

Although, for the record, I wasn't so much defending Kieffer as I was trying to satirize a lot of the forum's response to him, so that maybe we could move on from it? HJB has it, we are an incredibly sensitive bunch. I am making light of that. Actually there was a really simple formula here: Take one of Kieffer's more base or stock insults, make it more aggravating, and then respond to it in a really whiny, tongue-in-cheek fashion that we can all recognize and laugh at. The point of this thread was silliness. It wasn't actually a wail-on-Kieffer thread. Historically he is one of my favorite people, because he's such good people. I'm pretty sure I kept him from being banned on a couple different occasions.

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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #31 on: 30 Jan 2009, 12:49 »

Wait that's your hair? Jesus christ. I always thought that was a silly cap or something. Oh my god.

Actually, can we go back to people assuming that was a silly cap?

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« Reply #32 on: 30 Jan 2009, 12:52 »

Basically guys, generally I'm right.

I mean, I think caps like that should be worn more often. Let's start a new trend here and now.
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« Reply #33 on: 30 Jan 2009, 12:54 »

Kieffer left me alone in the desert on drugs so he could fuck someone.

True story.
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« Reply #34 on: 30 Jan 2009, 13:18 »

One time, I saw Kieffer kill and eat a newborn Jewish baby and then shit in the mother's still-recovering vagina.

ITT we turn Kieffer into a reverse version of Charles Norris.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #35 on: 30 Jan 2009, 13:21 »

Behind Kieffer's beard, there is pretty much just a chin.

Also, I'd just like to say that Kieffer is the guy who taught me that country can be pretty rad. So salut for that, Kieffer!
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #36 on: 30 Jan 2009, 13:26 »

I once saw Kieffer set a guy on fire. Just because he could. Kieffer is ice cold.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #37 on: 30 Jan 2009, 13:28 »

Now this has definitely all been said/done before. It was funny when it was done before.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #38 on: 30 Jan 2009, 13:30 »

These Kieffer jokes are neither true nor amusing.

This is one of those things that most people would call "weak boarding."

This is a tip.

For you.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #39 on: 30 Jan 2009, 13:31 »

I have long believed that the best kind of jokes are the ones that nobody gets.
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« Reply #40 on: 30 Jan 2009, 13:35 »

I agree with Tyler.
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« Reply #41 on: 30 Jan 2009, 13:37 »

Not my fault people took me seriously.
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« Reply #42 on: 30 Jan 2009, 13:40 »

That's a risk you run every time you say something. EVERY TIME! Never say something unless you're totally prepared for every possible ramification. EVER!
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« Reply #43 on: 30 Jan 2009, 13:50 »

Kieffer is the dude I fucking hated to bits before realizing he is a pretty okay guy.

Clearly you still bear resentment that these jokes were funny in 2007. And aren't now.

Seriously guys, there's a thread over yonder devoted to 'Things we should stop doing'. I think jokes we've been making for nigh on 2 or 3 years should be among those.
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« Reply #44 on: 30 Jan 2009, 14:04 »

My bad then. I was making a point about the jokes. the same jokes.

the same old jokes.
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« Reply #45 on: 30 Jan 2009, 14:23 »

I really did leave tyler alone on drugs in the middle of the desert, but he's the one who ended up having a bunch of sex that night. I just had a little bit of sex.

Also, to be fair I've always considered myself more of an Andy Kaufman than a Hunter S Thompson, but that's just me.
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« Reply #46 on: 30 Jan 2009, 14:43 »

Tyler, it looks like you should be thanking the guy for ditching you. Sex makes everything okay.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #47 on: 30 Jan 2009, 14:44 »

I salute you, noble thread about Kieffer, for being our emissary to the heat death of the universe.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #48 on: 30 Jan 2009, 15:52 »

 I thought the past has proved that things never really end well when we feed Kieffer's ego.
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Re: Fuck You, Animal Ghosts
« Reply #49 on: 30 Jan 2009, 15:54 »

yeah, but learning from our mistakes would be way too logical.
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